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“Unfair”: Teen Defies Results, Takes First-Place Podium Spot After Loss To Trans Athlete
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“Unfair”: Teen Defies Results, Takes First-Place Podium Spot After Loss To Trans Athlete

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A viral moment at a California track meet has added fuel to an already heated national debate after Reese Hogan, a high school athlete from Crean Lutheran High School, stood proudly on the first-place podium despite finishing second behind a transgender competitor.

Hogan was competing at the CIF Southern Section Finals on Saturday when she was bested in the triple jump by AB Hernandez, a biologically male athlete who identifies as female.

Highlights
  • Reese Hogan stood on the first-place podium after finishing second to transgender athlete AB Hernandez at a California track meet.
  • Social media erupted with mixed reactions, with some praising Hogan and others defending Hernandez’s right to compete.
  • The incident intensified national debate amid recent legislation efforts on the topic.

In a controversial move that for many symbolized the turmoil surrounding trangender participation in women’s sports, Hogan returned to the podium after the medal ceremony, stepping onto the top spot left vacant once Hernandez exited.

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    Hernandez won the triple jump with a distance of 41 feet and 4 inches—more than four feet ahead of Hogan.

    Hernandez also claimed victory in the long jump competition and placed seventh in the high jump, securing qualification for the CIF Southern Section Masters Meet, which will take place on May 24.

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    The result triggered a wave of backlash online, especially from women’s sports advocacy groups and conservative outlets that didn’t mince words to make their thoughts known. 

    “This guy won the girls long jump and triple jump in a CA track meet over the weekend,” wrote Jennifer Sey, founder of the advocacy group XX-XY, on social media. “He won the triple jump by 8ft. He’s really crushing it!”

    “Wow, what an accomplishment. I’m sure it had nothing to do with being a biological male,” wrote Colin Rugg, co-owner of conservative site Trending Politics.

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    Netizen opinions were more nuanced but still leaned towards being critical of Hernandez’ participation in the women’s competition.

    “Second place is the real champion!” one user wrote. “Good on her! This nonsense has to stop,” another replied.

    “The weakest men compete with girls, the weakest minds celebrate it,” one sign read. 

    “I’m sick of this. All the fight for women’s rights is now gone by the same people who fought for women’s rights in the first place.”

    The issue has divided the public, with each side defending its own interpretation of fairness and equality in women’s sports

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    Netizen opinions towards the idea of transgender athletes competing in women’s sports have soured following a string of testimonies of biologically female athletes being injured or having their achievements allegedly diminished by transgender competitors rapidly outpacing them.

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    For instance, in September 2022, a 17-year-old’s dream of becoming a college athlete was shattered in a second after she was hit in the head by a high-speed volleyball spiked by a transgender player.

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    The impact rattled her brain, causing an instant knockout that was made even worse as she hit the floor. Payton McNabb, from Murphy, North Carolina, was unconscious for 30 seconds and woke up to her future as a player in pieces.

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    Due to the delicate nature of the subject matter, McNabb’s family was afraid to speak up out of fear of being subjected to harassment, cancellations, and accusations of transphobia.

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    “At the time, we weren’t allowed to speak up. We couldn’t say, ‘No, she’s not playing against a boy, it’s dangerous.’” Pamela McNabb, her mother, said at the time.

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    McNabb’s testimony was instrumental in North Carolina passing a ban on transgender athletes competing on middle, high school, and college level women’s sports teams.

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    The ban motivated a group of more than 400 current and former Olympic athletes to sign a letter urging the National College Athletics Association (NCAA) to not issue a similar ban.

    In the letter, signatories called on people to be on the “right side of history,” believing the prohibition would be against the principle of sports being “for all.”

    Hernandez called the outrage “ridiculous,” arguing that being transgender offers no inherent advantages in sports

    “The mere fact that men compete against women is absurd,” one reader argued. “Trans people should have their own league, and regular, normal people can have their traditional men’s and women’s sports.”

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    Meanwhile, some defended Hernandez’ right to compete. “She followed all the rules,” one user argued. “If people don’t like it, the problem is with the rules, not with her.” 

    “Trans girls are girls,” another followed. “Hernandez won fair and square.”

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    For Hernandez, who has been defeated by biologically female athletes in the past, the claim of having an unfair advantage is “ridiculous” and “idiotic.”

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    “I’m still a child, you’re an adult, and for you to act like a child shows how you are as a person,” the athlete said.

    “All I thought was, ‘I don’t think you understand that this puts your idiotic claims to trash. She can’t be beat because she’s biologically male.’ Now you have no proof that I can’t be beat.”

    Hernandez’ victory comes at a time of heightened national attention on the participation of transgender athletes in girls’ and women’s sports. In March, Senate Democrats blocked a bill that would ban their inclusion at federally funded schools and institutions.

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    “Sad.” Netizens took to social media to reflect on the incident and its consequences

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    Comment by John Cramer stating at least Reese looks confident despite competition with trans athlete.

    Comment by Sheri Moore Mcclatchy stating that the situation with the high school girl defying a trans athlete needs to stop.

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    Abel Musa Miño

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    Abel Musa Miño

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    Born in Santiago, Chile, with a background in communication and international relations, I bring a global perspective to entertainment reporting at Bored Panda. I cover celebrity news, Hollywood events, true crime, and viral stories that resonate across cultures. My reporting has been featured on Google News, connecting international audiences to the latest in entertainment. For me, journalism is about bridging local stories with global conversations, arming readers with the knowledge necessary to make up their own minds. Research is at the core of my work. I believe that well-sourced, factual storytelling is essential to building trust and driving meaningful engagement.

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    Donata Leskauskaitė

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    Hey there! I'm a Visual Editor in News team. My responsibility is to ensure that you can read the story not just through text, but also through photos. I get to work with a variety of topics ranging from celebrity drama to mind-blowing Nasa cosmic news. And let me tell you, that's what makes this job an absolute blast! Outside of work, you can find me sweating it out in dance classes or unleashing my creativity by drawing and creating digital paintings of different characters that lives in my head. I also love spending time outdoors and play board games with my friends.

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    Jules
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As there seem to be more trans athletes these days why not create a category for trans competitors? It is wrong for a male born athlete to compete with females as the have a clear advantage. That means any competition is not fair

    Petra Peitsch
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Indeed, trans woman are not woman, when it comes about physically build up. They are clearly have an advantage. I don't really freaking care, how much you are downvoting me, but man-to-woman, and also woman-to-man trans people should never be let go in any kind of physical competition with genetically borned women and men. I'm all pro for them to have the rights and recognition what one can expect in a normal society. That's FAIR. What is NOT FAIR, is obvious from the post above.

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    Franco
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No males in women’s sports. No males in women’s spaces. It’s not complicated.

    Earonn -
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No idiots in this comments section!!! And yet here you are.

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    Mel in Georgia
    Community Member
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was a tremendous leap forward when trans folks began to be recognized as people who could claim a gender and live it according to how they identify. It was a blow when a minute few trans women wanted to pursue sports with an advantage few non-trans women could match. Imagine Olympic champion Caitlyn Jenner transitioning earlier and competing in women's swimming. I hate that this has become something the right obsesses over because it aims to take away rights from trans folks who have nothing to do with this specific issue. No trans women in women's sports. It's a small sacrifice to make in order to retain the forward motion in trans rights.

    Rebecka Ortiz
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No its not, you're putting real women in danger because trans women still have the bone structure of a man as well as the muscle structure of a man (considerably more than the average woman) they minimize their muscle with d***s and still have a whole entire layer more than biological women do so no you can't take away a womens rights to gain your own. Make your own category where women still keep their rights in tact also if you're so concerned over equal rights you should understand that much.

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    🇺🇦 PrincessPatton 🇺🇦
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    AB Hernandez may be a tender woman in her mind and in her soul, but the sport is about the body, and her body is still a man's body, and men's bodies have no business in women's competitions.

    ElfVibratorGlitter
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Impact of Gender-Affirming Hormone Therapy on Physical Performance https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10795902/

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    Sarah Belt
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gee, so lovely people are giving a s**t about women's sports. They didn't care before trans rights became a campaign issue, so it's incredibly hypocritical that they care now. At my HS, the men's teams got all the funding and attention: new uniforms every year, new warm up uniforms, pep band, cheerleaders, a fricking parade, etc. The women's teams had to fight for everything, even in sports where we consistently won the division. And now SUDDENLY "protecting" women's sports is the most important thing ever? Give me a break.

    Franco
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nonsense. There wasn’t a reason to be concerned about women’s sports before, because it was fair, because there were no males erasing female athletes accomplishments. Don’t be naive.

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    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sports, including athletics, are increasingly excluding bio males from competing against bio females, and the UK Supreme Court has clarified that the term "woman" is about biology. The question now is at what age and level the line is drawn - puberty would seem to be the simplest divider, and these people appear to be post-puberty, which suggests that the competition was not fair. I admire anyone who takes a stand for what they believe in.

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always love how it can't just be a conversation about the issue--which is a valid conversation-- without it devolving into a namecalling, transphobic and degrading bully-fest of a bunch of bible-thumping homophobes. It's never just...hey this is an issue, we need to discuss putting in weight limits and strength categories, the same way we do with boxing because Mike Tyson would k**l Javier Fortuna, but it doesn't mean Javier couldn't compete. He just needed to be in his own classification as a featherweight. But that's never what it is. They start calling her 'him' and it's a pile-on of ignorance. Which is why we can never have a real conversation.

    Franco
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s your perspective. Most people just don’t want males competing against girls/women.

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    Carman Davis
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was so unfair!!! If you have a p***s you should not be competing with females that actually have a v****a!

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    6 months ago

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    Trans women are women, regardless of the genitalia between their legs. Which, by the way, you seem rather disturbingly interested in.

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    Aurora
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Abel Musa Miño with the rage bait "articles" as usual.

    GOCAPS0808
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How come there's no woman in mens sports ? It's never the other way around. That should tell you everything...

    Jules
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just to be clear, as this whole stream has escalated way out of hand...when I said I thought it wasn't fair that an individual born male has an unfair physical advantage over those born female, to be clear, I am NOT slagging off trans or gay people whatsoever. I don't hate either (and before anyone jumps on that comment that also includes all manner of categories people identify as - you just be you). I JUST think THIS is unfair. As for what the solution is could be two extra categories in sport such as trans male, trans female, it may not be perfect but it's a start and it's fairer than women athletes competing in events they have no hope of a fair shot at winning, no matter how good they are.

    Sven Horlemann
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You cannot seriously mix women sports with transgender. At one point no women will win anything anymore. Make 3rd category, like others suggested.

    Robert Benson
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Here is the solution. Allow everyone to take as many hormones/steroids as they want. But they must compete with people of similar levels. Some cis-women naturally have more testosterone than some cis-men. This might mean that some cis-women would play in "men's" sports and vice-versa. Perhaps there should be 3 categories, high, medium and low testosterone. Maybe a forth ... super-high for those who REALLY juice up. Then, like in boxing for a weigh-in, you must get tested before competing.

    UKGrandad
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jesus wept! So you want to level the playing field by excluding everybody who doesn't want be pumping hormones and steroids into their bodies.

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    ElfVibratorGlitter
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm disappointed by how bigoted the BP community is. Come on, we need to be better. Also. Here are some facts, ACTUAL FACTS. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10795902/

    UKGrandad
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    EVG, that study does not say what you think it says. I've explained why in comments further up the page. Those ACTUAL FACTS state very clearly that male advantage is not lost even after three years on female hormone therapy.

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    Bryn
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jennifer Sey used to be well liked in the gymnastics community because she came out against abuse in the sport (and yes I'm using that term on purpose) but now everybody doesn't like her because of this stance. Sad.

    Piper
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand the controversial argument about denying the rights of a transgender person and I think it’s unfair to say a trans woman is not a woman. However, I do believe that there are many instances where in sport things become unfair. What about having Waite classes similar to boxing And martial arts?

    Franco
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trans women aren’t women, they are trans women. The trans qualifier is there for a reason.

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    Earonn -
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cool, so we don't have to prove anymore that she only won because she's trans - and not perhaps, because her technique or training was better? OMG, how stupid. BTW, not every trans woman is automatically stronger than any cis woman. Just like there are cis men who aren't stronger than some women. But go on your c*****e, it's not as if women didn't have any more serious problems. At least no one is talking about coaches molesting young female athletes anymore, eh?

    ElfVibratorGlitter
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you! Maybe these bigots should read actual studies on The Impact of Gender-Affirming Hormone Therapy on Physical Performance. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10795902/

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    Megalodon Meg
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All of you bigoted a******s sitting in your own filth, shoveling McDonald's into tour faces surrounded by the dusty photos of your family who don't talk to you anymore screaming about what's "fair" in sports your grotesque frames could never be capable of competing in need to eat one more bigmac to block the s**t spewing hole that is your mouth.

    UKGrandad
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow! And yet all I hear is that it's people on the side of women who spew all the filth.

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    Megalodon Meg
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe Reese should get f*****g good 🤷‍♀️

    UKGrandad
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What? Implicit in that comment is the suggestion that the reason that all records for sporting events that have equivalent male and female categories are held by men is that women just aren't trying hard enough.

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    Wij
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Chix with dix 100m

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    6 months ago

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    It's the polar opposite of the Mexico City Olympic podium from 1968. It's such a disgrace that we are moving away from human rights and dignity and sprinting back to racism and bigotry.

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's racism got to do with this? Don't waste the race card when it's not relevant.

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    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    6 months ago

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    We used to be told "High school sports isn't about winning. It's about building character." How's that working out for this young lady? She's a loser in more ways than one.

    Deirdre
    Community Member
    6 months ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    If she looks like a girl, identities as a girl, and feels comfortable being a girl, its a girl. The internet needs to stop pissing and moaning about people who are different than them. It's 2025.

    Jules
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not about people being different from them, it's what's fair in competition that's all. If you have the muscle mass and increased strength that came as a result of being born a biological male, it doesn't matter what you identify as, you'll still have a physical advantage over those who were born female. I'm all for being who you feel you should be, but have a thought when it comes to sport.

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    Jules
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As there seem to be more trans athletes these days why not create a category for trans competitors? It is wrong for a male born athlete to compete with females as the have a clear advantage. That means any competition is not fair

    Petra Peitsch
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Indeed, trans woman are not woman, when it comes about physically build up. They are clearly have an advantage. I don't really freaking care, how much you are downvoting me, but man-to-woman, and also woman-to-man trans people should never be let go in any kind of physical competition with genetically borned women and men. I'm all pro for them to have the rights and recognition what one can expect in a normal society. That's FAIR. What is NOT FAIR, is obvious from the post above.

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    Franco
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No males in women’s sports. No males in women’s spaces. It’s not complicated.

    Earonn -
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No idiots in this comments section!!! And yet here you are.

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    Mel in Georgia
    Community Member
    Premium
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was a tremendous leap forward when trans folks began to be recognized as people who could claim a gender and live it according to how they identify. It was a blow when a minute few trans women wanted to pursue sports with an advantage few non-trans women could match. Imagine Olympic champion Caitlyn Jenner transitioning earlier and competing in women's swimming. I hate that this has become something the right obsesses over because it aims to take away rights from trans folks who have nothing to do with this specific issue. No trans women in women's sports. It's a small sacrifice to make in order to retain the forward motion in trans rights.

    Rebecka Ortiz
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No its not, you're putting real women in danger because trans women still have the bone structure of a man as well as the muscle structure of a man (considerably more than the average woman) they minimize their muscle with d***s and still have a whole entire layer more than biological women do so no you can't take away a womens rights to gain your own. Make your own category where women still keep their rights in tact also if you're so concerned over equal rights you should understand that much.

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    🇺🇦 PrincessPatton 🇺🇦
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    AB Hernandez may be a tender woman in her mind and in her soul, but the sport is about the body, and her body is still a man's body, and men's bodies have no business in women's competitions.

    ElfVibratorGlitter
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Impact of Gender-Affirming Hormone Therapy on Physical Performance https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10795902/

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    Sarah Belt
    Community Member
    6 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gee, so lovely people are giving a s**t about women's sports. They didn't care before trans rights became a campaign issue, so it's incredibly hypocritical that they care now. At my HS, the men's teams got all the funding and attention: new uniforms every year, new warm up uniforms, pep band, cheerleaders, a fricking parade, etc. The women's teams had to fight for everything, even in sports where we consistently won the division. And now SUDDENLY "protecting" women's sports is the most important thing ever? Give me a break.

    Franco
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nonsense. There wasn’t a reason to be concerned about women’s sports before, because it was fair, because there were no males erasing female athletes accomplishments. Don’t be naive.

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    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sports, including athletics, are increasingly excluding bio males from competing against bio females, and the UK Supreme Court has clarified that the term "woman" is about biology. The question now is at what age and level the line is drawn - puberty would seem to be the simplest divider, and these people appear to be post-puberty, which suggests that the competition was not fair. I admire anyone who takes a stand for what they believe in.

    Kate Jones
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always love how it can't just be a conversation about the issue--which is a valid conversation-- without it devolving into a namecalling, transphobic and degrading bully-fest of a bunch of bible-thumping homophobes. It's never just...hey this is an issue, we need to discuss putting in weight limits and strength categories, the same way we do with boxing because Mike Tyson would k**l Javier Fortuna, but it doesn't mean Javier couldn't compete. He just needed to be in his own classification as a featherweight. But that's never what it is. They start calling her 'him' and it's a pile-on of ignorance. Which is why we can never have a real conversation.

    Franco
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s your perspective. Most people just don’t want males competing against girls/women.

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    Carman Davis
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was so unfair!!! If you have a p***s you should not be competing with females that actually have a v****a!

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    6 months ago

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    Trans women are women, regardless of the genitalia between their legs. Which, by the way, you seem rather disturbingly interested in.

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    Aurora
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Abel Musa Miño with the rage bait "articles" as usual.

    GOCAPS0808
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How come there's no woman in mens sports ? It's never the other way around. That should tell you everything...

    Jules
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    6 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just to be clear, as this whole stream has escalated way out of hand...when I said I thought it wasn't fair that an individual born male has an unfair physical advantage over those born female, to be clear, I am NOT slagging off trans or gay people whatsoever. I don't hate either (and before anyone jumps on that comment that also includes all manner of categories people identify as - you just be you). I JUST think THIS is unfair. As for what the solution is could be two extra categories in sport such as trans male, trans female, it may not be perfect but it's a start and it's fairer than women athletes competing in events they have no hope of a fair shot at winning, no matter how good they are.

    Sven Horlemann
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You cannot seriously mix women sports with transgender. At one point no women will win anything anymore. Make 3rd category, like others suggested.

    Robert Benson
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Here is the solution. Allow everyone to take as many hormones/steroids as they want. But they must compete with people of similar levels. Some cis-women naturally have more testosterone than some cis-men. This might mean that some cis-women would play in "men's" sports and vice-versa. Perhaps there should be 3 categories, high, medium and low testosterone. Maybe a forth ... super-high for those who REALLY juice up. Then, like in boxing for a weigh-in, you must get tested before competing.

    UKGrandad
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jesus wept! So you want to level the playing field by excluding everybody who doesn't want be pumping hormones and steroids into their bodies.

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    ElfVibratorGlitter
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm disappointed by how bigoted the BP community is. Come on, we need to be better. Also. Here are some facts, ACTUAL FACTS. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10795902/

    UKGrandad
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    EVG, that study does not say what you think it says. I've explained why in comments further up the page. Those ACTUAL FACTS state very clearly that male advantage is not lost even after three years on female hormone therapy.

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    Bryn
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jennifer Sey used to be well liked in the gymnastics community because she came out against abuse in the sport (and yes I'm using that term on purpose) but now everybody doesn't like her because of this stance. Sad.

    Piper
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand the controversial argument about denying the rights of a transgender person and I think it’s unfair to say a trans woman is not a woman. However, I do believe that there are many instances where in sport things become unfair. What about having Waite classes similar to boxing And martial arts?

    Franco
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trans women aren’t women, they are trans women. The trans qualifier is there for a reason.

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    Earonn -
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cool, so we don't have to prove anymore that she only won because she's trans - and not perhaps, because her technique or training was better? OMG, how stupid. BTW, not every trans woman is automatically stronger than any cis woman. Just like there are cis men who aren't stronger than some women. But go on your c*****e, it's not as if women didn't have any more serious problems. At least no one is talking about coaches molesting young female athletes anymore, eh?

    ElfVibratorGlitter
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you! Maybe these bigots should read actual studies on The Impact of Gender-Affirming Hormone Therapy on Physical Performance. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10795902/

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    Megalodon Meg
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All of you bigoted a******s sitting in your own filth, shoveling McDonald's into tour faces surrounded by the dusty photos of your family who don't talk to you anymore screaming about what's "fair" in sports your grotesque frames could never be capable of competing in need to eat one more bigmac to block the s**t spewing hole that is your mouth.

    UKGrandad
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow! And yet all I hear is that it's people on the side of women who spew all the filth.

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    Megalodon Meg
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe Reese should get f*****g good 🤷‍♀️

    UKGrandad
    Community Member
    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What? Implicit in that comment is the suggestion that the reason that all records for sporting events that have equivalent male and female categories are held by men is that women just aren't trying hard enough.

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    Wij
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Chix with dix 100m

    FreeTheUnicorn
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    6 months ago

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    It's the polar opposite of the Mexico City Olympic podium from 1968. It's such a disgrace that we are moving away from human rights and dignity and sprinting back to racism and bigotry.

    Apatheist Account2
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's racism got to do with this? Don't waste the race card when it's not relevant.

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    Michael Largey
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    6 months ago

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    We used to be told "High school sports isn't about winning. It's about building character." How's that working out for this young lady? She's a loser in more ways than one.

    Deirdre
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    6 months ago

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    If she looks like a girl, identities as a girl, and feels comfortable being a girl, its a girl. The internet needs to stop pissing and moaning about people who are different than them. It's 2025.

    Jules
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    6 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not about people being different from them, it's what's fair in competition that's all. If you have the muscle mass and increased strength that came as a result of being born a biological male, it doesn't matter what you identify as, you'll still have a physical advantage over those who were born female. I'm all for being who you feel you should be, but have a thought when it comes to sport.

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