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Woman Doesn’t Understand Why Men Run Away From Her, Friend Tells Her Harsh Truth
You know you’re about to step into dangerous territory when someone asks for your “honest opinion” and says they definitely “won’t get mad” because of what you tell them. That’s exactly what happened to Reddit user NorthernCanadaEh, who recently shared his uncomfortable experience on r/AITAH.
After being cornered by his friend, the man was asked to weigh in on a very sensitive topic: a chest tattoo that immortalizes her former fiancé. What followed was a vivid Titanic analogy and a raw conversation that ended in tears.
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Can post-trauma tattoos help people heal?
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Tattoos are common. 32% of adults in the US have at least one, including 22% who have more.
Once associated with marginalized, oppressed, victimized, or transient social groups, tattoos have become part of mainstream culture.
And while the reasons for inking your skin are as varied as the people who do it, the ‘aftermath of trauma’ tattoo has been observed as a trend.
Suzanne B. Phillips, Psy.D., ABPP, is a licensed psychologist and an adjunct professor in the Doctoral Program of Long Island University and on the faculty of the Post-Doctoral Programs of the Derner Institute of Adelphi University. She notes that:
- Across generations and wars, those in the military have used tattoos as tributes to fallen brothers in arms;
- In the aftermath of 9/11, civilians and firefighters throughout the world chose tattoos as an indelible reminder of the terrorist assault, the courage of first responders, and the loss of so many;
- Sociologists Glen Gentry and Derek Alderman estimate that there are thousands of Katrina- and New Orleans-related tattoos reflecting both horrific images of crumbling buildings and gushing floodwater, as well as signs and symbols of a beloved city;
- In the wake of the unprecedented destruction from Hurricane Sandy, there have been numerous tattoo fundraisers.
“Whether a traumatic event involves a car accident, escape from freezing floodwaters, or the loss of a child, it is registered in our body in terms of the survival reflexes of fight, flight, and freeze,” Phillips says. “Encoded under these conditions, our memory of the traumatic event is not registered as narrative but as fragments of highly charged visual images, bodily feelings, tactile sensations, or sensory reactivity to reminders of the event.”
Because of this, trauma experts encourage us to work from the body out in the course of recovery and healing to attend to the sensations, senses, and images that carry the imprint of trauma. And in that sense, tattoos make sense.
“[They] use the body to register a traumatic event, [which] is a powerful re-doing. It starts at the body’s barrier of protection, the skin, and uses it as a canvas to bear witness, express, release and unlock the viscerally felt impact of trauma,” the psychologist explains.
“Connection with self and others in a way that makes the future a possibility is crucial in healing and moving beyond trauma. When a tattoo is more than a static sign of identification with loss or pain, when it is an ongoing reminder of pain suffered and pain survived, it becomes transformative and serves as an ongoing sign of resiliency and possibility.”
However, this particular design isn’t just the late fiancé’s initials with their engagement date. Instead of remembrance, it signifies everlasting possession, and to some, that might be two different things.
The woman provided more information in the comments as her story went viral
Most people believe there’s nothing wrong with the tattoo
But some say she jumped the gun
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Joe Reaves 7 months ago
The issue is with the tattoo being there all the time. While you expect someone who has lost a partner to always have them in their heart while, hopefully, having room for someone else who comes along, when you have a tattoo like that there is no moment that is just for the two of you. He's always *right there*, completely unable to be ignored. Even if she's not thinking of him at that moment, you are, unwillingly.
Anthony Elmore 7 months ago
This 100%. A guy's going to understand missing someone who died. They're going to TRY to understand why the tattoo is important, but they're going to be constantly reminded. It's going to wear pretty heavily on them though, because the reminder is always just right there. They're reminded of it more than YOU are, because they see it half the time they look at you. S**t, my body's covered in these swirl patterns of pigmentation, and I forget they're there half the time, but people looking at me see them every time. Please don't make your SO think about your dead ex more than you do. It's not about preventing someone from thinking about their dead ex, it's about not constantly reminding your SO that they're the consolation prize.
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Marcos Valencia 7 months ago (edited)
You can't be TA when you're asked for your honest opinion and that's what you give. But, indeed, it's complicated. If my wife loved deeply her boyfriend while they were together, I'm just second choise? Can't she love me even more? There is "only one true love" in life? I had two meaningful gf's before marrying my wife (one for almost 8 years, the second for 3 years), and I really loved both of them. And now, I love my wife even more than I loved them. I got no tattoos, but I wrote letters, I wrote dedications in books (and I received a few, too), with deep, sincere love. I found my "forever person" three times in life. But, I understand a tattoo can be "too much" for many people, probably it could also be somehow unconfortable to me (even if the guy is, unfortunately, dead).
BeesEelsAndPups 7 months ago
I'd add that the Titanic is just a movie. It's totally possible for a real "Rose" to have loved both Jack and her Husband. And if you are dating a person over the age of 25, and expecting that you will be their first and only love, you are fooling yourself. Is it possible? Sure, but it's not very likely. And if that person is a widow/widower, you have to expect that they will want to hold on to some aspects of their past. They didn't grow apart, or choose to end the relationship. They lost a loved one.
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Power puff scientist 7 months ago
It's anyone's right to do whatever they please but need to understand you don't want to deal with it. If you go to your love interests house and they still have their exes photos standing in the room and no matter how long you date they won't remove the photos that's super awkward. A tattoo is kind of the same, as the new partner you are constantly reminded of the ex. A tattoo like that is even worse because it's easily visible and will probably often lead to conversations when people find it you are not Brian or whatever. Needing to deal with that anytime you meet new people can be super awkward for everyone involved.
Marcos Valencia 7 months ago
Even if the ex is dead? I think that would make an important difference.
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Apatheist Account2 7 months ago
One more reason never to have a tattoo. I had to wait until my fourth girlfriend before I found one that lasted. I understand her commitment to Brian, but every guy is going to wonder whether she's making subconscious comparisons. To say "any man worth the time wouldn't care" is at best naïve.
Ace 7 months ago (edited)
I'm still in quite an early stage of grieving my wife who died suddenly a few months ago. I don't have a tattoo, but I'm still wearing my wedding ring and some of her favourite pieces of jewellery. It's difficult to imagine how I may feel ten years down the line, or even one, but the way I feel right now any future partner would need to understand that they could never replace her... 😭The wedding ring stays.
Mimi M 7 months ago
I am so sorry for the loss of your wife. May you find strength and comfort and feel her spirit around you always.
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Emilu 7 months ago
She asked; he told her. How the héll does that make him TA? Again, and as always, YTAs are smoking something fantastic/terrible. She’s not an AH for a tattoo for her first love, but her choice does mean potential suitors may be wary. NAH, but the friend is maybe a bit naive going into dating and not expecting her tattoo to be an issue.
Tabitha 7 months ago (edited)
She could remove the prominent tattoo and have a smaller one of something only she and Brian shared and loved together—-favorite plant, favorite animal, favorite actor, if they both loved Christmas then a small Christmas tree, or whatever the two of them shared a love for. Something small and discreet without Brian’s name on it that only she knows has everything in the world to do with him. Her new boyfriends will never know, and she doesn’t have to tell them anything, or at least none of the true backstory, about it, because it’s a secret only she and Brian shared. I don’t know. I’m just spitballing an idea for a solution.
Rika 7 months ago
There are two big issues with that tattoo: the placement and the wording. Let's be honest for a minute, if you were to meet a girl who has "Forever Brian's" tattooed on her t*ts, would your first thought REALLY be that it must be a way to honor her deceased partner ? I'm pretty sure the guys she dates could get over a name and date tattooed on her wrist or something. What makes them uncomfortable is they know a lot of people are going to think the girl got that tattoo from her former "job", and they don't feel like having to explain, "No, Brian wasn't her p*mp who forced her to get that tattoo when she worked for him." to their friends and family after introducing her.
Orysha 7 months ago
This story hit a litlle too close. You can't win against a ghost, the tatoo is a permanent visual reminder, and that's complicated enough without it . Either you tell your partner about your lost love and they get jealous or you don't and they think you don't trust them enough. Maybe someone accepting it exists but I still have to meet them.
CD Mills 7 months ago
I think this guy put in some time thinking about how best to frame this after seeing and hearing several guys have issues over time. A lot of guys might not put much thought into saying something, but this guy did. He tried his best to stay neutral, reiterated that this is "just one guy's opinion" and had a decent take that she insisted on hearing. He didn't try to hurt her feelings, but sometimes truth does hurt; she shouldn't shoot the messenger when she insisted.
Space Invader 7 months ago
Sorry to be pedantic, but the Titanic analogy is decidedly lopsided. Rose didn't think of her husband because she was specifically asked to recall the events on the Titanic, which happened to feature Jack, not her husband. Doesn't mean she never loved her husband, or thought about him.
CP 7 months ago
At the end when Rose died, she didn't go to her husband in the afterlife. She went to Jack.
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Lousha 7 months ago
Nobody is an AH for providing an opinion that was not only asked for, but demanded. I for one though don't agree with his opinion. I appreciate that this would be a deal breaker for lots of people. But if we go with the analogy, Rose did not disrespect her husband or loved him less for spending her last days with the memory of Jack. Emotions are complicated, first loves, especially unfinished ones where one party lost their life are impactful. Rose's life and love with her husband was as full as human life can be, they lived it together, and then the husband arrived at the end of the road. They were probably happy, and probably both had memories outside of the marriage. Rose probably didn't spend her life constantly pining over Jack, but retained his memory as a sweet part of her life. One can love more than one person during a lifetime. Nobody thinks it's impossible for a mom to love her second child. So why would it be impossible to love a second husband while still loving the first?
Lousha 7 months ago
If we're going with movies, here's Cast Away. For the world, Chuck was as dead as Jack. His partner moved on just as Rose did. But then Chuck was "resurrected". Those who think that a second partner of a bereaved one will always just be a placeholder, a second best, would have to expect her to throw away her husband at that point, and run back to Chuck. But Kelly did not do that. She still loved Chuck, clearly, with all her heart, but she ALSO loved her husband and new life with all her heart. Because hearts are like infinity. She left Chuck in the past, and did not go backwards even when given the rare chance that most who lost a loved one would not get. And at the same time, it was very clear - to me at least - that she would always, always still love Chuck, as long as she lived. Love doesn't have to be exclusive, only commitment. You don't have to "get over" the one you lost, you just have to decide that now you're with someone new, and allow yourself to love fully.
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Andrea Goodell 7 months ago
NTA, that was honest and on point advice. If she still wants it removed, fine. She certainly can have something put somewhere else on her body that won't be in your face. Maybe a beautiful flower design of his birth and death month flowers.
Robin Roper 7 months ago
Don't ask for an honest opinion, hear the warning that the honest opinion may be hard to hear, say you're still good to hear the honest opinion, then get upset the person expressed their honest opinion. Good for OP, it should like he was also caring. The friend needs to get into therapy. The tattoo artist should have warned her; this tattoo will be there forever unless you undergo the painful process of having it removed. At some point you will meet someone else who you love and who loves you. The tattoo you want will be a turn off; you should find another way to honor him and your relationship - maybe plant a tree.
Gavin Johnson 7 months ago
Whilst it’s useless to say this given that the tattoo is already there… Never get a name tattooed. It rarely ends well. 50% of marriages end in divorce, more relationships fall by the wayside than survive. Are the odds in your favour? Are humans idiots? It’s so easy to get a tattoo that signifies your love for them that doesn’t cause long term drama, why do it? I have tattoos that are for me, not my ex-wife or other long term partners, I’ve had two deep, meaningful and long relationships and I’m in the last one I’ll ever have. Will I tattoo her name on me? Nope. My love for her, the way I speak about her, the joy she brings me is my demonstration of her importance to me. No tattoo required. Sam owns my heart and that’s way better than any tattoo. PS get those tattoos covered / removed, it’ll be way easier to move through life.
Jumping Jellyfishes 7 months ago
What it came to was that although it was something deeply personal and sentimental to her, it’s also a billboard to everyone else.
marcelo D. 7 months ago
That's not the plot of the titanic. She was being interviewed about the titanic, so she said what happened to her in the titanic, of course she wasn't talking about the husband she hadn't met yet
CP 7 months ago
When Rose died at the end, the movie showed her going to Jack in the afterlife. That is what everyone is referring to.
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Bonnie Blue Bird 7 months ago
Would she be ok with him having a chest tattoo that says, 'Forever [ex-girlfriends name]?'
LookASquirrel 7 months ago
An ex is different than a fiancé that passes away. Although I agree the chest placement wasn't a great idea, she was probably grieving and put it over her heart.
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Phae Thompson 4 months ago
When you get a tattoo, you need to think about what you're getting because you'll have to wear it for life.
h to da izzle 4 months ago
I was in that unfortunate situation 11 years ago, my SO passed away due to cancer. I have never once thought about getting her name tatooed (and i have a lot of tattoos). While i get the urge to do so, its the one thing you should not do. Its just plain stupid. I have tattoos that remind me of her but they don't scream "i will never love another human being like her". They are a reminder to me and not the world. Its something private and intimate and not for other people to comment on or feel rejected by it.
JudyfromAccounts 7 months ago (edited)
In the fictional movie Titanic, they only interviewed Rose about her time on the ship, so that's all she talked about. There is no evidence to say she loved Jack more than her husband of 60 years. Only that her memories of Jack were vivid. She will forever be Brian's because Brian cannot have another. She can be forever to anyone that she chooses. Tattoos are made to be permanent. She can keep the tattoo and find a good partner if she likes. Any man who dates for years then "can't commit" because of a tattoo she had on the first date is just making excuses. Let those lame guys go.
Paul C 7 months ago
I'm not sure this is genuine as I don't think many men would use the Titanic reference to make their point. Most men I know would be honest and direct if pushed to answer the question. The OP was dumb as hell if he answered this whilst the women were drunk though - that could only end badly.
Robert Beveridge 7 months ago
Lotta insecure people in those comments looking for an excuse to compete with a dead guy. I wish them luck in all their future failed relationships. Maybe someday they'll drunkenly ask someone why and get a similarly blunt response.
Joe Reaves 7 months ago
The issue is with the tattoo being there all the time. While you expect someone who has lost a partner to always have them in their heart while, hopefully, having room for someone else who comes along, when you have a tattoo like that there is no moment that is just for the two of you. He's always *right there*, completely unable to be ignored. Even if she's not thinking of him at that moment, you are, unwillingly.
Anthony Elmore 7 months ago
This 100%. A guy's going to understand missing someone who died. They're going to TRY to understand why the tattoo is important, but they're going to be constantly reminded. It's going to wear pretty heavily on them though, because the reminder is always just right there. They're reminded of it more than YOU are, because they see it half the time they look at you. S**t, my body's covered in these swirl patterns of pigmentation, and I forget they're there half the time, but people looking at me see them every time. Please don't make your SO think about your dead ex more than you do. It's not about preventing someone from thinking about their dead ex, it's about not constantly reminding your SO that they're the consolation prize.
Load More Replies... Marcos Valencia 7 months ago (edited)
You can't be TA when you're asked for your honest opinion and that's what you give. But, indeed, it's complicated. If my wife loved deeply her boyfriend while they were together, I'm just second choise? Can't she love me even more? There is "only one true love" in life? I had two meaningful gf's before marrying my wife (one for almost 8 years, the second for 3 years), and I really loved both of them. And now, I love my wife even more than I loved them. I got no tattoos, but I wrote letters, I wrote dedications in books (and I received a few, too), with deep, sincere love. I found my "forever person" three times in life. But, I understand a tattoo can be "too much" for many people, probably it could also be somehow unconfortable to me (even if the guy is, unfortunately, dead).
BeesEelsAndPups 7 months ago
I'd add that the Titanic is just a movie. It's totally possible for a real "Rose" to have loved both Jack and her Husband. And if you are dating a person over the age of 25, and expecting that you will be their first and only love, you are fooling yourself. Is it possible? Sure, but it's not very likely. And if that person is a widow/widower, you have to expect that they will want to hold on to some aspects of their past. They didn't grow apart, or choose to end the relationship. They lost a loved one.
Load More Replies... Power puff scientist 7 months ago
It's anyone's right to do whatever they please but need to understand you don't want to deal with it. If you go to your love interests house and they still have their exes photos standing in the room and no matter how long you date they won't remove the photos that's super awkward. A tattoo is kind of the same, as the new partner you are constantly reminded of the ex. A tattoo like that is even worse because it's easily visible and will probably often lead to conversations when people find it you are not Brian or whatever. Needing to deal with that anytime you meet new people can be super awkward for everyone involved.
Marcos Valencia 7 months ago
Even if the ex is dead? I think that would make an important difference.
Load More Replies... Apatheist Account2 7 months ago
One more reason never to have a tattoo. I had to wait until my fourth girlfriend before I found one that lasted. I understand her commitment to Brian, but every guy is going to wonder whether she's making subconscious comparisons. To say "any man worth the time wouldn't care" is at best naïve.
Ace 7 months ago (edited)
I'm still in quite an early stage of grieving my wife who died suddenly a few months ago. I don't have a tattoo, but I'm still wearing my wedding ring and some of her favourite pieces of jewellery. It's difficult to imagine how I may feel ten years down the line, or even one, but the way I feel right now any future partner would need to understand that they could never replace her... 😭The wedding ring stays.
Mimi M 7 months ago
I am so sorry for the loss of your wife. May you find strength and comfort and feel her spirit around you always.
Load More Replies... Emilu 7 months ago
She asked; he told her. How the héll does that make him TA? Again, and as always, YTAs are smoking something fantastic/terrible. She’s not an AH for a tattoo for her first love, but her choice does mean potential suitors may be wary. NAH, but the friend is maybe a bit naive going into dating and not expecting her tattoo to be an issue.
Tabitha 7 months ago (edited)
She could remove the prominent tattoo and have a smaller one of something only she and Brian shared and loved together—-favorite plant, favorite animal, favorite actor, if they both loved Christmas then a small Christmas tree, or whatever the two of them shared a love for. Something small and discreet without Brian’s name on it that only she knows has everything in the world to do with him. Her new boyfriends will never know, and she doesn’t have to tell them anything, or at least none of the true backstory, about it, because it’s a secret only she and Brian shared. I don’t know. I’m just spitballing an idea for a solution.
Rika 7 months ago
There are two big issues with that tattoo: the placement and the wording. Let's be honest for a minute, if you were to meet a girl who has "Forever Brian's" tattooed on her t*ts, would your first thought REALLY be that it must be a way to honor her deceased partner ? I'm pretty sure the guys she dates could get over a name and date tattooed on her wrist or something. What makes them uncomfortable is they know a lot of people are going to think the girl got that tattoo from her former "job", and they don't feel like having to explain, "No, Brian wasn't her p*mp who forced her to get that tattoo when she worked for him." to their friends and family after introducing her.
Orysha 7 months ago
This story hit a litlle too close. You can't win against a ghost, the tatoo is a permanent visual reminder, and that's complicated enough without it . Either you tell your partner about your lost love and they get jealous or you don't and they think you don't trust them enough. Maybe someone accepting it exists but I still have to meet them.
CD Mills 7 months ago
I think this guy put in some time thinking about how best to frame this after seeing and hearing several guys have issues over time. A lot of guys might not put much thought into saying something, but this guy did. He tried his best to stay neutral, reiterated that this is "just one guy's opinion" and had a decent take that she insisted on hearing. He didn't try to hurt her feelings, but sometimes truth does hurt; she shouldn't shoot the messenger when she insisted.
Space Invader 7 months ago
Sorry to be pedantic, but the Titanic analogy is decidedly lopsided. Rose didn't think of her husband because she was specifically asked to recall the events on the Titanic, which happened to feature Jack, not her husband. Doesn't mean she never loved her husband, or thought about him.
CP 7 months ago
At the end when Rose died, she didn't go to her husband in the afterlife. She went to Jack.
Load More Replies... Lousha 7 months ago
Nobody is an AH for providing an opinion that was not only asked for, but demanded. I for one though don't agree with his opinion. I appreciate that this would be a deal breaker for lots of people. But if we go with the analogy, Rose did not disrespect her husband or loved him less for spending her last days with the memory of Jack. Emotions are complicated, first loves, especially unfinished ones where one party lost their life are impactful. Rose's life and love with her husband was as full as human life can be, they lived it together, and then the husband arrived at the end of the road. They were probably happy, and probably both had memories outside of the marriage. Rose probably didn't spend her life constantly pining over Jack, but retained his memory as a sweet part of her life. One can love more than one person during a lifetime. Nobody thinks it's impossible for a mom to love her second child. So why would it be impossible to love a second husband while still loving the first?
Lousha 7 months ago
If we're going with movies, here's Cast Away. For the world, Chuck was as dead as Jack. His partner moved on just as Rose did. But then Chuck was "resurrected". Those who think that a second partner of a bereaved one will always just be a placeholder, a second best, would have to expect her to throw away her husband at that point, and run back to Chuck. But Kelly did not do that. She still loved Chuck, clearly, with all her heart, but she ALSO loved her husband and new life with all her heart. Because hearts are like infinity. She left Chuck in the past, and did not go backwards even when given the rare chance that most who lost a loved one would not get. And at the same time, it was very clear - to me at least - that she would always, always still love Chuck, as long as she lived. Love doesn't have to be exclusive, only commitment. You don't have to "get over" the one you lost, you just have to decide that now you're with someone new, and allow yourself to love fully.
Load More Replies... Andrea Goodell 7 months ago
NTA, that was honest and on point advice. If she still wants it removed, fine. She certainly can have something put somewhere else on her body that won't be in your face. Maybe a beautiful flower design of his birth and death month flowers.
Robin Roper 7 months ago
Don't ask for an honest opinion, hear the warning that the honest opinion may be hard to hear, say you're still good to hear the honest opinion, then get upset the person expressed their honest opinion. Good for OP, it should like he was also caring. The friend needs to get into therapy. The tattoo artist should have warned her; this tattoo will be there forever unless you undergo the painful process of having it removed. At some point you will meet someone else who you love and who loves you. The tattoo you want will be a turn off; you should find another way to honor him and your relationship - maybe plant a tree.
Gavin Johnson 7 months ago
Whilst it’s useless to say this given that the tattoo is already there… Never get a name tattooed. It rarely ends well. 50% of marriages end in divorce, more relationships fall by the wayside than survive. Are the odds in your favour? Are humans idiots? It’s so easy to get a tattoo that signifies your love for them that doesn’t cause long term drama, why do it? I have tattoos that are for me, not my ex-wife or other long term partners, I’ve had two deep, meaningful and long relationships and I’m in the last one I’ll ever have. Will I tattoo her name on me? Nope. My love for her, the way I speak about her, the joy she brings me is my demonstration of her importance to me. No tattoo required. Sam owns my heart and that’s way better than any tattoo. PS get those tattoos covered / removed, it’ll be way easier to move through life.
Jumping Jellyfishes 7 months ago
What it came to was that although it was something deeply personal and sentimental to her, it’s also a billboard to everyone else.
marcelo D. 7 months ago
That's not the plot of the titanic. She was being interviewed about the titanic, so she said what happened to her in the titanic, of course she wasn't talking about the husband she hadn't met yet
CP 7 months ago
When Rose died at the end, the movie showed her going to Jack in the afterlife. That is what everyone is referring to.
Load More Replies... Bonnie Blue Bird 7 months ago
Would she be ok with him having a chest tattoo that says, 'Forever [ex-girlfriends name]?'
LookASquirrel 7 months ago
An ex is different than a fiancé that passes away. Although I agree the chest placement wasn't a great idea, she was probably grieving and put it over her heart.
Load More Replies... Phae Thompson 4 months ago
When you get a tattoo, you need to think about what you're getting because you'll have to wear it for life.
h to da izzle 4 months ago
I was in that unfortunate situation 11 years ago, my SO passed away due to cancer. I have never once thought about getting her name tatooed (and i have a lot of tattoos). While i get the urge to do so, its the one thing you should not do. Its just plain stupid. I have tattoos that remind me of her but they don't scream "i will never love another human being like her". They are a reminder to me and not the world. Its something private and intimate and not for other people to comment on or feel rejected by it.
JudyfromAccounts 7 months ago (edited)
In the fictional movie Titanic, they only interviewed Rose about her time on the ship, so that's all she talked about. There is no evidence to say she loved Jack more than her husband of 60 years. Only that her memories of Jack were vivid. She will forever be Brian's because Brian cannot have another. She can be forever to anyone that she chooses. Tattoos are made to be permanent. She can keep the tattoo and find a good partner if she likes. Any man who dates for years then "can't commit" because of a tattoo she had on the first date is just making excuses. Let those lame guys go.
Paul C 7 months ago
I'm not sure this is genuine as I don't think many men would use the Titanic reference to make their point. Most men I know would be honest and direct if pushed to answer the question. The OP was dumb as hell if he answered this whilst the women were drunk though - that could only end badly.
Robert Beveridge 7 months ago
Lotta insecure people in those comments looking for an excuse to compete with a dead guy. I wish them luck in all their future failed relationships. Maybe someday they'll drunkenly ask someone why and get a similarly blunt response.
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