Man Livid After Fiancée Reveals She’s Sterilized After Bonding Over Childfree Lifestyle
Interview With ExpertAs adorable as kids are, some people are just not made to be parents. However, communicating this to potential partners can be tricky, as figuring out when and how to do it can vary based on a myriad of factors.
This woman was always honest and open about not wanting children from the very first date. Just like she did with her current fiancé. However, after being together for 2 and a half years and getting engaged, the partner changed his mind about living a kid-free life. As a result, she was forced to reveal a secret she had been keeping for the entirety of their relationship.
Scroll down to find the full story and a conversation with licensed professional counselor Mark Verber, who kindly agreed to tell us more about when’s the right time to tell potential partners one can’t have children.
A partner changing his mind about wanting kids can be crushing
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When this woman received such news, she was forced to reveal a secret that she had been hiding from her partner for almost 3 years
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Discussing the ability to have children should be done as soon as the couple starts seeing a long-term future together
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Although it can be a tough conversation, it’s important that partners discuss their stance and ability to have children. To learn more about the intricacies surrounding it, Bored Panda reached out to licensed professional counselor Mark Verber.
He says that the timing of discussing this issue might be unique to each couple. However, generally, this should be done as soon as possible, ideally once the couple starts seriously seeing a long-term future together. “Early on in dating can be too soon because the topic isn’t aligned with the status of the relationship,” he explains.
“If the subject of having children is coming up, or topics such as moving in together, significant financial purchases, or changing jobs to suit the relationship – that’s a pretty good indicator that it’s time to broach the conversation,” Verber adds.
He also mentions that it’s important to keep in mind that the longer the conversation stays in a person’s head, the more difficult it will become. On the other hand, the longer it’s out in the open, the easier it will get.
“Shoot for a time when you are likely to be present, relaxed, and in a place that allows for both retreat and reconnection”
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To make it easier to start such a conversation in the first place, Verber recommends scheduling it when the partner is at ease. “When someone is tired, stressed, or distracted, they are less receptive. Shoot for a time when you are likely to be present, relaxed, and in a place that allows for both retreat and reconnection,” he says.
He also points out, “It should go without saying, but it bears emphasizing that the conversation should take place in person – not via text. Texting may be efficient, but it is not productive in this case.”
Veber further reminds us that “despite the importance of being intentional with timing, it will never be perfect. Waiting for the perfect time or words usually leads to lots of waiting and very few words.”
When approaching this sensitive topic, he often teaches couples to “T” it up for one another, which means prioritizing timing, tone, and tact. “The focus is on when, how, and what is said. It’s also important to understand that this is not likely to be a single conversation but rather an unfolding process of several,” he said. “Try not to judge the ultimate response by the initial reaction. Acceptance and understanding can grow with time. A plan for how to navigate moving forward is essential but secondary.”
While discussing the stance and ability to have children can be a game-changer in a relationship, it doesn’t have to be a deal-breaker. In fact, an OkCupid study found that 72% of respondents would still stay with a partner even after finding out that kids are off the table. More specifically, 75% of men and 67% of women would stay with a significant other who isn’t able to have children and isn’t willing to adopt.
Verber concludes by saying, “As difficult as it is, I encourage people to view situations like this as an ‘annoying opportunity.’ It’s not something you would choose, and it’s not easy, but it can be an opportunity. Couples grow closer and relationships become stronger by responding to adversity in a positive way.”
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Share on FacebookThe "she's so young, she'll change her mind" pisses me off. I have never wanted kids. From my 14th up to now (57) Never have I doubted this and felt a tingle in my chicken coop. You would not believe how many times I heard the old "oh, you'll change your mind" bullsh!t. She is NTA and if she did not tell him about her sterlilisation then that's her business. They both agreed No Kids. And him letting his friends call her an AH tells us much about his weakness and stupidity.
Chicken coop. There's a euphemism I hadn't heard before lol
Load More Replies...What the hell is it with the assumption that people don't know their own minds? The sheer arrogance of thinking his wants are more important than hers and all he has to do is 'persuade' her to have them for HIS gratification? I always knew I did not want kids. My husband felt exactly the same. And why should she have to make up excuses for not wanting kids? No is a complete sentence, she doesn't owe it to anyone to explain why.
I don’t want kids and I’m up front about that when I meet someone (for a date not just meeting a random person). A former - emphasis on former there - friend got mad at me for telling a guy on a first date that I didn’t want kids (the guy did). According to my friend, “you never know what will happen” which is always code for “you’ll change your mind”. 🙄🙄 The guy, on the other hand, had no issues with me telling him straightaway because it kept us from wasting our time.
Load More Replies...If OP'S fiançé had said that he was open to having kids and OP went along with it, I would deem her the àsshole. But as it stands, she stated upfront that she didn't want children, and her fiançé acted as if he was on the same page. Now HE'S the victim because OP didn't inform him of her procedure? He lied to her face and thought he could change her mind (i.e., baby trap her). He's a crapoy excuse for a human being; OP dodged a Polaris-Poseidon-Patriot ICBM.
How is it even remotely acceptable to announce to your parents that you'll be having kids without ever mentioning it to your partner? This guy doesn't value her as an intelligent human being. Huge red flag.
To me that's as much of a red flag as expecting her to change her mind. Clearly he sees her as a prop in his life.
Load More Replies...One of the reasons I got sterilised in my early 20s was to avoid this exact situation! I know of far too many people who’ve discovered two, five, ten years into a relationship that the person who said they were fine with not becoming a parent had been “humouring” them, sure that it was “a phase” because “everyone said” she’ll “come to her senses” when “her biological clock starts ticking”. Telling people up-front that it’s physically impossible makes that a lot less likely.
Men trying to "convince" their partner and to "wear them down" aren't looking for an equal they're looking for baby factories. Sis you dodge a bullet
Lying to conceal a major incompatibility in order to continue a relationship and expecting them to be the one to change to meet your demands is incredibly dishonest, disrespectful and manipulative. This guy is trying to blame you for not discussing your private medical history, when the real problem here is that he is a manipulative lier who doesn't respect you as a person. If he'd been honest about his intentions, he could have responded with "Thank you for sharing that with me.That must have been a really stressful situation. I'm glad you were able to get the medical care you needed, and don't have this risk hanging over you anymore." Like a loving, supportive, securely child-free partner.
When I was dumped because I couldn't have children I couldn't help feeling, that he wanted a breeding cow not a woman companion. I never wanted children and feels very much like OP even to kittens and puppies. I like them older than most people do.
Load More Replies...On the subject if "you'll change your mind" from doctors or partners or anyone. Thinking someone is too stupid to know if they don't want kids should mean they are also too stupid to have them, which is a much more important decision. If you change your mind about being child free, you can always adoptm if you go ahead and have a kid you don't want, that ruins lives.
I agree with OP on almost all points. Run from any partner who doesn't respect you enough to take you at your word. Run faster from someone who wants to change you. BUT how do you get to engaged without making birth control choices really clear? Huge red flag that she was able to say, it's fine I'll take care of it or something, and there was no follow up discussion. This makes me think she did disclose and he didn't believe her, just like he didn't believe her previously, or he's the type of person to put all the onus on the other partner. Either way, manipulave AH and I am sure OP will be better off without him.
Many men don't care how you prevent pregnancy as long as you do. The "how" doesn't necessarily come up.
Load More Replies...I knew at age 6 I didn't wanted to be pregnant. When I talked about kids I would always say adoption with the argument that "why make kids if some are already alive and need families" and when I got 10 I knew I didn't want children ever. I'm now 19 and looking for getting my tubes tied (legal from age 18 with no conditions where I live). I'm getting my diploma to work with kids so when people tell me I mustn't like kids if I don't want any it pisses me off so much ! I want to be the fun aunt, I want to spend times with kids but at the end of the day give them back to their parents. Pregnancy terrifies me, always have. I'm so happy for them when my friends get pregnant but I never touches their belly, it gross me a bit. I have recurring nightmare of being pregnant and it's really a phobia for me. I know I will always have to justify myself in the future, of why I don't want kids, why I got sterilised so early, if I'm sure I will never regret it...
The "she's so young, she'll change her mind" pisses me off. I have never wanted kids. From my 14th up to now (57) Never have I doubted this and felt a tingle in my chicken coop. You would not believe how many times I heard the old "oh, you'll change your mind" bullsh!t. She is NTA and if she did not tell him about her sterlilisation then that's her business. They both agreed No Kids. And him letting his friends call her an AH tells us much about his weakness and stupidity.
Chicken coop. There's a euphemism I hadn't heard before lol
Load More Replies...What the hell is it with the assumption that people don't know their own minds? The sheer arrogance of thinking his wants are more important than hers and all he has to do is 'persuade' her to have them for HIS gratification? I always knew I did not want kids. My husband felt exactly the same. And why should she have to make up excuses for not wanting kids? No is a complete sentence, she doesn't owe it to anyone to explain why.
I don’t want kids and I’m up front about that when I meet someone (for a date not just meeting a random person). A former - emphasis on former there - friend got mad at me for telling a guy on a first date that I didn’t want kids (the guy did). According to my friend, “you never know what will happen” which is always code for “you’ll change your mind”. 🙄🙄 The guy, on the other hand, had no issues with me telling him straightaway because it kept us from wasting our time.
Load More Replies...If OP'S fiançé had said that he was open to having kids and OP went along with it, I would deem her the àsshole. But as it stands, she stated upfront that she didn't want children, and her fiançé acted as if he was on the same page. Now HE'S the victim because OP didn't inform him of her procedure? He lied to her face and thought he could change her mind (i.e., baby trap her). He's a crapoy excuse for a human being; OP dodged a Polaris-Poseidon-Patriot ICBM.
How is it even remotely acceptable to announce to your parents that you'll be having kids without ever mentioning it to your partner? This guy doesn't value her as an intelligent human being. Huge red flag.
To me that's as much of a red flag as expecting her to change her mind. Clearly he sees her as a prop in his life.
Load More Replies...One of the reasons I got sterilised in my early 20s was to avoid this exact situation! I know of far too many people who’ve discovered two, five, ten years into a relationship that the person who said they were fine with not becoming a parent had been “humouring” them, sure that it was “a phase” because “everyone said” she’ll “come to her senses” when “her biological clock starts ticking”. Telling people up-front that it’s physically impossible makes that a lot less likely.
Men trying to "convince" their partner and to "wear them down" aren't looking for an equal they're looking for baby factories. Sis you dodge a bullet
Lying to conceal a major incompatibility in order to continue a relationship and expecting them to be the one to change to meet your demands is incredibly dishonest, disrespectful and manipulative. This guy is trying to blame you for not discussing your private medical history, when the real problem here is that he is a manipulative lier who doesn't respect you as a person. If he'd been honest about his intentions, he could have responded with "Thank you for sharing that with me.That must have been a really stressful situation. I'm glad you were able to get the medical care you needed, and don't have this risk hanging over you anymore." Like a loving, supportive, securely child-free partner.
When I was dumped because I couldn't have children I couldn't help feeling, that he wanted a breeding cow not a woman companion. I never wanted children and feels very much like OP even to kittens and puppies. I like them older than most people do.
Load More Replies...On the subject if "you'll change your mind" from doctors or partners or anyone. Thinking someone is too stupid to know if they don't want kids should mean they are also too stupid to have them, which is a much more important decision. If you change your mind about being child free, you can always adoptm if you go ahead and have a kid you don't want, that ruins lives.
I agree with OP on almost all points. Run from any partner who doesn't respect you enough to take you at your word. Run faster from someone who wants to change you. BUT how do you get to engaged without making birth control choices really clear? Huge red flag that she was able to say, it's fine I'll take care of it or something, and there was no follow up discussion. This makes me think she did disclose and he didn't believe her, just like he didn't believe her previously, or he's the type of person to put all the onus on the other partner. Either way, manipulave AH and I am sure OP will be better off without him.
Many men don't care how you prevent pregnancy as long as you do. The "how" doesn't necessarily come up.
Load More Replies...I knew at age 6 I didn't wanted to be pregnant. When I talked about kids I would always say adoption with the argument that "why make kids if some are already alive and need families" and when I got 10 I knew I didn't want children ever. I'm now 19 and looking for getting my tubes tied (legal from age 18 with no conditions where I live). I'm getting my diploma to work with kids so when people tell me I mustn't like kids if I don't want any it pisses me off so much ! I want to be the fun aunt, I want to spend times with kids but at the end of the day give them back to their parents. Pregnancy terrifies me, always have. I'm so happy for them when my friends get pregnant but I never touches their belly, it gross me a bit. I have recurring nightmare of being pregnant and it's really a phobia for me. I know I will always have to justify myself in the future, of why I don't want kids, why I got sterilised so early, if I'm sure I will never regret it...




























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