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Entitled Woman Expects Neighbors To Keep Their Kids Inside So Her Dog Can Run Around Freely
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Entitled Woman Expects Neighbors To Keep Their Kids Inside So Her Dog Can Run Around Freely

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Dog socialization benefits not only the animal and its owner but everyone around them as well. As the dog learns to respect boundaries and behave properly in various situations, other animals and people will be way more comfortable and at ease around it.

Ignore this important aspect of dog training, and social encounters can become less and less manageable with each interaction.

Three days ago, Reddit user u/InTheHeightsObsessed asked the “Am I The A-Hole” community if it was wrong of her to ask her neighbors to keep their kids indoors at certain times throughout the day. You know, because her dog “barks incessantly whenever they’re in the yard at the same time.”

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Before we all jump to the comment section, let’s talk about dog socialization more specifically. New York City-based dog trainer and pet expert Andrea Arden says it is a critical part of raising a healthy dog.

“Dogs that have the benefit of adequate early socialization (starting as young as 8 weeks of age), are more likely to live a less stressful life because they are comfortable in different environments and around different people and other animals, the author of Barron’s Dog Training Bible and Dog-Friendly Dog Training told Bored Panda. “The dog’s family also benefits from a well-socialized dog because they are generally easier to live with. Keep in mind that socialization does not mean a dog won’t react to certain people, dogs, or environments. Every dog has a different temperament that is genetically predisposed and the goal of socialization is to help a dog become the best version of themselves, not to make them tolerant of everything.”

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Arden highlighted that a “thoughtful socialization protocol includes exposure to environments outside of the home for short periods of time where the dog has the opportunity to meet people who are calm and to get rewards during these interactions to best ensure a positive association.”

The pet trainer said socialization with other dogs is also advised so as to prevent fear and/or aggression issues later on in life. “For puppies, socialization may include attendance at trainer moderated playgroups geared specifically to dogs between 8-20 weeks of age. For adult dogs, it is generally advised to organize smaller socialization opportunities such as the dog meeting one or two friendly dogs at a time so as not to be overwhelmed.”

However, Arden said it is generally ill-advised to make dog parks part of an early socialization protocol as they can be overwhelming and over stimulating for many dogs. “A dog park is often like an out-of-control frat party!”

Nigel Reed, a dog behaviorist and author from London, UK, added that “it is imperative that the experiences are positive and may need the owners to intervene if a dog is being a bully or being bullied to prevent future problems.”

“It’s never too late to socialize a dog, however, the earlier you start the easier it is,” Reed, who is also known as The Dog Guardian, explained. “This is because puppies are more playful, they are less likely to have suffered any perceived negative experiences and so are generally less suspicious of potential threats (other dogs) … If you miss the ideal socialization window for puppies, [the process] becomes harder … but never believe it is impossible. Even extreme fear or aggression towards other dogs can be rectified over time with the correct strategy.”

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Academics agree with the professionals. According to a 2015 study by a team of scientists from the School of Psychology and Public Health, La Trobe University, Bendigo, VIC, Australia, since the most common role of a domestic dog in the developed world currently is that of a companion, socialization practices play a large role in the development of well-adjusted canines.

The paper also provides insight into why u/InTheHeightsObsessed’s neighbors were perfectly reasonable. “Dogs that behave in a manner considered to be unacceptable can be a source of resentment and unpleasantness, not only to their owners, but also to the general community, as evidenced by legal regulations aimed at controlling dog behavior,” the researchers pointed out. “Barking, destruction of property, causing traffic hazards by roaming on roads, and posing threats to livestock, wildlife, and humans all impact on community wellbeing and draw heavily on public resources.”

Undesirable behaviors may result in authorities taking a dog to an animal shelter so it’s up to the owner to ensure their companion is thriving and not threatening anyone.

“I would add the woman has no right to ask the neighbor’s children to stay in,” The Dog Guardian said. “It’s her responsibility to build her dog’s confidence with other children as opposed to controlling what other children do – and therefore avoiding addressing the issue making it other people’s problems.”

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Wendy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the first posting I’ve seen here where the OP was actually the A.

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hobbitly
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Make a fence and try to train your dog. And maybe bring a small gift to the neighbors to apologize for your crazy request.

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anarkzie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that this is a pretty open and shut case of someone being an Arsehole.

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Tiny Dog
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is an easy fix if the OP is willing to put in the time. Step 1: Bring dog outside with a clicker and a bag of treats. Step 2: Whenever dog is quiet for 15 seconds, click clicker, say, “Good quiet!” Then give dog treat. Step 3: Increase time to 20 seconds, 30 seconds, 40 seconds, etc. Step 4: Send apology note to neighbors with a gift card to the local ice cream shoppe because you absolutely were the a**hole.

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Raven DeathShade
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My goodness, it's like my neighbors. They told us to keep our cats inside so their dogs won't eat them (nbd, they're inside cats anyway), but they let their dogs roam free around the neighborhood. They've already gotten in our garage, stolen our stuff, and eaten our chickens. Our neighbors return the junk and toss the dying chickens back over the chickens' fence to fend for themselves without telling us they were attacked in the first place. Next time the dog eats our chickens, I will be out there with a rifle. It's been going on too long; we've lost three chickens already.

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Don't Look
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know it’s not really my business but I beg of you if possible to just report the people and then maybe get their dogs taken away?

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Jenn Ryan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If my dogs are outside and start barking at the neighbors (doesn't happen all the time, but I do have a sassy pittie who sometimes tries to get away with it), I bring them inside. Because my neighbors should be able to enjoy their yard in peace. How asinine would it be if I asked them to go in the house because my dog barks at them? Purely ridiculous.

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Don't Look
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1. Train your dog. 2. Get a fence. 3. Google asshole. Google inconsiderate. They should have similarities.

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Carol Emory
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First, one way to get your dog to stop barking at the neighbors is to introduce them and let the kids play with him. If the dog understands they aren't a threat, he will most likely stop barking. Second, your neighbor is right...you need to get the dog trained to "leave it." Please don't be a typical lazy dog owner. Take the time to properly train your pet. It will make everyone happier...including the dog.

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Faith Hurst
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have two barking dogs. Out of 6, so not bad! But these two are rescues and they are very anxious and have a history I can only guess by the scars they had when we got them. They bark at everything and training we've done for their anxiety has given them, and us, tools to calm them. They still bark a lot. And we still calm them. Because of this and because we live in a national forest and it isn't quite safe, we don't put them out alone and we take them in if they cannot be calmed. We don't have a lot of neighbors but one of them has 4 kids there about half of the time. If Sally and Dr. Finkelstein can't be calmed and soothed when they are playing outside, then we take them inside. It's not hard.

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MoodyBlue
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never seen here in BP such a clear case of the OP being complete a**hole.

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OhForSmegSake
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA, this dog is in an adjustment period and needs to get used to the sound of the kids next door. Having said that maybe the kids could be a little quieter? Or, thendog and kids could meet on the street (dog on lead) and the kids could give it treats so that it associates their voices with positive things? One great thing my dad taught me was if there's a protective barking dog you have to pass by often or live next to, don't yell at it and don't make loud noises. Just talk to it calmly and go about you business. My neighbours adopted a dog who would go bananas everytime I went outside my back door, so I started talking to her. It took about a month but now she just gives one woof, I say hello, and she's quiet.

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Lady Vader
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People like this are legit the reason I left my apartment and moved into a van. I couldn't stomach the thought of paying so much for housing when my neighbors' dogs literally barked incessantly, got loose and pooped everywhere and were generally pains in the butt. NONE of my neighbors took accountability and one went as far as telling me to move to a monastery (I'm a woman) if I wanted a quiet place to live. I ended up getting out of my lease early and building out a luxury van. I'm much happier because now if I don't like my neighbors or their dogs, I can literally drive my entire house someplace else. Also, this is a good way to get your dog put down if anyone ever complains about it being aggressive towards children.

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Tara Ray
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this a joke? Someone can’t actually be that stupid and entitled!

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CP
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A stupid person wouldn't question if they were wrong. Perhaps she was raised incorrectly. Her trying to expand her knowledge by asking this question does not make her stupid. She it totally entitled though.

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is the *sshole, and the dog needs to be restrained, trained, or removed. The end.

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Deborah B
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definately TA. Bring your dog inside when the kids are playing, or train it not to bark. How entitled do you have to be to try and restrict your neighbours children from playing in their own back yard?

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Id row
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We are in such an entitlement epidemic that stuff like this keeps happening more and more. Too many people out there thinks they're the only ones that matter. It's a shame there's no vaccine for that.

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AspieGirl88
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah ... if you have a dog that barks at people & you live next door to a couple with kids, why should they ration their children’s outdoor play time for a dog that isn’t being corrected for negative behaviour? I myself have a chihuahua who likes to bark a lot. We don’t mind, just as long as she isn’t barking at people (since lots of dogs bark at cats, birds & just the sound of other dogs). But as soon as she barks at someone going past our fence, we bring her indoors. Why doesn’t the neighbour do that with her dog? It’s not as though these kids will be in their yard all day long, because they would eventually need to eat, drink, use the bathroom or rest/relax indoors (plus they’re not going to expose themselves to sunlight for hours on end, unless they want serious burns/dehydration)! Just let the dog out when the kids aren’t there & call him back when they go outside again. Not that big of a deal. 🤷‍♀️

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My old neighbors dogs barked all the time I just tuned it out. After having my daughter I got really good at tuning out and having a lot of patience.

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qwerty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of my neighbors has this huge Great Dane that barks at me whenever I walk by their house. I actually step off the sidewalk, because if I don't I get scared he's gonna jump over the fence. It's just paranoia, I'm sure, but it's never a good experience.

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Joe Reaves
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Assuming the dog is safe around children (which most pitbulls are, they tend to love kids) and assuming the kids aren's assholes who would torment him I'd have asked the neighbours if their kids could come over and make friends with my dog so he doesn't bark at them or if my dog can have a playdate with the kids (wear out kids and dog, win win situation). He's either barking because he considers them strangers or because he wants to play with them and there's a fence.

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Cynthia Bonville
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Secret sauce, children are PEOPLE, dogs are possessions without the inherit rights of personhood... Do not try to level that field, it is unconscionable - dogs simply are not children.

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Libstak
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just wow, entitled doesn't even begin to cover this. This woman is a nut job.

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Holes2Heaven
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow! You think your dog is more important than children?!? Try training him, or take him to a trainer! Think really pisses me off! He's an animal for crying out loud! Get a clue both of you!!!!!!!!!!

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Emy Loves
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh your the A**hole alright OP. If your dog is that important, do one of two things before you move: train him or buy a place that's suitable to your dog....aka no neighbors. Don't expect other people trying to live their lives to bend over backwards for you and your pooch, whom they care nothing about.

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Beatrice Multhaupt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, one more thing: when my mother bought an Anatolian to guard her goats, she insisted that no training was necessary because human interference would weaken the dog's bond with his herd. But doggie was bored, very bored. One day, the neighbor's 4-year-old came down the street on her bicycle. Doggo jumped the fence like a gazelle and went after the kid who ran toward me for help. A flash of intuition prompted me to shout, ''NO!!!'' , whereupon the dog sat, cocked his head and gave me this look, ''What now, master?'' . Thank god, he had been trained by a previous owner!!! A week later, he attacked and ate one of Mom's prize goats and she gave Doggo to the owner of a used car lot, bought another dog and cried her eyes out when he got hit by a car while wandering down the range. People, if i can train my cat to understand the meaning of ''No'', do the same for your dog. That Pitbull might very well start seeing the neighbors kids a menace (they upset you, right?) and attack them.

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helloyou
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have a dog that used to be like this. After extensive training (for the dog, not the kids) everyone gets along just fine! At no point did we think to ask our neighbour not to use their gardens!

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Sonia Bailey
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ridiculous. My neighbour had dogs that barked whenever we went out in the garden. The owner would bring them inside whenever we were in a garden, without being asked, because she was a good neighbour. Unlike this entitled asshat.

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Hollysmom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You need to get some expert socialization and impulse control training for your dog or move to the country. Your neighbors are correct. I love dogs but, the need proper training.

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Keerthi Vardhan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks like dog and the owner aren't into the world yet. Sometimes before asking neighbours it's worth reversing the roles and ask themselves the se question to see if it sounds reasonable.

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Lenka Smetanová
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

made a good fence, if you are affraind he would jum over, then mabye for this certain time put him on long rope or chain... After some time, the dog should get use to those kids and start to ignore them.

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Mica Silvia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the love of G ..Please can we stop the *this* at the beginning of comments ..it's frigging obvious you agree .. just say you do and move on .. such a pet peeve that.

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Callum McLeod
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought it was the dog owners' yard & the children were intruding on it

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Hecate DeMort
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it was 'could they keep the kids inside for a hour or so a day so we can train the dog without distractions' my opinion would be different but it's a AH for OP.

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Michigan Guy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

michigan man? my dad moved us up....back to michigan...oscoda. 1965, early spring. i joined kindergarten when we got up there. there were three houses...all of them, including ours, rentals. pry...a hundred yards back...off of US 23. that's a two lane federal highway, and back then, the speed limit was 65mph. the bus would pull off on the shoulder. lake huron side, the bus door was. so you get off...walk to the double yellow line...look up...and if she was right, she'd wave you across.

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Michigan Guy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

but....dogs? ahhhh, yes. seee...i'm not quite five yet when we move up there. and both of those rental houses? have f*****g dogs. i mean...mean ass god damn them dogs. and guys, i like dogs.

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Persp Gold
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is the wife referred to as him or did we miss a section of the post?

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doggo-is-fren
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My dog is spoiled, This is just human entitlement. Get a long line and train your dog (it isn't that difficult)

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Calypso poet
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom complains that the neighbors dogs, each side, bark non stop when she goes outside even though the dogs are inside, so she can't sit outside. The one house is tiny had has 4 dogs, 2 Pitt bulls. I told her if she stays outside they will get sick of hearing the dogs bark constantly. They don't have a fence so the can't let them out because they've already had the police out for loose dogs. They busted out the screen window.

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Val Izhakevich
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reached 'their kids have every right" and "you have a duty to train" and stopped. That's it. In today's terms it's about all sides reconciliating the conflicting and mostly unfounded entitlement feelings. Too many people confident having network connection and being connected via social networks replaces the brain.

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Yili Lai
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm confused as to why her and her husbands age and sex was relevant hefe

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K. Anderson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Best bet would be to ask the kids to use them to help you train the dog

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Grungy Gecko
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

probably from r/childfree (on reddit) i think childless adults are fine, but that subreddit is toxic

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Mazer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not a hard fix. I’m referring to the dog not the people they are a hard fix

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Mieke
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Live in an apartment? DONT GET A DOG TILL U CAN GIVE IT A YARD!!! It's cruel to have to crate your dog during the day! My dogs run free all day, I have a big garden. I bought the house specifically for that garden for my dogs!!!

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Beatrice Multhaupt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait...this dog isn't spoiled, he's neglected. All dogs are genetically programmed to play ''follow the leader'' because they're pack animals. So you're not providing your pet with exercise by letting him run around the yard. Very SMALL dogs require two half-hour walks per day; large, active animals need up to three hours. If your dog isn,t following you, recognizing you as the one who is in control, he will, albeit reluctantly, try to take control on his own. Disaster will ensue. Please read Cesar Millan,s excellent book on the subject and get a dog trainer. You don't know what to do on your own or you wouldn,t be in this situation.

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snipergun
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let the dog bark, it's not a cat, can't meow. If he lived in apartment this is all new for him and of course he will bark with any sound and movement as he didn't have that before. I went through same with my Stafford. First it's constant barking. You don't want to prevent it completely but you want to reward your dog when he ignores some sounds. Or hang dog treats on outside fence with note, that your dog is learning to be in garden and kids can throw him snacks so he doesn't feel threatened. Eventually your dog will stop reacting to every sound and only pick on unknown people walking / driving around. And again, it's dog, it's his nature to bark,unless he's really nervous, let him bark sometimes.

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Mumchkin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP needs to think about how it would feel for it to be the other way around.

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Julie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is very important that you make amends with your neighbor. They might end up being your best friends, or your worst enemy. You must choose which. As for your dog, there are a plethora of choices to make his outside experience good, and it is all up to you to figure out how.

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Lori Harris
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let him play with the kids, that's what he's asking for and why pit bulls got the nickname "Nanny Dog."

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chrissy goodman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ok i can understand both sides. however im siding with the neighbors. the OP just wants her dog to enjoy its first time having a yard and the kids r causing it to freak out and bark i understand that. the thing is u can train a dog to not bark at everything also even playing with the dog will distract it and it will b much happier then u just letting it out to run around. not to mention ur neighbors have lived there lomger then u so even the childish route aka we were here first makes sense. i love dogs id want mine to enjoy a yard for the first time too. my dog barks all the time only reason we put her inside is if shes barking wen our neighbor is outside with their baby. she scares the baby and we dont want the kid to grow up thinking theres a scary dog next door. turns out they felt bad about my dog having to go in and play with their baby in the front yard so our dog is free to run around wenever. they even give us a heads up wen they r having company and having a backyard party. they also tell their guests about our dog and that she may bark loud but shes harmless. flat out telling ur neighbors to control their kids for ur dog is wrong. our neighbors kno our dog is skiddish and doesnt like strangers on or near the property they had a dog just like that before they moved next door to us. my dog will bark wen they have their parties but she stops once she realizes they arent coming here so as long as we kno that she doesnt annoy them its fine. if she does they tell us and we put her inside its not a big deal. i dont understand y this woman cares so much about her dog barking its part of who they r and if the neighbor didnt complain then she shouldve never said anything in the first place. it just sounds like shes annoyed by the dogs barking. dogs bark get over it. or dont get a dog if u dont like the barking. a dog not barking is scary they express themselves with sounds tail wags and ear movements

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Josh Schrank
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Despite what Frost says, in this case good fences do make good neighbors. Ms. Entitled should consider being a good neighbor.

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cassiushumanmother
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fences are not the pb, dogs ear sounds but they must be trained. Mine do not like children, those tiny humans behave like drunk people which he hates too lol. Whenever i'm at my mother's place, inside, he can see tiny heads bouncing loudly over the fence at the window because of a trampoline in the neighbors garden. I just ask him to stop growling or barking, they have the right to play and behave like drunks, they are kids, that's the purpose of childhood. Once he was growling at the end of the street, i thought that he saw a cat or something, but actually when i was in front of the house i saw that the kids were jumping on the trampoline, he heard it from very far. In this case a fence won't solve the pb but a good training will.

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Esther (she/her)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

now this is the first time i see a yta here lol every aita ive seen on boredpanda got nta

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凜린Kat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

DISAGREE. If it is an agreed upon 30 minutes, same time, every day PLUS dog training. Neighbors ATA for not willing to agree to a reasonable compromise that would benefit both in the long term future.

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Benjamin Tang
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, this is what I can gather by reading the post. The OP and the neighbor both has a yard each? The OP keeps the dog on her yard at all times? If so, then I must side with the OP. She can put her dog on her yard whenever she wants. If its the case of them sharing the yard, then of course the OP is at fault.

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that one Harry Potter girl
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the issue is not when can she out her dogs outside, but she's telling the neighbor to keep their own kids inside, not to go in their own yard, because the dog barks and is untrained

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Stille20
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What is the obsession with neighbor disputes?

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Wendy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the first posting I’ve seen here where the OP was actually the A.

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hobbitly
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Make a fence and try to train your dog. And maybe bring a small gift to the neighbors to apologize for your crazy request.

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anarkzie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that this is a pretty open and shut case of someone being an Arsehole.

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Tiny Dog
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is an easy fix if the OP is willing to put in the time. Step 1: Bring dog outside with a clicker and a bag of treats. Step 2: Whenever dog is quiet for 15 seconds, click clicker, say, “Good quiet!” Then give dog treat. Step 3: Increase time to 20 seconds, 30 seconds, 40 seconds, etc. Step 4: Send apology note to neighbors with a gift card to the local ice cream shoppe because you absolutely were the a**hole.

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Raven DeathShade
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My goodness, it's like my neighbors. They told us to keep our cats inside so their dogs won't eat them (nbd, they're inside cats anyway), but they let their dogs roam free around the neighborhood. They've already gotten in our garage, stolen our stuff, and eaten our chickens. Our neighbors return the junk and toss the dying chickens back over the chickens' fence to fend for themselves without telling us they were attacked in the first place. Next time the dog eats our chickens, I will be out there with a rifle. It's been going on too long; we've lost three chickens already.

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Don't Look
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know it’s not really my business but I beg of you if possible to just report the people and then maybe get their dogs taken away?

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Jenn Ryan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If my dogs are outside and start barking at the neighbors (doesn't happen all the time, but I do have a sassy pittie who sometimes tries to get away with it), I bring them inside. Because my neighbors should be able to enjoy their yard in peace. How asinine would it be if I asked them to go in the house because my dog barks at them? Purely ridiculous.

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Don't Look
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1. Train your dog. 2. Get a fence. 3. Google asshole. Google inconsiderate. They should have similarities.

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Carol Emory
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First, one way to get your dog to stop barking at the neighbors is to introduce them and let the kids play with him. If the dog understands they aren't a threat, he will most likely stop barking. Second, your neighbor is right...you need to get the dog trained to "leave it." Please don't be a typical lazy dog owner. Take the time to properly train your pet. It will make everyone happier...including the dog.

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Faith Hurst
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have two barking dogs. Out of 6, so not bad! But these two are rescues and they are very anxious and have a history I can only guess by the scars they had when we got them. They bark at everything and training we've done for their anxiety has given them, and us, tools to calm them. They still bark a lot. And we still calm them. Because of this and because we live in a national forest and it isn't quite safe, we don't put them out alone and we take them in if they cannot be calmed. We don't have a lot of neighbors but one of them has 4 kids there about half of the time. If Sally and Dr. Finkelstein can't be calmed and soothed when they are playing outside, then we take them inside. It's not hard.

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MoodyBlue
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never seen here in BP such a clear case of the OP being complete a**hole.

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OhForSmegSake
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA, this dog is in an adjustment period and needs to get used to the sound of the kids next door. Having said that maybe the kids could be a little quieter? Or, thendog and kids could meet on the street (dog on lead) and the kids could give it treats so that it associates their voices with positive things? One great thing my dad taught me was if there's a protective barking dog you have to pass by often or live next to, don't yell at it and don't make loud noises. Just talk to it calmly and go about you business. My neighbours adopted a dog who would go bananas everytime I went outside my back door, so I started talking to her. It took about a month but now she just gives one woof, I say hello, and she's quiet.

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Lady Vader
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People like this are legit the reason I left my apartment and moved into a van. I couldn't stomach the thought of paying so much for housing when my neighbors' dogs literally barked incessantly, got loose and pooped everywhere and were generally pains in the butt. NONE of my neighbors took accountability and one went as far as telling me to move to a monastery (I'm a woman) if I wanted a quiet place to live. I ended up getting out of my lease early and building out a luxury van. I'm much happier because now if I don't like my neighbors or their dogs, I can literally drive my entire house someplace else. Also, this is a good way to get your dog put down if anyone ever complains about it being aggressive towards children.

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Tara Ray
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this a joke? Someone can’t actually be that stupid and entitled!

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CP
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A stupid person wouldn't question if they were wrong. Perhaps she was raised incorrectly. Her trying to expand her knowledge by asking this question does not make her stupid. She it totally entitled though.

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is the *sshole, and the dog needs to be restrained, trained, or removed. The end.

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Deborah B
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definately TA. Bring your dog inside when the kids are playing, or train it not to bark. How entitled do you have to be to try and restrict your neighbours children from playing in their own back yard?

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Id row
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We are in such an entitlement epidemic that stuff like this keeps happening more and more. Too many people out there thinks they're the only ones that matter. It's a shame there's no vaccine for that.

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AspieGirl88
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah ... if you have a dog that barks at people & you live next door to a couple with kids, why should they ration their children’s outdoor play time for a dog that isn’t being corrected for negative behaviour? I myself have a chihuahua who likes to bark a lot. We don’t mind, just as long as she isn’t barking at people (since lots of dogs bark at cats, birds & just the sound of other dogs). But as soon as she barks at someone going past our fence, we bring her indoors. Why doesn’t the neighbour do that with her dog? It’s not as though these kids will be in their yard all day long, because they would eventually need to eat, drink, use the bathroom or rest/relax indoors (plus they’re not going to expose themselves to sunlight for hours on end, unless they want serious burns/dehydration)! Just let the dog out when the kids aren’t there & call him back when they go outside again. Not that big of a deal. 🤷‍♀️

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My old neighbors dogs barked all the time I just tuned it out. After having my daughter I got really good at tuning out and having a lot of patience.

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qwerty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of my neighbors has this huge Great Dane that barks at me whenever I walk by their house. I actually step off the sidewalk, because if I don't I get scared he's gonna jump over the fence. It's just paranoia, I'm sure, but it's never a good experience.

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Joe Reaves
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Assuming the dog is safe around children (which most pitbulls are, they tend to love kids) and assuming the kids aren's assholes who would torment him I'd have asked the neighbours if their kids could come over and make friends with my dog so he doesn't bark at them or if my dog can have a playdate with the kids (wear out kids and dog, win win situation). He's either barking because he considers them strangers or because he wants to play with them and there's a fence.

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Cynthia Bonville
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Secret sauce, children are PEOPLE, dogs are possessions without the inherit rights of personhood... Do not try to level that field, it is unconscionable - dogs simply are not children.

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Libstak
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just wow, entitled doesn't even begin to cover this. This woman is a nut job.

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Holes2Heaven
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow! You think your dog is more important than children?!? Try training him, or take him to a trainer! Think really pisses me off! He's an animal for crying out loud! Get a clue both of you!!!!!!!!!!

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Emy Loves
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh your the A**hole alright OP. If your dog is that important, do one of two things before you move: train him or buy a place that's suitable to your dog....aka no neighbors. Don't expect other people trying to live their lives to bend over backwards for you and your pooch, whom they care nothing about.

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Beatrice Multhaupt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, one more thing: when my mother bought an Anatolian to guard her goats, she insisted that no training was necessary because human interference would weaken the dog's bond with his herd. But doggie was bored, very bored. One day, the neighbor's 4-year-old came down the street on her bicycle. Doggo jumped the fence like a gazelle and went after the kid who ran toward me for help. A flash of intuition prompted me to shout, ''NO!!!'' , whereupon the dog sat, cocked his head and gave me this look, ''What now, master?'' . Thank god, he had been trained by a previous owner!!! A week later, he attacked and ate one of Mom's prize goats and she gave Doggo to the owner of a used car lot, bought another dog and cried her eyes out when he got hit by a car while wandering down the range. People, if i can train my cat to understand the meaning of ''No'', do the same for your dog. That Pitbull might very well start seeing the neighbors kids a menace (they upset you, right?) and attack them.

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helloyou
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have a dog that used to be like this. After extensive training (for the dog, not the kids) everyone gets along just fine! At no point did we think to ask our neighbour not to use their gardens!

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Sonia Bailey
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ridiculous. My neighbour had dogs that barked whenever we went out in the garden. The owner would bring them inside whenever we were in a garden, without being asked, because she was a good neighbour. Unlike this entitled asshat.

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Hollysmom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You need to get some expert socialization and impulse control training for your dog or move to the country. Your neighbors are correct. I love dogs but, the need proper training.

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Keerthi Vardhan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks like dog and the owner aren't into the world yet. Sometimes before asking neighbours it's worth reversing the roles and ask themselves the se question to see if it sounds reasonable.

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Lenka Smetanová
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

made a good fence, if you are affraind he would jum over, then mabye for this certain time put him on long rope or chain... After some time, the dog should get use to those kids and start to ignore them.

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Mica Silvia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the love of G ..Please can we stop the *this* at the beginning of comments ..it's frigging obvious you agree .. just say you do and move on .. such a pet peeve that.

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Callum McLeod
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought it was the dog owners' yard & the children were intruding on it

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Hecate DeMort
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it was 'could they keep the kids inside for a hour or so a day so we can train the dog without distractions' my opinion would be different but it's a AH for OP.

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Michigan Guy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

michigan man? my dad moved us up....back to michigan...oscoda. 1965, early spring. i joined kindergarten when we got up there. there were three houses...all of them, including ours, rentals. pry...a hundred yards back...off of US 23. that's a two lane federal highway, and back then, the speed limit was 65mph. the bus would pull off on the shoulder. lake huron side, the bus door was. so you get off...walk to the double yellow line...look up...and if she was right, she'd wave you across.

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Michigan Guy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

but....dogs? ahhhh, yes. seee...i'm not quite five yet when we move up there. and both of those rental houses? have f*****g dogs. i mean...mean ass god damn them dogs. and guys, i like dogs.

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Persp Gold
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is the wife referred to as him or did we miss a section of the post?

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doggo-is-fren
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My dog is spoiled, This is just human entitlement. Get a long line and train your dog (it isn't that difficult)

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Calypso poet
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom complains that the neighbors dogs, each side, bark non stop when she goes outside even though the dogs are inside, so she can't sit outside. The one house is tiny had has 4 dogs, 2 Pitt bulls. I told her if she stays outside they will get sick of hearing the dogs bark constantly. They don't have a fence so the can't let them out because they've already had the police out for loose dogs. They busted out the screen window.

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Val Izhakevich
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reached 'their kids have every right" and "you have a duty to train" and stopped. That's it. In today's terms it's about all sides reconciliating the conflicting and mostly unfounded entitlement feelings. Too many people confident having network connection and being connected via social networks replaces the brain.

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Yili Lai
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm confused as to why her and her husbands age and sex was relevant hefe

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K. Anderson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Best bet would be to ask the kids to use them to help you train the dog

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Grungy Gecko
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

probably from r/childfree (on reddit) i think childless adults are fine, but that subreddit is toxic

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Mazer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not a hard fix. I’m referring to the dog not the people they are a hard fix

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Mieke
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Live in an apartment? DONT GET A DOG TILL U CAN GIVE IT A YARD!!! It's cruel to have to crate your dog during the day! My dogs run free all day, I have a big garden. I bought the house specifically for that garden for my dogs!!!

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Beatrice Multhaupt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait...this dog isn't spoiled, he's neglected. All dogs are genetically programmed to play ''follow the leader'' because they're pack animals. So you're not providing your pet with exercise by letting him run around the yard. Very SMALL dogs require two half-hour walks per day; large, active animals need up to three hours. If your dog isn,t following you, recognizing you as the one who is in control, he will, albeit reluctantly, try to take control on his own. Disaster will ensue. Please read Cesar Millan,s excellent book on the subject and get a dog trainer. You don't know what to do on your own or you wouldn,t be in this situation.

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snipergun
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let the dog bark, it's not a cat, can't meow. If he lived in apartment this is all new for him and of course he will bark with any sound and movement as he didn't have that before. I went through same with my Stafford. First it's constant barking. You don't want to prevent it completely but you want to reward your dog when he ignores some sounds. Or hang dog treats on outside fence with note, that your dog is learning to be in garden and kids can throw him snacks so he doesn't feel threatened. Eventually your dog will stop reacting to every sound and only pick on unknown people walking / driving around. And again, it's dog, it's his nature to bark,unless he's really nervous, let him bark sometimes.

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Mumchkin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP needs to think about how it would feel for it to be the other way around.

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Julie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is very important that you make amends with your neighbor. They might end up being your best friends, or your worst enemy. You must choose which. As for your dog, there are a plethora of choices to make his outside experience good, and it is all up to you to figure out how.

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Lori Harris
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let him play with the kids, that's what he's asking for and why pit bulls got the nickname "Nanny Dog."

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chrissy goodman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ok i can understand both sides. however im siding with the neighbors. the OP just wants her dog to enjoy its first time having a yard and the kids r causing it to freak out and bark i understand that. the thing is u can train a dog to not bark at everything also even playing with the dog will distract it and it will b much happier then u just letting it out to run around. not to mention ur neighbors have lived there lomger then u so even the childish route aka we were here first makes sense. i love dogs id want mine to enjoy a yard for the first time too. my dog barks all the time only reason we put her inside is if shes barking wen our neighbor is outside with their baby. she scares the baby and we dont want the kid to grow up thinking theres a scary dog next door. turns out they felt bad about my dog having to go in and play with their baby in the front yard so our dog is free to run around wenever. they even give us a heads up wen they r having company and having a backyard party. they also tell their guests about our dog and that she may bark loud but shes harmless. flat out telling ur neighbors to control their kids for ur dog is wrong. our neighbors kno our dog is skiddish and doesnt like strangers on or near the property they had a dog just like that before they moved next door to us. my dog will bark wen they have their parties but she stops once she realizes they arent coming here so as long as we kno that she doesnt annoy them its fine. if she does they tell us and we put her inside its not a big deal. i dont understand y this woman cares so much about her dog barking its part of who they r and if the neighbor didnt complain then she shouldve never said anything in the first place. it just sounds like shes annoyed by the dogs barking. dogs bark get over it. or dont get a dog if u dont like the barking. a dog not barking is scary they express themselves with sounds tail wags and ear movements

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Josh Schrank
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Despite what Frost says, in this case good fences do make good neighbors. Ms. Entitled should consider being a good neighbor.

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cassiushumanmother
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fences are not the pb, dogs ear sounds but they must be trained. Mine do not like children, those tiny humans behave like drunk people which he hates too lol. Whenever i'm at my mother's place, inside, he can see tiny heads bouncing loudly over the fence at the window because of a trampoline in the neighbors garden. I just ask him to stop growling or barking, they have the right to play and behave like drunks, they are kids, that's the purpose of childhood. Once he was growling at the end of the street, i thought that he saw a cat or something, but actually when i was in front of the house i saw that the kids were jumping on the trampoline, he heard it from very far. In this case a fence won't solve the pb but a good training will.

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Esther (she/her)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

now this is the first time i see a yta here lol every aita ive seen on boredpanda got nta

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凜린Kat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

DISAGREE. If it is an agreed upon 30 minutes, same time, every day PLUS dog training. Neighbors ATA for not willing to agree to a reasonable compromise that would benefit both in the long term future.

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Benjamin Tang
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, this is what I can gather by reading the post. The OP and the neighbor both has a yard each? The OP keeps the dog on her yard at all times? If so, then I must side with the OP. She can put her dog on her yard whenever she wants. If its the case of them sharing the yard, then of course the OP is at fault.

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that one Harry Potter girl
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the issue is not when can she out her dogs outside, but she's telling the neighbor to keep their own kids inside, not to go in their own yard, because the dog barks and is untrained

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What is the obsession with neighbor disputes?

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