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Man Refuses To Help Working-Mom Wife With Household Chores Until She Picks Up After Herself
Man Refuses To Help Working-Mom Wife With Household Chores Until She Picks Up After Herself
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Man Refuses To Help Working-Mom Wife With Household Chores Until She Picks Up After Herself

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Some people just can’t seem to read the room. It’s like they have a knack for saying the worst thing at the worst possible time. Sometimes, instead of offering support, people just end up adding fuel to the fire, quickly turning a well-meaning moment into a full-blown family drama.

That’s exactly what happened when one Redditor decided to make an unhelpful comment just as his overwhelmed wife was looking for a bit of compassion.

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    Working wife and mom feels overwhelmed by house chores, tries to talk to her husband about it but he brushes it off saying he’ll do the dishes when she picks up after herself

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    Both the wife and the husband have full-time jobs plus an infant baby, but the husband thinks his wife is too messy and doesn’t shy away from letting her know

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    The wife takes a week off work to take care of the baby when the daycare is closed, but struggles with maintaining a clean house while looking after the baby

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    The overwhelmed wife has a meltdown in front of her husband, but he tells her that the messiness issues would be solved is she “just picked up after herself”

    The OP (original poster), a hardworking dad, was married to an equally industrious woman, both holding down demanding jobs. He was clocking in 12-hour shifts while she managed 8-hour ones, all while taking care of their adorable one-year-old daughter. Sounds like a modern-day super couple, right? But here’s where things get a little dicey.

    During the day, while both parents were at work, their daughter was spending her time at daycare. But, as her provider was out sick for a while, mom had to take a whole week off work to take care of the baby. Meanwhile, dad stepped up and worked an extra day to cover the financial gap. What a hero, right? Not so fast.

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    Despite dad’s extra efforts, mom was still feeling the heat. We get it, juggling a toddler, house chores, and everything in between can be a real pressure cooker. When dad noticed his wife was looking stressed out, he asked what was wrong and her emotional floodgates opened.

    She told her husband that she was struggling with balancing work, the baby, and keeping their home from looking like a Turkish bazaar. And here’s where dad might’ve stepped on a landmine. He calmly explained that cutting back his work hours wasn’t an option, as they needed the income.

    Instead, he suggested a solution: if she could just tidy up after herself a bit more, he’d handle the dishes. We’re guessing that seemed logical to him at that time.

    His wife, however, didn’t seem too thrilled with this housekeeping proposal and became visibly upset. Dad, thinking he did nothing wrong, asked his coworker for some validation. He shared the incident with him, only to be slapped with a “You’re a jerk” and the Reddit community agreed, voting him the A-hole. Yikes!

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    This little drama got us thinking about how times have changed since the days of strictly defined gender roles. Sometimes, old habits die hard, and navigating modern expectations can be trickier than expected.

    Traditional gender roles have been around for ages, like an old-fashioned script that casts men as the breadwinners and women as the homemakers. Back in the day, it was almost as if society handed out job descriptions at birth: guys got the outside tasks like hunting and building, while women handled the inside gigs like cooking and cleaning.

    However, over time, this setup got a major rewrite thanks to social changes, evolving towards a more balanced and modern take on household roles. In cases where both partners have full-time jobs plus kids, sharing household chores fairly is very important for maintaining harmony in a relationship.

    According to experts, “When you or your partner are unhappy about the allocation of household chores, the stress level in your home can increase tremendously. Researchers have found that the unequal distribution of housework is one of the top stressors in many relationships.”

    Now, we’re not saying our dad was not helping his wife around the house, but maybe he could have been a bit more sensitive about her feelings. It would have probably been a good idea if he just did the dishes without commenting on her “messiness” and invalidating her emotions.

    Marriage counselors explain that emotional invalidation is often the main cause of many relationship problems, whether it’s feeling disconnected from your partner or constantly arguing. What’s surprising is that many of us aren’t even aware when we’re invalidating our partners’ feelings.

    To find out more on this topic, Bored Panda reached out to Dr. Carla Marie Manly, clinical psychologist, podcast host and author of “The Joy of Imperfect Love”. She told us that emotional validation is basically the foundation of any healthy relationship. When it’s there, partners feel noticed, understood, and loved. It helps them feel closer and more secure with each other. But when emotional validation is missing, real intimacy and connection just can’t grow.

    We asked Dr. Manly to name some subtle ways partners might unintentionally invalidate each other’s feelings. She told us that “Partners may unconsciously invalidate each other’s feelings with subtle body language such as looking away, eye rolling, or grimacing. Partners who are less emotionally aware may unintentionally discount a partner’s feelings with statements such as, ‘You shouldn’t feel that way,’ or ‘You’re too sensitive.’ As well, many people who are uncomfortable with their emotional world ignore their partner’s emotions; this often-unconscious defense mechanism is an extremely common form of emotional invalidation,” Manly explained.

    We wanted to know what strategies couples can use to validate each other’s feelings during disagreements. Dr. Manly explained that when couples practice emotional validation on everyday, low-key topics, it becomes easier for them to validate each other’s feelings during more stressful moments, like disagreements. Since it takes time for new habits to become ingrained, it’s normal for partners to struggle a bit as they build healthier ways of interacting.

    “Like any new habit, learning to validate a partner’s feelings will take time, empathy, and patience. When a partner forgets to offer emotional validation, it’s important to allow for ‘re-dos.’ This strategy gives partners a chance to call out when they’re not feeling validated, and it gives the other partner the opportunity to pause, ask for a re-do, get attuned to the partner, and then offer healthy validation,” Manly explained.

    What’s your take on this story? Do you think our dad was a jerk for offering to do the dishes if his wife picked up more after herself? Let us know in the comments.

    Netizens say the man is a jerk for telling his wife he will do the dishes when she starts being less messy

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    Hi! I'm Moni. I’m a globetrotting creative with a camera in one hand and a notebook in the other. I’ve lived in 4 different countries, an visited 17, soaking up inspiration wherever I go. A marketer by trade but a writer at heart, I’ve been crafting stories, poems, and songs, and creating quirky characters since I was 7.

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    Amy S
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like she is already a single parent while married. And he'll be surprised when she brings up divorce.

    Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And then when his daughter (who he goes days without seeing) prefers his mother, he'll tell everyone his ex turned his daughter against him.

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    notlikeyou1971
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This man is absolutely clueless! Working, cleaning and taking care of a baby is majority of the work and a lot harder than his job!

    Hphizzle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “… hell, I’ll even put the dishes away.” WOW, sir, you are every woman’s dream man. /s

    arthbach
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think Daddy simply doesn't know how much work it is to look after a 1 year old, essentially by yourself, after having had a full day at work. - - - - An appropriate response from the guy would have been to listen, and then ask if there was anything he could so right now that would help alleviate some of the overwhelming feelings. If she can't think of anything straight away, simply say he's going to wash the dishes/do a load of laundry/clean the bathroom, and get on with it. When the place isn't a 'bomb site', then they can have a discussion about the appropriate distribution of tasks around the home.

    The Other Guest
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a (supposedly) grown-a‍ss adult, he shouldn't have to ask his wife what needs to be done. Surely he can see for himself if the trash can is full, or if there are dishes in the sink, or he‍ll just go and spend an hour or two with his child so his wife can take an uninterrupted shower and maybe even a nap. It's not up to her to spoon-feed him on household chores.

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    Loreta
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How kind of you to offer to help with the dishes in your own home, that you also live in.

    Featherking
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After food you also ate, I’ll presume. Isn’t this man just an absolute gem stone.

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    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve been getting “helpful lectures” like this from my boyfriend for 23 years. They have caused so much built-up stress over time that I’ve had numerous small breakdowns, slept in my van many times (just to get away from him), and attempted suicide twice. I’ve finally clued in and accepted the fact that his attitude is exactly like OP’s, that it IS abuse, that he thinks he’s 100% in the right at all times, and that he’ll never change. I’m finally GTFOing.

    Zedrapazia
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen your story though your posts here, and I wish you good luck with that! Open your wings and fly!

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    Ge Po
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay, small lecture on 'how to listen to your wife if she is complaining.' 1, Listen and acknowledge the fact that she (feels as if she) has a problem. You do not have to agree with it, just acknowledge that she experiences it that way. 2, If during her complaint she talks about feelings, let her express them. Maybe ask what other feelings may coincide with this. 3, optional. If you're a man or maybe a more practically focused woman and you are unsure, ask if she wants you to help find a solution or just wishes to vent. 4, compliment her on the effort she has put in it so far. Yes, woman like to be complimented/validated as well. 5, Offer a hug, some time to de-stress, some time together. 6, In case she also would like to hear your opinion/solution, give it in a way that is not demeaning and keep checking for how she feels about your possible solution. Do not accept a simple 'okay,' if it feels like something is off, stay calm and open and ask her what is wrong.

    Jane Reid
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    5.5) ask her what she thinks the solution should be and then ask if she wants your input. If she's this upset, she's been upset about it long enough to generally have some idea of what might help her out. Then collaborate on a solution.

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    MinDHertz1366
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a man, the "Sympathy or Solutions" approach has worked for me. Listen to her vent and allow her time to get it all out. If she asks for help, you give 110%. If she does not ask, take the hint and see what you can do to assist in everyday life.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the sort of man who thinks that him working longer hours means the woman should be doing all/vast majority of the parenting and household maintenance. News Flash: Those extra hours he things she has while he's working and she isn't, she's intensively parenting their child, cooking for, feeding, bathing dressing, changing etc - it's not leisure time, it's dedicated work. The chores still need to be 50/50.

    Jane
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People should be required to take a course on communication before getting married. She didn't even have a chance to explain what she needed from him before he decided to solve the entire issue by having her clean up after herself. Absolute donut.

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    Amy S
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like she is already a single parent while married. And he'll be surprised when she brings up divorce.

    Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And then when his daughter (who he goes days without seeing) prefers his mother, he'll tell everyone his ex turned his daughter against him.

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    notlikeyou1971
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This man is absolutely clueless! Working, cleaning and taking care of a baby is majority of the work and a lot harder than his job!

    Hphizzle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “… hell, I’ll even put the dishes away.” WOW, sir, you are every woman’s dream man. /s

    arthbach
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think Daddy simply doesn't know how much work it is to look after a 1 year old, essentially by yourself, after having had a full day at work. - - - - An appropriate response from the guy would have been to listen, and then ask if there was anything he could so right now that would help alleviate some of the overwhelming feelings. If she can't think of anything straight away, simply say he's going to wash the dishes/do a load of laundry/clean the bathroom, and get on with it. When the place isn't a 'bomb site', then they can have a discussion about the appropriate distribution of tasks around the home.

    The Other Guest
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a (supposedly) grown-a‍ss adult, he shouldn't have to ask his wife what needs to be done. Surely he can see for himself if the trash can is full, or if there are dishes in the sink, or he‍ll just go and spend an hour or two with his child so his wife can take an uninterrupted shower and maybe even a nap. It's not up to her to spoon-feed him on household chores.

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    Loreta
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How kind of you to offer to help with the dishes in your own home, that you also live in.

    Featherking
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After food you also ate, I’ll presume. Isn’t this man just an absolute gem stone.

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    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve been getting “helpful lectures” like this from my boyfriend for 23 years. They have caused so much built-up stress over time that I’ve had numerous small breakdowns, slept in my van many times (just to get away from him), and attempted suicide twice. I’ve finally clued in and accepted the fact that his attitude is exactly like OP’s, that it IS abuse, that he thinks he’s 100% in the right at all times, and that he’ll never change. I’m finally GTFOing.

    Zedrapazia
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen your story though your posts here, and I wish you good luck with that! Open your wings and fly!

    Load More Replies...
    Ge Po
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay, small lecture on 'how to listen to your wife if she is complaining.' 1, Listen and acknowledge the fact that she (feels as if she) has a problem. You do not have to agree with it, just acknowledge that she experiences it that way. 2, If during her complaint she talks about feelings, let her express them. Maybe ask what other feelings may coincide with this. 3, optional. If you're a man or maybe a more practically focused woman and you are unsure, ask if she wants you to help find a solution or just wishes to vent. 4, compliment her on the effort she has put in it so far. Yes, woman like to be complimented/validated as well. 5, Offer a hug, some time to de-stress, some time together. 6, In case she also would like to hear your opinion/solution, give it in a way that is not demeaning and keep checking for how she feels about your possible solution. Do not accept a simple 'okay,' if it feels like something is off, stay calm and open and ask her what is wrong.

    Jane Reid
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    5.5) ask her what she thinks the solution should be and then ask if she wants your input. If she's this upset, she's been upset about it long enough to generally have some idea of what might help her out. Then collaborate on a solution.

    Load More Replies...
    MinDHertz1366
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a man, the "Sympathy or Solutions" approach has worked for me. Listen to her vent and allow her time to get it all out. If she asks for help, you give 110%. If she does not ask, take the hint and see what you can do to assist in everyday life.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the sort of man who thinks that him working longer hours means the woman should be doing all/vast majority of the parenting and household maintenance. News Flash: Those extra hours he things she has while he's working and she isn't, she's intensively parenting their child, cooking for, feeding, bathing dressing, changing etc - it's not leisure time, it's dedicated work. The chores still need to be 50/50.

    Jane
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People should be required to take a course on communication before getting married. She didn't even have a chance to explain what she needed from him before he decided to solve the entire issue by having her clean up after herself. Absolute donut.

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