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Woman Bears Kids Next Door Screaming For Two Years, Ruins Their Day By Screaming That Santa Died
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Woman Bears Kids Next Door Screaming For Two Years, Ruins Their Day By Screaming That Santa Died

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Sooner or later, kids grow up and learn (and by proxy, deal with the fact) that Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny (among many, many others) are more or less figments of our, the adult, imagination.

How you go about telling them about this figment is more or less clear. But sometimes people are people and we can resort to morally gray solutions all because someone had to be taught a lesson after 2 years of devil kids screaming their lungs out all because they were never told to use their inside voices.

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Not everyone has the luxury of choosing their neighbors, but it by no means means that they can’t do anything about them

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One constantly noisy neighbor who babysits a lot was recently schooled on how to do it properly with the help of ol’ Saint Nick

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Well, Santa himself did not make an appearance, and even if he would have, that would’ve been morbid, but it did stop all the kids from screaming

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The story goes that Redditor u/NibblesMcGiblet lives in an old 1800s house that’s as authentic as it can be, including “acoustic insulation”. It just so happens that she has neighbors who babysit quite often. It also just so happens that the kids they babysit have the vocal aptitude of a flock of harpies zeroing in on their prey.

What is worse is that, one, the kids’ loudness is empowered by the supposed “cool uncle” neighbor who spends much of the time babysitting the kids and, two, you might guess just how thin the walls are in that Georgian-era house.

Now, we get it, the kids are having loads of fun, and the neighbor is excited along with them. It’s all positive and fun. However, you’d expect some degree of restraint and respect to be exercised, right? OP had the unfortunate honor of having to bear the screams for two years at this point.

Until now.

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In her interview with Bored Panda, OP explained that it wasn’t supposed to be petty revenge in the first place. “I wasn’t even trying to GET revenge. It was a spur of the moment thing that I simply blurted out quickly and that was that.”

You see, OP pretended to be on the phone. Loudly. Loud enough for the screaming to quiet down for a bit in anticipation of what OP would say next in her fauxn call. “HELLO? YES THAT’S ME. WHAT? NO!NO!NO!” [silence] “OH MY GOD SANTA IS DEAD? WHAT HAPPENED??”

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“I didn’t pre-plan this. Santa is what came out of my mouth. Not ‘Santa Claus,’ just Santa. I suppose, in retrospect, if they even did hear me, for all they know Santa could be the name of my pet dog or something.”

Within a matter of seconds, OP hears a pitter-patter of little feet skedaddling out of the premises. Quite likely as they were instructed on it by the “cool uncle” so that OP wouldn’t say something more outrageous, like the Easter Bunny being in cahoots with the Tooth Fairy and having a monopolistic cartel in the chicken farming and dentistry industries.

Surprisingly, that was enough to keep the noise levels at an absolute minimum.

“We see one another occasionally in the hallway. They say hi, I say hi, that’s the end of it. There has been zero indication they necessarily even heard me other than the fact that they got quiet when I yelled ‘No, No!’ and then left shortly thereafter. It’s entirely possible they simply heard the sound of me being home, realized the kids were being loud and that I was home rather than at work that particular day, and opted to take the kids out rather than bother me. No way of knowing.”

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Now, it is important to note that OP did not intend for any of this to be malicious—if anything, educational, teaching the importance of context and consequences. The way the babysitting was done was interactive and engaging, sure, but even that can be done with respect to your neighbors, right? All it needed was some guidance on the part of the neighbors.

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As to why not confront the neighbors about it? Let’s just say they aren’t the easiest to interact with on account of them partaking in activities some might deem illegal.

While there were people who found OP’s approach morally questionable, most indulged in the fact that it was petty revenge in its purest form and praised the woman.

Because this is Reddit, of course folks wanted to be more mischievous than that and started suggesting how to one-up the idea with more carnage. Should the noise return, there’s always the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny. Oh, and Zombie Santa.

The other ramp-up is that Santa might have passed away from the cookies these kids left for him last Christmas. I swear, someone’s out to get him. OP has nothing against Santa, for he has lists for good and bad kids and he trolls bad kids for being naughty. A just concept.

All in all, nearly 3,000 upvotes (89% positive) and over 10 Reddit awards later, the post went viral. You can check it all out in context here.

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Speaking of context, the whole idea about telling kids Santa’s not real is a pretty natural process. Natural in the sense that a lot of parents and kids go through it and it’s beneficial practice for both parents and kids to deal with it all together, all the while strengthening their bond as family.

At about eight, kids naturally start questioning the whole idea of Santa, and this is honestly the best time to broach the topic. This is where you, as a parent, swoop in and ask the kid how they feel about it. Take their lead on the conversation and make sure conditions are perfect for the child to be able to accept the breaking news.

Be honest. Validate their feelings. Let them channel their emotions. Make up a plan on how the Christmas tradition will now be approached, and maybe they would like to take on Santa’s role as the gift giver?

It is key to drive the conversation towards a direction that will not make the kid think Christmas has lost its magic. You could go about it saying Santa represents the spirit of Christmas, and the way you can help keep it up is by practicing generosity and kindness. And that’s perfectly encapsulated in the idea of gift giving.

So, how did you learn that Santa’s not real? Wait… he’s not… real…? My goodness… Um. So, what are your thoughts on any of this? [sigh] Let us know in the comment section below! [leaves]

Folks online, while slightly considering the moral grayness of it all, were all in all entertained by OP’s non-traditional approach to silence

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Monday
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did OP ever tell the neighbours the kids were annoying her? Hard to judge what other people can and can't hear through walls if nobody talks to each other.

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Noltha
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She didn't answer, when asked (see above). Also, was that really a revenge? Maybe the neighbours are now happy that they don't have to deal with screaming kids anymore? ;)

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StrangeOne
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did it ever come to her mind that she could just knock on their door and tell them how loud they're being? Obviously by then end of this the neighbours got the point quickly and without further issue. The whole having to hear the kids could have ended years earlier.

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DotC
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don’t get why she waited either but people that say you should go ask your neighbors have never done it in an apartment or even a detached house. NOBODY takes criticism well. They ignore you. They retaliate. They talk sh!t to other neighbors. They get violent. They think you wanting to sleep between 10pm and 6am on a week night is an insult to them. They think you not wanting rocks thrown at your car is your problem. They’re defensive about it because they know they’re wrong and inconsiderate.

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supertall
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Punishing the kids because the neighbours suck is kind of uncool...

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amy hipps
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Got them to shut up. Plus not every one likes children. Sorry to break the news to you.

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StrangeOne
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She called her neighbours "cokeheads". If she knows they're into hard, illegal drugs why isn't she doing something to prevent them being allowed to watch kids?! The more I'm reading into the responses, the more holes get added.

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John
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Think about this hard: First of all, While i'm not condoning her actions, Should we not consider That we are actually Setting the example of lying when we tell our children that there's a santa claus to begin with?

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Jennifer Checki
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There have actually been studies done on this, because it’s a very legitimate question. Generally, they have found that it is dishonest, and dishonesty is obviously not ideal, but it’s not a big deal in this case. Most of us grew up being told the Santa lie, and I doubt many of us would say we ever thought of it as a sign our parents were generally mendacious.

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madbakes
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope you would have tried to one conversation with the neighbor first.

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Amy Brazier
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I lived in a "3-plex" home a few years ago. Same thing, the walls were thin. The family nextdoor would invite extended family over to party into the early morning hours. My husband and I both worked from home and had the east coast shift which started at 6am where we lived. I'd talked with them a couple times but to no avail. I inherited a player piano so whenever the party went anytime after 2am, I'd get out of bed and go into the living room and "play" the piano...LOUDLY on our share wall. They knew it was time to send people home.

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Spalding Monn
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ignore all of the negative Nancies. This is YOUR house. You live there too. The children's conduct was inappropriate and not representative of typical children's behaviour I.e. children who are under the supervision of a contracted person, even in their own home, don't behave like this. Desperate situations call for something like this. NTJ. I will miss him.

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Khandnalie E
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Santa is dead. Santa remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was jolliest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our sharpened candy canes: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become elves simply to appear worthy of it?

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Kiara Kat
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9 months ago

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Wow. Drama much? Take a chill pill. We’re talking about Santa here, not blood and murder. Get over yourself.

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Bina Wei
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know some people are more full of life and therefore might be more excitable but age doesn't always have everything to do with it.

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Nykky
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's a hero to the kitty, I consider her a great person in this scenario. Besides, all kids find out sooner or later that Santa doesn't real, so it's whatever

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Robin Wemmenlöv
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Doesn't matter if she asked her neighbours to show respect or not, probably they wouldn't show her any. Kind of given by the fact they didn't care for two years. She did the right thing.

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Janet Howe
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why did OP put up with this for 2 years? Didn't she ever talk to the neighbors about the noise? That would have been the first step. My mother once said to my little brother "if you're not good you'll get coal in your stocking". To which my brother replied "what's coal?" I find it hard to believe, that after all of these screaming kids overheard that Santa was dead, there wasn't more screaming. Louder. I wonder what everybody was thinking to suddenly scramble from that apartment. Maybe the quiet that OP noticed after that was simply the fact that the neighbors suddenly realized everyone else could hear what THEY were saying and doing. We'll never know.

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Channo Sagara
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm just surprised the "stupid neighbor" can somehow connected "santa died" and "be quiet". I have loud neighbor as well, called the cops on them, THREE TIMES. My other neighbors who are pissed as well complained about them to the neighborhood association, nope, they never get the memo. As soon as to cop leaves, they start partying again. At this moment i have abandoned all hopes and simply pray that God will deliver my vengeance.

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John Smith (he/him/xy/️)
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are specific playlists on Spotify that induce panic and anxiety. Just throwing a random fact out there

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Sunny Day
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They don't mention talking to the neighbors about the noise. Is it possible that until they deliberately raised their voice "on the phone" that the neighbors didn't know how thin the walls are?

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DotC
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They don’t care. I don’t get why she waited either but people that say you should go ask your neighbors have never done it in an apartment or even a detached house. NOBODY takes criticism well. They ignore you. They retaliate. They talk sh!t to other neighbors. They get violent. They think you wanting to sleep between 10pm and 6am on a week night is an insult to them. They think you not wanting rocks thrown at your car is your problem. They’re defensive about it because they know they’re wrong and inconsiderate.

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Madre_Dr4gnZFly
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, I've raised 3 kids(one was quiet!), lived in apartments with noisy kids up over us, next to us, etc. Some kids are just loud, some adults don't care, etc. BUT OP's response was EPIC.

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Kathy Kennedy
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would imagine that part of the reason ' Santa is dead' worked such a pip is because the neighbors have known for a very long time already that they were being too much at those times, they just never thought there'd be such a pointed comeuppance

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Giobemo
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it hard to believe this had the massive effect she's claiming it did. Seriously, they stopped babysitting (or being asked to babysit) because of it? If it IS true though, and they seriously went to great lengths to keep the kids away from OP and her fake phone calls, it sounds to me like they're actually very responsible and dedicated caregivers. And from their perspective, OP is definitely the crazy one who's threatening the well-being of the children. OP's edit about "leaving her house for her ex" and "choosing to live in the cheapest place possible" sounds like a whitewashing of "I used to live in my ex's house, but when we separated, I had to move out and I didn't have any money or prospects and this was all I could afford."

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Kevin Felton
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you're still lying to your kids about Santa, jesus, or the Easter Bunny don't be pissed someone sets the record straight for them 🤷‍♂️

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Dedra T
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To politely talk to the neighbors would have been a better approach. Your passive aggressive solution was actually quite MEAN and uncalled for! To just sit there and "endure" the noise for years and, I am willing to bet, whine about it to anyone who would listen other than who you should have mentioned it to is incredibly immature and pathetic. Next time instead of TRAUMATIZING small innocent CHILDREN try being an adult and just speaking to people! Geez and yes, I AM YELLING.

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️️Upvote faery️
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If a 30 year old MAN doesn't know how to keep his voice down, that's a problem. People SHOULD know that but the time they are 10! This woman is an assssshole for not talking to these people about the noise, for punishing the kids for her own ineptitude regarding how to talk to neighbours when there is a problem, and for thinking a 28-30 year old human is too young to understand when to be quiet, that part is just bad parenting.

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Erica
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It probably would have been better if she yelled the place was Haunted. The kiddos wouldn’t want to come back and they wouldn’t have to worry about Santa.

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Helen Taylor
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't believe you did that. With no soundproofing in an apartment you're going to hear your neighbors. If it was in the daytime and the kids were having fun, tough it.

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Amanda Brunty
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, but that's FUNNY AS F**K!!! Everyone is just goddamn sensitive about s**t anyway. Seriously, got a problem with me?? Come tell me to my face so I can punch it out lmao. And btw, I don't argue online because any coward can say a bunch of s**t online. Be a F*****G person, tell me my problem to my face, and I can either accept it, apologize, and move on...OR you can receive your a*s beating like a "man" and move on. I'd have done worse honestly

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Lemon_squeezy
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Amanda, why do you feel the need to act like a wannabe toxic man that thinks he's tough sh*t on the internet ? You're not "punching anyone out" lol. Stop the cap and go tend to your 10 dogs or something. And you'd "have done worse"? Sounds like someone needs to visit either a prison cell or a therapist. Bitter middle aged women are sad, I do hope you find peace !

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Rasheeda Pennybaker
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The whole Jesus thing whoever suggested it got issues and obviously op don't go to church because yes He was nailed to the cross but He rosed 3 days later the retards.

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Rasheeda Pennybaker
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They would hate my kids, my kids would have been like dude he been dead years ago my parents buys my gifts. The tooth fairy is not real nor the Easter Bunny. I'm just saying I teach my kids all of that. That santa Claus spirit is for us to give and never looking to receive. But we put in the Santa Claus effect all year round.

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Dennis Lenny
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone calls her out on her c**p, now they're "cokeheads." I didn't know we were praising Karens now. This is city life. You want peace and quiet, don't live in an apartment.

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Kiara Kat
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP is an a**. Punishing the children to get back at adults who don’t teach children how to behave? What? That’s just wrong. And mean to boot. I’m assuming she never approached the adults about the situation or complained to the landlord, because if she had, she would have said so. Talk about a self-centred and entitled biatch. She should be ashamed of herself.

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DotC
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She could have called the cops. She could have done MUCH worse MUCH earlier. She had been through a divorce. But if they don’t care how loud they are, they sure don’t think they’re doing anything wrong. Have you approached people when they’re being inconsiderate? I would love to hear that story. I’ve had a giant dude scream at me because his kid threw a waterballoon at my house and I had the nerve to say “please don’t do that”.

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Debs Bee
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children have enough cold reality to deal with these days. Let them enjoy a little magic in their innocent, young lives.

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Exotic Butters
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gosh! Too bad OP was unable to say"hey, can you keep the noise down? The kids are louder than you think". Much better to be a horrible person.

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Christina
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have special needs children and they are loud. My neighbor was always so sweet they were not diagnosed yet it was the toddler stages transitioning to prek when we found out. I ran into my neighbor and told her and said I always appreciated how she never complained and she said she knew something was up and she told me that God was always guiding her to show kindness and love and never any type of ill will. I will never forget that. I always felt so bad because living in condos you don't intend for that but when you have kids it can't be helped especially when you discover they have special needs and learn about meltdowns. She was the best neighbor and sweetest lady ever. Grateful she was who I lived around and not someone who would have been vindictive.

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Allie Wertz
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So she chose to ruin a bunch of children's childhoods because of lack of discipline from the adults in charge?? Why not just knock on the door and ask them to quiet down a little?? This isn't petty, this is completely f****d up..

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John Griffin
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Very much full of life…should know better” was accidentally revealing. She’s bitter and it hurts her to be aware of anyone else’s joy.

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Dave Turner
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think she should have went the dead Santa route. It's a bit cruel to kids. It's probably not their fault that their parents were not disciplining them. I can think of a lot of things to "talk loudly" through the walls that would get the same results with less damage. Oh, I can think of some REALLY good things that would have them running down the stairs to ask/tell their parents about! Good story overall though!

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DotC
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am being completely sincere. Has anyone ever asked you or your kids to be a little quieter? If so, how did you handle it? Because I have tried nice. I have tried pleading. I got ignored. I got yelled at. I got threatened. I’m not calling the cops but I would tell management.

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AngelWingsYT
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So....OP never bothered to go next door. Politely knock. And let them know the noise can be hear nextdoor at full volume and kindly ask they either lower the volume or go outside to burn off energy? They fact their first n only idea to "make it stop" was to bring kids to tears and feel JOY for it?! Thats just not right. Ik this isnt a "AITA" forum but YTA OP

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Lemon_squeezy
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Idk why you got down voted, you do have a point. Ik I'm gonna get downvoted for this, but I can't believe people are defending an actual Karen lmao. How can someone for TWO YEARS never try the calmer methods before trying something wild. If you can't try less dramatic ways to deescalate a situation BEFORE resorting to more harsh options, you have issues and are by definition a Karen. Notice how OP resorted to calling the neighbors "coke heads" as she was being defensive against a commenter? But never once mentioned if they were actually drug addicts in her story. I think she's just a bitter old woman embellishing for attention. Also, very strange to assume a man's age and the reason for his behavior just because her two grown a** sons act that way. There's probably a reason her ex dropped her and this "cheap apartment" was all she had left. Also, they all probably left the room because they never realized how thin the walls were this whole time... Because op never once mentioned it.

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Trish Panda
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pathetic. Maybe they didn't realize how loud they were. Also it's the day time and they are young children. Cranky bish. Passive aggressive b******t is nothing to be proud of

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Lemon_squeezy
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Downvote me if your petty heart desires, but I gotta say, This story reeks of A Karen and her embellishments, if you care to read the context clues as to why she's possibly lying. They all probably left the room because they never realized how thin the walls were this whole time... Because op never once brought it up to them like a normal, sane grown adult would have. It's amazing how we are congratulating Karen's now. :/

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Monday
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did OP ever tell the neighbours the kids were annoying her? Hard to judge what other people can and can't hear through walls if nobody talks to each other.

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Noltha
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She didn't answer, when asked (see above). Also, was that really a revenge? Maybe the neighbours are now happy that they don't have to deal with screaming kids anymore? ;)

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StrangeOne
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did it ever come to her mind that she could just knock on their door and tell them how loud they're being? Obviously by then end of this the neighbours got the point quickly and without further issue. The whole having to hear the kids could have ended years earlier.

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DotC
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don’t get why she waited either but people that say you should go ask your neighbors have never done it in an apartment or even a detached house. NOBODY takes criticism well. They ignore you. They retaliate. They talk sh!t to other neighbors. They get violent. They think you wanting to sleep between 10pm and 6am on a week night is an insult to them. They think you not wanting rocks thrown at your car is your problem. They’re defensive about it because they know they’re wrong and inconsiderate.

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supertall
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Punishing the kids because the neighbours suck is kind of uncool...

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amy hipps
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Got them to shut up. Plus not every one likes children. Sorry to break the news to you.

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StrangeOne
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She called her neighbours "cokeheads". If she knows they're into hard, illegal drugs why isn't she doing something to prevent them being allowed to watch kids?! The more I'm reading into the responses, the more holes get added.

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John
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Think about this hard: First of all, While i'm not condoning her actions, Should we not consider That we are actually Setting the example of lying when we tell our children that there's a santa claus to begin with?

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Jennifer Checki
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There have actually been studies done on this, because it’s a very legitimate question. Generally, they have found that it is dishonest, and dishonesty is obviously not ideal, but it’s not a big deal in this case. Most of us grew up being told the Santa lie, and I doubt many of us would say we ever thought of it as a sign our parents were generally mendacious.

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madbakes
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope you would have tried to one conversation with the neighbor first.

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Amy Brazier
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I lived in a "3-plex" home a few years ago. Same thing, the walls were thin. The family nextdoor would invite extended family over to party into the early morning hours. My husband and I both worked from home and had the east coast shift which started at 6am where we lived. I'd talked with them a couple times but to no avail. I inherited a player piano so whenever the party went anytime after 2am, I'd get out of bed and go into the living room and "play" the piano...LOUDLY on our share wall. They knew it was time to send people home.

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Spalding Monn
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ignore all of the negative Nancies. This is YOUR house. You live there too. The children's conduct was inappropriate and not representative of typical children's behaviour I.e. children who are under the supervision of a contracted person, even in their own home, don't behave like this. Desperate situations call for something like this. NTJ. I will miss him.

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Khandnalie E
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Santa is dead. Santa remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was jolliest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our sharpened candy canes: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become elves simply to appear worthy of it?

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Kiara Kat
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9 months ago

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Wow. Drama much? Take a chill pill. We’re talking about Santa here, not blood and murder. Get over yourself.

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Bina Wei
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know some people are more full of life and therefore might be more excitable but age doesn't always have everything to do with it.

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Nykky
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's a hero to the kitty, I consider her a great person in this scenario. Besides, all kids find out sooner or later that Santa doesn't real, so it's whatever

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Robin Wemmenlöv
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Doesn't matter if she asked her neighbours to show respect or not, probably they wouldn't show her any. Kind of given by the fact they didn't care for two years. She did the right thing.

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Janet Howe
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why did OP put up with this for 2 years? Didn't she ever talk to the neighbors about the noise? That would have been the first step. My mother once said to my little brother "if you're not good you'll get coal in your stocking". To which my brother replied "what's coal?" I find it hard to believe, that after all of these screaming kids overheard that Santa was dead, there wasn't more screaming. Louder. I wonder what everybody was thinking to suddenly scramble from that apartment. Maybe the quiet that OP noticed after that was simply the fact that the neighbors suddenly realized everyone else could hear what THEY were saying and doing. We'll never know.

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Channo Sagara
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm just surprised the "stupid neighbor" can somehow connected "santa died" and "be quiet". I have loud neighbor as well, called the cops on them, THREE TIMES. My other neighbors who are pissed as well complained about them to the neighborhood association, nope, they never get the memo. As soon as to cop leaves, they start partying again. At this moment i have abandoned all hopes and simply pray that God will deliver my vengeance.

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John Smith (he/him/xy/️)
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are specific playlists on Spotify that induce panic and anxiety. Just throwing a random fact out there

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Sunny Day
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They don't mention talking to the neighbors about the noise. Is it possible that until they deliberately raised their voice "on the phone" that the neighbors didn't know how thin the walls are?

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DotC
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They don’t care. I don’t get why she waited either but people that say you should go ask your neighbors have never done it in an apartment or even a detached house. NOBODY takes criticism well. They ignore you. They retaliate. They talk sh!t to other neighbors. They get violent. They think you wanting to sleep between 10pm and 6am on a week night is an insult to them. They think you not wanting rocks thrown at your car is your problem. They’re defensive about it because they know they’re wrong and inconsiderate.

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Madre_Dr4gnZFly
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, I've raised 3 kids(one was quiet!), lived in apartments with noisy kids up over us, next to us, etc. Some kids are just loud, some adults don't care, etc. BUT OP's response was EPIC.

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Kathy Kennedy
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would imagine that part of the reason ' Santa is dead' worked such a pip is because the neighbors have known for a very long time already that they were being too much at those times, they just never thought there'd be such a pointed comeuppance

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Giobemo
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it hard to believe this had the massive effect she's claiming it did. Seriously, they stopped babysitting (or being asked to babysit) because of it? If it IS true though, and they seriously went to great lengths to keep the kids away from OP and her fake phone calls, it sounds to me like they're actually very responsible and dedicated caregivers. And from their perspective, OP is definitely the crazy one who's threatening the well-being of the children. OP's edit about "leaving her house for her ex" and "choosing to live in the cheapest place possible" sounds like a whitewashing of "I used to live in my ex's house, but when we separated, I had to move out and I didn't have any money or prospects and this was all I could afford."

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Kevin Felton
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you're still lying to your kids about Santa, jesus, or the Easter Bunny don't be pissed someone sets the record straight for them 🤷‍♂️

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Dedra T
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To politely talk to the neighbors would have been a better approach. Your passive aggressive solution was actually quite MEAN and uncalled for! To just sit there and "endure" the noise for years and, I am willing to bet, whine about it to anyone who would listen other than who you should have mentioned it to is incredibly immature and pathetic. Next time instead of TRAUMATIZING small innocent CHILDREN try being an adult and just speaking to people! Geez and yes, I AM YELLING.

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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If a 30 year old MAN doesn't know how to keep his voice down, that's a problem. People SHOULD know that but the time they are 10! This woman is an assssshole for not talking to these people about the noise, for punishing the kids for her own ineptitude regarding how to talk to neighbours when there is a problem, and for thinking a 28-30 year old human is too young to understand when to be quiet, that part is just bad parenting.

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Erica
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It probably would have been better if she yelled the place was Haunted. The kiddos wouldn’t want to come back and they wouldn’t have to worry about Santa.

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Helen Taylor
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't believe you did that. With no soundproofing in an apartment you're going to hear your neighbors. If it was in the daytime and the kids were having fun, tough it.

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Amanda Brunty
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, but that's FUNNY AS F**K!!! Everyone is just goddamn sensitive about s**t anyway. Seriously, got a problem with me?? Come tell me to my face so I can punch it out lmao. And btw, I don't argue online because any coward can say a bunch of s**t online. Be a F*****G person, tell me my problem to my face, and I can either accept it, apologize, and move on...OR you can receive your a*s beating like a "man" and move on. I'd have done worse honestly

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Lemon_squeezy
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Amanda, why do you feel the need to act like a wannabe toxic man that thinks he's tough sh*t on the internet ? You're not "punching anyone out" lol. Stop the cap and go tend to your 10 dogs or something. And you'd "have done worse"? Sounds like someone needs to visit either a prison cell or a therapist. Bitter middle aged women are sad, I do hope you find peace !

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Rasheeda Pennybaker
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The whole Jesus thing whoever suggested it got issues and obviously op don't go to church because yes He was nailed to the cross but He rosed 3 days later the retards.

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Rasheeda Pennybaker
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They would hate my kids, my kids would have been like dude he been dead years ago my parents buys my gifts. The tooth fairy is not real nor the Easter Bunny. I'm just saying I teach my kids all of that. That santa Claus spirit is for us to give and never looking to receive. But we put in the Santa Claus effect all year round.

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Dennis Lenny
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone calls her out on her c**p, now they're "cokeheads." I didn't know we were praising Karens now. This is city life. You want peace and quiet, don't live in an apartment.

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Kiara Kat
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP is an a**. Punishing the children to get back at adults who don’t teach children how to behave? What? That’s just wrong. And mean to boot. I’m assuming she never approached the adults about the situation or complained to the landlord, because if she had, she would have said so. Talk about a self-centred and entitled biatch. She should be ashamed of herself.

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DotC
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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She could have called the cops. She could have done MUCH worse MUCH earlier. She had been through a divorce. But if they don’t care how loud they are, they sure don’t think they’re doing anything wrong. Have you approached people when they’re being inconsiderate? I would love to hear that story. I’ve had a giant dude scream at me because his kid threw a waterballoon at my house and I had the nerve to say “please don’t do that”.

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Debs Bee
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children have enough cold reality to deal with these days. Let them enjoy a little magic in their innocent, young lives.

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Exotic Butters
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gosh! Too bad OP was unable to say"hey, can you keep the noise down? The kids are louder than you think". Much better to be a horrible person.

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Christina
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have special needs children and they are loud. My neighbor was always so sweet they were not diagnosed yet it was the toddler stages transitioning to prek when we found out. I ran into my neighbor and told her and said I always appreciated how she never complained and she said she knew something was up and she told me that God was always guiding her to show kindness and love and never any type of ill will. I will never forget that. I always felt so bad because living in condos you don't intend for that but when you have kids it can't be helped especially when you discover they have special needs and learn about meltdowns. She was the best neighbor and sweetest lady ever. Grateful she was who I lived around and not someone who would have been vindictive.

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Allie Wertz
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So she chose to ruin a bunch of children's childhoods because of lack of discipline from the adults in charge?? Why not just knock on the door and ask them to quiet down a little?? This isn't petty, this is completely f****d up..

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John Griffin
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Very much full of life…should know better” was accidentally revealing. She’s bitter and it hurts her to be aware of anyone else’s joy.

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Dave Turner
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think she should have went the dead Santa route. It's a bit cruel to kids. It's probably not their fault that their parents were not disciplining them. I can think of a lot of things to "talk loudly" through the walls that would get the same results with less damage. Oh, I can think of some REALLY good things that would have them running down the stairs to ask/tell their parents about! Good story overall though!

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DotC
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am being completely sincere. Has anyone ever asked you or your kids to be a little quieter? If so, how did you handle it? Because I have tried nice. I have tried pleading. I got ignored. I got yelled at. I got threatened. I’m not calling the cops but I would tell management.

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AngelWingsYT
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So....OP never bothered to go next door. Politely knock. And let them know the noise can be hear nextdoor at full volume and kindly ask they either lower the volume or go outside to burn off energy? They fact their first n only idea to "make it stop" was to bring kids to tears and feel JOY for it?! Thats just not right. Ik this isnt a "AITA" forum but YTA OP

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Lemon_squeezy
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Idk why you got down voted, you do have a point. Ik I'm gonna get downvoted for this, but I can't believe people are defending an actual Karen lmao. How can someone for TWO YEARS never try the calmer methods before trying something wild. If you can't try less dramatic ways to deescalate a situation BEFORE resorting to more harsh options, you have issues and are by definition a Karen. Notice how OP resorted to calling the neighbors "coke heads" as she was being defensive against a commenter? But never once mentioned if they were actually drug addicts in her story. I think she's just a bitter old woman embellishing for attention. Also, very strange to assume a man's age and the reason for his behavior just because her two grown a** sons act that way. There's probably a reason her ex dropped her and this "cheap apartment" was all she had left. Also, they all probably left the room because they never realized how thin the walls were this whole time... Because op never once mentioned it.

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Trish Panda
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pathetic. Maybe they didn't realize how loud they were. Also it's the day time and they are young children. Cranky bish. Passive aggressive b******t is nothing to be proud of

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Lemon_squeezy
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Downvote me if your petty heart desires, but I gotta say, This story reeks of A Karen and her embellishments, if you care to read the context clues as to why she's possibly lying. They all probably left the room because they never realized how thin the walls were this whole time... Because op never once brought it up to them like a normal, sane grown adult would have. It's amazing how we are congratulating Karen's now. :/

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