New Couple In Town Expects Warm Welcome, Neighbors Remind Them They’re Not In A Hallmark Movie
Interview With ExpertOwning a little house in the countrysideâsounds like a dream, right? Beautiful views, peace and quiet, and a close-knit community where everyone looks out for each other.
Thatâs exactly what one couple from London had in mind when they bought a holiday home by the sea. Eager to settle in, they went out of their way to meet every neighbor and made as many friends as possible.
But life isnât quite like a Hallmark movie, and their over-the-top enthusiasm didnât land well. Now, the locals arenât sure what to do with this family they canât stand.
Read on for the full story and expert advice from world-leading etiquette consultant Jo Hayes on the dos and donâts of getting along with neighbors.
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A couple from London bought a new home and made it their mission to befriend every neighbor
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But life isnât a Hallmark movie, and their over-the-top enthusiasm didnât land well
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Expert advice
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Bored Panda spoke with Jo Hayes, a world-leading etiquette expert, consultant, lifestyle commentator, and founder of EtiquetteExpert.Org, for her perspective on the matter.
âWhile I appreciate the sincerity and initiative of this couple, it seems theyâre coming on a bit too hard, too fast, in their efforts to establish connections and community in this village,â Hayes told us. âWhen it comes to building relationships, easy does it.â
âAnything that feels overly pushy or forceful puts people off,â she said.
Hayes noted that rural villages like these are often home to residents who have lived there for decadesâor, in some cases, their entire lives. These communities typically have long-standing friendships, established customs, and unspoken norms for how things are done.
As a result, they can be cautiousâif not outright waryâof newcomers, especially those who arrive with too much enthusiasm.
In this case, the etiquette expert recommends approaching the locals at a reasonable, gradual pace.
Start small. Introduce yourself to just a few neighbors, perhaps two or three, and ask about local events or activities. âBut donât behave in a way that suggests you expect to become best friends with everyone in a week,â Hayes advised.
âAuthentic connections and a sense of community take time,â she added. âOnce youâve been part of the area for a while and have naturally established rapport with others, thatâs the time to consider hosting a dinner party or gathering with a few locals.â
Remember to maintain healthy boundaries. âDonât expect neighbors to hand over their mobile numbers immediately,â Hayes said. âIf and when youâve built enough of a connection to swap numbers, donât abuse that privilegeâtext or call only sparingly.â
âDonât do things like this woman didâmessaging her neighbor to let them know sheâs arrived safely. That kind of behavior implies a level of closeness that isnât there and feels like an overstep of boundaries.â
A friendly wave while passing on the street is perfectly neighborly. Thereâs no need to stop and chat every time you cross paths.
âUse common sense, common wisdom, and intuition to gauge the feel of neighbors and the town,â Hayes concluded. âAgain, go gently. Gale-force winds destroy things. A gentle breeze is pleasant and makes people feel safe and comfortable. Aim to be the gentle breeze.â
While some readers thought the couple came on too strong, others felt they should have been given a chance
You live in a quiet community because you want a quiet life. You are choosy about who you befriend and take your time about it. The last thing you want is for someone to push themselves on you (no matter how well meaning) and you become a tour guide and/or everyone ostracizes you along with them if they are too pushy.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm an introvert. I want a quiet life. If I wanted to live in a city and have a thousand activities, I'd move to a big city. I've actually lived in big cities in three different continents and I know for sure I don't like that lifestyle. I'm planning to move to my parents' village, where you can take the dogs for a walk in the woods for two hours and bump into nobody, or just one or two people. The last thing I want is a pushy neighbour who's knocking on my door all day and talks endlessly. Sorry, if you want entertainment go somewhere else. Don't take me wrong. If you need help or there's an emergency, do knock on my door, any day, any time. Day or night. But just for a chat? Five minutes every now and then, fine. Every day? Don't count on me.
Load More Replies...No one else owes you entertainment. The newbies need to respect that friendship and community is earned, not granted. This is adulthood and precious free time should not be wasted. Go to the pub. If you hit it off with someone, invite them to something. Accept a no. You can try again another day if you earn more trust. Never invite yourself into their lives. If I invited you to my book club and you demanded we change the time because you might attend 20% of the sessions, you are never invited back.
I guess maybe there’s a happy medium that people need to find, when it comes to being the new kids in town. Don’t be overbearing, but do be friendly. Just don’t latch on to someone and make them your tour guide who arranges their entertainment and introduces them to everyone else in town. I guess just move in, do your own thing, check with city hall or the local paper to see if they have a calendar of local events, take long walks to explore the area, introduce yourself, and just be normally pleasant and friendly. If people take a liking to you, great. If they don’t, oh well. Just be yourself, toned down if necessary, and give it some time. Small town people live at a slower pace than city people. If you come on too strong too fast, they will recoil from you, and you might never be accepted.
This reminds me of what I've heard happens often in Canada Atlantic provinces. People (often from Ontario) move there, lured by the lower cost of living and the "super friendly people", then immediately expect to be included in everything going on, like 'family'. Inevitably they're disappointed that the whole town didn't greet them with open arms. Meanwhile the town is struggling with the mass influx of people moving in, rising property costs, lack of housing, rising rent, fewer jobs and "greeting the new neighbor burnout".
"People (often from Ontario))...." You mean Ducking Upper Canadians?
Load More Replies...I was raised in just this sort of place and in that case there was a strong prejudice against newcomers, especially those who acted like they were in a Hallmark movie. Speaking only for my immediate area, it was mostly to do with the fact that living conditions were tough (extreme weather, struggling economy, lack of infrastructure, scant resources), and people who had been coping with that for decades felt they had earned their place. Then waltzes in someone who has the financial ability to bypass that whole process, and the audacity to be tickled at the novelty of it all. I can understand how that rankles the locals. Especially if the new neighbors then can’t adapt and turn to the strangers around them for free assistance. Trying to blend in and make friends around your summer home is a lovely goal, but if you want to get anywhere with the locals, you need to have respect for what they’ve sacrificed to be there and accept the fact that your life and theirs don’t have much in common.
I agree with your sentiments entirely. It's the same tone deafness we saw with celebrities during the pandemic.
Load More Replies..."We're having a "Wicker Man/Harvest Home" themed block party next weekend. Would you like to attend as guests of honor?
This woman clearly hasn't made friends before and she's trying something new, but doesn't seem the signs that it isn't working. She thinks she and OP are super close and hit it off, enough to encourage her kid to seek her out OP. She probably hasn't noved on her own before. Maybe she lives in the same neighborhood she grew up on, maybe she moved in with husband and just adopted his friends. Clearly she's trying but doesn't pick up on the awkwardness she's causing. My mom is exactly like this, and it really wasn't until she was diagnosed as autistic that I didn't resent her for it. She was so embarrassing and was always confused when I'd try and talk to her about it. The new neighbours will either tolerate her and she'll be none the wiser or it'll come to a head and they will tell her to back off and she will be completely blind sided. Luckily kids are grown so they won't have to go to town functions embarrassed.
This sounds like the follow-on to an "Escape to the Country" episode.
It sounds like OP's community doesn't actually HAVE much going on. Point that out to these part-time people and also tell them nicely that they're coming on too strong, and people in your area prefer peace and quiet. OP sounds a bit of a recluse, really.
It sounds to me like the woman OP is describing was told this is how you make friends and be a apart of the community and is following the advice to the letter. I suspect she's on the spectrum, but the real issue is that she looks down on the people of the small town. She thinks she's en5itled to special treatment because she comes from London. Fair enough introducing yourself, but it doesn't sound like she's pursuing any activities that help the community, just the fun social ones. If you want to show a commitment to your town, do the hard stuff. Volunteer for things to support the school or whatever festival the town does. Clean up after town meetings, set up the hall for craft fairs (and buy something). Eventually, people will understand that you care about the place and don't just expect free entertainment. Host a barbeque, or some party. Nothing builds good will like being fed and watered.
She might be on the spectrum, but I know a lot of neurotypical people who are so self-centred they don't get hints either.
Load More Replies...You live in a quiet community because you want a quiet life. You are choosy about who you befriend and take your time about it. The last thing you want is for someone to push themselves on you (no matter how well meaning) and you become a tour guide and/or everyone ostracizes you along with them if they are too pushy.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm an introvert. I want a quiet life. If I wanted to live in a city and have a thousand activities, I'd move to a big city. I've actually lived in big cities in three different continents and I know for sure I don't like that lifestyle. I'm planning to move to my parents' village, where you can take the dogs for a walk in the woods for two hours and bump into nobody, or just one or two people. The last thing I want is a pushy neighbour who's knocking on my door all day and talks endlessly. Sorry, if you want entertainment go somewhere else. Don't take me wrong. If you need help or there's an emergency, do knock on my door, any day, any time. Day or night. But just for a chat? Five minutes every now and then, fine. Every day? Don't count on me.
Load More Replies...No one else owes you entertainment. The newbies need to respect that friendship and community is earned, not granted. This is adulthood and precious free time should not be wasted. Go to the pub. If you hit it off with someone, invite them to something. Accept a no. You can try again another day if you earn more trust. Never invite yourself into their lives. If I invited you to my book club and you demanded we change the time because you might attend 20% of the sessions, you are never invited back.
I guess maybe there’s a happy medium that people need to find, when it comes to being the new kids in town. Don’t be overbearing, but do be friendly. Just don’t latch on to someone and make them your tour guide who arranges their entertainment and introduces them to everyone else in town. I guess just move in, do your own thing, check with city hall or the local paper to see if they have a calendar of local events, take long walks to explore the area, introduce yourself, and just be normally pleasant and friendly. If people take a liking to you, great. If they don’t, oh well. Just be yourself, toned down if necessary, and give it some time. Small town people live at a slower pace than city people. If you come on too strong too fast, they will recoil from you, and you might never be accepted.
This reminds me of what I've heard happens often in Canada Atlantic provinces. People (often from Ontario) move there, lured by the lower cost of living and the "super friendly people", then immediately expect to be included in everything going on, like 'family'. Inevitably they're disappointed that the whole town didn't greet them with open arms. Meanwhile the town is struggling with the mass influx of people moving in, rising property costs, lack of housing, rising rent, fewer jobs and "greeting the new neighbor burnout".
"People (often from Ontario))...." You mean Ducking Upper Canadians?
Load More Replies...I was raised in just this sort of place and in that case there was a strong prejudice against newcomers, especially those who acted like they were in a Hallmark movie. Speaking only for my immediate area, it was mostly to do with the fact that living conditions were tough (extreme weather, struggling economy, lack of infrastructure, scant resources), and people who had been coping with that for decades felt they had earned their place. Then waltzes in someone who has the financial ability to bypass that whole process, and the audacity to be tickled at the novelty of it all. I can understand how that rankles the locals. Especially if the new neighbors then can’t adapt and turn to the strangers around them for free assistance. Trying to blend in and make friends around your summer home is a lovely goal, but if you want to get anywhere with the locals, you need to have respect for what they’ve sacrificed to be there and accept the fact that your life and theirs don’t have much in common.
I agree with your sentiments entirely. It's the same tone deafness we saw with celebrities during the pandemic.
Load More Replies..."We're having a "Wicker Man/Harvest Home" themed block party next weekend. Would you like to attend as guests of honor?
This woman clearly hasn't made friends before and she's trying something new, but doesn't seem the signs that it isn't working. She thinks she and OP are super close and hit it off, enough to encourage her kid to seek her out OP. She probably hasn't noved on her own before. Maybe she lives in the same neighborhood she grew up on, maybe she moved in with husband and just adopted his friends. Clearly she's trying but doesn't pick up on the awkwardness she's causing. My mom is exactly like this, and it really wasn't until she was diagnosed as autistic that I didn't resent her for it. She was so embarrassing and was always confused when I'd try and talk to her about it. The new neighbours will either tolerate her and she'll be none the wiser or it'll come to a head and they will tell her to back off and she will be completely blind sided. Luckily kids are grown so they won't have to go to town functions embarrassed.
This sounds like the follow-on to an "Escape to the Country" episode.
It sounds like OP's community doesn't actually HAVE much going on. Point that out to these part-time people and also tell them nicely that they're coming on too strong, and people in your area prefer peace and quiet. OP sounds a bit of a recluse, really.
It sounds to me like the woman OP is describing was told this is how you make friends and be a apart of the community and is following the advice to the letter. I suspect she's on the spectrum, but the real issue is that she looks down on the people of the small town. She thinks she's en5itled to special treatment because she comes from London. Fair enough introducing yourself, but it doesn't sound like she's pursuing any activities that help the community, just the fun social ones. If you want to show a commitment to your town, do the hard stuff. Volunteer for things to support the school or whatever festival the town does. Clean up after town meetings, set up the hall for craft fairs (and buy something). Eventually, people will understand that you care about the place and don't just expect free entertainment. Host a barbeque, or some party. Nothing builds good will like being fed and watered.
She might be on the spectrum, but I know a lot of neurotypical people who are so self-centred they don't get hints either.
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