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Interviewer Starts Mocking Work-Life Balance, Shuts Up After Applicant Retaliates
Interviewer Starts Mocking Work-Life Balance, Shuts Up After Applicant Retaliates
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Interviewer Starts Mocking Work-Life Balance, Shuts Up After Applicant Retaliates

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Unexpected things happen, especially at work, so a person might find themselves staying at their desk a little longer than usual. But when such unexpected situations arise, it’s completely normal to expect to be compensated for them.

Or so this person thought. Upon going to an interview with a start-up, they learned how the company deals with such situations, which made the candidate withdraw the application without blinking. Scroll down to find the full story in their own words, as well as their recent interview with Bored Panda in the text below.

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    This person withdrew their application after they learned how employees at this start-up were compensated

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    Like any other place of employment, a start-up, too, boasts advantages and disadvantages

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    While each job boasts a unique set of challenges, start-ups—similarly to established corporations—tend to present some that are quite common to companies of this sort.

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    The author of Beyond The Startup and Building Corporate Soul and a founding partner of Spark44, Ralf Specht, pointed out that there are three main things to consider before applying to a start-up, which could be considered advantageous or disadvantageous, depending on your personality and what you’re looking for in your professional life.

    The first one is the fact that you might be expected to give 150% of your effort. “This is important, as the extreme uncertainty found in these environments is often balanced by the drive and passion of the leadership team and their belief in the company’s mission or purpose,” Specht wrote for the Harvard Business Review. “Uncertainty paired with passion is what gives startups their energy.”

    The second point the expert made was that working in a start-up requires being flexible and resilient, as there’s likely to be quite a lot of trial and error at such a place of employment. However, according to Ralf Specht, such an environment provides immense opportunities for growth as well.

    “I love flexibility in start-ups; I’m a person that hates doing the same thing all the time,” the OP told Bored Panda in a recent interview. “Early on in my career, I got a lot of experience doing a little of everything because that’s what you need to do. I think working in start-ups just exponentially increases your experience because you don’t have other people to rely on; you can just go test stuff, which is honestly pretty great.”

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    “What I don’t like is the disorganization,” they added, covering the other side of the coin. “Sometimes, you go into a company, and one hand doesn’t know what the other is doing, or no one is aligned on goals, or you’re just kind of following the strategy the CEO read about in a blog post at 2 am the previous night. Which, I say that, but the CEOs are new to being CEOs too; not everyone has that super clear vision of where they want to go with the know-how to get them there.”

    The candidate admitted being shocked by the expectations regarding working overtime

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    The candidate shared with Bored Panda that they were a little shocked to learn about the company’s stance regarding working overtime. “I hadn’t heard the ‘we don’t count our hours’ thing since the very beginning of my career, and every place I’d worked since was very strict about working hours.

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    “The overall trend in tech is moving towards less work: 4-hour workweeks, flexible Fridays, and unlimited PTO (paid time off), so I was just taken aback to hear someone flippantly describing people who liked to work their hours as lazy.”

    The OP is far from the only one prioritizing a healthy work-life balance over the company’s success; according to Zippia, more than seven-in-ten workers consider such balance an important factor when choosing a job, and nearly six-in-ten say they see poor work-life balance as a dealbreaker when choosing a new place of employment.

    As a matter of fact, a healthy work-life balance nowadays seems to be more important than ever. According to 2021 data, in some countries, such as Sweden or the UK, it’s even more sought after than financial compensation or benefits. (In the US, for instance, the two seem to be close competitors, with job security third on the list.)

    “It absolutely has become more important than ever,” the OP agreed. “I’ve been working remotely since long before the pandemic, and especially for remote workers, that work-life balance is critical. When you don’t have a physical office to go to, work can bleed into your personal life, and you can burn out super easily.”

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    They shared their ways of maintaining a healthy work-life balance

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    While discussing the significance of a healthy work-life balance, the OP discussed their ways of making sure the scale doesn’t tip in either direction, revealing that the first one is working the same hours every day. “I’m available from X time to X time and I disconnect everything after that time finishes up.

    “If I do work later to accommodate someone else, I start later or leave earlier the next day. Or I’ll take a longer lunch,” they continued, before adding that they don’t use their personal computer or phone for work-related matters (except for a rare emergency or for posting a meme on one of the meme-dedicated channels at work). “When I have weekends or other time off, I fully disconnect; I even disconnect from LinkedIn.

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    “I also choose companies and managers that fall into the same ideals I do about work-life balance. I look out for red flags in job descriptions that tell me a company isn’t going to be compatible with me,” they pointed out, which explains why they were quick to withdraw their application from the start-up company in the story. “I recognize that especially that last part is a huge privilege, and that not everyone has that option. But if you do, you absolutely should.”

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    The candidate provided more details in the comments

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    Fellow netizens shared their views on the matter, too

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    Some people have encountered similar situations themselves

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    Miglė Miliūtė

    Miglė Miliūtė

    Writer, Community member

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    A writer here at Bored Panda, I am a lover of good music, good food, and good company, which makes food-related topics and feel-good stories my favorite ones to cover. Passionate about traveling and concerts, I constantly seek occasions to visit places yet personally unexplored. I also enjoy spending free time outdoors, trying out different sports—even if I don’t look too graceful at it—or socializing over a cup of coffee.

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    Miglė Miliūtė

    Miglė Miliūtė

    Writer, Community member

    A writer here at Bored Panda, I am a lover of good music, good food, and good company, which makes food-related topics and feel-good stories my favorite ones to cover. Passionate about traveling and concerts, I constantly seek occasions to visit places yet personally unexplored. I also enjoy spending free time outdoors, trying out different sports—even if I don’t look too graceful at it—or socializing over a cup of coffee.

    Kotryna Br

    Kotryna Br

    Author, BoredPanda staff

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    Kotryna is a Photo Editor at Bored Panda with a BA in Graphic Design. Before Bored Panda, she worked as a freelance graphic designer and illiustrator. When not editing, she enjoys working with clay, drawing, playing board games and drinking good tea.

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    Kotryna Br

    Kotryna Br

    Author, BoredPanda staff

    Kotryna is a Photo Editor at Bored Panda with a BA in Graphic Design. Before Bored Panda, she worked as a freelance graphic designer and illiustrator. When not editing, she enjoys working with clay, drawing, playing board games and drinking good tea.

    What do you think ?
    Mike F
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder if the "brass" would forgo their compensation in the same situation? My money is on absolutely not.

    Guess Undheit
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's just like companies that don't put the pay in the ad and then call YOU a "red flag" if you ask how much. In my line of work and the places people post jobs, they're required to list the salary and/or hourly - and if they don't their job posting will get deleted. Then they whine that "it's unfair we can't lure suckers in and underpay them!!!"

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    Vex Boxx
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is there a reason (other than the obvious one) to not link this to the original reddit thread? If you're going to mine reddit for content, at least link up the content you're appropriating.

    cameron cross
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interviewed with big name accounting firm in 2015. Position required a TS/SCI clearance. They wanted to pay $30k to me work INSIDE OF DC (No repayment for parking) (20 years of experience, active clearance), and had to work 60 hours a week. Yes, big company, not a startup. Beware of working for some companies!

    Steve Flynn
    Community Member
    5 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing worse than a " Company Man". They get sh!t on all the time and grateful!

    Ivy at Eve
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I shocked the HR person at an interview once by stating that an interview goes both ways.. no, I was not hired but I've seen the people who worked there coming in and there were some red flags in the interview too that made me decide to accept aneway.

    You stole that from Robocop
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At my previous place one of staff made a massive balls up in our billing system upgrade and had no rollback plan. I worked 72 hours solid 6 hours sleep to manually roll the databases back. No overtime but got a 12% bonus that year, and asked for a job title change, which got me a 10% pay rise too. Current place plays overtime and bonus so no biggy.

    J Célèste Kee
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Startups aren’t above federal labor law. If those employees aren’t classified as exempt (which they likely aren’t unless they’re C-suite) and they don’t get overtime pay, the employer is stealing their labor. They’re also taking a big risk that employees don’t know their rights and no one will get disgruntled and sue for back payment. Absolutely the hell not indeed.

    Ron Waldrop
    Community Member
    1 year ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    Certain professions are not 9-5…..medicine Always hire those occasionally willing to go above and beyond…uncompensated. Supportive families understand the requirements for succes.

    Tyranamar
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm in medicine. I get Paid hourly. When my company tries to make my job harder by making my electronic medical records bulky with excessive documentation I write down the extra hours it takes me to do things this new way. Then I give them the option to either pay me, give me more admin time, or change the system. Spoke to an employment attorney and it's illegal for them to expect me to do hours of uncompensated charting. So no, not medicine. And guess what? They paid up then changed their demands. It's OK to respect your own time. Even in medicine.

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    Mike F
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder if the "brass" would forgo their compensation in the same situation? My money is on absolutely not.

    Guess Undheit
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's just like companies that don't put the pay in the ad and then call YOU a "red flag" if you ask how much. In my line of work and the places people post jobs, they're required to list the salary and/or hourly - and if they don't their job posting will get deleted. Then they whine that "it's unfair we can't lure suckers in and underpay them!!!"

    ADVERTISEMENT
    Vex Boxx
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is there a reason (other than the obvious one) to not link this to the original reddit thread? If you're going to mine reddit for content, at least link up the content you're appropriating.

    cameron cross
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interviewed with big name accounting firm in 2015. Position required a TS/SCI clearance. They wanted to pay $30k to me work INSIDE OF DC (No repayment for parking) (20 years of experience, active clearance), and had to work 60 hours a week. Yes, big company, not a startup. Beware of working for some companies!

    Steve Flynn
    Community Member
    5 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing worse than a " Company Man". They get sh!t on all the time and grateful!

    Ivy at Eve
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I shocked the HR person at an interview once by stating that an interview goes both ways.. no, I was not hired but I've seen the people who worked there coming in and there were some red flags in the interview too that made me decide to accept aneway.

    You stole that from Robocop
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At my previous place one of staff made a massive balls up in our billing system upgrade and had no rollback plan. I worked 72 hours solid 6 hours sleep to manually roll the databases back. No overtime but got a 12% bonus that year, and asked for a job title change, which got me a 10% pay rise too. Current place plays overtime and bonus so no biggy.

    J Célèste Kee
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Startups aren’t above federal labor law. If those employees aren’t classified as exempt (which they likely aren’t unless they’re C-suite) and they don’t get overtime pay, the employer is stealing their labor. They’re also taking a big risk that employees don’t know their rights and no one will get disgruntled and sue for back payment. Absolutely the hell not indeed.

    Ron Waldrop
    Community Member
    1 year ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    Certain professions are not 9-5…..medicine Always hire those occasionally willing to go above and beyond…uncompensated. Supportive families understand the requirements for succes.

    Tyranamar
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm in medicine. I get Paid hourly. When my company tries to make my job harder by making my electronic medical records bulky with excessive documentation I write down the extra hours it takes me to do things this new way. Then I give them the option to either pay me, give me more admin time, or change the system. Spoke to an employment attorney and it's illegal for them to expect me to do hours of uncompensated charting. So no, not medicine. And guess what? They paid up then changed their demands. It's OK to respect your own time. Even in medicine.

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