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“What’s One Hill That Others May Not Agree With But That You Will Die On?” (37 Answers)
Interview
Everyone has virtues they swear by, and these often shape opinions. Sometimes we wholeheartedly agree, and other times, we’ll argue a “wrong” one into oblivion.
Today, we’re taking a look at what our community had to say about the hills they’re willing to die on—even if others don’t agree. Their answers range from disliking cheese to standing up for women’s rights.
To better understand the psychology behind our firmly held beliefs and whether they are set in stone, Bored Panda reached out to Prof. Dr. Hab. Wojciech Kulesza, a social psychologist, who kindly shared his insights on the topic below.
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#1
Every woman should be able to get an abortion, if she thinks, for whatever reason, she needs to have it.
Final score:
148points
Michael Largey 6 months ago
Every woman should be able to avoid an unwanted pregnancy in the first place. So-called "pro-lifers" shouldn't work to make abortions illegal; we should all work to make them unnecessary.
Andie Day 6 months ago
THIS!! If you don't like the idea of abortions, you better d**n well be lobbying for free birth control starting at age 12!!!!
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Little Bit 6 months ago
Exactly. Women from all walks of life have abortions for all kinds of different reasons. It's not just because they stupid or promiscuous or irresponsible. Some women fall pregnant through r**e or abuse, others are not able to cope with a child or are living in horrendous circumstances. No method of contraception is 100% safe all the time. It is never a decision that is made lightly and nobody has any right to judge unless they have been in that situation themselves.
Kat Alison 6 months ago
There are not enough upvotes in the universe for me to give to this. 🏆
Jerry Jacques 6 months ago
Funny how the U.S.A. does not understand freedom is and yet thinks it can tell others about it.
First of all, we asked Wojciech to explain why people tend to stick to their beliefs, even if it means being judged or left out by others.
He wrote: “We call it the psychology of attitudes. Once the attitude is created, it is very hard to
change it, even when faced with the contrary and strong arguments that ‘should’ change our perspective.
For example, we may perceive our marriage as a good and strong one, but the observer could deliver strong arguments to change our perception (the partner is toxic, is cheating, is abusive).
Strangely, it is better for our self-perception to disregard that new and valid information, rather than to admit that our attitude and decisions based on that were wrong. In some special circumstances, we call it cognitive dissonance: whilst to change one’s opinion, we change the arguments to support the wrong and previously formed attitude.”
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#2
Pets are family members and should be treated as such. Living on a chain outside or permanently crated is just not acceptable. Feed should include quality food (not tinned muck). If you can't afford vet bills (when they occur) then don't have pets - they need medical care just as much as humans.
Final score:
130points
Crystalwitch60 7 months ago
Totally behind this ! And my dogs sleep on my bed and the furniture! Cos you wouldn’t make your family sleep on the bloody floor now would you !! ( I hope ! )
LakotaWolf (she/her) 6 months ago
My GSD mix has to sleep on his own special bed/mat because he has a lot of physical issues/disabilities due to having had distemper as a puppy. He can't curl up well and when he tries to, he sometimes gets sick (as he also has myoclonus that affects all his "long muscles", including those in his guts/digestive system.) All of the rest of my horde (my Belgian Malinois and my 5 cats) have the option to sleep with me if they wish, or anywhere else they want to XD
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BrownEyedPanda 6 months ago
As I've always said: if you can't afford the vet, you can't afford the pet. Period.
Jeff Peiffer 6 months ago
I'll start with, I'm not a dog nor a cat person, so consider the rest in that context. My personal philosophy is if the vet costs more than a replacement, I'm probably not doing the vet bill. And that has served me well. I had a hedgehog who had no issues for years. Hedgehogs will never love you. They won't bond with you. They're still great pets. After 3 years (avg life is 3-5), she developed a neurological disorder called "wobbly hedgehog syndrome" similar to MS in humans. We did supportive care at home until she could no longer do things we thought she enjoyed and I took her to the vet. Vet said they could address her symptoms for $X... I opted to put her down. $x would have VERY quickly exceed the $250 a new one would cost, and she was gonna die anyway, just maybe a few months later. We currently have 5 sugar gliders. I love them. They are 100% issue free. But if one suddenly had a $500-1k bill, I'd be sad as I'd also say goodbye to it.
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LakotaWolf (she/her) 6 months ago
There's tons of pet insurance companies. All of my pets have insurance policies.
Load More Replies... Libstak 6 months ago (edited)
Dogs are pack animals, you are their pack. Pack sticks together and sleeps in a pile up. Cats arguably show pride mentality too, again their stick together and work together.
Lady Eowyn 6 months ago
Where did you pack them? Yes, pack animals not packed.
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Gingersnap In Iowa 6 months ago
I grew up on a farm and my Dad raised hogs (he raises cattle now) and we had a working dog. I was lucky bc I grew up loving and respecting animals.
Dog Mom to Zoe 6 months ago
I was once told to 'put my dogs in the garage or tie them up'. That person was told not to come. The the OP, say it a little louder!! Yes, they do sleep with me.
Marnie 6 months ago
In general, I agree. However, most people who put it this way also think they are CHILDREN, and they are not. If you do need to rehome them, they will survive, just like if your adult sister moved out and got a new roommate. It's disturbing when people think of and treat their adult pets like their children. That thought process changes how you interact with them and I don't believe it makes them happier or more well-behaved.
veirdbuttrue 6 months ago
No, I don't think my cat is my child. I think I have a responsibility to enrich my cat's life as best I can and not move her our of my house simply because she is an inconvenience to me.
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#3
You are not allowed to dictate what other people (or their children) read. If you don't want to read about X, Y, Z...I respect that choice. There are plenty of other topics out there. You don't want your kids to read X, Y, Z? You're the parental figure. You're in charge. But you don't get to come into libraries (or schools, or stores, etc) to demand a blanket ban of everything you personally find objectionable.
Final score:
117points
Earonn - 7 months ago
And you better do a good introspection WHY you don't want to read a book, or have you rkid read it. And that should go deeper than "oh, I don't want them to know about X".
Robin Roper 6 months ago
They don't want them to learn to think on their own. What some call "indoctrination" is really professors trying to expose their students to fact which could be different from what the were taught in their homes and to use critical thinking; like critical race theory. The critical part of the name is to think critically about race and it's history in the US.
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(Awkward) Dumpster Fire 7 months ago
Yeah really, As a teen, it makes me mad because books that have good morals and life lessons in them are getting banned because of overprotective parents that get to decide for everybody apparentlly.
StrangeOne 5 months ago
Totally get you on that. Deep diving into literature comprehension is so important. Not everything is face value and not everything your kid reads, watches and listens to will "influence" them. Kids can make up their minds what they want to believe, too, but it's important for them to have the ability to do thought exercises about what they are mentally ingesting.
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Verfin22 6 months ago
Reading expands the imagination, and not everything in the book is taken at its literal meaning. I enjoy all kinds of genres, and have been since I was a teen. Never came across something that was to taboo to read.
Emilu 6 months ago (edited)
My friend was banned from reading Harry Potter because it promoted witchcraft and she was Christian. She loved that series until she had to stop reading it. I found it ridiculous, personally. Like, what's she going to do; turn into a wizard, Harry? Same with the vampire books I lent her (probably good because they ended up getting very smutty, but hey).
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Scott Rackley 6 months ago
That segment of the population can't seem to parent their children. They also have a really hard time minding their own business.
veirdbuttrue 6 months ago
Yeah. That doesn't happen in NZ. We are just not that weird and Christian centric.
Dawn Marie 6 months ago
There should be a law!! Wait there is!! The first amendment!! Why is this not enforced? If you want to dictate my life and what I and my children read, then let me come into your life and dictate what you and your children read!!
BeKind&Rewind 6 months ago
Unfortunately, not all children have parents who care about them and don't educate them and help them understand what they are reading.
StrangeOne 5 months ago
You can ban certain books all you want, but your kids will always have access to libraries and their friend's houses and they may be tempted to look at those books you don't want them to read.
We were wondering how people balance the need to fit in with others and the need to stay true to their own opinions, to which Wojciech responded: “Sometimes it is hard to speak of ‘true opinions.’ As described above, they are so easily and often irrationally formed. As much (also ours) research shows, we often cheat ourselves to perceive our decisions and opinions as better in comparison with others. These effects are coined ‘better than average’ and ‘unrealistic optimism.’
For example, even though one could die from not vaccinating oneself against COVID-19, while others are doing so by taking the shots, s/he can find many (often unrealistic) reasons to support a very dangerous decision (I am young and strong) while disregarding very well grounded other reasons (even young people die). We do so because we like to perceive ourselves as reasonable and intelligent.
Strangely, changing opinion is often perceived as weak and being under an influence. That is why we tend to stand strong supporting our previous claims.”
#4
Writing properly and speaking properly is important. Sure, everyone drops an occasional "u" or "wyd" in a text, but this is unacceptable in any other sort of written communication. If you're uncertain of how to spell a word, don't guess; spellcheck exists. Dictionaries exist. When speaking, use proper grammar. People will judge you by how you write and how you speak. If you sound ignorant, you will be perceived as ignorant.
Final score:
94points
Roni Stone 7 months ago
I grew up in Appalachia. My mother, apparently an alien from another land or something equally as otherworldly omniscient, spoke little of the local dialect. She never graduated from high school and, as far as I know) never lived outside of the hollers at the time, but made sure we used proper English, including all the g's at the end of words. She made sure that we read aloud to her at least weekly so she could correct any failings. "You won't grow up to sound like heathens." She was correct but she also inspired in me a deep, deep appreciation for the mountain dialects (there are several just in Eastern Kentucky where I was born.) Kind of an ironic side effect, I think.
Auntriarch 6 months ago
Not ironic at all Roni, that's exactly what happens the more you find out about language. There's a difference between knowing a language and knowing about language.
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Sarah Suelzle 7 months ago
Thank you. Thank you!! I usually just get a blank stare when I say this. Also, especially for people 30-ish and younger, speak up, speak clearly and enunciate!
Cuppa tea? 6 months ago
Spellcheck is literally on every device and service. Use it. And read before you post, send anything.
Sue 6 months ago
Spell check doesn't work if it's actually a word, but it's the wrong word.
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Michael Largey 6 months ago (edited)
Is that the speaker's or the listener's fault? I can sound knowledgeable and be perceived as knowlegable, but I'm really an idiot.
Load More Replies... Dawn Marie 6 months ago
Anyone who says "I seen" automatically drops five points on the intelligence scale.
Kat Alison 6 months ago
This professional editor agrees. AND—everybody needs to be taught the basics of spelling, punctuation, and grammar in their own home language. Spellcheck gets it wrong more often than you think.
#5
I feel like something that I will always have a passion for is just preservation of nature. People seeming scared of insects or bugs or just outright harming certain places is always unthinkable to me, and just something that I will never think about doing.
Another area would probably just be preservation of old literature and works, as well as not censoring work; someone's work should be able to read by everyone for all eternity.
Final score:
87points
Ben Aziza 6 months ago
Especially art even if some of it explosive and ephemeral.
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Lost Panda 7 months ago
I'm on board with this. Only bugs I will k**l are those that are affecting me (mosquito, roach, etc.), all the others I will do what I can to get them back outside. Literature should be left alone. If it is offensive, then all the better. Why should we leave it be? Because erasing the offensive items 1) removes knowledge of such things having exisited 2) offensive topics can spur productive conversations
Michael Largey 6 months ago
You can't understand what was wrong in the past unless you can read the past's wrongs.
Alexandra 6 months ago
Whenever I see a snail on the bike path, I will pick it up and put him somewhere safe. Silly I know, but that's a life too you know and this snail does less harm to the environment than I do, so this is me atoning really.
Blackmoon The Dragon (Submission author) 6 months ago
I would love to even see a snail most of the time... you're lucky! :D snails are just cute little things
Load More Replies... Crystalwitch60 7 months ago
I’m on board with the insects I’m allergic to been wasp stings but I’m damned if I’m gonna hurt em cos if it hell I can’t even k**l a spider love em totally , flies ok they are fair game , but I prefer to let them out than harm them
Laura Spring 6 months ago
I live in a heavily wooded area, state forests, farms, etc. Our lawn is more of a meadow - grass, clover, moss, wild flowers. The bees love it, so does the wildlife around us.
While starting to grasp why we hold on to our beliefs even if they might be hurting us, we were curious if certain personality traits make someone more likely to defend their views no matter what.
Wojciech commented: “To be honest: not really. As a social psychologist, I locate this tendency to ‘defend their views no matter what’ rather in a specific situation than in a specific person.
For example, reactance/the boomerang effect shows that the more people put pressure on the other person, the more likely s/he will push back such an argument. It is a situation of being a target of the advertisement: we know that the facts provided are to create/change our perception/decision, and simply because someone wants us to change it, we put more pressure on ‘defending our view no matter what.’”
#6
Brexit was a terrible idea.
Final score:
78points
patricia patricia 5 months ago
Well, "all others" shouldn't have voted for the option that served the rich.
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WubiDubi 6 months ago
The hardcore who still say it was and is great are obviously rich boomers.
Andie Day 6 months ago
Rich racist xenophobe boomers and poor racist idiots that buy into their c**p.
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Boris Long-Johnson 6 months ago
And yet it looks like big nige is going to be our next prime minister how lovely! I hate this country sometimes. I really wish we’d been able to get out of the union in 2014.
#7
My hill is the one where I don't find it necessary to be kindly towards you if your beliefs are those that seek to erase my voice, endanger my life, limit my choices to have bodily autonomy, ensure that I can't get married to the person I love, enlist in the service of my country because of my gender identity/sexuality/color of my skin/nation of my birth, or provide for criminal/civil charges if I think outside your DEI lines. These are huge moral gulfs, not just political views. They are moral lines drawn in the sand. These things are important enough to me that I would willingly die to see them fulfilled, and I simply will not lay awake at night angstifying because someone is sad/mad that I unfriended them. I just can't bring myself to physically or metaphorically break bread with someone whose beliefs wish my life out of existence or relegated to some dusty historical closet with the door nailed shut.
Final score:
73points
Aroace tiger (she/they/he) 7 months ago
I agree whole heartedly, i will never befriend someone with views that say i am wrong for something i didn't choose to be
Michael Largey 6 months ago
I'm probably not going to get along with someone who says I'm wrong for something I chose to be, either.
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liam newton-harding 6 months ago
It’s a linguistic trick the Right tries all the time, “You HAVE to tolerate my intolerance…if you don’t YOU are the bigot!”
Kat Alison 6 months ago
I agree 100%. No mercy for conservatives who want to control everybody else’s life.
geezeronthehill 6 months ago
I think I know a political party that you shouldn't vote for, then.
nzn5xqgvz8 6 months ago
I agree, definitely not necessary to be kind, but at same time, we should all try to be kinder! Kindness is good!
Paulina 6 months ago
When I was younger I naively thought it's possible to keep friends with wildly different beliefs. But after a while they start getting in the way more and more... Until they say or do something that's just so disgusting and unacceptable that you're just like "Fück it, fück you & fück everyone like you" 🤷♀️
Andie Day 6 months ago
God, iseefractals, just say you support Project 2025 and stop trying to massage what you're saying to sound good. We get it. You're being persecuted by all this woke stuff. You're the only one who is thinking about the childrennnn. You're afraid of those nasty trans men attacking women in the bathroom. You think women are evil and ruining Amerika for wanting an abortion. If you don't like abortions, then support free birth control. Oh, wait, you think that encourages kids and rewards slutty women having more s*x. Go wave a flag somewhere.
When it comes to love and relationships, Wojciech shared how strong personal beliefs affect how people connect or disagree.
“Very strongly. For many decades, it was shown that on the one hand, similar opinions are those who connect us. On the other hand, it is often stressed that contraries/oppositions are magnetic to each other.
This contrast was solved once it was discovered, that similarities on crucial aspects/opinions/goals are crucial, whilst dissimilarities are interesting and binding in areas which are not crucial/important.
This simple rule reveals the complexity and explains why it is so hard to find someone special!
1. A person has to agree that a specific issue/opinion is crucial
(e.g., faith is an important issue in a relationship).
2. Both people have to share the same polarity of magnet/attraction (I am agnostic); create an attractor by the similarity and polarization. Any other combination in the area of important similarities of attitudes creates less strong, more fragile relationships.”
#8
I work in retail, grocery to be specific. The customer is not always right. It's frustrating to explain that we do run out of things. I don't control the freight that's brought in, nor the price. I will blatantly tell you we don't have it because it's 10 minutes to closing and it's on a pallet with 200 other cases. Don't be that customer. We're not a wholesale warehouse. We stock overnight for a reason. You were just unlucky that what you wanted is gone after a whole day. Some people respect that and some don't.
Final score:
72points
Michael Largey 6 months ago
Madam or sir, if we had it in the back we would go get it for you. The business plan here is making money by selling you stuff, not hiding it from you.
Blackmoon The Dragon 6 months ago
YES. I work in food service and THIS IS IT. There's another website (can I post website links?) that basically just shows terrible customers. Those are the reasons why this is true. Also the full quote is "customers are always right in MATTERS OF TASTE". Like, if they like something, then that means that item is good. FOR THEM. To be honest, though, I work at a food service place that is especially known for customer service, and if they're not making a big stink about it, why not give it to them? Its only really the entitled customers that ruin it. Like, if they're fine with your answer, then they're fine. It's only the ones that won't accept a simple answer that's the crazies.
Roni Stone 6 months ago
Just an aside for those who may need to remind someone of it some day - the original quote is "The customer is always right regarding matters of taste." The customer is always right when they tell you they like this color or that style, but they do not get to tell you mush magik something up from the otherworld when it's out of stock.
StrangeOne 5 months ago (edited)
That one type of customer "Well, can you please go in the back and check? You must have it." "Person, I can go in the back for you, but I will stand at the doorway and observe the vast crates and boxes for a moment, then turn around and tell you the same thing I said the first time. Or I can get you the manager who will tell you the same. Choice is yours, but the results are going to be the same." I work in a thrift shop where we get thousands of pounds of stuff coming in daily. People ask us if we have a very specific item (like, a certain shade of denim shorts with pockets and specific length) in the back because they can't find anything like it on the sales floor. Then expect us to check. There's been customers peering into the production room and ask for something still needs to be processed.
#9
That in 2025 those of us in wheelchairs, and other disabilities, still have a huge disadvantage in life:
Ex: finding jobs, housing that fit a wheelchair, vehicles to drive, etc.
Final score:
70points
Julie S 7 months ago
I was in a clothing shop with my mum recently. She was looking at the clothes and I was standing by the door waiting for her. The shop had a lovely new ramp and I watched wheelchair uses come in the shop and was quite delighted to see the ramp, but when she got further into the shop she couldn't move around because the shop was so cramped and full of stuff. It was madness.
Gingersnap In Iowa 6 months ago
My Mom had the same problem when we'd go shopping.
Load More Replies... Aroace tiger (she/they/he) 7 months ago
Yeah I've not got personal experience but i see a lot of disabled creator's on YouTube and they've taught me a lot about how difficult it can be to do stuff because of how inaccessible the world is
BrownEyedPanda 6 months ago
Having to use a walker has made traveling easier, yet more difficult. There are stores that even though they have electric carts, will not allow me to store my walker behind a counter for safekeeping. So I end up using my walker to help me shop. Anyone who takes me places has to have room in their trunk for it.
Sam Trudeau 6 months ago
Even non-physical "disabilities" like autism have negative effects, like harassment from MAGA supporters online
As for someone who is afraid to share what they really believe because they worry others might laugh or reject them, Wojciech advised: “Stay strong. Once you are right (extremely important), keep your opinion hidden but active as a target of your actions. Attitudes are important, not the public side of it.”
#10
Being straight isn't considered "inappropriate," so why is it often considered "inappropriate" to be gay? It's not all about s*x, in the end it's part of someone's identity. I think people need to realize this and it should just be normalized in general.
Final score:
63points
Luke Branwen 6 months ago
It's the dehumanization. I'd say that a lot of straight people presume that being queer is inherently sexual. They don't have enough compassion to realize queer people can also fall in love, date, have innocent kisses or do non-sexual activities just like straight people do.
Roni Stone 6 months ago
We buy bread at the store and make sandwiches for lunch just like straight people. We live as mundanely as everyone else. All some straight see when they hear gay or queer (which I prefer) is constant s*x. That may happen, but we'd have to dig up Hefner and ask him since he was pretty much the epitome of constant s*x. And Hef was def not queer.
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Roxy222uk 6 months ago (edited)
I do find it weird when parents freak out about having to explain homosexuality to small children. Err, they've probably seen you and your other half kissing, did you then feel you had to explain penetrative s.e.x, c.u.nn.i.l.i.n.g.us, and felatio? Or did you just think your kids would just see two people that were in love?
Child of the Stars 6 months ago
It is a weird thing to freak out about. When my oldest asked why her preschool classmate had had 2 mommies, it really wasn't a big deal to explain that all families are different. Some have a mommy and a daddy, some have 2 mommies or 2 daddies, some have grandparents instead of parents, others have giant families with parents and grandparents and aunts and uncles and cousins.
Load More Replies... Billo66 6 months ago (edited)
My best friend is gay, known him 25 years, awesome dude. Anyway one day I asked him What's up dude we've known each other forever you never asked me out or even flirt. Just tell me, am I ugly? He said no dumbazz you're not gay. I love that dude for real nothing remotely sexual about it. We've just been there for each other at difficult times.
veirdbuttrue 6 months ago
Attraction is important no matter what your sexual identity
Load More Replies... Tonyah Mcanelly 6 months ago
Its crazy because being gay is so taboo in so many peoples minds . If its not your thing then leave it alone . and move on
#11
If you are not going to start paying me overtime until I stay over 40 minutes, do not be surprised or hurt when I leave at 17:30 on the dot. If I have work that needs to be done, I will stay, but don't expect me to leave until I hit that 40 minute mark, even if it means I am twiddling my thumbs on the clock.
Final score:
57points
AnnaB 7 months ago (edited)
Isn't ANYTHING over your normal working hours considered overtime? What's with the 40 minute rule?
Lost Panda (Submission author) 7 months ago
Well, there are two things to this: 1) My company (as many companies in Japan) counts time in 30-minute increments, so if you work 29 minutes it won’t be counted. Then my company also has a rule that if you are working overtime you have to take a 10-minute break that doesn’t count toward the 30 minutes. So, in other words, 30 minutes of overtime actually equals 40. 2) Part of the reason my company and others in Japan are like this is because the Japanese still hold onto the idea of “サービス残業” which means “service overtime” or free overtime.
Load More Replies... Michael Largey 6 months ago
If I work for 40 minutes unpaid, I will find 80 paid minutes where I do nothing.
BrownEyedPanda 6 months ago
If you're only hired for 30 hours per week, why do the work of a 60-hours-per-week employee?
Trillian 6 months ago
If you don't pay me for overtime unless it's more than 40 minutes don't complain if I am less than 40 minutes late
Lost Panda (Submission author) 6 months ago
Except being 1 minute late at this company costs me an hour of PTO XD
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Fabulous chocolate cookie 5 months ago
A lot of stores use a OT-policy where they round down to every 15 minutes OT. So if you work 12 minutes OT, it gets rounded down to 0. But 29 minutes also gets rounded down to 15. In a month you can easilly lose hours in free OT.
William Teach 6 months ago
Um, the law, federal at a minimum, requires that they be paid overtime from the time overtime starts.
Boo 6 months ago
Not all countries employment laws are the same, though. Not everyone on this site lives in the States.
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#12
"My truth" (or his/her/their truth) isn't necessarily a truth. It is likely an opinion. A fact is a truth. Putting a pronoun in front of truth doesn't make it a fact.
Final score:
57points
Michael Largey 6 months ago
When someone says "I don't sugarcoat the truth", what he says is rarely even remotely true.
Roxy222uk 6 months ago
It is more than likely just needlessly rude and unnecessary
Load More Replies... Anony Mouse 6 months ago
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. They are not entitled to their own facts.
Child of the Stars 6 months ago (edited)
I would argue that a fact is indisputable or at least has enough evidence to be considered a fact (2+2=4, the Earth is not flat). But a truth is an interpretation of one's reality or experiences.
#13
The future will get better in technology but worse in knowledge.
Final score:
45points
Michael Largey 6 months ago
We're losing the grip on knowledge, with vax denyers, flat earthers, and MAGA.
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Toge Inumaki (Submission author) 6 months ago
It's going to sail a lot longer I bet
Load More Replies... Kat Alison 6 months ago
I’m not sure the technology is getting better. We have a lot of fancy gadgets that do things we don’t really need. And doing simple tasks of everyday life sometimes gets more complicated when we have to go online or an app, make an account, make a new password, do two-factor authentication, etc., and then call a phone number anyway when it doesn’t work. Oh, and then we have to navigate a phone system. We almost have to hold someone or something for ransom to get to talk to a human being who can address our concern. Meanwhile, there ARE good new medical technologies, but we can’t have them because insurance companies don’t want to pay for them. But sure, tell me again how technology is improving our lives.
Wobbly Rat that is Very Fat (Submission author) 6 months ago
Now that I think about it, you're right too. We have both products that are ones we need and ones that we don't. We have easier messaging, socialization apps, entertainment, education, electricity, etc. But in the end the Earth is polluted.
Load More Replies... #14
Listening to an audiobook is NOT the same as reading. One is not superior to the other, they are simply different activities! If I listen to NPR is that the same as reading a newspaper? Or a podcast, is that the same as reading a magazine? If you can drive a car WHILE doing it, it's not reading.
Final score:
42points
Todd 7 months ago
They are different tasks. I have always been a poor reader so I listen to book. Glad I have the option.
Sara (Submission author) 7 months ago
Audiobooks are great! As a librarian I'm thrilled when people consume books regardless of the medium.
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lex 7 months ago
I honestly can't take in any information from audiobooks, I don't know if that's just me though
Sara (Submission author) 6 months ago
Me too, I think it's because it doesn't demand complete focus like reading does
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Milady Blue 6 months ago
Audio books are VERY helpful for dyslexics. I have a dear friend, who is highly intelligent, but reads very slowly thanks to his dyslexia. Audio books opened up a whole universe of possibilities for him, fiction and nonfiction, that he otherwise would not have had. Audio books aren't for everyone - I prefer hard copy books made of paper. But they should NOT be disdained, simply because someone does not like them.
(Awkward) Dumpster Fire 7 months ago
I agree with both options but I like the smell of the books more so I lean towards physical copies more often
Michael Largey 6 months ago
Audio books don't handle footnotes well. (Neither do ebooks.) Some of the best stuff in a book is sometimes in the footnotes. The Flashman series, for instance.
zovjraar me 6 months ago
agreed! i used to read all the time; now i listen to podcast stories and audiobooks. completely different experience, different parts of the brain engaged, ect. one is not "better" than the other, they just are.
Kat Alison 6 months ago
Audiobooks make me sleepy. Probably because when I was little, my mom read to me at bedtime.
Paulina 6 months ago
So what, if I listened to the audio version of the book, I can't say I read it? 😆 Everybody knows that listening is different form of activity from reading - only an idiot would think to argue about that. But people accusing others with "yoU DiDn'T rEAd it, iT wAs AuDioBoOk!" are also idiots who's only purpose is to make themselves feel superior in any way possible.
#15
Gen X here. I am all about gentle parenting style. However, in addition to raising an emotionally healthy child, please make sure to teach them about applying themselves and respect for the space of others.
Final score:
42points
Child of the Stars 6 months ago
The second part of this is why so many people say they don't like gentle parenting. Too many people-parents and non-parents alike-confuse gentle parenting with permissive parenting.
BrownEyedGrrl 6 months ago
An acquaintance has an 8-year-old. She acted like it was funny when he threw a controller & broke their (only) TV. No consequences at all. Aw HELL NO!
K Barnes 6 months ago
Natural/logical consequences are really healthy and important for kids. Consequences exist in the world and sheltering your kid from them does them a HUGE disservice in preparing them for reality.
Load More Replies... Paulina 6 months ago
Funny, how I keep reading more and more people complaining about "gentle parenting" and nonviolent methods, but I never actually meet any parents that would fit the description. None of the unruly or disrespectful kids I've seen have been raised by parents claiming they are practicing gentle parenting. Only parents that simply don't give a fück. It makes me feel like this is a problem invented (probably by Gen X) to complain about "kids these days". Someone heard about "new" methods of parenting, then saw badly behaving children and confused the two together 🤷♀️
K Barnes 6 months ago
My brother and his partner are 'gentle' parents. Their older boy in naturally calm and responsible and it's very effective with him. Their younger is not naturally calm or responsible and the method is VERY INEFFECTIVE with him. That kid needs some NOs and boundaries badly but they think it's "mean". He's starting to calm down a bit, thank goodness, but that boy can manipulate his parents like a pro.
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TW: ED
Eating disorders do NOT have a "look" or a "weight," because there are many different types of EDs and not everyone has the same starting weight. This is something I personally have faced while in treatment. I've never been severely underweight, and because of this, it look me a long time to actually get a diagnosis/start treatment. Doctors typically would say "oh you're fine," even when I clearly was really struggling. It wasn't until I developed cardiac issues that I was actually taken seriously.
Final score:
40points
Peeka_Mimi 6 months ago
I have some kind of EDs and I think it stems from a lifetime of food insecurity. Once I had enough money to eat more than once a day, I started eating a lot. It took a long time to break that habit. The damage done is that I shot up to 280lbs (at 5'5") since then I've lost 118lbs and am now 20lbs overweight. I'm working on changing that. However my stupid body thinks it's always hungry and I have to fight it endlessly.
zovjraar me 6 months ago
omg, same.... kind of. didn't have food insecurity, but couldn't afford the junk food i wanted so bad. so when i could afford it on my own, i bought it all and stuffed myself. i swear i don't know how to be even a little bit hungry anymore. at the first tinge, i have to eat something. congrats on your weight loss! i've been struggling with it for years now.
Load More Replies... Kat Alison 6 months ago
Doctors are so biased in favour of weight loss that their standard recommendation for any health concern is “lose weight.” Sore throat? Broken arm? “Lose weight.”
Dog Mom to Zoe 6 months ago
Neither do all disabilities. My sister is a chronic asthmatic so she has a handicap plaque on her car because walking across a huge parking lot can cause an attack.
#17
There are not enough resources (food, space, clean air, etc,) for humanity now. Telling people they should be having multiple children without considering the future they will be living in is irresponsible and a danger to future generations.
Final score:
35points
Roxy222uk 6 months ago
There absolutely is enough to go round if it were all distributed fairly. Trustworthy research shows that 1/3 of the food that is grown is wasted. **1/3**!
Peeka_Mimi 6 months ago
It's not that we dont have enough. It's that we cannot satiate the wealthy's greed.
Kat Alison 6 months ago
There would be plenty of resources available if rich people were willing to share. There should be no such thing as a billionaire. That said….the earth does NOT need humans cranking out more and more babies. We’re living like rats in an overcrowded cage already.
Uncle Schmickle 6 months ago
Absolutely agree. Human overpopulation is the root cause of all the world's problems. Just think about it.
BeKind&Rewind 6 months ago
You can say that now, but when there are not enough people to take care of our aging population, you will be singing a different tune folks!
Andie Day 6 months ago
Believe me, there are plenty of people willing and able to come in to this country and care for our aging population. Unfortunately, you'll have to pay them a living wage and treat them like human beings. Most likely you think that your daughter or DIL should be taking care of you, most likely putting their life on hold with no compensation. That way when their trad husband dumps her for the new model wife she can figure out who's going to take care of her in her old age. It's not a problem of enough people, it's that you don't like their color or where they're from.
Load More Replies... #18
Face and neck tattoos are trashy and awful
Final score:
29points
Roni Stone 6 months ago
One of our bank officers is a man I believe is Polynesian, who has long black hair he keeps in a bun and tattoos that mark his neck all the way around above his shirt collar. He definitely carries those tattoos well. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on this, but face and body modifications are historically tribal and ritualistic sacred markings. Now if you're talking about guys or gals tattooing skulls on their own faces or something, I'm with ya.
Katiekat (Submission author) 6 months ago
I ADORE tribal and ritual sacred markings, those are great. But yeah, just random stuff on necks and faces, hard pass.
Load More Replies... Andie Day 6 months ago
I'm no fan of tats, and occasionally I have to squint my eyes at someone who is covered in them. I don't like 'em, but that's on me. You do you. Ain't no skin off my nose. And the rest of you old biddies with your judgmental 'trashy' and 'awful' and 'horrible'--just get over yourselves and look in the other direction. The only disgusting tat is one that is racist or hateful. And the ugly isn't so much on the skin as it is inside the person wearing it.
Dog Mom to Zoe 6 months ago
Not a fan of tattoos below the wrists or above the collar bone. But would not deter me from meeting someone with same tattoos; I just don't find them attractive.
Jerry Jacques 6 months ago
Your free to do what you want but don't think I will give I will give you a job.
Katiekat (Submission author) 6 months ago
You're free etc., and "I will give I will give" is a major repetitive typo/lack of proofreading. Also, I'm not looking for a job, and don't want you as a boss!
Load More Replies... #19
Robin Hood is the best Disney animated film by far.
Final score:
28points
Blackmoon The Dragon 7 months ago
YES. This is a hidden gem and whoever has not watched it before needs to NOW.
BeesEelsAndPups 6 months ago
YES! I played it for my kids, and they loved it. It holds up to the test of time
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MalayDragon 7 months ago
Robin Hood and Little John, walking through the forest Laughing back and forth at what the other'n has to say Reminiscing this and that and having such a good time Oo-de-lally, oo-de-lally, golly, what a day
WeirdestCal20 7 months ago
Ummm, I hated it when I was younger, that's only because I had a teacher who would play it EVERY. SINGLE. DAY!!!!!!!!!
Stuart Pinel 7 months ago
Young me having my appendix out, on a childrens ward with no TV signal and this film played CONSTANTLY. It is a really good film but it was about 25 years before I saw it again...
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BrownEyedPanda 6 months ago
I was already stoked by the fact that Peter Ustinov was the voice of Prince John. But when Robin professed his love to Maid Marian ("Marian, I love you more than life itself."), I. Freaking. Melted. That cartoon is a permanent member of my Disney collection.
#20
Sticks for dogs. I worked hard for Lou to ignore sticks. No eating sticks, no running with sticks, no throwing sticks. I know too many dogs that got hurt that way. Every once in a while people will throw a stick for him, I will educate them and most think it's no big deal but cave. I am proud to say Lou ignores them 99.999% of the time even when other dogs play with them.
Final score:
28points
TotallyNOTAFox 7 months ago
My dog was obsessed with stones - just for bringing them home and add them to his collection
My O My 6 months ago
Actually they aren't good at all. The basically sand down the teeth over time what results in dental problems. Take others balls ;)
Load More Replies... Blackmoon The Dragon 7 months ago
This is actually a pretty good idea, I might use this eventually :)
Peeka_Mimi 6 months ago
My Belgian Malinois likes me to throw sticks when we are outside. She loves me to also throw balls in the house. She is obsessed. There's no winning when you try to argue with Dulce.
#21
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and their own beliefs.
We disagree on politics, religion, vaccines, homosexuality, or [insert pithy reason here]? Doesn't matter. I'll respect your right to your beliefs AND won't unfriend you just because we don't agree. Oh, and I also won't be the one to argue with you every time the subject comes up.
It's not so difficult to be respectful, even if you disagree. I won't judge your background or the reasons behind your beliefs, but I will expect the same respect in return.
Final score:
28points
Earonn - 7 months ago
As long as your opinions won't harm people, you can believe into pink elephants living on the surface of Titan, for all I care. Once your belief requires others to suffer for something they don't hurt anyone with, you can tolerate my opinion: that my time is too valuable to spend it with twats.
Aroace tiger (she/they/he) 7 months ago
I cannot accept someone who is homophobic. I refuse to accept someone who won't accept something i cannot control about myself. Respecting beliefs like that would just be disrespecting myself.
Jill Rhodry 6 months ago
Not only is not a choice, but it doesn't affect their life at all
Load More Replies... Roni Stone 7 months ago
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not every opinion is a valid opinion. That is the best I can do.
liam newton-harding 6 months ago
I’m sorry, but people are not “entitled” to their opinions, when those opinions are, quite literally, harmful to others. Not all beliefs deserve respect. Some beliefs deserve to be mocked, and ridiculed, especially when those beliefs mean the person holding those beliefs see other people as things.
Kat Alison 6 months ago
I unfriend people whose “opinions” dehumanize others, bully people, or spread disinformation. If you want my time and attention, you can’t be an a s s h o l e.
Michael Largey 6 months ago
You are entitled to your own opinions. But I am likewise entitled to my opinion of you, and what you say will influence it.
zovjraar me 6 months ago
no. if a person has no empathy for others, i don't have empathy for them. you get what you give.
Julianne Johnson 6 months ago
I'm fine when it's you like tea and I like coffee. But this is a cheap cop out if the real difference is I believe in human rights for everyone and you don't. I will absolutely judge you. and avoid you, if you are one of those people who think empathy for others is "weak" and try to pass that off as a "political choice." Nope. Not having it. When you endanger brown people, LBTGQ folks, put trans kids in danger, tell women what to do with their bodies, I'm judging the h*ll out of you. And I'm never going to stop.
goldoche 6 months ago
As you should. Queer people, bipoc, all minorities exist and have rights. It's not a belief nor an opinion, it's a fact.
Load More Replies... Andie Day 6 months ago
Nope. I'm tired of giving respect to people whose politics and religion are racist and cause harm to other people by the policies they support. I'm tired of dealing with anti-vacs whose beliefs are putting others at risk. I don't respect your hatred and selfishness anymore.
#22
Strawberry milk is superior to chocolate and coffee flavoured. Let the hating commence.
Final score:
27points
Lost Panda 7 months ago
I always preferred the strawberry to chocolate, but in elementary school it was always the one that sold out first XD
WeirdestCal20 7 months ago
I don't like it because I feel like throwing up after drinking it, mind you, I saw someone throw up after drinking strawberry milk
Kat Alison 6 months ago
Milk in general is nasty stuff. I consider it a condiment (put in coffee or on cereal) or an ingredient that some recipes call for. But drinking any kind of milk straight seems to me like drinking a glass of ketchup or mustard.
Michael Largey 6 months ago
It all depends on the food you eat it with. Strawberry milk and pickles?
#23
Into the Woods isn't that good. It's just fine.
Final score:
24points
Fire Singer 6 months ago
I didn't even think it was fine. I found it boring and irritating. :P But if others enjoy it that's all well and good!
#24
Plagiarism. Was accused twice in college and when I was assigned to write for government, my boss deleted a quotation mark to p**s me off. It worked, and I fought him hard and won. One of my undergrad profs said she loved reading my papers. Another time, back in the day, they would leave your submissions in a box for you to pick up after grading. More than once, mine disappeared only to be returned a few days later. I guess that is a compliment. I want to get back into writing. My specialty is data + law = policy.
Final score:
13points
Michael Largey 6 months ago
A superior told me that he liked a speech I gave so much that he wanted a copy to keep. I later discovered that he has given my speech all over the country.
#25
Fishing is a form of therapy
(And shut yo butț up if you think it’s cruelty. I personally think it’s fine as long you don’t make the fish suffer)
Final score:
13points
Auntriarch 6 months ago
I also think it's fine as long as you don't make the fish suffer. I just can't think of a way of fishing that doesn't make the fish suffer. My dad used to really enjoy fishing he said the trick was to not use a hook and you could just sit there quietly all day
Katiekat 6 months ago
Ya, but if you just want to sit quietly all day, why buy all the supplies, and why not just get out in nature?
Load More Replies... Jallamedalla 6 months ago
If you k**l it, you eat it. Water animal or land animal. And yes, I k**l both and eat both.
K Barnes 6 months ago
The hallmark of someone open to hearing differing opinions and examining their own beliefs: "shut yo butt up if you think blank, because I don't". How is ripping a hole in something's face not cruel? This person just doesn't want to deal with the fact that their hobby, while fun, does harm fish. Deny, deny, deny, that's the playbook.
Laura Spring 6 months ago
I like fishing. I just don't like putting worms on the hook or taking the fish off the hook. Basically I like to cast and reel and drink beer on a sunny day.
#26
I really despise this new trend in books, this trend of plagiarising other books and not getting called out for it. I mean, come on, I really can’t be the only one who noticed the blatant plagiarism. For example, Powerless plagiarised Harry Potter, Red Queen, and the Hunger Games, but is really loved despite all that?? The entire zodiac academy series plagiarism the Cruel Prince, as well as KOTLC. How is this even fair or right? What happened to creativity and originality?
Final score:
12points
Mreoww (Submission author) 6 months ago
Just wanted to add the most appalling case of plagiarism I recently found out about. Cassandra Clare’s book “the sword catcher” is an exact copy of VE Schwab’s book “a darker shade of magic”. The main characters have got the exact same names, exact same background stories, exact same lives. It’s ridiculous.
Jill Rhodry 6 months ago
Yeah, but when is it plagarised, inspired by or derivative - Harry Potter for example - I don't mind inspiration but when you can point to the exact reference - is that plagarised or simply derivative and lazy writing
Load More Replies... Stuart Pinel 7 months ago
I will just mention Neil Gaimen's The Books of Magic which were written and published before Harry Potter and the remarkable similarities seem to indicate that Harry Potter was yet another rip off that should be in your list.
Rinso The Red 6 months ago
Harry Potter is a rip off of Neil Gaiman's "The Books of Magic". Round and round we go
nzn5xqgvz8 6 months ago
Yes, but everything is stolen/influenced from everything else. It’s wrong when it’s done intentionally or blatantly, but it’s not black and white.
#27
People (especially on Bored Panda) like to blame business owners for the existence and proliferation of tipping culture. But those owners are just utilizing a system that exists in some societies that they find to be an effective practice for their type of business. The fact is that tipping culture exists for two reasons: 1. There are employees who are willing to work for tips, and 2. Customers are willing to pay tips. If workers would refuse to take jobs where they would be paid in tips and/or customers would refuse to pay tips, then obviously tipping would end.
Final score:
11points
Michael Largey 6 months ago
Slave owners were also "just utilizing a system that exists in some societies that they find to be an effective practice for their type of business."
Forrest Grump (Submission author) 6 months ago
That is not a fair comparison because people did not volunteer to become slaves. Total fail for you.
Load More Replies... Lost Panda 7 months ago
I might be inclined to agree with this one. I'll even add that while people say "pay a living wage," they forget that there are many people in this world that even if their wage was raised to remove the tipping, more than half of those people would complain that they were no longer receiving tips and that they deserve said tips.
R.C. 7 months ago
You're right. In Ontario, the government did away with the server minimum wage in 2022. Servers now have the same minimum wage as everyone else but tipping is still expected. And the tipping culture is still just as out of control as anywhere else.
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Robert Millar 6 months ago
I've read quite a lot of opinions here, and I can add a little. I live in Sweden. When I first settled here, there was a standard 12.5% service charge in sit down restaurants, and nothing in lunch restaurants, pizza/kebab/sandwich etc. Restaurants would normally pay an equitable wage. Then that surcharge was removed, and most people (that I know) would leave 10% or more, depending on how pleased they were. Note that prices also generally increased to cover the old charge. Now, as soon as the new payment systems became available, the options to tip appear everywhere, (but not always lunch restaurants). This has caused a lot of resentment. Nobody wants a 20% tax on things they buy, and 5% on a single half litre beer looks odd. My problem is not the money, but the "culture" itself. I might be simplistic, but I would like prices to reflect the materials and work that goes into what I buy, without having some cultural burden to complicate things.
trevor 7 months ago
How do countries that don't have tipping as a necessity keep their workers ?
Lost Panda 7 months ago
In countries that don't have tipping as a "necessity", I am willing to bet that the culture is not a tipping culture. This would mean that the employees are not willing to work for tips or expect tips.
Load More Replies... Peeka_Mimi 6 months ago (edited)
I wouldn't say I am willing to tip, as I would prefer for employers to pay their staff a living wage. That said, I was raised with good manners and that includes respecting people who do a service for me. Ergo, I always tip and I tip well.
Forrest Grump (Submission author) 6 months ago
You wrote "I would prefer for employers to pay their staff a living wage." Try reading my post.
Load More Replies... Aroace tiger (she/they/he) 7 months ago
Where will these people work? Its not that easy to just get a different job. And refusing to pay tips just starves the staff
Forrest Grump (Submission author) 7 months ago (edited)
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Load More Replies... Dog Mom to Zoe 6 months ago
I no longer tip unless I get serviced from a table or delivery. But if I stand in line to order food, and pick up my own, don't tip. I also bus my own table in those situations.
iseefractals 7 months ago
Trey parker and Matt Stone bought and renovated Casa Bonita. A resort style restaurant, with live entertainment, Arcade, pools and cliff diving among other things. During the test open, they observed that patrons, really hated having to tip...so they opted to abolish tipping and pay their servers a flat $25 per hour. That's $52,000 a year. How did the waitstaff respond? They revolted! They were outraged....because the dirty little secret is, that they'd be better of getting a salary of $2.13 per hour, and relying on tips. So Matt and Trey upped the hourly rate to $30/hr....that's $62,400/yr. Yet many remained upset. Casa bonita is 52,000 sq feet, seats 1100, with an average 3,300 guests per day. They hired 150 kitchen staff and 140 servers. Assuming 2 shifts, that means at any given time 70 servers are handling 24 diners per shift who spend $1,200 total with the new expectation being 25% tip, they could make $300 per shift, as opposed the $200 at $25/hr or $240 at $30/hr.
Forrest Grump (Submission author) 7 months ago
Thank you for the example that confirms my reason #1.
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“Let's say that the consensus is that our species, being the higher primates, Homo Sapiens, has been on the planet for at least 4,000 years, maybe more. In order to be a Christian, you have to believe that our species suffered and died, most of its children dying in childbirth, most other people having a life expectancy of about 25 years, dying of their teeth. Famine, struggle, bitterness, war, suffering, misery.
Heaven watches this with complete indifference. And then 2000 years ago, thinks 'That's enough of that. It's time to intervene,' and the best way to do this would be by condemning someone to a human sacrifice somewhere in the less literate parts of the Middle East.
Don't lets appeal to the Chinese, for example, where people can read and study evidence and have a civilization. Let's go to the desert and have another revelation there. This is nonsense. It can't be believed by a thinking person.
Final score:
11points
Uncle Schmickle 6 months ago
Homo sapiens has probably been around for 100,000 years. The Australian Aborigines have been here for 65,000 years.
Börje Strömming 6 months ago
the general consensus is that we have been around for at least 300,000 years. “ The earliest fossils of Homo sapiens have been dated to approximately 300,000 years ago, with the Jebel Irhoud site in Morocco providing some of the oldest evidence”
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nicholas nolan 6 months ago
Man, the bigotry involved in calling the land of the Hebrews "one of the less literate places in the middle east" is downright hilarious. Just no concept of historical accuraccy at all. I won't comment on the rest of it but good lord...
Andie Day 6 months ago
Have an upvote to disappear that downvote. This whole post is downright hilari....er, no. Just stupid.
Load More Replies... Michael Largey 6 months ago
If you've been around for all eternity, 2000 years is less than an eyeblink to wait.
#29
History buff here to say that Katherine Howard, the fifth wife of Henry VIII did not willingly cheat on him! I am prepared to fight any one who says otherwise because she was 19 and will always be innocent.
Final score:
10points
BeesEelsAndPups 6 months ago
While I don't think a 19 year old is incapable of cheating, I also don't think she was super thrilled to be married to the man. Additionally, I don't think there's any evidence that she was sexually active with anyone AFTER the marriage (other than Henry). I think the issue was that she had been sexually active with others PRIOR to the marriage, and the worry would have been that if she were pregnant, she would put the line of succession at risk. Additionally, her letters to Thomas Culpeper didn't help her cause, and could themselves have been seen as treasonous, at least for the time. But the real problem was that Henry was nearly 50 years old, marrying a young girl, and even at that time, it raised quite a few eyebrows. So when the letters she wrote to Culpeper became known, this infuriated Henry as it made him look the cuckold. Ultimately, that's what likely got her killed. But in all seriousness, her making plans for after Henry's death makes perfect sense to me.
Kat Alison 6 months ago
It was so far back in time, how can anybody now know for sure? Besides, girls in their late teens do not always want to remain innocent, protected little girls, never touched by a man. When I was in my late teens, my friends and I were all s e x u a l l y curious, and we resented adult c o c k blocking intended to “protect” us. Source: I was a teenage girl once upon a time.
Dragons Exist 5 months ago
"she was 19 and will always be innocent"? People really need to stop acting like kids (even though she wasn't even a kid) are innocent and can do nothing wrong
#30
I've got two, a nice one and a very controversial one. The controversial one: I don't think that all cats are better off being inside the house all the time. There are circumstances which make it better for the cat (big street nearby) or the environment (breeding birds nearby) but it's not a one-size-fits-all. The nice one: Locrian Ajax didn't r**e Cassandra, that's a later addition from a time when people didn't understand the way he died (with earth, lightning and the sea being involved). He most likely represents an old shamanic belief in Locris.
Final score:
9points
iseefractals 7 months ago
My dad found an emaciated little kitten shortly after he was paralyzed at 21 He was living in his grandparents farmhouse, nearest neighbor was half a mile in any direction. It wandered up to his porch shrieking desperately but he couldn't get close to it. So he put food, milk and a cardboard box with a blanket in it. Over the next few days it warmed up to him and eventually climbed up his leg and curled up in his lap. But it continued to want to go outside, which he figured was safe, lots of open property no major streets....and all was fine. When the cat was about 7, she just didn't come home one day. Day turned into a week, turned into a month...he assumed the worst. But week 6...he hears something scratching at the door, and he finds her, again emaciated, missing half an ear, broken leg that had healed badly.....and she had somehow managed to get her front leg, through her collar which was still around her neck....and had been that way for awhile it seems......
iseefractals 7 months ago
because it had almost worn through her fur, skin and almost all the way through her muscle. Vet said she was hours away from death. She had sepsis, her kidneys were almost shut down, infection spread to her heart, extremely malnourished (from 14lbs down to 3.5) But she was a tough ol' girl. She had to have multiple surgeries, spent 8 weeks under direct observation of the vet, multiple rounds of IV antibiotics. She became an indoor cat after that, and lived to 24. When i was 5, another black kitten came to our back door, 4 weeks old maybe. We took it in, but continued to let it out. I watched her get hit by a school bus on my 15th birthday. My wifes ginger got hit by a car, in the parking lot of our building, lower jaw almost ripped off. Strays are a big problem in romania...there are alot, but i try to care for all of them but they remain outside cats. In the first 4 or 5 years i was here...i had to clean up over 200 bodies. I stopped counting after that...but hundreds more since.
Load More Replies... Peeka_Mimi 6 months ago
I will never let my cats outside because it's not safe for them. I'll die on that hill.
Gingersnap In Iowa 6 months ago
Baby girl is an indoor/outdoor cat. When the weather is nice she's outside all day and will only come in to eat. She does sleep inside bc of other critters roaming around the neighborhood.
Stuart Pinel 7 months ago
My first cat was a former stray - we thought he was a kitten but the vet told us he was at least 5 y/o, merely that size due to malnutrition. He never would have been happy as a purely indoor cat - indeed, even though we'd have happilly let him out, he'd frequently dart for the door at high speeds when it was opened which would have made it really difficult to keep him in. So although I would much prefer to keep cats as indoor only, I don't think it always works for the cat.
Lady Eowyn 7 months ago
House cats should be in the house. Indoor-outdoor cats have a better chance of getting lost or hurt. And a far better chance of killing songbirds.
Callum Young 6 months ago
I agree: incarcerating an animal for the crime of being born is contemptible and "enrichment" is a joke. Cats tell us in every way that they can that they want to be outside. Yes, of course bad things can happen even in safe neighbourhoods. Bad things happen all the time to all kinds of species. But if you wouldn't want it done to yourself, don't do it to others. Have some respect. My cat was indoors for years (yes, because I believed the finger-waggers), but her quality of life increases noticeably when we moved to a place where it was safe for her to go out. She became a much happier cat, and I'm sick that allowed other people to over-ride what's clearly obvious to anyone paying attention to what the cat itself wants. I understand that there are probably cats that, given the opportunity to go out may not want to.
Beth Wheeler 6 months ago
Our 13.5 yo 6 lb Himalayan has always been an inside cat. There are hawks and coyotes that could get her. Do the little princess diva girl only goes outside in her carrier for vet visits.
#31
It’s red sauce on bacon baps and brown on sausage
Final score:
5points
BeesEelsAndPups 6 months ago
And malt vinegar on fish and chips (yes both the fish and the chips)! On this hill I shall die!
Roni Stone 6 months ago
I'll bring the chips and a flag to plant on the hill, and we can die together.
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#32
Cheese is overrated.
There, i said it.
Final score:
3points
Liv 7 months ago
I don't know where you live, but you wouldn't survive in wisconsin...or Green Bay specifically
BeesEelsAndPups 6 months ago
I love cheese, but I don't think I would survive there either. Too cold
Load More Replies... Roni Stone 7 months ago
Only my gut thinks it's overrated. My mouth, however, thinks it's the GOAT.
Roxy222uk 6 months ago
You are absolutely 100% correct. Let me take one for the team and eat all your cheese for you.
Andie Day 6 months ago
I, too, will stand forth as a sacrifice to the Lord Cheezus.
Load More Replies... Crystalwitch60 7 months ago
Omg did you really just say that lol , do not come to uk then or France , wash your mouth out 😂😂😂😂
What do you think ?
Pittsburgh rare 7 months ago
Raisins are vile and ruin anything they put them on. That's my hill. Everything else is negotiable, but don't come at me praising those edible bed bugs. I don't care
Eri J 7 months ago (edited)
Oops. I posted twice. I can't delete the second one?? I reported it so maybe it'll the repeat post will get deleted. They really need to fix it so we can delete double posts ourselves.
trevor 7 months ago
I was going to comment about the double entry .... something about adding forgetfulness to your list of disadvantages.... lucky I read down to the comments. lol
Load More Replies... Little Bit 6 months ago
There's a world of difference between quiet and shy. I've always been an observer, a thinker and a doer rather than a talker but I never shy away from anything. I am often the first to introduce myself to others and start up a conversation when I am in the company of strangers. If somebody challenges me to something I will do it without question. I love trying and learning new things. Public speaking doesn't phase me. Just because I'm not loud and brash it does not make me shy.
Blackmoon The Dragon (Post author) 6 months ago (edited)
This is VERY true. There is a VERY big difference between quiet and shy. Me on the other hand, I am shy XD unless its a person I've been around a lot, or on the Internet
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Calypso poet 6 months ago
I've never been to a taco John's because there are none around here but i believe you.
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Dog Mom to Zoe 6 months ago
It's okay to like children but not want them. It's okay to have a partner and never wanting to get married.
Rick Murray 6 months ago
I trust when I die it'll be a grenade and it'll get blown to ludicrous gibs - because it seems there are quite a few hills that I'm going to die on, and that's the only way to cover them all (in little gooey Rick bits).
Tobias Reaper 6 months ago
Brussel sprouts are vile and disgusting and anyone who eats them and thinks they are delicious are probably and alien in disguise
Ellinor 6 months ago
Try to cook bacon and then cook the brussel sprouts in the grease of the bacon, it will be much better !
Load More Replies... Pittsburgh rare 7 months ago
Raisins are vile and ruin anything they put them on. That's my hill. Everything else is negotiable, but don't come at me praising those edible bed bugs. I don't care
Eri J 7 months ago (edited)
Oops. I posted twice. I can't delete the second one?? I reported it so maybe it'll the repeat post will get deleted. They really need to fix it so we can delete double posts ourselves.
trevor 7 months ago
I was going to comment about the double entry .... something about adding forgetfulness to your list of disadvantages.... lucky I read down to the comments. lol
Load More Replies... Little Bit 6 months ago
There's a world of difference between quiet and shy. I've always been an observer, a thinker and a doer rather than a talker but I never shy away from anything. I am often the first to introduce myself to others and start up a conversation when I am in the company of strangers. If somebody challenges me to something I will do it without question. I love trying and learning new things. Public speaking doesn't phase me. Just because I'm not loud and brash it does not make me shy.
Blackmoon The Dragon (Post author) 6 months ago (edited)
This is VERY true. There is a VERY big difference between quiet and shy. Me on the other hand, I am shy XD unless its a person I've been around a lot, or on the Internet
Load More Replies... Calypso poet 6 months ago
I've never been to a taco John's because there are none around here but i believe you.
Load More Replies... Dog Mom to Zoe 6 months ago
It's okay to like children but not want them. It's okay to have a partner and never wanting to get married.
Rick Murray 6 months ago
I trust when I die it'll be a grenade and it'll get blown to ludicrous gibs - because it seems there are quite a few hills that I'm going to die on, and that's the only way to cover them all (in little gooey Rick bits).
Tobias Reaper 6 months ago
Brussel sprouts are vile and disgusting and anyone who eats them and thinks they are delicious are probably and alien in disguise
Ellinor 6 months ago
Try to cook bacon and then cook the brussel sprouts in the grease of the bacon, it will be much better !
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