Dad Has Enough Of Teacher Calling Daughter ‘Kelly,’ Calls Her Out During Online Class
Interview With ExpertHaving a non-traditional name often means that people are going to mispronounce it. When this happens at a young age, especially with authority figures like teachers, it can seriously affect a child’s mental health, their self-confidence and their sense of identity. Not taking the time to pronounce students’ names correctly can also leave them feeling isolated, which hinders their learning abilities.
Aware of these consequences, this parent stepped in to advocate for their daughter when they heard a teacher calling her by something entirely different. However, the pedagogue wasn’t exactly happy about being corrected and even got them in trouble with the school’s principal.
Scroll down to find the full story and a conversation with Dr. Jeannine Jannot, student and parent coach and author of The Disintegrating Student: Struggling But Smart, Falling Apart, and How to Turn It Around, who kindly agreed to talk with us more about the importance of correctly pronouncing students’ names.
Children with non-traditional names often have to listen to others mispronouncing them
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But when it comes from teachers, it can have a serious impact, which is why this parent strongly advocated for their daughter’s name
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“For students, having a teacher mispronounce their name can feel disrespectful, dismissive and, in some cases, hostile”
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Having teachers mispronounce a student’s name can not only be a frustrating experience but also one that hinders a child’s self-esteem and even their learning.
“Addressing someone correctly, whether with pronunciation or their given title, is one way individuals show respect for one another. While adults expect students (children) to be respectful, we often neglect to reciprocate it back to them. This can impact a student’s self-esteem and confidence as they are seeking validation and status as they navigate in their world of peers and adults,” explained Dr. Jeannine Jannot, student and parent coach.
“For students, having a teacher mispronounce their name can feel disrespectful, dismissive and, in some cases, hostile. Much will depend on the difficulty of their name and their history with its pronunciation. In any case, it’s ultimately hurtful and likely to negatively impact their relationship with the teacher and their performance in class.”
Research has found that the failure to pronounce a student’s name correctly impacts their world view and social emotional well-being, which is directly linked to learning. When teachers don’t get students’ names right, they often feel shame and embarrassment because their name appears to be a burden. Consequently, they begin to shy away from their language, culture, and families.
Dr. Jannot says that ideally children should advocate for their name to be pronounced correctly. However, this can depend on a few factors. “First, the child’s personality—if they are more introverted, they are less likely to feel comfortable correcting the teacher,” she said.
“Second, how approachable the teacher is believed to be by the student. And finally, the extent to which the student finds it annoying or upsetting. If it causes enough frustration or aggravation each day in that class, a student would benefit from correcting the issue so they don’t lose productivity in the classroom because their brain is derailed with the stress associated with roll call.”
For those students who might feel apprehensive or shy to correct the teacher if they mispronounce their name, Dr. Jannot suggests sharing the correct pronunciation with them privately, either in person or via email (for an older student). “Parents’ role is not to step in on behalf of their child, but to help their child strategize ways they can handle the situation that will work best for them. They can role-play this at the beginning of each school year and anticipate ways to respond,” she advised.
“There’s no shame in not knowing how to pronounce a name, but how a teacher addresses it is what counts”
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Of course, not all teachers mispronounce names on purpose or out of disrespect. “I believe most teachers are making inadvertent mistakes or lack familiarity with the name. There’s no shame in not knowing how to pronounce a name, but how a teacher addresses it is what counts. Ideally, a teacher would inquire if they have said the name correctly and get validation or corrective feedback. A teacher who shows humility in this case is demonstrating their respect for the student as an individual,” Dr. Jannot explained.
Fortunately, awareness of this issue in schools has increased and many teachers try to do their best to pay special attention to the way students’ names are pronounced. They often do this by making use of Google and taking notes.
“When I taught and took a roll call from a roster at the beginning of a semester, I preemptively asked students to correct me if I said their name wrong. Then I would write the phonetic spelling of the student’s name next to their name on the roster until I learned to associate their name with their face,” shared Dr. Jannot.
“Asking a student to correct them if they mispronounce it in the future also empowers a student to speak up and feel like they are valued and respected. Another strategy is to make note of what the name sounds like. For example, the father of ‘flow theory’ in psychology is Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi. The way many remember how to pronounce it (the mnemonic) is ‘me hi chick sent me hi.'”
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Oh, that teacher is doing it on purpose, no misunderstanding there. And it‘s not as if the name sounds like a swear word or something. This is bullying by the teacher.
Keeley isn't even a strange name! It's not common, sure, but if you can't pronounce keeley you have no business being a teacher
Load More Replies...How TF is Keeley a strange name? I would start calling the teacher by a wrong name and wait for the penny to drop...
I have had this problem my entire life. But usually people are apologetic when they realize they’ve been saying my name incorrectly. So this teacher is definitely an AH.
Does the teacher really think the kids consider her an authority when she can't even pronounce Keely?
When I saw Keely I heard it in my head as Kee-lee. Maybe that's just me. Teacher was being a b***h. Find out the teacher's first name, mis-pronounce it, and see how she likes it. YTAs are, as usual, delulu.
I read it as keel-e so I could see how it would be mistaken at first, but when being corrected the teacher should have used the right name. I'm a teacher and with the way some of these kids names are spelled i butcher them the first day of school doing attendance but I always write a pronunciation next to their name when they correct me so I can learn the right one.
Load More Replies...I don't know where the poster is from, but i can assure you that Keeley is NOT considered a "non-traditional name" here in the UK, or in Ireland, where it originates (spelt as Caoilidh or Caollaidhe). It is reasonably common for girls to be called Keeley, particularly in the North of England.
Keely is not an unusual name, and even if it was, why should that matter?
It’s so annoying when the YTA folks in AITA answer a different question. The question wasn’t whether they should have given their child a different name.
And the name is not to blame, smh. The TEACHER is.
Load More Replies...My name is Deirdre and believe me, I am so happy when someone says it correctly. How hard is it to be respectful and learn the correct pronunciation? Jeez, this guy is NTA
Deidre is pronounced differently in some countries, same as Karen. Deedree/deedray, Karen, [Car]en
Load More Replies...Tell your daughter to NEVER respond to the incorrect name, and if the teacher asks why she is not responding or accuses her of not paying attention, then tell her because that is not her name. It's very effective and will correct the behavior quickly. Also, you should have and could have raised hell with the school admin for this s****y behavior. The teacher has been corrected multiple times and this sort of blatant disrespect is unacceptable. It's not a hard name to get right so she is 100% doing it on purpose.
Per the usual the YTA's are ridiculous. Keeley is not an unusual name. It is very easily pronounced.
"Teacher, I challenged your pronunciation of my daughter's name publicly, the same way you chose to humiliate her. If you can't handle that, imagine how my daughter feels. Now, let's be very clear about this; you will publicly apologize to Keeley, in front of the other students. You will turn this into a teachable moment about respect and communication. Or I will see you in court. Your call."
For those who posted yta, how would this be any different than if someone from another country with an unusual names is the person being called a different name, should they be expected to change their name to something the teacher decides would be easier to say? It's obvious the person who is acting as a teacher is anything but and shouldn't be interacting with others if she can be respectful.
My name is Moya. I’ve been called everything beginning with M- Moira, Myra, Myrtle on one occasion. I’ve learned the best way is to pretend to ignore them. If they question it, I tell them I didn’t think they were talking to me. Pretty hard for a little kid though.
My name is Moira and I get called Mariah all the time. It doesn't really bother me anymore (I love my name) but when I meet new people I usually just tell them to call me 'Mo'.
Load More Replies...I wonder what that teacher would do if there was a hispanic student in her class with the name "Jesús".
I always told my students on the first day of class "If mispronounce your name or call you by the wrong nickname, just correct me. If I keep on getting your name wrong, don't say to yourself "I'm just nothing and no one to him.' Instead, say to yourself 'He's old and stupid' and keep correcting me." Worked like a charm.
“Keeley is NOT an unusual name! I know 3 women and a little girl by that name. And is the teacher learning impaired??? By the third time she knows the name. Weird flex and why is the vice principal condoning this behavior? I would find a nuclear option, good luck to them.
Any one else immediately think of the Key and Peele substitute teacher skit? Lol? A-Aron? Dee-Nice? :D
My surname is a homophone of a common word, but you wouldn't necessarily know from the spelling. If I correct people and they say it back to me, they often get it wrong, because, being Scottish, I can't say it properly - the vowel isn't in my sound system. In some contexts it seems a stúpid name, and I always ask to be addressed by my first name.
Over the last few years we had training at my college to call people by their preferred name and to take care to pronounce their name correctly. Of course, this would now be viewed as extremist liberal DEI policy, but I will continue to do my best to get it right for my students
OMG for the ones saying the parent is TA, really? If they can't tell the difference between Kelly and Keely, they are just as dumb as this teacher. These idiots need to go back to school and learn how to spell and to pronounce correctly and the teacher should be fired just for being this petty and dumb.
Teacher is doing it on purpose. Sheesh. Look at her name. Keeley. Anyone with half a brain would know not to pronounce this as Kelly. I looked at it and said it right the first time. People have mispronounced my name several times, even though it's easy enough to say. They also spell it wrong. I had a sixth grade teacher say and spell my name wrong. She wrote it on the blackboard and I went up and erased the second "a" she put in my name.
My name is Dove, in school the teachers would call me Dave, I was called into the principals office for so many absences, I explained I would not answer to Dave as it was not my name. The principal issued a notice to all the teachers what my name was. I understand both the child's and parents frustration.
way back when i was in high school our spanish teacher would only address you by your spanish name ( think juan = john etc ) well my name doesnt translate to spanish theresa is as close as he could get and i just refused to answer
We had French names in French class, there were two Elizabeths, one was given the name Elise. I daresay if any of us had complained he'd have used our given names, but we all thought it was rather fun. Though he had a hard time finding equivalents for some of the siSwati names.
Load More Replies...I'm more likely to remember the "uncommon" names quicker than the common ones. I have a patron I've probably seen only a handful of times over the years but I immediately recognize him because his name is so unique. He's thrilled every time I greet him.
I respect educators, but they're not all good. Some are even horrible people. It sounds like this is one of the horrible ones. Maybe that name is less common, but it's also a family name, so in that family, they might not have even realized that it would be a problem. I've always called my grandmothers "Grandmomma", and it wasn't until I was older and started buying my own greeting cards that I realized that almost nobody else uses that term. My mom came up with it. Sometimes, you just don't realize.
Even if someone's never seen the name Keeley before, it's not hard to pronounced 'ee' as a hard E
Teacher here... he absolutely should have done that. He should have done it earlier. That teacher is 100% wrong. Learn the kid's name. I don't care how complicated or unusual it is. It's that kid's name and anything else is disrespectful.
Dorothy Jacqueline Keely, professionally known as Keely Smith, was an American jazz and popular music singer, who performed and recorded extensively in the 1950s with then-husband Louis Prima, and throughout the 1960s as a solo artist. Smith married Prima in 1953,
If this is US based you may soon be able to take legal action because it's not the kids legal name.
What legal action? If I decide to call you Johnny, how is that not a first amendment protected right? I'd love to hear this.
Load More Replies...Everyone deserves the dignity of having their name pronounced correctly. The only exception is for accents (my French Canadian grandparents couldn't pronounce "TH" so names like Ethan came out like Eeten).
I have people spell my name wrong. I am called Jill, not Gill. My name is not short for Gillian either.i got to the stage where I wouldn’t answer those who called me the wrong name!
The YTA voters are idiots. They didn't name her Keeley just to be unique. It's a FAMILY NAME. One that has been in their family for a long time.
Maybe the teacher should listen to the child and read emails then they wouldn't have been embarrassed.
also, fact check for the morons claiming OP is a*****e and/or neglectful because of the child's name: it's literally no different than if a child's name was "Jon" instead of "John" and the teacher had continuously and intentionally pronounced it as "Joan." It's just a p***k being a p***k.
let's not mince facts: adults are bullies too, and FAR more educated at being so than children because they've had more practice. I had a very good friend in high school named Jack Bonner; once, at a pep rally, the teacher doing roll call kept yelling "b***r" and then chastised him in front of everybody for refusing to respond, at which point Jack, reasonably enough by estimation, stood up red-faced and shouted "It's f***ing BONNER, you stupid b****, are you stupid or just g-d IGNORANT?!" And yeah don't try telling me it's an "easy misunderstanding;" there are CLEARLY two Ns, and it's your job as an educator to pay tf attention.
For all of those "YTA" a******s... Keeley is an common Irish name. I can imagine a child of Swedish heratige named Bjorn having the teacher callinig them "Beejoron" instead of "Be-yorn." To the YTAs... if your name is Jack, I'd call you Jay-ack! Hope ya like it! Kay-ren and Kat-ty.
Honestly, this is a simple case of bullying. You contact the school superintendent and suggest that they either address the teacher's continuing bullying behavior or you will be filing charges. Bullies come in all shapes and sizes, and there are a lot of teachers who are bullies. I had one who told me flat out that she didn't care how good my work was, she was going to fail me. Fortunately I was able to get transferred out of that class, but the slights I received from teachers over 50 years ago still affect me today.
Keelee isn't that unusual. Also if the child has corrected the teacher on multiple occasions and the teacher isn't doing it, this is Deliberate. I had a teacher like that. I got so stressed I started pulling the skin on my feet until they would bleed. The parent was right and the teacher As well as the schools handling of the continuing situation, was completely wrong.
This is where you show them what it's like. Tell your daughter to keep mispronouncing that teachers name. Let's say it's Ms Smith: pronounce it as "smooth" or "sniff". At parent / teacher meetings, you should do the same.
Anyone whose job it is to TEACH should not have an issue with LEARNING something new or different. The proper response would have been to turn this into a teachable moment for the class; "I'm very sorry, you're right. Thank you for correcting me! Now, you see class, this is proof that everyone makes mistakes, and it's OK, as long as you recognize those mistakes and fix them." If you humiliate me publicly (which the teacher was doing by disrespecting the girls' name) you deserve to be humiliated publicly in return. I would tell my kid to start intentionally mispronouncing the teacher's name, and then when the inevitable conference happened, I would mispronounce the vice-principal or principal's name, just to prove the point. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. 100% NTA.
This teacher was disrespectful on purpose. IF you want a good laugh at teacher mispronouncing names look up Key and Peele - Mr Garvey
"Aw, I'm sorry, teacher, your short-term memory is shot! Should *all* of the student wear name tags with the *correct* pronunciations of their names from now on?"
My bestie's name is pronounced Shell-sea; her boss for the last 3 years still insists on pronouncing it "Chelsea". IT'S NOT THAT HARD. It's 100% a power move to throw people off by purposefully mispronouncing their names.
I have a name that I love that folks mispronounce all the time. I got upset when it happened every single day for the school year from my PE teacher. I corrected her all the time and it never made a difference. I’m glad that the OP stood up for his daughter. NTA
OMG So not the AH. The AH is the teacher. What an utter jerk. There is nothing more personal than your name. There was no need for any meeting either. Just a bunch of bs gaslighting. The VP is also an AH. This teacher needs a written warning in her file. If she keeps it up, fire her.
It sounds like maybe the teacher doesn't like her name and was doing it on purpose to punish her for it. She kept telling the old bat that her name is Keeley and NOT Kelly. If she won't say it right after being told several times then she deserves to be told to say it right. My kids went to school with some kids with kids whose names were hard to pronounce or were spelled completely different than how the parents say them but the teachers ALWAYS said them right!
The proper response in this situation (whether in school, work, church or anywhere else) is to simply refuse to respond unless the correct name is used.
The teacher is absolutely doing it on purpose. I teach. Whenever I hear of a student addressed by a nickname, as in a shortened name, I'll do that, too, as I want them to feel comfortable in a learning environment and that I respect them as individuals. I have a very simple name, and people still butcher it, and it's annoying. If the same person did it over and over, we would probably have a problem.
the teacher mispronounced the name in class, so "in public", multiple times despite all quiet corrections and even the parent's email calling it out. Teacher was refusing to pronounce that name correctly, and the parent should have emailed a complaint to the principal with copy to the school board about the teacher harassing their daughter by deliberately mispronouncing the child's name in class. Teacher had no right to demand privacy for correcting her public misconduct.
Given all the Tragedighes we’ve had with spelling in the past the name Keeley isn’t even remotely in that category. The YTAs can suck it.
A person's name is the is very important! I learned in the USMC that if a person spells their name Prsybycz (his actual last name) but pronounces it 'Smith' then it is Smith (his name is actually pronounced Prizbiz - well, that is the closest I can get). Do not screw with someone's name. No matter how funny you think your pun on their name is - they heard it a million times so just don't
My name is pronounced eye-lee-ah. A teacher put me next to a dude named Eli (ee-lie) and kept calling us both Eli. So not only was he mispronouncing my name, but also deliberately misgendering me. So I just stopped responding until he got on my case for not responding. I told him "My name is Ilia, not Eli." and refused to say anything else until he called me by my name. It is absolutely important to correct a teacher who refuses to call you by your actual name.
To anyone who said "YTA", well, YTA. This parent is NTA in any shape or form. Teachers and staff at a school should be 1000% respectful of their students' names.
Teacher is a controlling b I t c h. Deliberately mispronouncing the name because she doesn't like it.
My name was Wesley, which sounds like WESS LEE. From kindergarten to 12th grade, my teachers called me various versions of WeZ-lee to WesT-lee. No matter how many times I tried to correct them, it never worked.
I say this as someone who changed the spelling of my name to encourage people to pronounce it the way I wanted it - you are being too nitpicky when you make a distinction between WES lee and WEZ lee. That minor Z sound is going to happen when MOST people are speaking quickly and they aren’t even going to hear the difference. You can’t correct a distinction you can’t even hear.
Load More Replies...Oh BunnyGirlSD: "YTA for giving her a name she is going to have to correct people about her whole life?" Oh the drama. Not everyone is a doormat. Some people learn how to stand up for themselves and not put up with morons who can't be bothered to learn how to address another human being correctly in a social situation. Keeley is not that unusual or hard to pronounce. She's been given a free litmus test for the people she will meet in life. When someone mispronounces her name, she can mentally label them as an a*****e and avoid them.
Here’s what you need to say at the meeting “Keely’s wellbeing is my number one priority and that was being impacted by her name being mispronounced even after it was corrected by both of us on several occasions. Since I’m sure there won’t be a repetition of this problem, it won’t be necessary for me to speak up in class again, will I? And no need for you to apologize to me for mispronouncing Keely’s name, you can just apologize to her directly “
Socrates was m******d by his peers for "corruption of youth." His crime? Teaching his students to question authority.
Lol that's a guy who got the point across a little too well. "Teach said to question authority, but isn't he the authority? Alrighty then"
Load More Replies...Is there a possibility that the teacher can't say the girl's name right? My son's name is Tristin, many people actually can not pronounce it right. They call him Tristian. :)
If you can’t make an Ee sound I question your ability to effectively communicate.
Load More Replies...to be fair, you did name your kid a non-name that sounds very similar to a real and common name. you brought this on your kid, and it won't be the first time.
Kids can change the name their parents gave them. Unfortunately, you can't change the stupid your parents gave to you.
Load More Replies...It’s not pronounced kil-lee; where did you even get that?
Load More Replies...Seriously? How difficult is it to pronounce the name Keeley? The teacher was being an egotistical àsshole. As the parent, I would have told Keeley not to respond to any name but her own. Any retaliatory action, and I involve the school district, state Board of Education, and a lawyer.
Load More Replies..."They needs to learn.."? You also missed a comma after 'India'.
Load More Replies...Oh, that teacher is doing it on purpose, no misunderstanding there. And it‘s not as if the name sounds like a swear word or something. This is bullying by the teacher.
Keeley isn't even a strange name! It's not common, sure, but if you can't pronounce keeley you have no business being a teacher
Load More Replies...How TF is Keeley a strange name? I would start calling the teacher by a wrong name and wait for the penny to drop...
I have had this problem my entire life. But usually people are apologetic when they realize they’ve been saying my name incorrectly. So this teacher is definitely an AH.
Does the teacher really think the kids consider her an authority when she can't even pronounce Keely?
When I saw Keely I heard it in my head as Kee-lee. Maybe that's just me. Teacher was being a b***h. Find out the teacher's first name, mis-pronounce it, and see how she likes it. YTAs are, as usual, delulu.
I read it as keel-e so I could see how it would be mistaken at first, but when being corrected the teacher should have used the right name. I'm a teacher and with the way some of these kids names are spelled i butcher them the first day of school doing attendance but I always write a pronunciation next to their name when they correct me so I can learn the right one.
Load More Replies...I don't know where the poster is from, but i can assure you that Keeley is NOT considered a "non-traditional name" here in the UK, or in Ireland, where it originates (spelt as Caoilidh or Caollaidhe). It is reasonably common for girls to be called Keeley, particularly in the North of England.
Keely is not an unusual name, and even if it was, why should that matter?
It’s so annoying when the YTA folks in AITA answer a different question. The question wasn’t whether they should have given their child a different name.
And the name is not to blame, smh. The TEACHER is.
Load More Replies...My name is Deirdre and believe me, I am so happy when someone says it correctly. How hard is it to be respectful and learn the correct pronunciation? Jeez, this guy is NTA
Deidre is pronounced differently in some countries, same as Karen. Deedree/deedray, Karen, [Car]en
Load More Replies...Tell your daughter to NEVER respond to the incorrect name, and if the teacher asks why she is not responding or accuses her of not paying attention, then tell her because that is not her name. It's very effective and will correct the behavior quickly. Also, you should have and could have raised hell with the school admin for this s****y behavior. The teacher has been corrected multiple times and this sort of blatant disrespect is unacceptable. It's not a hard name to get right so she is 100% doing it on purpose.
Per the usual the YTA's are ridiculous. Keeley is not an unusual name. It is very easily pronounced.
"Teacher, I challenged your pronunciation of my daughter's name publicly, the same way you chose to humiliate her. If you can't handle that, imagine how my daughter feels. Now, let's be very clear about this; you will publicly apologize to Keeley, in front of the other students. You will turn this into a teachable moment about respect and communication. Or I will see you in court. Your call."
For those who posted yta, how would this be any different than if someone from another country with an unusual names is the person being called a different name, should they be expected to change their name to something the teacher decides would be easier to say? It's obvious the person who is acting as a teacher is anything but and shouldn't be interacting with others if she can be respectful.
My name is Moya. I’ve been called everything beginning with M- Moira, Myra, Myrtle on one occasion. I’ve learned the best way is to pretend to ignore them. If they question it, I tell them I didn’t think they were talking to me. Pretty hard for a little kid though.
My name is Moira and I get called Mariah all the time. It doesn't really bother me anymore (I love my name) but when I meet new people I usually just tell them to call me 'Mo'.
Load More Replies...I wonder what that teacher would do if there was a hispanic student in her class with the name "Jesús".
I always told my students on the first day of class "If mispronounce your name or call you by the wrong nickname, just correct me. If I keep on getting your name wrong, don't say to yourself "I'm just nothing and no one to him.' Instead, say to yourself 'He's old and stupid' and keep correcting me." Worked like a charm.
“Keeley is NOT an unusual name! I know 3 women and a little girl by that name. And is the teacher learning impaired??? By the third time she knows the name. Weird flex and why is the vice principal condoning this behavior? I would find a nuclear option, good luck to them.
Any one else immediately think of the Key and Peele substitute teacher skit? Lol? A-Aron? Dee-Nice? :D
My surname is a homophone of a common word, but you wouldn't necessarily know from the spelling. If I correct people and they say it back to me, they often get it wrong, because, being Scottish, I can't say it properly - the vowel isn't in my sound system. In some contexts it seems a stúpid name, and I always ask to be addressed by my first name.
Over the last few years we had training at my college to call people by their preferred name and to take care to pronounce their name correctly. Of course, this would now be viewed as extremist liberal DEI policy, but I will continue to do my best to get it right for my students
OMG for the ones saying the parent is TA, really? If they can't tell the difference between Kelly and Keely, they are just as dumb as this teacher. These idiots need to go back to school and learn how to spell and to pronounce correctly and the teacher should be fired just for being this petty and dumb.
Teacher is doing it on purpose. Sheesh. Look at her name. Keeley. Anyone with half a brain would know not to pronounce this as Kelly. I looked at it and said it right the first time. People have mispronounced my name several times, even though it's easy enough to say. They also spell it wrong. I had a sixth grade teacher say and spell my name wrong. She wrote it on the blackboard and I went up and erased the second "a" she put in my name.
My name is Dove, in school the teachers would call me Dave, I was called into the principals office for so many absences, I explained I would not answer to Dave as it was not my name. The principal issued a notice to all the teachers what my name was. I understand both the child's and parents frustration.
way back when i was in high school our spanish teacher would only address you by your spanish name ( think juan = john etc ) well my name doesnt translate to spanish theresa is as close as he could get and i just refused to answer
We had French names in French class, there were two Elizabeths, one was given the name Elise. I daresay if any of us had complained he'd have used our given names, but we all thought it was rather fun. Though he had a hard time finding equivalents for some of the siSwati names.
Load More Replies...I'm more likely to remember the "uncommon" names quicker than the common ones. I have a patron I've probably seen only a handful of times over the years but I immediately recognize him because his name is so unique. He's thrilled every time I greet him.
I respect educators, but they're not all good. Some are even horrible people. It sounds like this is one of the horrible ones. Maybe that name is less common, but it's also a family name, so in that family, they might not have even realized that it would be a problem. I've always called my grandmothers "Grandmomma", and it wasn't until I was older and started buying my own greeting cards that I realized that almost nobody else uses that term. My mom came up with it. Sometimes, you just don't realize.
Even if someone's never seen the name Keeley before, it's not hard to pronounced 'ee' as a hard E
Teacher here... he absolutely should have done that. He should have done it earlier. That teacher is 100% wrong. Learn the kid's name. I don't care how complicated or unusual it is. It's that kid's name and anything else is disrespectful.
Dorothy Jacqueline Keely, professionally known as Keely Smith, was an American jazz and popular music singer, who performed and recorded extensively in the 1950s with then-husband Louis Prima, and throughout the 1960s as a solo artist. Smith married Prima in 1953,
If this is US based you may soon be able to take legal action because it's not the kids legal name.
What legal action? If I decide to call you Johnny, how is that not a first amendment protected right? I'd love to hear this.
Load More Replies...Everyone deserves the dignity of having their name pronounced correctly. The only exception is for accents (my French Canadian grandparents couldn't pronounce "TH" so names like Ethan came out like Eeten).
I have people spell my name wrong. I am called Jill, not Gill. My name is not short for Gillian either.i got to the stage where I wouldn’t answer those who called me the wrong name!
The YTA voters are idiots. They didn't name her Keeley just to be unique. It's a FAMILY NAME. One that has been in their family for a long time.
Maybe the teacher should listen to the child and read emails then they wouldn't have been embarrassed.
also, fact check for the morons claiming OP is a*****e and/or neglectful because of the child's name: it's literally no different than if a child's name was "Jon" instead of "John" and the teacher had continuously and intentionally pronounced it as "Joan." It's just a p***k being a p***k.
let's not mince facts: adults are bullies too, and FAR more educated at being so than children because they've had more practice. I had a very good friend in high school named Jack Bonner; once, at a pep rally, the teacher doing roll call kept yelling "b***r" and then chastised him in front of everybody for refusing to respond, at which point Jack, reasonably enough by estimation, stood up red-faced and shouted "It's f***ing BONNER, you stupid b****, are you stupid or just g-d IGNORANT?!" And yeah don't try telling me it's an "easy misunderstanding;" there are CLEARLY two Ns, and it's your job as an educator to pay tf attention.
For all of those "YTA" a******s... Keeley is an common Irish name. I can imagine a child of Swedish heratige named Bjorn having the teacher callinig them "Beejoron" instead of "Be-yorn." To the YTAs... if your name is Jack, I'd call you Jay-ack! Hope ya like it! Kay-ren and Kat-ty.
Honestly, this is a simple case of bullying. You contact the school superintendent and suggest that they either address the teacher's continuing bullying behavior or you will be filing charges. Bullies come in all shapes and sizes, and there are a lot of teachers who are bullies. I had one who told me flat out that she didn't care how good my work was, she was going to fail me. Fortunately I was able to get transferred out of that class, but the slights I received from teachers over 50 years ago still affect me today.
Keelee isn't that unusual. Also if the child has corrected the teacher on multiple occasions and the teacher isn't doing it, this is Deliberate. I had a teacher like that. I got so stressed I started pulling the skin on my feet until they would bleed. The parent was right and the teacher As well as the schools handling of the continuing situation, was completely wrong.
This is where you show them what it's like. Tell your daughter to keep mispronouncing that teachers name. Let's say it's Ms Smith: pronounce it as "smooth" or "sniff". At parent / teacher meetings, you should do the same.
Anyone whose job it is to TEACH should not have an issue with LEARNING something new or different. The proper response would have been to turn this into a teachable moment for the class; "I'm very sorry, you're right. Thank you for correcting me! Now, you see class, this is proof that everyone makes mistakes, and it's OK, as long as you recognize those mistakes and fix them." If you humiliate me publicly (which the teacher was doing by disrespecting the girls' name) you deserve to be humiliated publicly in return. I would tell my kid to start intentionally mispronouncing the teacher's name, and then when the inevitable conference happened, I would mispronounce the vice-principal or principal's name, just to prove the point. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. 100% NTA.
This teacher was disrespectful on purpose. IF you want a good laugh at teacher mispronouncing names look up Key and Peele - Mr Garvey
"Aw, I'm sorry, teacher, your short-term memory is shot! Should *all* of the student wear name tags with the *correct* pronunciations of their names from now on?"
My bestie's name is pronounced Shell-sea; her boss for the last 3 years still insists on pronouncing it "Chelsea". IT'S NOT THAT HARD. It's 100% a power move to throw people off by purposefully mispronouncing their names.
I have a name that I love that folks mispronounce all the time. I got upset when it happened every single day for the school year from my PE teacher. I corrected her all the time and it never made a difference. I’m glad that the OP stood up for his daughter. NTA
OMG So not the AH. The AH is the teacher. What an utter jerk. There is nothing more personal than your name. There was no need for any meeting either. Just a bunch of bs gaslighting. The VP is also an AH. This teacher needs a written warning in her file. If she keeps it up, fire her.
It sounds like maybe the teacher doesn't like her name and was doing it on purpose to punish her for it. She kept telling the old bat that her name is Keeley and NOT Kelly. If she won't say it right after being told several times then she deserves to be told to say it right. My kids went to school with some kids with kids whose names were hard to pronounce or were spelled completely different than how the parents say them but the teachers ALWAYS said them right!
The proper response in this situation (whether in school, work, church or anywhere else) is to simply refuse to respond unless the correct name is used.
The teacher is absolutely doing it on purpose. I teach. Whenever I hear of a student addressed by a nickname, as in a shortened name, I'll do that, too, as I want them to feel comfortable in a learning environment and that I respect them as individuals. I have a very simple name, and people still butcher it, and it's annoying. If the same person did it over and over, we would probably have a problem.
the teacher mispronounced the name in class, so "in public", multiple times despite all quiet corrections and even the parent's email calling it out. Teacher was refusing to pronounce that name correctly, and the parent should have emailed a complaint to the principal with copy to the school board about the teacher harassing their daughter by deliberately mispronouncing the child's name in class. Teacher had no right to demand privacy for correcting her public misconduct.
Given all the Tragedighes we’ve had with spelling in the past the name Keeley isn’t even remotely in that category. The YTAs can suck it.
A person's name is the is very important! I learned in the USMC that if a person spells their name Prsybycz (his actual last name) but pronounces it 'Smith' then it is Smith (his name is actually pronounced Prizbiz - well, that is the closest I can get). Do not screw with someone's name. No matter how funny you think your pun on their name is - they heard it a million times so just don't
My name is pronounced eye-lee-ah. A teacher put me next to a dude named Eli (ee-lie) and kept calling us both Eli. So not only was he mispronouncing my name, but also deliberately misgendering me. So I just stopped responding until he got on my case for not responding. I told him "My name is Ilia, not Eli." and refused to say anything else until he called me by my name. It is absolutely important to correct a teacher who refuses to call you by your actual name.
To anyone who said "YTA", well, YTA. This parent is NTA in any shape or form. Teachers and staff at a school should be 1000% respectful of their students' names.
Teacher is a controlling b I t c h. Deliberately mispronouncing the name because she doesn't like it.
My name was Wesley, which sounds like WESS LEE. From kindergarten to 12th grade, my teachers called me various versions of WeZ-lee to WesT-lee. No matter how many times I tried to correct them, it never worked.
I say this as someone who changed the spelling of my name to encourage people to pronounce it the way I wanted it - you are being too nitpicky when you make a distinction between WES lee and WEZ lee. That minor Z sound is going to happen when MOST people are speaking quickly and they aren’t even going to hear the difference. You can’t correct a distinction you can’t even hear.
Load More Replies...Oh BunnyGirlSD: "YTA for giving her a name she is going to have to correct people about her whole life?" Oh the drama. Not everyone is a doormat. Some people learn how to stand up for themselves and not put up with morons who can't be bothered to learn how to address another human being correctly in a social situation. Keeley is not that unusual or hard to pronounce. She's been given a free litmus test for the people she will meet in life. When someone mispronounces her name, she can mentally label them as an a*****e and avoid them.
Here’s what you need to say at the meeting “Keely’s wellbeing is my number one priority and that was being impacted by her name being mispronounced even after it was corrected by both of us on several occasions. Since I’m sure there won’t be a repetition of this problem, it won’t be necessary for me to speak up in class again, will I? And no need for you to apologize to me for mispronouncing Keely’s name, you can just apologize to her directly “
Socrates was m******d by his peers for "corruption of youth." His crime? Teaching his students to question authority.
Lol that's a guy who got the point across a little too well. "Teach said to question authority, but isn't he the authority? Alrighty then"
Load More Replies...Is there a possibility that the teacher can't say the girl's name right? My son's name is Tristin, many people actually can not pronounce it right. They call him Tristian. :)
If you can’t make an Ee sound I question your ability to effectively communicate.
Load More Replies...to be fair, you did name your kid a non-name that sounds very similar to a real and common name. you brought this on your kid, and it won't be the first time.
Kids can change the name their parents gave them. Unfortunately, you can't change the stupid your parents gave to you.
Load More Replies...It’s not pronounced kil-lee; where did you even get that?
Load More Replies...Seriously? How difficult is it to pronounce the name Keeley? The teacher was being an egotistical àsshole. As the parent, I would have told Keeley not to respond to any name but her own. Any retaliatory action, and I involve the school district, state Board of Education, and a lawyer.
Load More Replies..."They needs to learn.."? You also missed a comma after 'India'.
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