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Restaurant Guests Tip $7, Are Chased Out The Door By Angry Server
Restaurant Guests Tip $7, Are Chased Out The Door By Angry Server
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Restaurant Guests Tip $7, Are Chased Out The Door By Angry Server

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Tipping culture varies from country to country. In Japan, offering gratuity is uncommon and often done discreetly. On the other hand, tipping is optional in places like Germany, Portugal, Ireland, and the UK because a service charge is sometimes included. The acceptable tipping percentage in these countries is between 5 and 10%.

In the United States, service industry employees rely on the 20% tips they receive. Anything lower could make them question whether the customers weren’t happy with the job they did or cause them to react aggressively.

A family experienced the latter when the mom, visiting from overseas, paid below the standard tipping amount. It caused quite a scene with the server chasing them down as they left. Read the entire story below.

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    In the United States, restaurant waitstaff rely on the 20% tips they receive

    Waiter carrying a tray in a busy cafe, looking serious, possibly due to a low tip.

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    A family that gave less than 10% got confronted by their server, who followed them and asked for more

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    Waiter followed group to door asking for more tip after dissatisfaction with initial amount.

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    It caught them off guard, as the mom quickly learned about the tipping culture in the US

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    Text about tipping, expressing embarrassment over a small tip and apologizing.

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    “Guilt tipping” has become a recent trend among Americans

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    If you live in the US and have noticed a shift in tipping trends, you’re not alone. A 2023 survey by LendingTree found that 60% of Americans believe they are tipping more than before.

    41% admitted to changing their purchasing habits because of tipping expectations, while 60% believe the trends have gotten out of control. Here’s the kicker: 24% say they “always feel pressured” when the option is there.

    Experts refer to the anxiety and stress caused by gratuity as “guilt tipping.” As LendingTree’s chief credit analyst Matt Schulz tells CNBC Make It, consumers are “getting increasingly tired” of it.

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    “People don’t want to feel like a jerk or cheapskate. Businesses are taking advantage of that,” he explained.

    Schulz adds that “bigger-than-usual tips” have become the default option in payment terminals, leaving consumers with almost no choice but to comply.

    Other experts like Georgetown University economist Harry Holzer believe it’s an employer’s sneaky practice to pay their staff low wages.

    “The whole thing is shifted onto the customer,” Holzer said. “It’s less expensive for [restaurant owners] to hire people.”

    According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, waitstaff in the United States earn an average hourly wage of $8.94. Unfortunately, it isn’t expected to change anytime soon. 

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    “Maybe tipping is so culturally ingrained in our country that it will never completely go away, but not leaving a tip isn’t going to make it better,” former food service industry professional turned media personality Darron Cardosa wrote in an article for Food & Wine

    The server’s sentiments were understandable. Fortunately, the family gave him his due tip, despite his reaction.

    Some commenters called out the story’s author

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    However, others believe that tipping customs in the US are getting out of hand

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    Others shared similar experiences

    Waiter follows couple to the door over disagreement about tip at Four Seasons, New York.

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    Text about a tipping dispute with a NY cab driver demanding more after receiving a 10% tip.

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    Customer describing poor service experience after not tipping enough.

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    Customer shares story about waiter following them after not tipping enough.

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    Text comment discussing a delivery driver with a similar tipping issue.

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    Hi there! I am a Visual Editor at Bored Panda. My job is to ensure that all the articles are aesthetically pleasing. I get to work with a variety of topics ranging from all the relationship drama to lots and lots of memes and, my personal favorites, funny cute cats. When I am not perfecting the images, you can find me reading with a cup of matcha latte and a cat in my lap, taking photos (of my cat), getting lost in the forest, or simply cuddling with my cat... Did I mention that I love cats?

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    Orysha
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pay your staff living wages, if you can't or don't want to you shouldn't run a business. Mandatory tipping culture is insane.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every time I consider going to the States, I read this kind of thing and start looking at Europe again.

    Susie Elle
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes it's rude to leave less than a 10% tip in the US, and apparently you can then be expected to be harrassed out the door. Sure, read up on and adhere to other country's cultural things. On the other hand, expecting 20% tip is pushing the boundaries of what you can consider to be normal, and it's real f*****g weird to follow people out the restaurant.

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    Neea P
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the waiter was way out of line. That kind of rudeness should not be rewarded.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many moons ago I waited tables. Some people don't tip. That's the deal. You just go to the next table. Chasing someone down was just not done.

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    Robert T
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The rudeness and arrogance of this galls me. It is not up to the customer to make up your wages. That is the responsibility of your employer. Tips are given for exceptional service, not merely doing your job. A mandatory service charge is NOT a tip! America needs to learn this and change the way they price things in restaurants. Brushing it off as your culture is just stupid. Employees need to know how much they are going to take home at the end of the week.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I keep telling everybody who will listen to just stop with the mandatory tipping. Go back to the day that you gave 10% for good service, or nothing. Then waiters will make a stink, and it won't be about "people don't tip enough". It will be "my boss won't give me a living wage" like the rest of us plebs. Why should they get special treatment for writing down my exact words on a little notepad and carrying it 25' to someone who does the real work?

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    Gabriel Camomescro
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1) I refuse to be guilt-tripped into adding to already expensive meal costs because an employer cannot be bothered to pay a fair wage. 2) Tips are optional, and if they want mandatory "tips" then add a service charge. 3) Follow me out the door and make sure you get a good look because I will not be back. That is unacceptably aggressive behaviour, bordering on stalking.

    madeleine f
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone said 'Don't go out eating if you not prepared to tip 20%'. I would say 'Don't run a business if you cannot afford to pay your staff a decent wage.' And if people who don't pay 20% tip stopped going out, staff and restaurants would have even less money. Stop making your guests feeling uncomfortable and be grateful they visited your restaurant.

    Earonn -
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also: "If you're not happy with your wage, take it out on your employer, not your customer".

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    Virgil Blue
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its nuts how Americans themselves defend that toxic tipping culture. Don't they get that's it's, at this point, a scheme to keep them horribly underpaid and insecure? Just because it seems that customers love holding tips over the heads of servers? And don't give me "it's needed to ensure good service". In Europe we generally have excellent service. Maybe because we generally treat staff as humans and not as servants.

    Virgil Blue
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Addition: your boss should give you a living wage and tips should be a bonus, not something to make up the difference.

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    Blah Blah Blah
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We're missing the point here. Is it out of control yes, should you abide by the countries customs you're in, yes. BUT... Americans need to stop blaming the customer for our low wages and DEMAND our employer pay us a living wage and that needs to be done so thru our government! Our entire system needs to change.

    R Dennis
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked in restaurants and the food industry my entire working life. I tip well, but absolutely hate how out of control it is... I don't want to tip at a drive-thru, to pick up a carryout, or anywhere I have to do my own service. Pay living wages, pay employees, stop making their daily wage my responsibility.

    marcelo D.
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Americans are so brainwashed into tipping culture created by the restauran owners to keep wages low. No, the waiter doesn't have a right to go and hound the people for more money because he believes that he deserves more (based on what they spent, not on his performance). If he believes his work deserves more money, he can discuss that with his employer, not with the costumers, who are in no way obligated to subsidize the restaurant.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    7 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not that I would set foot in the US again inthese times but the last time I was there we would buy stuff in the supermarket (like salads and sandwiches) and eat outside or in the hotel for precisely those reasons. Eating out in the US is not an enjoyable experience, it's expensive, the tip culture is completely over the top, you can't have a conversation because the waitstaff will keep interrupting and the second you finish your last bite they basically shoo you out.

    Falafal salad
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well no one wants to visit the USA right now anyway so guess this problem will sort itself out.

    Nota Robot
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hand me the $7 back right now, you entitled a*****e

    Emilu
    Community Member
    7 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is grossly unprofessional. Having said that, I'd personally read up on the tipping culture and be prepared before I dine out in a foreign country, but even still. Begging for extra money? Tacky in the extreme. Pay your staff properly and don't expect them to rely on customers' good graces.

    Rafael
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wouldn't surprise me considering that even the Ferengi would look at the US and say "dude, tone it down..."

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    Michelle C
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I tip what is deserved based on the service I get..just because you brought me my food doesn't mean you automatically get 15-20%. I also see it when I pick up a takeout order!!! You're not serving me, do I get a tip for delivering my food to myself...another thing I'm noticing is a tipping page at retailers. I picked out my own clothes and am buying them and you want a tip too. I just love how the cashier stares at me when I get to that screen and I hit zero...it's clothes, nobody helped me.

    Fellfromthemoon
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Americans: If you come here, and want to eat, pay a huge tip! Why can't we get a glass of water in a German restaurant? Europeans: The business owner shall carry the brunt of the risk, not the employees. The owner must pay a living wage. Tipping is nice, but optional. The largest margin is on the drinks.

    Betsy S
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not just "getting out of control". It's disgusting. If you can't afford to pay your staff a living wage, your business plan is WRONG! Pay YOUR staff. It's not your customer's responsibility to pay your staff any more than I'd be responsible for paying the cashier's wages at a grocery store. Your cheapskateness does not become my problem. Tipping is gross and an insult to every customer that walks through your door. That business model needs to be made illegal.

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For God's sake! A tip is not for someone who simply does his or her job; it's for service above and beyond. A customer should not hav,e to pay a waiter's wage: an employer gets to do that. Pay your staff a liveable wage so they don't depend on tips. Why should a customer be held responsible when it's the employer who's exploiting the staff? If a tip is mandatory, just raise your price, don't pretend a tip is a voluntary thing.

    White Sauce Hot Sauce
    Community Member
    7 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it's a mandatory charge, the restaurant should add it to the bill.

    For All Pedernity
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We were chased by a server in Israel once, screaming we needed to pay more, after leaving the restaurant, for having rounded up and not given an exact ( I believe it was 20 %) tip. But then, nothing about the rudeness of Israelis surprises me...

    h8ptkjsjwf
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Back in the 70's I worked at a gas station while in college. I made minimum wage with NO chance for more. I would pump the gas, check the oil, wash the windows, check tire pressure and add more if needed. I spent MUCH more time serving every customer than almost all waiters/waitresses. I received a single $1 tip in 2 years. I do not feel sorry for them as all make at least minimum wage and many much more.

    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Should have taken the $7 back. It was $7 more than they needed to pay in the first place.

    TheMFKNXerdo
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In some places in my country, the waiters are super scummy and demand tips, become aggressive. I even had some wannabe Casanova HITTING ON MY DATE. Hell no. I tip 10% as is customary in my country, 15% if service is great. These american customs infesting my country are unacceptable. And they were trying to spread it to civilised countries like Japan, too! It is great that this infection has not taken root there yet.

    Joe Bloe
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He prove he didn't deserve the extra tip with his reaction.

    COCO puff
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear America, just grow up! you are ruinning everything with your tarrifs, your underpaid workers/beggers.

    Megan Lacey
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Canada is just as bad with the tip attitude but they make much higher wages. To me this is worse. Service/people are fake. All geared around getting bigger tips. Please just do the job you applied to do or let someone else who needs it have it

    °CORLEONE°
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am the owner of my own money and I am the one to decide how much to tip $0 or 20%. It all depends on how that experience is. It is not my fault that people do not get paid enough. It is all how people grew up and some are born and raised with tipping in their culture.

    walkabout
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At the top michelleanichols commented, “ They pull money out of their own pockets to cover tip out & taxes if 20% is not given.” Is that true?

    Virgil Blue
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know, but have seen it mentioned elsewhere. If so, that's nuts.

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    Sarah
    Community Member
    7 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This really frustrates me . How a country so big believes the lies they are living in a free and wonderful country, taking for granted that the hardworking wait staff depend on tips due to not being paid properly, your govt who are filthy rich is laughing in your faces. Watching you and us( when we visit) being stressed and give money for tips we can’t really afford and watch us all squabble. As they bask in the sidelines with their millions watching us squabble amongst ourselves but doing nothing about it. How has waiting staff salaries/ lack thereof, gone for SO long and no backlash from the American citizens?

    Earonn -
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG, never was in such a situation, but hope I'd be aware enough to just let that person call their boss and I'll discuss their 'tip' with them. Yeah, I get it that the USA let it come to a point where the customer is held more responsible for the staff's wages than the boss - probably because the customer has less power and is the easier target - but hell, you will not harass me on my way out.

    Allison Slagle (Randomosity)
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always tipped based on how good the service was like my parents do and we've never got harassed by a waiter. Do a good job and I'll tip you, but I've gotta make a living too and it's not my fault you get paid below minimum wage.

    Mobey Drunk
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most people who complain about tipping never had to rely on it. Even though I've never called anyone out on it, I look down on them because it's half my income. A lot of people think by not tipping your going to harm the employer, in reality they still get the same money. This is how we pay our bills. We put up with all of your stupid jokes and even harassment. If you don't like tip culture, don't go to a place where tipping is costumary.

    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Since the pandemic, I've always tipped at least 25%, usually more, especially if the meal or the service or both are amazing. And this is especially true of all of my regular haunts where people know me. I want them to appreciate me when I'm there because I absolutely appreciate them. And when I see a server or bartender struggling, I tip more.

    Tyranamar
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You’re part of the problem. 20% for excellent service. 15% for standard. 10% if you’re mad. 25% just sets up unrealistic expectations.

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    Old but wiser
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The mom of the OP was a cheapskate. Businesses really should pay wait staff a higher wage.

    Bahama Mama
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the comments just made me not want to tip anymore! Over 20% in this economy, get out of here!!! Soon only the rich will be the only one's to afford to tip.

    C_galen_b
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are absolutely right: if we can't afford the 20% or 25% or 30% tip they want, we absolutely need to stop eating out. COMPLETELY. Of course, the restaurants will have to close and the servers will lose their job, but IF THEY CAN'T SELL AN AFFORDABLE PRODUCT, THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN BUSINESS.

    Erik Biesemeier
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not just that tipping is stupid, it's also been inflating recently. 15% at a restaurant with a server was the norm for decades. The last 5 years it's expected to pay 20+% and even automated ordering systems will ask for a tip now.

    Flo
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Looking at a lot of the comments up there it is shocking to see that the good ol' US of A managed to delude so many people into thinking it has to be mandatory to give a tip of 20% and more + also the braindead statement of "iF yOu CaN't AfFoRd To TiP dOn'T eAt OuT!". B*tch, if you can't get a job that pays a living wage it's certainly not my fault. Now stfu and get your a*s back on that short bus.

    Devin Schmitt
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whatever happened to the standard of 15%?

    Ms.GB
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I definitely think you should tip but it gets ridiculous to tip 20% when you go out and end up paying like $300 then you have to pay another $60!? That's more than most people make in a hour and those servers have more than one table...they're making bank!

    megabeth
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At a place where you are paying $300 the server has to tip the bartender, food runner and bussers out of that $60. Js

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    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always tip well, but only because I've been conditioned to. But, if it was bad service, I tip less. If a server ever followed me out like that, I'd tell them to get the manager and explain to the manager WHY the server got a bad tip. And then let him/her know that this interaction is going on Yelp tonight. Things are getting to be too expensive nowadays. If these restaurants want to stay open, they'd better come up with a better solution than harassing customers for tips. Tips should be for above and beyond service, not mandatory.

    Ozymandias73
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See...this is what gives other countries a bad taste about tips. I had been a server for many years and any tips I received, I got them because I was good at my job. (And I made quite a bit in tips and various restaurants.) I still make pretty good tips at the casino I work at currently. But this waiter was in the wrong by far! I'm surprised he didn't lose his job! No matter how good of service you may give, sometimes, you just don't get tipped or get less than what you "think" you should've gotten. That's the nature of the beast. Move on.

    Wij
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, another demonstration that the US sucks.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We were once followed out of a restaurant because we had paid the wrong amount. I won't say that waitress had indecipherable hand writing, but she must have been waiting tables to pay her med school tuition.

    Wheeskers
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't have to tip you at all. It's my choice. You have a job, do it. I'll decide what, if any monies you'll receive from me. You're not my judge or the jury.

    Freddy Ricci
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone wants the tipping became mandatory, complain with your beautiful orange POTUS and he'll write asap a law about it.

    Mason Kronol
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have worked in the service industry in the USA since 1988. Nobody confronts a customer like that without getting fired. Yes, I am one of the lucky that made about $2.30 an hour at times so tips were essential. I also didn't want to look like an a$$hat to other customers. You treat everyone with kindness and respect. Also my MIL was very cheap so if we knew she was going to treat us to lunch or dinner, like another commenter said, we had cash on hand and tossed it on the table as mom headed away from the table. She was not only cheap but difficult too. Wow I don't miss her. FIL was a saint, guess that's why he checked out early.

    h8ptkjsjwf
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if a server makes less than the minimum wage the employer is required to add to it to bring it up to the minimum wage. Severs DO NOT average less than minimum wage for a pay period.

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    ADJ
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always tip when I eat out at establishment with waiters. Literally always. However, I would never tip 20% or more, rather rounding 21 to 25, 26 to 30 or 71 to 80. If what happened to OP happened to me, this establishment would be put on NO-GO list.

    Liserhawkie80
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, tipping culture is getting out of control. But, it's always been the norm for waitstaff. We aren't talking about a mechanic asking for a tip here. I've been out to eat with my grandparents back in the day and my grandma was a MAJOR cheapskate. I always ended up leaving the tip because she refused. Should the restaurant pay living wages? Of course, but until they do we need to tip.

    Jack Sonol
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If we continue tipping, nothing will ever change.

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    Anony Mouse
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh hooray! Another pointless and circular debate about tipping culture that will go nowhere!

    Schmebulock
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its not rocket surgery. If you go out to eat and are waited on expect to tip 20% unless the service is bad.

    PenguinEmp
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait you under tipped and you were mad he was upset?

    Ron Man
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only reason I'm here is so I can read all the Euros crying about tipping in the comments. Cry all you want, it doesn't change the system that's been in place for decades. If you don't want to tip, that's fine. That's your choice. Funny how you get angry about Americans acting American in your country, yet you don't see the hypocrisy of what you're doing by crying about tipping in the US. When in Rome people... it works both fvcking ways.

    Babs McGurk
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    7 months ago

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    What is "something that never happened, Alex."

    Dragon mama
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    7 months ago

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    My budget is very tight. So I don't eat out. Because tipping is customary and I care about other people. I can't afford the luxury so I don't go out. I wish servers were paid better, but this is the reality right now: they aren't. And the people who say "get a better job" can just f**k right off a cliff. My daughters waited tables while in school and so did I. I really hate tipping culture. I find it awkward and desperately sad, but it's the reality so I just opt out of the whole mess. If you CHOOSE to eat in a restaurant where tipping is customary then you CHOSE to pay a tip and deserve to be called out if you don't!

    Rob D
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    7 months ago (edited)

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    If you can't afford to tip, you cant afford the restaurant. If you go to another country, learn their gratuity customs; it's their locals livelihood. Lastly, for all the "ugly American tourist" that gets dragged... the visitors that come here are no better at "adopting the culture". You never hear stories about adopting American culture on vacation, just complaints. "AMiRiCans Smile too much". ...then smile back, you're in their country. Instead, you look at us weird. There are cultures that don't really believe in lines, "queuing"... guess what, those tourists treat American lines like they don't exist. Tipping, however unfair, however toxic, is a standard custom; visit appropriately (the op knew d**n well their parents wouldn't know how to tip and didn't care).

    Betsy S
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you can't afford to pay your staff, you can't afford to be in business. The BUSINESS pays the staff wages, NOT the customers! It's a basic business principle.

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    Motivated sloth
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    7 months ago

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    Dear tourists, Telling the US restaurants should pay a living wage is NOT going to make restaurants pay a living wage. This is what is customary here. If you feel like your service was very bad, then don’t tip the full amount and explain why. It usually isn’t that much more, depending on where you’re eating. If you’re unwilling or unable to pay 20% on a $500 meal, go somewhere cheaper. We have a variety of restaurants that charge very different prices. If you go to the counter somewhere and order, then retrieve your meal yourself, you are not obliged to tip. Other tourists also constantly talk about our portion sizes being huge, free iced water, free refills. So it sounds like you’re getting a pretty good deal comparatively after all. For that 20% tip, turn that meal into two if you need to. When budgeting for vacation, you include food which in the US should include tip. That said, I’ve never seen a server confront someone about their tip $ most employers wouldn’t allow it.

    Rob D
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    7 months ago

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    This. Y'all know we have a joke of a two party system. One of the two parties has fought living wage and benefits since Reagan. Our hands are tied. Making the principled anti-toxic-tip-culture stand doesn't do anything for the waiter you just screwed.

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    Orysha
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pay your staff living wages, if you can't or don't want to you shouldn't run a business. Mandatory tipping culture is insane.

    KatSaidWhat
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every time I consider going to the States, I read this kind of thing and start looking at Europe again.

    Susie Elle
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes it's rude to leave less than a 10% tip in the US, and apparently you can then be expected to be harrassed out the door. Sure, read up on and adhere to other country's cultural things. On the other hand, expecting 20% tip is pushing the boundaries of what you can consider to be normal, and it's real f*****g weird to follow people out the restaurant.

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    Neea P
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the waiter was way out of line. That kind of rudeness should not be rewarded.

    Scott Rackley
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many moons ago I waited tables. Some people don't tip. That's the deal. You just go to the next table. Chasing someone down was just not done.

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    Robert T
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The rudeness and arrogance of this galls me. It is not up to the customer to make up your wages. That is the responsibility of your employer. Tips are given for exceptional service, not merely doing your job. A mandatory service charge is NOT a tip! America needs to learn this and change the way they price things in restaurants. Brushing it off as your culture is just stupid. Employees need to know how much they are going to take home at the end of the week.

    Thanos'Fingers
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I keep telling everybody who will listen to just stop with the mandatory tipping. Go back to the day that you gave 10% for good service, or nothing. Then waiters will make a stink, and it won't be about "people don't tip enough". It will be "my boss won't give me a living wage" like the rest of us plebs. Why should they get special treatment for writing down my exact words on a little notepad and carrying it 25' to someone who does the real work?

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    Gabriel Camomescro
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1) I refuse to be guilt-tripped into adding to already expensive meal costs because an employer cannot be bothered to pay a fair wage. 2) Tips are optional, and if they want mandatory "tips" then add a service charge. 3) Follow me out the door and make sure you get a good look because I will not be back. That is unacceptably aggressive behaviour, bordering on stalking.

    madeleine f
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone said 'Don't go out eating if you not prepared to tip 20%'. I would say 'Don't run a business if you cannot afford to pay your staff a decent wage.' And if people who don't pay 20% tip stopped going out, staff and restaurants would have even less money. Stop making your guests feeling uncomfortable and be grateful they visited your restaurant.

    Earonn -
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also: "If you're not happy with your wage, take it out on your employer, not your customer".

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    Virgil Blue
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its nuts how Americans themselves defend that toxic tipping culture. Don't they get that's it's, at this point, a scheme to keep them horribly underpaid and insecure? Just because it seems that customers love holding tips over the heads of servers? And don't give me "it's needed to ensure good service". In Europe we generally have excellent service. Maybe because we generally treat staff as humans and not as servants.

    Virgil Blue
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Addition: your boss should give you a living wage and tips should be a bonus, not something to make up the difference.

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    Blah Blah Blah
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We're missing the point here. Is it out of control yes, should you abide by the countries customs you're in, yes. BUT... Americans need to stop blaming the customer for our low wages and DEMAND our employer pay us a living wage and that needs to be done so thru our government! Our entire system needs to change.

    R Dennis
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked in restaurants and the food industry my entire working life. I tip well, but absolutely hate how out of control it is... I don't want to tip at a drive-thru, to pick up a carryout, or anywhere I have to do my own service. Pay living wages, pay employees, stop making their daily wage my responsibility.

    marcelo D.
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Americans are so brainwashed into tipping culture created by the restauran owners to keep wages low. No, the waiter doesn't have a right to go and hound the people for more money because he believes that he deserves more (based on what they spent, not on his performance). If he believes his work deserves more money, he can discuss that with his employer, not with the costumers, who are in no way obligated to subsidize the restaurant.

    Trillian
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    7 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not that I would set foot in the US again inthese times but the last time I was there we would buy stuff in the supermarket (like salads and sandwiches) and eat outside or in the hotel for precisely those reasons. Eating out in the US is not an enjoyable experience, it's expensive, the tip culture is completely over the top, you can't have a conversation because the waitstaff will keep interrupting and the second you finish your last bite they basically shoo you out.

    Falafal salad
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well no one wants to visit the USA right now anyway so guess this problem will sort itself out.

    Nota Robot
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hand me the $7 back right now, you entitled a*****e

    Emilu
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    7 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is grossly unprofessional. Having said that, I'd personally read up on the tipping culture and be prepared before I dine out in a foreign country, but even still. Begging for extra money? Tacky in the extreme. Pay your staff properly and don't expect them to rely on customers' good graces.

    Rafael
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wouldn't surprise me considering that even the Ferengi would look at the US and say "dude, tone it down..."

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    Michelle C
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I tip what is deserved based on the service I get..just because you brought me my food doesn't mean you automatically get 15-20%. I also see it when I pick up a takeout order!!! You're not serving me, do I get a tip for delivering my food to myself...another thing I'm noticing is a tipping page at retailers. I picked out my own clothes and am buying them and you want a tip too. I just love how the cashier stares at me when I get to that screen and I hit zero...it's clothes, nobody helped me.

    Fellfromthemoon
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Americans: If you come here, and want to eat, pay a huge tip! Why can't we get a glass of water in a German restaurant? Europeans: The business owner shall carry the brunt of the risk, not the employees. The owner must pay a living wage. Tipping is nice, but optional. The largest margin is on the drinks.

    Betsy S
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not just "getting out of control". It's disgusting. If you can't afford to pay your staff a living wage, your business plan is WRONG! Pay YOUR staff. It's not your customer's responsibility to pay your staff any more than I'd be responsible for paying the cashier's wages at a grocery store. Your cheapskateness does not become my problem. Tipping is gross and an insult to every customer that walks through your door. That business model needs to be made illegal.

    Alexandra
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For God's sake! A tip is not for someone who simply does his or her job; it's for service above and beyond. A customer should not hav,e to pay a waiter's wage: an employer gets to do that. Pay your staff a liveable wage so they don't depend on tips. Why should a customer be held responsible when it's the employer who's exploiting the staff? If a tip is mandatory, just raise your price, don't pretend a tip is a voluntary thing.

    White Sauce Hot Sauce
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    7 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it's a mandatory charge, the restaurant should add it to the bill.

    For All Pedernity
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We were chased by a server in Israel once, screaming we needed to pay more, after leaving the restaurant, for having rounded up and not given an exact ( I believe it was 20 %) tip. But then, nothing about the rudeness of Israelis surprises me...

    h8ptkjsjwf
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Back in the 70's I worked at a gas station while in college. I made minimum wage with NO chance for more. I would pump the gas, check the oil, wash the windows, check tire pressure and add more if needed. I spent MUCH more time serving every customer than almost all waiters/waitresses. I received a single $1 tip in 2 years. I do not feel sorry for them as all make at least minimum wage and many much more.

    DrBronxx
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Should have taken the $7 back. It was $7 more than they needed to pay in the first place.

    TheMFKNXerdo
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In some places in my country, the waiters are super scummy and demand tips, become aggressive. I even had some wannabe Casanova HITTING ON MY DATE. Hell no. I tip 10% as is customary in my country, 15% if service is great. These american customs infesting my country are unacceptable. And they were trying to spread it to civilised countries like Japan, too! It is great that this infection has not taken root there yet.

    Joe Bloe
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He prove he didn't deserve the extra tip with his reaction.

    COCO puff
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear America, just grow up! you are ruinning everything with your tarrifs, your underpaid workers/beggers.

    Megan Lacey
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Canada is just as bad with the tip attitude but they make much higher wages. To me this is worse. Service/people are fake. All geared around getting bigger tips. Please just do the job you applied to do or let someone else who needs it have it

    °CORLEONE°
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am the owner of my own money and I am the one to decide how much to tip $0 or 20%. It all depends on how that experience is. It is not my fault that people do not get paid enough. It is all how people grew up and some are born and raised with tipping in their culture.

    walkabout
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At the top michelleanichols commented, “ They pull money out of their own pockets to cover tip out & taxes if 20% is not given.” Is that true?

    Virgil Blue
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know, but have seen it mentioned elsewhere. If so, that's nuts.

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    Sarah
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    7 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This really frustrates me . How a country so big believes the lies they are living in a free and wonderful country, taking for granted that the hardworking wait staff depend on tips due to not being paid properly, your govt who are filthy rich is laughing in your faces. Watching you and us( when we visit) being stressed and give money for tips we can’t really afford and watch us all squabble. As they bask in the sidelines with their millions watching us squabble amongst ourselves but doing nothing about it. How has waiting staff salaries/ lack thereof, gone for SO long and no backlash from the American citizens?

    Earonn -
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG, never was in such a situation, but hope I'd be aware enough to just let that person call their boss and I'll discuss their 'tip' with them. Yeah, I get it that the USA let it come to a point where the customer is held more responsible for the staff's wages than the boss - probably because the customer has less power and is the easier target - but hell, you will not harass me on my way out.

    Allison Slagle (Randomosity)
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always tipped based on how good the service was like my parents do and we've never got harassed by a waiter. Do a good job and I'll tip you, but I've gotta make a living too and it's not my fault you get paid below minimum wage.

    Mobey Drunk
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most people who complain about tipping never had to rely on it. Even though I've never called anyone out on it, I look down on them because it's half my income. A lot of people think by not tipping your going to harm the employer, in reality they still get the same money. This is how we pay our bills. We put up with all of your stupid jokes and even harassment. If you don't like tip culture, don't go to a place where tipping is costumary.

    Mark Childers
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Since the pandemic, I've always tipped at least 25%, usually more, especially if the meal or the service or both are amazing. And this is especially true of all of my regular haunts where people know me. I want them to appreciate me when I'm there because I absolutely appreciate them. And when I see a server or bartender struggling, I tip more.

    Tyranamar
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You’re part of the problem. 20% for excellent service. 15% for standard. 10% if you’re mad. 25% just sets up unrealistic expectations.

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    Old but wiser
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The mom of the OP was a cheapskate. Businesses really should pay wait staff a higher wage.

    Bahama Mama
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the comments just made me not want to tip anymore! Over 20% in this economy, get out of here!!! Soon only the rich will be the only one's to afford to tip.

    C_galen_b
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are absolutely right: if we can't afford the 20% or 25% or 30% tip they want, we absolutely need to stop eating out. COMPLETELY. Of course, the restaurants will have to close and the servers will lose their job, but IF THEY CAN'T SELL AN AFFORDABLE PRODUCT, THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN BUSINESS.

    Erik Biesemeier
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not just that tipping is stupid, it's also been inflating recently. 15% at a restaurant with a server was the norm for decades. The last 5 years it's expected to pay 20+% and even automated ordering systems will ask for a tip now.

    Flo
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Looking at a lot of the comments up there it is shocking to see that the good ol' US of A managed to delude so many people into thinking it has to be mandatory to give a tip of 20% and more + also the braindead statement of "iF yOu CaN't AfFoRd To TiP dOn'T eAt OuT!". B*tch, if you can't get a job that pays a living wage it's certainly not my fault. Now stfu and get your a*s back on that short bus.

    Devin Schmitt
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whatever happened to the standard of 15%?

    Ms.GB
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I definitely think you should tip but it gets ridiculous to tip 20% when you go out and end up paying like $300 then you have to pay another $60!? That's more than most people make in a hour and those servers have more than one table...they're making bank!

    megabeth
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At a place where you are paying $300 the server has to tip the bartender, food runner and bussers out of that $60. Js

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    tori Ohno
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always tip well, but only because I've been conditioned to. But, if it was bad service, I tip less. If a server ever followed me out like that, I'd tell them to get the manager and explain to the manager WHY the server got a bad tip. And then let him/her know that this interaction is going on Yelp tonight. Things are getting to be too expensive nowadays. If these restaurants want to stay open, they'd better come up with a better solution than harassing customers for tips. Tips should be for above and beyond service, not mandatory.

    Ozymandias73
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See...this is what gives other countries a bad taste about tips. I had been a server for many years and any tips I received, I got them because I was good at my job. (And I made quite a bit in tips and various restaurants.) I still make pretty good tips at the casino I work at currently. But this waiter was in the wrong by far! I'm surprised he didn't lose his job! No matter how good of service you may give, sometimes, you just don't get tipped or get less than what you "think" you should've gotten. That's the nature of the beast. Move on.

    Wij
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, another demonstration that the US sucks.

    Michael Largey
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We were once followed out of a restaurant because we had paid the wrong amount. I won't say that waitress had indecipherable hand writing, but she must have been waiting tables to pay her med school tuition.

    Wheeskers
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't have to tip you at all. It's my choice. You have a job, do it. I'll decide what, if any monies you'll receive from me. You're not my judge or the jury.

    Freddy Ricci
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone wants the tipping became mandatory, complain with your beautiful orange POTUS and he'll write asap a law about it.

    Mason Kronol
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have worked in the service industry in the USA since 1988. Nobody confronts a customer like that without getting fired. Yes, I am one of the lucky that made about $2.30 an hour at times so tips were essential. I also didn't want to look like an a$$hat to other customers. You treat everyone with kindness and respect. Also my MIL was very cheap so if we knew she was going to treat us to lunch or dinner, like another commenter said, we had cash on hand and tossed it on the table as mom headed away from the table. She was not only cheap but difficult too. Wow I don't miss her. FIL was a saint, guess that's why he checked out early.

    h8ptkjsjwf
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if a server makes less than the minimum wage the employer is required to add to it to bring it up to the minimum wage. Severs DO NOT average less than minimum wage for a pay period.

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    ADJ
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always tip when I eat out at establishment with waiters. Literally always. However, I would never tip 20% or more, rather rounding 21 to 25, 26 to 30 or 71 to 80. If what happened to OP happened to me, this establishment would be put on NO-GO list.

    Liserhawkie80
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, tipping culture is getting out of control. But, it's always been the norm for waitstaff. We aren't talking about a mechanic asking for a tip here. I've been out to eat with my grandparents back in the day and my grandma was a MAJOR cheapskate. I always ended up leaving the tip because she refused. Should the restaurant pay living wages? Of course, but until they do we need to tip.

    Jack Sonol
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If we continue tipping, nothing will ever change.

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    Anony Mouse
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh hooray! Another pointless and circular debate about tipping culture that will go nowhere!

    Schmebulock
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its not rocket surgery. If you go out to eat and are waited on expect to tip 20% unless the service is bad.

    PenguinEmp
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait you under tipped and you were mad he was upset?

    Ron Man
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only reason I'm here is so I can read all the Euros crying about tipping in the comments. Cry all you want, it doesn't change the system that's been in place for decades. If you don't want to tip, that's fine. That's your choice. Funny how you get angry about Americans acting American in your country, yet you don't see the hypocrisy of what you're doing by crying about tipping in the US. When in Rome people... it works both fvcking ways.

    Babs McGurk
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    7 months ago

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    What is "something that never happened, Alex."

    Dragon mama
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    7 months ago

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    My budget is very tight. So I don't eat out. Because tipping is customary and I care about other people. I can't afford the luxury so I don't go out. I wish servers were paid better, but this is the reality right now: they aren't. And the people who say "get a better job" can just f**k right off a cliff. My daughters waited tables while in school and so did I. I really hate tipping culture. I find it awkward and desperately sad, but it's the reality so I just opt out of the whole mess. If you CHOOSE to eat in a restaurant where tipping is customary then you CHOSE to pay a tip and deserve to be called out if you don't!

    Rob D
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    7 months ago (edited)

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    If you can't afford to tip, you cant afford the restaurant. If you go to another country, learn their gratuity customs; it's their locals livelihood. Lastly, for all the "ugly American tourist" that gets dragged... the visitors that come here are no better at "adopting the culture". You never hear stories about adopting American culture on vacation, just complaints. "AMiRiCans Smile too much". ...then smile back, you're in their country. Instead, you look at us weird. There are cultures that don't really believe in lines, "queuing"... guess what, those tourists treat American lines like they don't exist. Tipping, however unfair, however toxic, is a standard custom; visit appropriately (the op knew d**n well their parents wouldn't know how to tip and didn't care).

    Betsy S
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you can't afford to pay your staff, you can't afford to be in business. The BUSINESS pays the staff wages, NOT the customers! It's a basic business principle.

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    Motivated sloth
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    7 months ago

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    Dear tourists, Telling the US restaurants should pay a living wage is NOT going to make restaurants pay a living wage. This is what is customary here. If you feel like your service was very bad, then don’t tip the full amount and explain why. It usually isn’t that much more, depending on where you’re eating. If you’re unwilling or unable to pay 20% on a $500 meal, go somewhere cheaper. We have a variety of restaurants that charge very different prices. If you go to the counter somewhere and order, then retrieve your meal yourself, you are not obliged to tip. Other tourists also constantly talk about our portion sizes being huge, free iced water, free refills. So it sounds like you’re getting a pretty good deal comparatively after all. For that 20% tip, turn that meal into two if you need to. When budgeting for vacation, you include food which in the US should include tip. That said, I’ve never seen a server confront someone about their tip $ most employers wouldn’t allow it.

    Rob D
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    7 months ago

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    This. Y'all know we have a joke of a two party system. One of the two parties has fought living wage and benefits since Reagan. Our hands are tied. Making the principled anti-toxic-tip-culture stand doesn't do anything for the waiter you just screwed.

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