Teen Moves Out With Sister, Mom Can’t Believe They Used Her Threats Against Her
While everyone has their quirks, some people believe that the unhinged way they see the world has to be inflicted on everyone else. Fortunately, it’s pretty rare that these people possess actual power, but a very common exception to this is when one lives with a controlling parent.
A netizen shared their dysfunctional family dynamic online and asked for some advice. Their mother had a very controlling rule, that if someone’s birthday fell on a holiday, no one was allowed to celebrate it. Since this included two out of three of the kids in the family (for Easter and Thanksgiving), conflict was inevitable.
A parent banning birthday celebrations is weird enough
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But one netizen turned to the internet when their mom would flip out if someone celebrated a birthday on a holiday
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Toxic parenting is characterized by seeing one’s kids as a resource
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Mental health experts note that many controlling parents often disguise their control as love, insisting that they “know what’s best” while consistently undermining their child’s independence. The birthday scenario demonstrates this perfectly. Forbidding celebrations isn’t presented as cruelty but as adherence to some supposed principle about holidays. The absurdity becomes clear when the situation escalates over a single cupcake, yet the mother frames herself as the injured party. Toxic parents often react to a child’s mistake in ways that are significantly more severe than warranted, with punishments that rarely fit the supposed offense. In this case, the “offense” of accepting a birthday cupcake led to an entire family member being uninvited from Thanksgiving. The punishment wildly exceeded any reasonable response, which is a hallmark of toxic parenting.
Controlling parents can become overly involved in their children’s lives to the point that it limits freedom, independence, and individuality. Experts believe that toxic parents will almost always put their own needs before that of their kids, so this mother’s objection to her 18-year-old child moving out reveals the true motivation behind her control: she needs free labor to drive her son around and provide childcare. When that resource threatens to leave, the manipulation intensifies. One of the clearest signs of a toxic parent is the use of manipulation to control their child’s thoughts, emotions, and decisions through tactics such as guilt-tripping, playing the victim, or using affection as a bargaining tool. The tears that appeared when the daughter asserted her right to leave demonstrate textbook manipulation. When authority fails and threats backfire, emotional manipulation becomes the final weapon.
Experts identify stonewalling a child or giving them the silent treatment for hours or even days at a time as a form of emotional manipulation. Similarly, toxic parents may also be verbally and emotionally aggressive as a way to take power and control. The pattern in this family includes all these elements: isolation through uninviting family members, emotional manipulation through tears, and maintaining control through fear of being kicked out.
Growing up with a controlling mom can make it hard to see just how horrible this behavior actually is
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Identifying whether a parent is toxic can be difficult, especially if someone has normalized their behavior over the years as a way to cope. For example, this netizen had to go online to ask people for advice when the case was pretty open and shut. Only when the sister offered an alternative did they begin to see how bizarre and controlling the rule actually was. It might be helpful to first acknowledge how interacting with parents makes someone feel, as interactions that leave people feeling frustrated, confused, or emotionally drained can indicate toxic behavior.
When people discuss toxic parents they are typically describing parents who consistently behave in ways that cause guilt, fear, or obligation in their children, with actions that aren’t isolated events but patterns of behavior that negatively shape their child’s life. The birthday ban, the threats of eviction, crying, the recruitment of family members to enforce compliance. These aren’t one-time mistakes but a comprehensive manipulators playbook to maintain control.
So what can someone in this situation do? The first and most important factor for adult children of toxic parents to realize is that they can only control their own behaviors and do not have the ability to change or control the behaviors their parent or parents choose to use. As an adult, people may still feel like they’re waiting for someone to give them permission to escape parental influence, but they are the person who can grant themselves permission and decide to change and take back their life.
Setting boundaries or limits and clearly defining what is acceptable and what is not is crucial, and limiting contact with parents can help keep time together positive and healthy. The sister’s offer of a room represents exactly this kind of healthy boundary, a space where birthdays are celebrated, where cupcakes aren’t contraband, and where adults aren’t threatened with homelessness for having feelings. The real tragedy isn’t just the missing birthday celebrations. It’s the years spent thinking this treatment was normal, that wanting to be acknowledged on one’s birthday was somehow selfish or unreasonable. Recognizing toxic behavior is the first step toward breaking free from it. Sometimes that recognition comes from something as simple as realizing that other families don’t stage dramatic interventions over baked goods.
Most thought their mom was controlling and toxic
Some comments did end up being controversial
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I have a nephew born on 12/24 and a niece born on 1/1. Both get separate gifts. And the mom is correct when she says "your birthday is not a holiday". Your birthday is your birthday, if it falls on a holiday, its a holiday AND your birthday.
My hubby's birthday is Christmas Day. His parents NEVER bought a birthday cake, gave him a birthday party, or did anything special for him. Our first Christmas together I had a cake made in the shape of a red eyed tree frog for him, because he loved them, and MY family sang him happy birthday and had a whole party for him, birthday banner, hats, pile of colourfully wrapped band all. It was a surprise. He literally cried.
That made me tear up, your family rocks!! So sweet of y’all to do that for him.
Load More Replies...Anytime you think you own your kids you're the toxic parent. Period.
Why the actual f***k is the brother like that? Seems like he's mammas boy
He's about to be the only one left she has to control so he won't have that smug grin on his face much longer.
Load More Replies...one of the commenters said "there may be reasons" there probably are but that doesn't mean they're reasonable reasons
Mama and Grandma are both crazy control freaks. Move in with your sister when Mama and brother aren't home and don't tell her. If you have any accounts that she has access to Move all of your money to a different bank ASAP so that she doesn't try to take it.
Also take all personal documents such as SS card, birth certificate, passport (if you have one), etc.
Load More Replies...My birthday is in December. So is my father’s. He ALWAYS made sure I had a birthday separate from Xmas, because when he was a kid, he got ripped off with that “this is for Xmas AND birthday” büllshit. The kicker? His mother should have known better—her b’day was in December! We seem to get a December b’day in every generation in my family. I have committed to upholding this for my December-born niece.
To the 3% that said "It's completely acceptable behavior" - YTFAs...really...SMH.
Or, to put it another way, the celebration of the birth of the person that you *created* is less important than some maybe did or didn't exist guy two thousand years ago *that's actually on the wrong date* because the church sort of hijacked the natural festivals (midwinter, spring equinox, etc) that existed prior? Sorry, but even if I was a really religious person, my own creation would take precedence. Anything else is unconscionable.
Load More Replies...This is not a "birthday" problem, it's a "this woman should have never been allowed to parent" problem. The only way to solve it is to move out and go no contact. I certainly wouldn't care in the slightest that it would make life more difficult for her. She earned it through being a c**p mom and human being.
This sounds like something my stepmother would do. Absolutely clueless and bitter.
Yes, the 13 y.o. is being a brat, but it would be a sibling kindness to forewarn him that, as the sisters, reduce their involvement, the mother will turn on him for lack of other targets. He might be the 'good kid' for now, but, ultimately, mother's favorite person is always going to be herself. Second, that 'your birthday isn't a holiday' shows resentment that the birthdays make the kids special and she really hates it if there is a chance it might get 'too special' for her liking. I do think that the children should turn it around and explain that it is her fault for not planning the birth better and what is she going to to do to make it up for failing to give birth on a date that was free and clear of any conflicts? Really highlight the absurdity of her resentment and hostility.
My hubby's birthday is Christmas Day. His parents NEVER bought a birthday cake, gave him a birthday party, or did anything special for him. Our first Christmas together I had a cake made in the shape of a red eyed tree frog for him, because he loved them, and MY family sang him happy birthday and had a whole party for him, birthday banner, hats, pile of colourfully wrapped birthday gifts and all. It was a surprise. He literally cried.
It's easy to see where the mother got her personality from. She is still a child, mentally/emotionally, and needs a psychotherapist and some SERIOUS self awareness so she can finally grow up.
She could buy her brother a "Bïtches Get Stitches" teeshirt for his 14th birthday,
Ha! I’Ve never heard that before, but it’s hilarious!😆
Load More Replies...My best friends kid was born on boxing day and despite her trying to celebrate or have parties people always said they were too busy and couldn't come. Obviously this upset my friend. For her 4th birthday I arranged a big surprise party but on 26th June. It was a success and the kid had the best birthday ever. She's 15 now and still has a June birthday celebration. Her nickname is Queenie because she has 2 birthdays.
People crapping all over the 13-year-old brother should do a little reading about narcissistic mothers and "the golden child". Yes, he's being obnoxious but it's partly a coping/defense mechanism, and as other commenters have pointed out, once the target leaves the house...he s next in the firing line.
Some years my birthday falls on one of the days of Hanukkah. It was always a separate thing. I've never heard of anything like this. Mom is a nutsy fagin.
This is why you dont have kids around holidays, not fair to the kids
People that absurd do exist. My mother threatened to throw me out of the house if I did not get confirmed. I did not get confirmed, but spent many years waiting to be thrown out at any moment. I studied hard, worked hard, saved hard for a house and now she's spent many years trying to get me to talk to her.
Load More Replies...I have a nephew born on 12/24 and a niece born on 1/1. Both get separate gifts. And the mom is correct when she says "your birthday is not a holiday". Your birthday is your birthday, if it falls on a holiday, its a holiday AND your birthday.
My hubby's birthday is Christmas Day. His parents NEVER bought a birthday cake, gave him a birthday party, or did anything special for him. Our first Christmas together I had a cake made in the shape of a red eyed tree frog for him, because he loved them, and MY family sang him happy birthday and had a whole party for him, birthday banner, hats, pile of colourfully wrapped band all. It was a surprise. He literally cried.
That made me tear up, your family rocks!! So sweet of y’all to do that for him.
Load More Replies...Anytime you think you own your kids you're the toxic parent. Period.
Why the actual f***k is the brother like that? Seems like he's mammas boy
He's about to be the only one left she has to control so he won't have that smug grin on his face much longer.
Load More Replies...one of the commenters said "there may be reasons" there probably are but that doesn't mean they're reasonable reasons
Mama and Grandma are both crazy control freaks. Move in with your sister when Mama and brother aren't home and don't tell her. If you have any accounts that she has access to Move all of your money to a different bank ASAP so that she doesn't try to take it.
Also take all personal documents such as SS card, birth certificate, passport (if you have one), etc.
Load More Replies...My birthday is in December. So is my father’s. He ALWAYS made sure I had a birthday separate from Xmas, because when he was a kid, he got ripped off with that “this is for Xmas AND birthday” büllshit. The kicker? His mother should have known better—her b’day was in December! We seem to get a December b’day in every generation in my family. I have committed to upholding this for my December-born niece.
To the 3% that said "It's completely acceptable behavior" - YTFAs...really...SMH.
Or, to put it another way, the celebration of the birth of the person that you *created* is less important than some maybe did or didn't exist guy two thousand years ago *that's actually on the wrong date* because the church sort of hijacked the natural festivals (midwinter, spring equinox, etc) that existed prior? Sorry, but even if I was a really religious person, my own creation would take precedence. Anything else is unconscionable.
Load More Replies...This is not a "birthday" problem, it's a "this woman should have never been allowed to parent" problem. The only way to solve it is to move out and go no contact. I certainly wouldn't care in the slightest that it would make life more difficult for her. She earned it through being a c**p mom and human being.
This sounds like something my stepmother would do. Absolutely clueless and bitter.
Yes, the 13 y.o. is being a brat, but it would be a sibling kindness to forewarn him that, as the sisters, reduce their involvement, the mother will turn on him for lack of other targets. He might be the 'good kid' for now, but, ultimately, mother's favorite person is always going to be herself. Second, that 'your birthday isn't a holiday' shows resentment that the birthdays make the kids special and she really hates it if there is a chance it might get 'too special' for her liking. I do think that the children should turn it around and explain that it is her fault for not planning the birth better and what is she going to to do to make it up for failing to give birth on a date that was free and clear of any conflicts? Really highlight the absurdity of her resentment and hostility.
My hubby's birthday is Christmas Day. His parents NEVER bought a birthday cake, gave him a birthday party, or did anything special for him. Our first Christmas together I had a cake made in the shape of a red eyed tree frog for him, because he loved them, and MY family sang him happy birthday and had a whole party for him, birthday banner, hats, pile of colourfully wrapped birthday gifts and all. It was a surprise. He literally cried.
It's easy to see where the mother got her personality from. She is still a child, mentally/emotionally, and needs a psychotherapist and some SERIOUS self awareness so she can finally grow up.
She could buy her brother a "Bïtches Get Stitches" teeshirt for his 14th birthday,
Ha! I’Ve never heard that before, but it’s hilarious!😆
Load More Replies...My best friends kid was born on boxing day and despite her trying to celebrate or have parties people always said they were too busy and couldn't come. Obviously this upset my friend. For her 4th birthday I arranged a big surprise party but on 26th June. It was a success and the kid had the best birthday ever. She's 15 now and still has a June birthday celebration. Her nickname is Queenie because she has 2 birthdays.
People crapping all over the 13-year-old brother should do a little reading about narcissistic mothers and "the golden child". Yes, he's being obnoxious but it's partly a coping/defense mechanism, and as other commenters have pointed out, once the target leaves the house...he s next in the firing line.
Some years my birthday falls on one of the days of Hanukkah. It was always a separate thing. I've never heard of anything like this. Mom is a nutsy fagin.
This is why you dont have kids around holidays, not fair to the kids
People that absurd do exist. My mother threatened to throw me out of the house if I did not get confirmed. I did not get confirmed, but spent many years waiting to be thrown out at any moment. I studied hard, worked hard, saved hard for a house and now she's spent many years trying to get me to talk to her.
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