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“Asked Me Where ‘The Real Ring’ Is”: GF Refuses To Say Yes Because Of A Diamond Ring
“Asked Me Where ‘The Real Ring’ Is”: GF Refuses To Say Yes Because Of A Diamond Ring
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“Asked Me Where ‘The Real Ring’ Is”: GF Refuses To Say Yes Because Of A Diamond Ring

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It’s arguably safe to say that most people think of—or hope for, at least—the best possible scenario when planning to propose to someone. However, unfortunately, the answer is not always a straight-up yes.

When this redditor proposed to his girlfriend, she didn’t say “yes”; nor did she say “no”. Her answer was “where’s the real ring?”, as she expected her partner to pop the question with a different diamond ring. Scroll down to find the full story below.

Below you will also find Bored Panda’s interview with a clinical psychologist and the author of ‘The Power of Two: Secrets to a Strong & Loving Marriage’, Dr. Susan Heitler, who was kind enough to answer a few of our questions regarding getting engaged.

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    This woman refused to accept her boyfriend’s proposal unless he offered her a different diamond ring

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    Starting the marriage with an ultimatum might not be a good sign

    There are as many opinions on the dos and don’ts in regards to proposing as there are people. That’s why, while some don’t care that much about the kind of ring they are presented with, others might be upset or hurt by their partner not meeting their expectations.

    In the OP’s case, his girlfriend saw him not proposing with the ring she hoped for as a lack of commitment, which is not necessarily the case. “To the contrary, a commitment to do what is against his values and what is meaningful to him could indicate a commitment to being controlled by the other person,” clinical psychologist Dr. Susan Heitler suggested, discussing the topic with Bored Panda.

    “The symbolism of a diamond from ashes or a family heirloom often differs for different people,” Dr. Heitler continued. “When two people see these with different meanings, or with different levels of intensity of feelings, that’s normal. At the same time, ‘You have to do it my way,’ is a bad sign for the future of the potential marriage.”

    The expert also pointed out that a successful marriage requires having certain skills, and she advised trying to acquire those skills before sealing the deal. “Learn to talk and to listen in ways that sustain cooperation and love,” she suggested. “Learn to resolve your differences in a win-win way. Learn to step back when you feel angry instead of stepping forward to talk and act in anger—these skills make all the difference between a marriage that stays loving and a marriage that becomes troubling.”

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    Many people spend thousands of dollars on an engagement ring

    According to Dr. Heitler, the single most significant choice in many people’s lives is who they choose as a life partner. “Also, the biggest change in a person’s life is from single to married,” she added. “Engagement symbolizes both.”

    The significance of engagement and marriage might be why some people have this idea that a bigger financial commitment—meaning, a more expensive ring—equals a stronger commitment to their partner or a longer duration of a marriage. However, not only is it not necessarily the case, some studies suggest otherwise – spending more on an engagement ring might lead to a higher rate of divorce.

    Said research, based on a survey of more than 3,000 US adults who’ve ever been married, found that men who have spent somewhere between $2,000 and $4,000 on an engagement ring had a higher divorce rate (of roughly 1.3 times) than those who allotted a budget of $500 to $2,000, NBC News reports.

    “Wedding industry advertising has fueled the norm that spending large amounts on the engagement ring and wedding is an indication of commitment or is helpful for a marriage to be successful,” one of the co-authors of the study, associate professor and director of undergraduate studies in the department of economics at Emory University, Hugo M. Mialon, was cited saying. “In either case, the general message is that wedding spending and marriage duration are positively correlated,” when in reality, they arguably are not.

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    The interest in engagement rings for men seems to be growing

    Whether or not they believe that the price they pay for the ring will determine the length of the relationship, many men choose to spend thousands of dollars on an engagement ring—something nice for their beloved significant other. However, the trend in regards to who gets to wear an engagement ring seems to be shifting.

    While it’s typically the woman who wears a symbol of the couple’s love on her finger until they get married, there seems to be a growing demand for engagement rings for men. BBC reports that the jewelry industry is still adapting to the change, as, according to the managing director of London-based online diamond retailer 77 Diamonds, Tobias Kormind, such a demand was close to zero just seven years ago. “It’s still not a core product,” Kormind told BBC, “but it definitely seems to be growing.”

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    According to the BBC, it’s not only engagement rings for men that seem to be gaining popularity, but men’s jewelry in general. For instance, comprising roughly 7% of all sales in 2021, men’s jewelry at a New York-based jeweler, Eternate, now adds up to close to 15%, while the manufacturer of lab-grown diamond jewelry, Grown Brilliance, reports men’s sales growing at double the rate compared to the lines for women.

    It’s unclear whether or not the OP was planning on wearing the special ring himself; however, he was not willing to part with the diamond that contained his mother’s ashes, and the online community didn’t seem to think that that made him a jerk. Not only that, some found it odd that his fiancée wanted to wear such a ring on her finger every day.

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    The OP provided more details in the comments

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    Fellow netizens didn’t think he was a jerk in the situation

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    Miglė Miliūtė

    Miglė Miliūtė

    Writer, Community member

    A writer here at Bored Panda, I am a lover of good music, good food, and good company, which makes food-related topics and feel-good stories my favorite ones to cover. Passionate about traveling and concerts, I constantly seek occasions to visit places yet personally unexplored. I also enjoy spending free time outdoors, trying out different sports—even if I don’t look too graceful at it—or socializing over a cup of coffee.

    What do you think ?
    Melissa anderson
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The ones demanding a loyalty test to prove they are loved are the ones you should run away from fast.

    Papa
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, and you can bet that won't be the last time he gets "tested."

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    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. ❌ Also... BP? If you insist on regurgitating Reddit stuff, at least choose ones that have a final outcome.

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    Robert T
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unless her name is Morticia and yours is Gomez, run like the wind! Who in the hell would want to wear their dead MIL?

    Hakitosama
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Neither Morticia nor Gomez would demand such a thing ! They actually love each others

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    Spocks's Mom
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He didn't know that he proposed to Gullum.

    Jessie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even gollum didn’t wear a ring made of a corpse

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    Bored something
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So if he has to give her the most sentimentally valuable thing he may ever own, what's she giving him of equivalent value?

    Charles McChristy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG, if you meant anything to her she wouldn't be asking you to hand over your literal dead mother.

    MR
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You're not committed to me unless you let me wear your dead mom on my finger" is certainly an odd message she's sending him.

    Poison Ivy/Boo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And here I was thinking that at 53, I've seen and heard everything weird...but nope, stories like this?....just nope.

    Nizumi
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Here - let me go dig up my Dad and give you his skull while we're at it."

    Hey!
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That would be a great idea to drink the blood - sorry I meant wine - at the wedding.

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    Adam Belaire
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like she wants a way to hurt OP real bad if something doesn't work out how she wants it.

    Karl
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would give it to her on the condition she gives you her father’s heart on a plate. Fair’s fair 🙂

    Sunny Day
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't know Wednesday Addams was dating again.

    Amy Smith
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm on the NTA side here which I genuinely feel is the only proper side to be on. Why would she want to wear a diamond made out of her dead mother in law? If I'd have given that to someone and it had gotten lost, stolen or lost to me in a break up I'd be devastated. I don't think she's at all correct in saying that only this ring demonstrates your dedication or devotion to her. CREEPY! I think you should do what all these other good folk are suggesting and run for the hills as fast as you possibly can.

    Jessie
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The way he said it made it sound “morbid and insensitive” because that is exactly what it is. She is trying to make him hand over his mother’s corpse as a love/loyalty test. Who on earth does that? OP should run away from this woman as fast as humanly possible.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She put a condition on your proposal in the worst way possible. It's over. By all means stay together, but marriage is off the cards now if that is her demand.

    White Sauce Hot Sauce
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not even his ring to give. It's his mom's ring that he's taking care of.

    C. S.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's being unreasonable in her demands. I'd get the hell outta that situation right quick. She actually sounds like a well-concealed golddigger who will ultimately sap the financial resources of the guy if he stays with her. Get the hell out, Dude. She'll destroy you financially if she gets her way.

    Mike F
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To quote Patsy Stone "P**s Off!" is about as good a reply as she deserves.

    Sherman
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is wild. If my husband tried to propose to me w/ a ring made out of one of his dead relatives I'd be so creeped out. It would be one thing if it were my parents ashes or something. Or even my pets ashes. Something that is sentimental to me... still weird bc this isn't supposed to be a memorial ring. It's meant to signify unity, love n your commitment to one another for life. So essentially the opposite of death. So it's weird. I got mad at my husband for spending too much on my ring. It was like $600 he had it custom made to look like my grandmas engagement ring that got lost after she passed away. Which I love. It's gorgeous. I just didn't want to spend a ton of money on something that we both can't use or share. That's why we also got eloped. I'd rather have money for a home or a trip or a guitar we'd both use/enjoy than a material object. But that's just me. So If this were me. I'd run. So many red flags she ain't the one.

    V
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When my husband's grandmother passed away she left him one of her necklaces that she loved. It currently lives in my jewellery box, as he doesn't have one, but I am just a caregiver for it until our daughter is old enough to look after it. They are her descendants, not me.

    BobiJK
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Keep the ring ditch the b***h

    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder what she was prepared to do to show HER commitment.

    Giraffy Window
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I won't marry you until you give me your mother's urn. B***h is playing head games. She'll be making OP choose between her and their future children if OP stays with this self-centered discard pile. I hope she gets haunted.

    Sabrina Longo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If she loved him she would've said yes without the games.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kind of think the idea of proposing with my mother/diamond is kind of romantic but saying no unless you get to wear it is just weird.

    𝐆𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐦-𝐏𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The thing is, if she knew about the ring, and did a little research, she'd find out that a created diamond is virtually identical to a natural diamond, and that stones created from cremains are still diamonds, and therefore still valuable. It's a stone worth at least a few hundred dollars, and if he really splurged (because it was mom) maybe a couple of thousand. I would not put it past this woman to "sell mom" if the relationship went south. She wants something incredibly valuable even beyond the value of the diamond itself to maintain control over him/be able to punish him in the future.

    Kathy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Germany there is a rhyme: Geschenkt ist geschenkt, wieder holen ist gestohlen (A gift is a gift, getting it back is stealing it). An engagement ring is a gift and you cannot get it back when the engagement is broken up (only in case of great misconduct e.g. threatening the life of the fiancé or his/her parents, something like that). Therefore: NTA he should run as far and as quick as he can.

    ConstantlyJon
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Woman has either cheated or been cheated on. She sounds controlling as f**k and is trying to use this ring as a loyalty test. People who are actually in love don't need loyalty tests, they just need each other.

    Vinnie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the girlfriend wanted a relationship with the late mother, there are other ways to do it: stories, pictures, etc. Wanting to learn about the woman who raised the OP would be sweet. Just wearing her ashes like a trophy is lazy and controlling. Maybe girlfriend jealous and insecure enough to "lose" the ring.

    UpupaEpops
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Let me wear my dead MIL." Oh hell no!

    C.O. Shea
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's the biggest dámn red flag I have ever seen.

    Jamie Solt
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with squawksquawk13's comment on the post. "Next it'll be I can't get arrived unless it drains the bank account or I can't lice here unless it has everything my heart desires, etc" That woman is ridiculous...

    Melissa anderson
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The ones demanding a loyalty test to prove they are loved are the ones you should run away from fast.

    Papa
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, and you can bet that won't be the last time he gets "tested."

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    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. ❌ Also... BP? If you insist on regurgitating Reddit stuff, at least choose ones that have a final outcome.

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    Robert T
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unless her name is Morticia and yours is Gomez, run like the wind! Who in the hell would want to wear their dead MIL?

    Hakitosama
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Neither Morticia nor Gomez would demand such a thing ! They actually love each others

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    Spocks's Mom
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He didn't know that he proposed to Gullum.

    Jessie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even gollum didn’t wear a ring made of a corpse

    Load More Replies...
    Bored something
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So if he has to give her the most sentimentally valuable thing he may ever own, what's she giving him of equivalent value?

    Charles McChristy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG, if you meant anything to her she wouldn't be asking you to hand over your literal dead mother.

    MR
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You're not committed to me unless you let me wear your dead mom on my finger" is certainly an odd message she's sending him.

    Poison Ivy/Boo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And here I was thinking that at 53, I've seen and heard everything weird...but nope, stories like this?....just nope.

    Nizumi
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Here - let me go dig up my Dad and give you his skull while we're at it."

    Hey!
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That would be a great idea to drink the blood - sorry I meant wine - at the wedding.

    Load More Replies...
    Adam Belaire
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like she wants a way to hurt OP real bad if something doesn't work out how she wants it.

    Karl
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would give it to her on the condition she gives you her father’s heart on a plate. Fair’s fair 🙂

    Sunny Day
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't know Wednesday Addams was dating again.

    Amy Smith
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm on the NTA side here which I genuinely feel is the only proper side to be on. Why would she want to wear a diamond made out of her dead mother in law? If I'd have given that to someone and it had gotten lost, stolen or lost to me in a break up I'd be devastated. I don't think she's at all correct in saying that only this ring demonstrates your dedication or devotion to her. CREEPY! I think you should do what all these other good folk are suggesting and run for the hills as fast as you possibly can.

    Jessie
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The way he said it made it sound “morbid and insensitive” because that is exactly what it is. She is trying to make him hand over his mother’s corpse as a love/loyalty test. Who on earth does that? OP should run away from this woman as fast as humanly possible.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She put a condition on your proposal in the worst way possible. It's over. By all means stay together, but marriage is off the cards now if that is her demand.

    White Sauce Hot Sauce
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not even his ring to give. It's his mom's ring that he's taking care of.

    C. S.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's being unreasonable in her demands. I'd get the hell outta that situation right quick. She actually sounds like a well-concealed golddigger who will ultimately sap the financial resources of the guy if he stays with her. Get the hell out, Dude. She'll destroy you financially if she gets her way.

    Mike F
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To quote Patsy Stone "P**s Off!" is about as good a reply as she deserves.

    Sherman
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is wild. If my husband tried to propose to me w/ a ring made out of one of his dead relatives I'd be so creeped out. It would be one thing if it were my parents ashes or something. Or even my pets ashes. Something that is sentimental to me... still weird bc this isn't supposed to be a memorial ring. It's meant to signify unity, love n your commitment to one another for life. So essentially the opposite of death. So it's weird. I got mad at my husband for spending too much on my ring. It was like $600 he had it custom made to look like my grandmas engagement ring that got lost after she passed away. Which I love. It's gorgeous. I just didn't want to spend a ton of money on something that we both can't use or share. That's why we also got eloped. I'd rather have money for a home or a trip or a guitar we'd both use/enjoy than a material object. But that's just me. So If this were me. I'd run. So many red flags she ain't the one.

    V
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When my husband's grandmother passed away she left him one of her necklaces that she loved. It currently lives in my jewellery box, as he doesn't have one, but I am just a caregiver for it until our daughter is old enough to look after it. They are her descendants, not me.

    BobiJK
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Keep the ring ditch the b***h

    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder what she was prepared to do to show HER commitment.

    Giraffy Window
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I won't marry you until you give me your mother's urn. B***h is playing head games. She'll be making OP choose between her and their future children if OP stays with this self-centered discard pile. I hope she gets haunted.

    Sabrina Longo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If she loved him she would've said yes without the games.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kind of think the idea of proposing with my mother/diamond is kind of romantic but saying no unless you get to wear it is just weird.

    𝐆𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐦-𝐏𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The thing is, if she knew about the ring, and did a little research, she'd find out that a created diamond is virtually identical to a natural diamond, and that stones created from cremains are still diamonds, and therefore still valuable. It's a stone worth at least a few hundred dollars, and if he really splurged (because it was mom) maybe a couple of thousand. I would not put it past this woman to "sell mom" if the relationship went south. She wants something incredibly valuable even beyond the value of the diamond itself to maintain control over him/be able to punish him in the future.

    Kathy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Germany there is a rhyme: Geschenkt ist geschenkt, wieder holen ist gestohlen (A gift is a gift, getting it back is stealing it). An engagement ring is a gift and you cannot get it back when the engagement is broken up (only in case of great misconduct e.g. threatening the life of the fiancé or his/her parents, something like that). Therefore: NTA he should run as far and as quick as he can.

    ConstantlyJon
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Woman has either cheated or been cheated on. She sounds controlling as f**k and is trying to use this ring as a loyalty test. People who are actually in love don't need loyalty tests, they just need each other.

    Vinnie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the girlfriend wanted a relationship with the late mother, there are other ways to do it: stories, pictures, etc. Wanting to learn about the woman who raised the OP would be sweet. Just wearing her ashes like a trophy is lazy and controlling. Maybe girlfriend jealous and insecure enough to "lose" the ring.

    UpupaEpops
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Let me wear my dead MIL." Oh hell no!

    C.O. Shea
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's the biggest dámn red flag I have ever seen.

    Jamie Solt
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with squawksquawk13's comment on the post. "Next it'll be I can't get arrived unless it drains the bank account or I can't lice here unless it has everything my heart desires, etc" That woman is ridiculous...

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