Mom Wants To Be Included In This Father-Daughter Camping Trip, Ruins It By Making It About Her

It's vital to stick up for your kids when a parent is flat out wrong. Parents need to apologize to their children when they are flat out shitty parents. Mom for being an entitled asshole and dad for letting it happen. Wtf. Your girls know you're keeping the peace instead of standing up for what's right. That's spineless and not a lesson you should be teaching especially to girls that their feelings do not matter as long as the adults say so. You are not 100% right always bc you're the parent and I can see this just from your comment. Can't imagine what your kids see. This is coming from a 50yr old mother of two teen girls. Empathy needs to be taught especially by example.

And to call your girls females is frigging weird. You sound like a cop and you're talking about a suspect. Emotionless. That's what I see. Therapy would help you so much. Poor young girls to have this as an example. They'll never be able to deal w their emotions bc you can't. I'm sure they aren't allowed to have difficult feelings bc you can't deal w them. Talk about passing on generational trauma. Men have emotions too just as many as women. At your age and being a father you should know this by now

Oh I see! Thanks for the perspective! So if your wife starts burning cigarettes on your kid's face, you should present a united front and help her burn them! I never thought of it like that! Now I understand the stories of spouses that help their husband rape girls, thanks for enlightening us! Now, I'll stop with sarcasm and say that I hope your daughters never realize that their father is not capable of assessing a situation fairly and be on their side when needed. I pity them.

And THAT is how you lose your kids trust in you and why they hide things. That gap widens to a chasm over the years.

"I call it as I see it" -- well, if that's the case, why not call out mom's bs? Compromise must come from mom as well. And what does being the only male around a bunch of females have to do with anything? Are you suggesting that your actions would be different if you had sons? That's so wrong; men and women aren't that different. Much of our differences originate from our upbringing.

So, John were this ONE of your daughter's excursions to the nail salon with mom and you horned in and changed the outcome of the event, that's cool too? Nope yourself out and be the bigger parent, because this was a childish thing to do to over ride the trip that was not funded by you.

As I stated I don't have children but I see how my most friends kids treat their parents and it's sad in some cases, scary in others.

It's only exclusionary if she never did a mother-daughter activity or expressed interest in doing that. My dad and mom and I would, separately, have special bonding time and the other knew it wasn't for the purpose of excluding them! Sounds like the Mom has a bit of a complex...