If you ever went “oh, a man wrote this” (and I couldn’t count the number of times I have!) while reading a piece of prose, this subreddit community is just for you. “Men Writing Women” is a hugely popular subreddit founded by Meg Vondriska, an advertising social strategist on the East Coast of America, who’s had enough of male authors depicting female characters in an unrealistic, often very sexualized and gendered manner.
“The more I started to notice it in the books I was reading, the more I was frustrated and wanted to talk about it,” she told the press. Today, the subreddit is fully dedicated to sharing samples of “how men who create films, books, TV, and graphic novels characterize women,” and no longer buying into it.
Let’s see what examples the community has busted so far, and after you’re done, be sure to check out part 1 of the article right here.
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Who Knew Ladies Were Like Capri Suns!
There's also a wee label, much like the sign here sticker on a document. The man gets to keep this and wear it.
And a red strap as the boxes of la vache qui rit.
Load More Replies...I think he was drunk and hit on a mannequin. That's why he found "no opening" :))))
Can we also just notice the smirked deviously line? Like he just knew it was going to be "that" way. And the narrator explaining her own experience to her. This is some quality writing. I breathlessly can't wait to not read the rest.
Reminds me of the old joke. He: if I'd known you were a virgin I would have taken my time. She: if I'd known we had time I'd have taken my tights off
Oh How The Turn Tables
Those same 12% probably think they could win a fight against Ronda Rousey too.
Fellas! You'll never even see it coming. You can't hit what you can't see.
What are the odds of her serving a double fault? That would be the odds of me winning a point against her.
There is a video out there of her playing against two or three men. They are scrambling and stumbling the entire time.
“110 Pounds Soaking Wet, With A Heavy Chest And An Ass That Would Get Any Man's Attention”
“Can you ask the waiter for our bill?” “Don’t worry, my ass will do it”
I’m 110 lbs I think, and I’m fourteen- does the author realize that 110 pounds is not a healthy weight for someone who has a heavy chest and a butt that gets attention?
Not real sure this person would have legs. Or arms. Probably not even a head. Which, frankly, for some men, leaves just the important bits.
Load More Replies...I'm just picturing a skinny woman with tits hanging past her waist and a warning sign on her backside.
"110 pounds soaking wet, with dwarfism, a heavy chest and an ass that would get any man's attention." There. Fixed it.
I'm reminded of one time, in a loose online RP, where a new person came in describing their character as "less than a hundred pounds, most of which was tit". The other regulars and I were laughing so hard at them we couldn't even interact meaningfully with their character - as if one could interact meaningfully with a pair of tits on legs.
The author I think, has an imagination limited to cartoon vision. Welcome to the male world view.
you can't be double cheeked up, WD40 chesticles, and be 110lbs soaking wet
Previously, we spoke to the creator of the “Men Write Women” Twitter page, Meghan Vondriska, about her project that finally busts the sexist depictions of women by male authors. "Women just want to be written as human. That's it. There isn't some wild scientific equation to writing women, and it isn't difficult. Write them as human, with complex feelings, not as body parts that happen to be put together into a feminine form," she commented.
Meghan created this Twitter account in order “to craft a consistent narrative and to build a community that wasn’t hidden behind anonymity,” she said referring to the origins of her project.
Monster Hunter Memoirs: Grunge By Larry Correia And John Ringo. "Narrow Hips That Showed She Was A Virgin" Uh... Excuse Me? I Don't Think You D**k Is Special Enough To Widen Hips
What happens is, the penis goes in and then the man uses the little crank in his balls to open it up like a speculum, changing the shape of the pelvis. After piercing the tamper-proof seal, of course.
Load More Replies...What’s more disturbing is that he is actually describing a prepubescent child.
Sadly pedophilia/ephebophilia isnt that hidden as we would think. You can find very easily people (sadly specially men) who prefer child like bodies, desire teenagers or use porn whise characters resemble children or teenagers.
Load More Replies...So we get hips when we have sex? Dude, you need to get back to biology class.
As soon as you have sex the first time your hips blow up like a dirigible.
I'm a virgin...oh dear. What am I going to tell my parents? I have big hips.
Load More Replies...Yes, your pelvic structure widens... AFTER CHILDBIRTH. And apparently, minds narrow shortly after first breath, it seems.
I had someone in high school say “you know someone has had sex if they have a thigh gap” like… what?
I feel this might be more horrible than thought: of course girls with "small hips" are virgins, this may refer to them as they are still children before puberty kicks in. -.-
So having read the actual book, He is describing a giant spider monster who has taken the form of an anime girl. The description is there to tell you this is how a monster see's the stereotype and gets it weird and wrong as is intentionally creepy.
Should Have Put This Up Sooner
A throbbing jazz cafe sounds like a busy place where you probably have to wait ages for your coffee whilst listening to someone doing terrible amateur scat.
Scat? I don't know that term when it comes to music - I only know it as sh!t. Do not google amateur scat! You'll get amateur vids of people pooing and peeing.
Load More Replies...I want to know too... need to save for student loans
Load More Replies...It sounds like one of those names you get by combining things, like "her throbbing" + your 5th favorite genre of music + the last place you bought something.
at this point, anything can be used as a euphenism, I take it? Pulsating Pizza Parlour? Quivering Coca Cola? .... ok kill me
I Am Losing My Mind At This Passage
Yeah, having breasts act like flaccid penises is hilarious.
Load More Replies...They aren't testicles they dont withdraw or whatnot when we get in a cold pool 🤦♀️
I wish I could have my boobs withdraw into themselves. Handy when jogging!
Sometimes I get the ol' Sad Boob Syndrome too. I have to coax them back out with chocolate and compliments
If anyone had bothered to tell me that my breast could withdraw themselves I would've bought many more button down shirts.
She should have those breasts checked. Retracted breasts might be a sign of breast cancer.
no wonder I don't have huge tits, they've withdrawn in on themselves because I'm depressed. duhh
Having said that, Meghan believes that there are excellent male writers who can indeed write women. "Terry Pratchett is wonderful, and I've yet to see a submission from Michael Crichton." Meghan added that she’s a Pratchett fan.
"Pay attention to what you're reading, and who you're reading. You have to make sure your bookshelf isn't made up of just men. Add in some spice—some female authors, some nonbinary authors, authors of color. And lastly, just because you were assigned a book in high school, doesn't mean its good!"
Vintage Wonder Woman Is Something Else
Less feminine vanity and more that pulling out eyelashes f***ing hurts, I'd imagine.
honestly it was a bad habit of mine when i was younger, and it didn't hurt
Load More Replies...Considering Marsden, her creator was openly sexually submissive to his wife and their third (female) partner I doubt he wrote this.
The author of WW had invented the lie detector (polygraph) and had a fetish of bondage. Dr. William Moulton Marston.
Yup, that is why a lot of vintage WW looks like a BDSM graphic novel.
Load More Replies...Not A Description Per Se But I Feel Like It Definitely Has The Spirit Of This Sub
Or... Indiana Jones. Indiana is not a man's name, necessarily. No need to change at all!
Load More Replies...When i was a kid i thought it was a woman before watching the movie
Load More Replies...Better idea: Just don't do a female Indiana Jones movie. The brand is dead after Crystal Skull and nobody asks for feminist reboots. Coming up with an original female role would be cool for once
And if it must be some sort of reboot, make her her own person. Maybe Indie's granddaughter. Not just a rehash
Load More Replies...Right? Jones is a last name and Indiana could also be a girl's name. You could change the real name to Henrietta. It's that easy. Oooh! What about a movie featuring Indy's granddaughter (or great granddaughter, depending) and have it take place in the modern era. And she's inherited the whip and references Grandpa Indy all the time.
Does anyone out here know anyone whose first name is Jones? I don't.
Not personally, but there are plenty in the States: https://www.mynamestats.com/First-Names/J/JO/JONES/index.html
Load More Replies...Is-... Is She A Gecko?
Haha I can't stop picturing this gorgeous woman stumbling around hacking and half blind because she's got her eyelashes stuck in her mouth again while batting them at the no doubt unparalleled super manly main character. Haha oh man, it hurts. I can't stop laughing
No, no, she can't hack. Mouth made for kissing, remember?
Load More Replies...Obviously describing a giraffe. They can lick their ears so why not the lashes too. Lol
Does she use her long lashes for cleaning out the deep recesses of her navel, so she can examine further inside?
She could probably root around in her deep-cut chin, too.
Load More Replies...But you'd need to vomit fur/lashes balls, as your cat.
Load More Replies...I can't even reach the tip of my nose with my tongue, so those eyelashes would have to be at least 5 - 6 cm long. That's not sexy, that's creepy, like some kind of insect with antennae
These Examples Of Bad Writing From The Latest New Yorker Issue Killed Me
Who keeps grapes in their bible? They'd get all squishy and stuff...
Ummm... 1. WTF 2. She has fibrocystic breast disease and 3. no, that long after death, really not white as snow, it's a lot more manky.
Clusters of grapes?! How many breasts did she have?! Also, which passage in the Bible mentions breast grapes?
The Song of Songs, also called Solomon's canticle.
Load More Replies...The second one reads like he had a friend check the manuscript and they asked "What do you mean 'her breasts were like clusters of grapes'?" And he stammered "Y'know..umm..like..in the bible" and the thought "Better put that in so people know."
This person should quite possibly be banned from any future writing. Those can't be the only screw ups.
“Occasional Vaginal Discharge” You Mean That Thing That Everyone With A Vagina Gets And Is Completely Natural All Of The Time?
"Oh noooo, not the thing keeping my vagina clean of infections and making sex enjoyable. How awful." *sarcasm ends*
Pleas do, sir, and I'll say, "Yes, which beats the ooze between your ears, sir."
First time I see a reference about my 11th great grandfather... Not sure how I should feel about it 😂.
Load More Replies...You can just tell that this comes from a jerk who wears the same skidmarked skivvies four days in a row. Ewwww.
I'm more than a little ashamed to say I grew up with a single mom and two sisters, studied medicine, and have spent a great deal of time with various vaginas (I was a s**t in my 20s) and legit never knew this was a thing everyone got. No one ever talks about it.
Speaking for myself...that's ok. Nobody ever talked about it with me either. It's just one of those things I learned eventually from friends.
Load More Replies...Then perhaps she should counter with your crusty stained socks she finds under the bed. Now there's some unwashed laundry .
*RMS Aquitania horn because the stinky tugboat horn doesn't do it justice*
Load More Replies...If this is YA, well, I cannot tell you how mortified I would’ve been if somebody spread the rumor that I had occasional vaginal discharge when I was 13-15.. and that’s just the right age where kids are cruel enough to do that.
in the Gor series, they have this strange method of telling if a woman likes a man. They put their hand on her crotch, and if it's wet she likes you. Like .... no clue.
Well.. bit forward, but there is some basis in reality there..
Load More Replies...Just Saw This And It Reminded Me Of This Sub
I love the mental image of a man lordly standing in front of the porcelain throne, conjuring thunderous splashings of pee while mine has to find its way through the maze of my innards. He gets to majestically drown the rubber ducks - I have to pray my liquids don't take an internal wrong turn and end up in the nose.
And they can't always "conjure it immediately". Especially if they have prostate issues..it seems this author doesn't know anything about women OR men. Maybe they're a space alien in disguise?
Load More Replies...Refer all to a map of the man's vas deferens. And all human intestines. And... y'know, forget it.
One where he was taught that a woman's urinary tract was a maze. Probably one the uterus wanders around
Load More Replies...And David Bowie. . . and a bunch of baby thieving goblins. . .
Load More Replies...Vaginas Are Just Quick-Access Pockets. Santa Fe Edge By Stuart Woods
Some street people too. Used to know a policewoman who said when she was a young cop she got to do all the female "inspections" at time of arrest and was often pulling rolls of cash out of vaginas.
Load More Replies...So THAT'S why we don't get real pockets in our pants...I've been living all wrong.
In the end we are gonna have to stick our things in there cause noone is listening that WE WANT POCKETS!!!!!
Load More Replies..."Money first, and then the pill." "Wait a second, let me just... it was in here a second ago. There it is, got it"
"I was worried I'd lost it, but I had just been looking in the wrong pocket"
Load More Replies...😳 Retailers don't accept boob money (i.e from inside a bra), they sure as heck fire ain't accepting something that comes from inside an actual orifice!
Well, the text says the money was in a capsule...
Load More Replies...Seriously, as a cop let me tell you it's a stone fact that orifaces are frequently used as extra pockets by both genders
This Is How Women Cope With Loss According To Haruki Marukami (1q84, An International Best Seller)
Kissing the homies good night to a whole new level
Load More Replies...Funny, when a friend of mine died her t*ts didn’t even occur to me…I wonder what he will mourn when his mother dies?
his momma breast feeded him for wayyy to long... Would explain his boob obsession
I read the trilogy. Not my fav by Murakami. But the character IS a bit strange, and this passage fits with her strange personality.
I'm reading this book. His character Aomame is a strange lady who doesn't think like you do. Without photos, she can only mourn her deceased friends' breasts. I get the character, but maybe that's because I'm reading the book instead of just negative reviews.
What's her thing with breasts though? Like, did her friends not have any other defining features that she might use to identify them? Like personalities? Voices? Or does Aomame just fixate on breasts to the exclusion of all other characteristics because she has some mental health issues or something?
Load More Replies...I didn't like the 1Q84 bookseries in particular, but the other books from him are really good. He can write woman, but this one was not good.
I agree. One of the problems of the book was that the protagonist was a woman. If he writes something like that from the view point of an adolescent boy it would be not asonly ridiculous, because.... boys.
Load More Replies...I used to love Murikami (Windup Bird, Kafka, Hard-Boiled Wonderland were some faves). But the female protagonist in IQ84 is distractingly two-dimensional often described with typical male fantasy notions like 'the type of girl who is beautiful but didn't know it.' Psshhhh, please! It was so bad that when I tried to go back an reread the books of his I liked, it was like the veil had dropped and I could see echoes of the same problematic writing in earlier work.
Forget Alarm Clocks
Gods, I hate when they're up before my coffeemaker is done.
Load More Replies...Now we know why Japan keeps getting earthquakes. It's the anime girls.
Somehow a weird kind of disney porn just popped into my head - dancing, singing boobs and all... XD
The only time my boobs have woken me up is because they're sweaty lol
Or if they get squashed under you sleeping on your stomach. That hurts too
Load More Replies...Possibly only true for generously proportioned vampire ladies who have chosen to sleep in a tree on a particularly windy day... LOL
You know what? I'm genuinely curious how did you come up with that imagery. xD
Load More Replies...I think context is necessary - does it imply that somebody did *it* while she was still asleep?
As A Woman Who Totally Is Not Donald Trump Himself
Bahaha, someone did the research: 'The Washingtonian was unable to find any record of a Carolin Gallego as secretary to Trump and said that it was not out of the question that Trump himself had written the letter.'
It reads like Trump speaks. He totally wrote it.
Load More Replies...I feel like Cheeto Mussolini wrote this himself and had his secretary put her name on it.
God bless you... This might be the single greatest nickname I've come across for him
Load More Replies...It sounds like something he would write/say about himself. “The best man! The most desired man. The sexiest man. Everybody agrees!”
Did…did Donald write this himself? If sounds like he wrote this himself.
Pants So Tight You Could Read The Expiration Date Of A Credit Card
That's why you can read the expiration date, "she" tried to shove the credit card in as far as it would go, but it's just one corner stuck in the pocket.
Load More Replies...To be fair, he just seems like a terrible writer…ignorant yes, but also just bad.
Schmuck who does a certain webcomic in which women superheroes make jokes about how much they love fellatio during live press conferences once complained about how difficult it was to "write feminist dialog." (Let's just say you would not be surprised by the other stuff he posts on the Internet.)
Somewhere out there is living proof that a male author can write an authentic female protagonist, but this m**o ain't it.
If you like horror, I highly recommend Grady Hendrix. Almost all of his books are told from the POV of a female protagonist, and they’re amazing.
Load More Replies...All I can imagine is trying to sit down and how hard those trousers would cut into the corners where the thighs join the torso.
I am pretty sure for the expiration date to be visible through - those pants' pockets would have to be vacuum sealed...
I think this is what men think it is to be a woman. They don't seem to understand that no woman views herself as a walking sex advertisement and that that would lead to being harrassed and possibly raped at every turn.
A Man Describing His Dream Woman [“The Dark Forest”, Cixin Liu]
Ah the old "too much learnin ruins women" stereotype. At one point people thought reading would drive women mad too
"Oh, no! I'm insoluble calcium compound!" moans every woman with a PHD.
Load More Replies...Is 'calcifies her' code for 'has a high enough earning potential and status to not need to politely endure about my advances
So today I learned that the verb "to calcify" has a second meaning: Transitive verb 1 : to make calcareous by deposit of calcium salts. 2 : to make inflexible or unchangeable. intransitive verb. 1 : to become calcareous. 2 : to become inflexible and changeless : harden.
TIL a Master's degree makes you more sensitive to life and the world
So this series is actually really good, my boyfriend has played this twice as an audio book in the car. Having said that, some of the English is a bit off, it was written in Chinese, I bet it is missing some elegance that got lost in translation. "The Three Body Problem" is the series name. I really recommend it.
What? She's more intelligent by the fact that she wouldn't say what she feels for these jerkers!
Book Is ‘The Spy Who Loved Me’ By Ian Fleming
This is disturbing. Makes me wonder how many rapists are convinced that their victims "love rape"?
Rapists are committing acts of violence against their victims. The sexual aspect it just a weapon to accomplish it. The real problem is that the rest of society seems to think like this.
Load More Replies...That makes me angry. There will be people who believe this crap and will be rough with a woman because some idiot claims that women love to be 'semi-raped'. What kind of word is that at all?!
Unfortunately there are many men who believe this, or pretend too so they have an excuse.
Load More Replies...The whole James Bond franchise is nothing but misogynistic male fantasy fulfillment.
Except the bits with the explosions and spy stuff.
Load More Replies...Some women like consensual non-consesual sex, but only with someone they trust, after thorough discussion, and having agreed on a safe word. There, I fixed it.
Exactly, there's only rape and consensual sex, nothing in between
Load More Replies...Never ever use these words in same sentence: "rape", "every", "woman", "love"! Never!
I would love it if every man whoever raped a woman was slowly tortured to death.
Load More Replies...I feel awful for any poor woman subjected to this man's existence... If any women come within 300 feet of him, that is.
Fleming's writing is notoriously misogynistic. He also had weird ideas about gay men - like they can't whistle.
Load More Replies..."All women". English is not my first language but Imma say that's a pretty broad statement. ;)
Keeping Your Emotions In Your Nipples Since 1980 (Number Of The Beast, Robert A. Heinlein)
Hahaha. I'm sorry but I pictured a wagging nipple after that comment.
Load More Replies...Sure, you just give 'em a twist and it gushes out! Sometimes you have to twist hard. /s
Load More Replies...I can’t help but believe that this author is constantly staring at women’s chests for hints as to their mood. . . Avoiding the typical “face reading technique” used by the rest of polite society. . .
I've read that book. It's really messed up, cover to cover. This isn't even close to the most disturbing parts. Heinlein's early work was good, but his later works...
There way worse about attitudes toward women in this book. I agree. I'm often fascinated by his depictions of women. Sometimes they seem like alien robots. Sexy robot aliens. Weird, but always engaging.
Load More Replies...Did anyone else notice that there's a person called 'Sharpie'?
Does this man realize that he has nipples, as well, and if he can read a woman's a woman can read his...Grrrrrrrrr
That bit always struck me as really weird when I read that book. I'm almost afraid to re-read Heinlein's books, how much more of what he wrote gives away just how little he understood women?
Ew. Summer Knight By Jim Butcher
Her hair sounds awesome. But, if her shirt had been hacked off at the top of her rib cage, were her breasts, which were straining the fabric, sitting on her collar bone?
I'm glad I'm not the only one that realized that Jim Butcher has no sense of anatomy.
Load More Replies...Unfortunately, this happens a lot in Jim Butcher's writing. Not always so creepy, but 90% of yhe new female characters he describes tends to be cringey at best throughout The Dresden Files, and ALWAYS sexual in some way save like one major character. :/
Yeah, I love his books, but sometimes (a lot of times) I cringe at his descriptions of women.
Load More Replies...Young. Old. Whatever, I'm annoyed she hacked the shirt off at the top of her rib cage ie; at her collarbone. What's up with that? Or did author mean at the bottom of the rib cage?
His books are so good, but the descriptions are really cringe-worthy at times.
Same here. I returned one of them and then stopped. Loved the tv series though.
Load More Replies...She.. hacked the shirt off at the TOP of her rib cage. Sooo... Just sleeves and shoulders?
"Not How Sex Works" From "Ritual" By David Pinner, Plus Generic Nipples
I’m kinda curious how one might train to flex one’s breasts. Mine just sort of hang there.
Load More Replies...Trying to flex my breast towards stuff. It’s not working, mine’s broken.
Try eavesdropping at keyholes, apparently it will make your breasts tense.
Load More Replies..."she had gone through men like an enema" Did...did they swallow her, or shove her up their butts?
I am starting to feel like my breast/nipples are failures. They don't tell the weather, they don't indicate my emotions, they have never (to my knowledge) dismantled a bomb. I am reading about all of these amazing breast that have all these cool features that mine don't. Mine just sit there, useless, doing absolutely nothing while I slave away, day in and day out, to pay for their bras. Kind of feels like these authors view breast as their own sentient and autonomy.
I feel like they see women just as a jumble of lips, breasts and butts. We are actual persons, don't you get it?
"For the Moment she was a houseplant and she loved it-" wtf?!
I'm most concerned about why David is licking a faded dancer off the wallpaper
Right! The whole text around these passages are TRASH! Too funny!
Load More Replies...[the Things They Carried By Tim O'brien] Reading A Book For English Class And Found These...
Probably lots of unwanted d**kn pics...and lots of horrible writing like this
Load More Replies...Honestly, if men actually go around thinking like this it’s probably kinder to have them put to sleep.
So her legs are virgin but not her eyes? What about the rest of her? What about her ears? Or her left elbow? Are they virgin? We need to know!
I think it’s about two different characters. One is glorifying virginity and the other is comparing lack of virginity to lack of a soul.
Load More Replies...You just start to grow leg hair once you have sex... And just after you had your first time you can start using lotion
Jeez, if her eyes look flat and uninvolved she does *not* want to kiss you, and feels trapped into going along with it.
My leg hair indicates my status? Oh this is gonna freak out my husband something fierce.
If I'd known giving up my virginity meant a lifetime of shaving my legs I might have reconsidered.
She's small, has no body hair, and is wearing gym shorts. She is a child. He is describing a prepubescent child in a sexualized way.
I’m Speechless??
While that's true, I'm fairly sure that the average person would stop, drop and roll if two of them were confined to their shirt. Should I ever become emperor of the world, I shall have my enemies executed in this fasion.
Load More Replies...Let's be very clear, if she was running and her breasts were bouncing about that is really uncomfortable and she's have clasped one of her forearms across her chest to keep them still. But why on earth did she turn up to play paint ball without a bra on?
Don't judge until you've had to run with two pit bulls trying to escape from your shirt.
Poor little baby, “learning about paintball...” It’s sounds so hard! 🙄
Yes, Because I Really Need To Know That The Lost 9yr Old Doesn't Have Breasts. Thanks, Stephen King
Not even children escape having their breasts described, even if it's to point out their lack of said breasts. Like that's something normal people deliberately observe about a child.
King isn't normal and spent at least a decade on so much coke he doesn't remember it. Let's hope this was from the coke period
Load More Replies...Misogyny is *one* reason I stopped reading SK a couple decades ago.
And his tendency to sexualise young girls. It's sickening.
Load More Replies...I love Steven King's books, but he has been notoriously awful at writing women. The only purpose of female characters in his novels, it seems to me, is to get raped and/or abused (preferably form childhood), be pregnant/give birth, get period, or, as a love interest/family of a protagonist, get killed or threatened by a monster, which scares or traumatizes the protagonist. One exception that I came across was Annie from "Misery" - a true female villain, a little cliche but what villain isn't. We need more of those.
This is from his book, The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon, and this was typical thought of the character, not Stephen King personally, and this book is a wonderful read of a girl who got lost in the woods and is fighting her way back home with only the twists SK can bring to a story.
As a fan of Stephen King I can say this is taken way out of context. He does not include these kinds of things haphazardly without first explaining the character and their mentality initially. It's part of what immerses the reader into his worlds because he makes you care for the characters as if they're real people. This is taken out of context.
No one needs to describe a child's breasts weather they exist or not.
Load More Replies...Taken out of context this sounds cringy, but Ki g wouldn't include this out of the blue. This is a little girl (with a celebrity crush) lost in the woods with nothing but her own thoughts and imagination for company, and I am pretty sure that this is a reference back to a train of thought she's had earlier in the scene musing about her body including wondering when her breasts will begin to develop.
Stephen King is a very good writer. I'm surprised he'd write something like that. Did it make sense in the context? Because it may have made sense in the context.
Every Adjective I Could Come Up With To Describe How Reading Things Makes Me Feel Pales In Comparison To This Monstrosity Of A Paragraph
Wtf? Cannibalism fetish erotica? That's the only thing that makes this description make any kind of sense. And even then...I need to go look at some cute puppy pictures to forget this post ever existed.
And words. He also hates words. Doesn't understand either.
Load More Replies...Completely out of context, the line "transparency, the thief of imagination" is actually a pretty good line. Purely out of context of course.
Is she a zombie? Cause that is the only way this would make sense as suet is specifically fat surrounding organs, which you should never ever see. Either that or he is a Hannibal Lector wanna be
“Women” By Charles Bukowski. I Could Highlight The Whole Book
I've never understood why anyone would read the second sentence of anything Bukowski wrote.
Are we going to ignore the fact that he said "my mother is dead" and immediately decided "yeah, f*****g will work"
Load More Replies..."her mental deficiency" ... so basically this whole thing is "lets take advantage of someone who is mentally disabled" ... thats f*****g sick and whoever wrote this should be locked up somewhere jfc.
And SHE SAID NO. Yet he still continues to try to convince her. I feel sorry for the women this author meets, if he thinks that’s acceptable behavior.
Load More Replies...If this is a published novel, then my four year old cousin has a chance in the literary world.
Sometimes I look at my old writing and think it's s**t, but then I remember that this somehow got published.
Load More Replies...Someone PUBLISHED this???!!! Seriously - so many things wrong. To begin with, April has not given what's his face an express 'YES' meaning that if he had sex with her, it would be rape. Also, he sexually assaulted her when he didn't ask for consent to kiss her. Ugh!
Some men do that - go in for the kiss w/o permission!
Load More Replies...Any book by Bukowski is just a continious asssault on good taste, if you ask me. I'm actually quite disturbed how many men love his shitty, insulting writing.
Is She Really A Woman If Her Boobs Are Not Described?
Ah yes, another tragic loss in the age-old Battle of the Breasts, this time to those perfidious adversaries Age and Gravity. Will this world ever emerge victorious, with all women gloriously endowed with perfect figures? Or will men have to continue the nightmare existence of crying at the sight of a woman who is clearly having a Pretty Bad Day?
Let's start writing about men like this. "He slumped down the stars shirtless, in once white once tight briefs that gapped at the legs; allowing his old soggy testicles, defeated by age and gravity, to droop sadly out of one side. His hair was gone from his head, instead absently wandering south to his shoulders, sprouting from his ears, his back, his nose and down to his toes. His bush still retained a bit of color, like the crest of a bird attempting to attract a female; but the dead worm hanging from it, barely visible through the thread bare fabric, showed its defeat. His eyes were puffy and half shut, hard to tell apart from the bushy hedge of eyebrows dominating them. The sight of him nearly brought her to tears. From the third step he said, "Mandy, come to bed. There's nothing more we can do tonight."
"His gut hung over his pants that he was unable to button any longer while his comb over waved at me as he lumbered down the steps"
Notice his defeat by gravity and age is not mentioned....but is safely inferred, methinks.
For context I am a 33 year old lesbian. Now, personally I prefer women older than me. Most of my ex's are in their 40's. Women get sexier with age. Those breasts may not be as perky as they once were, but they're more fun to play with I say!
Oh My.. (Shane Dawson, I Hate Myselfie)
Not only is the description ridiculous, I would think for a musical casting director, voice should matter first and looks second.
Neh. Everyone can (learn to) sing, but not everyone is pretty. And pretty sells.
Load More Replies...Sometimes I think I really made a good decision with never becoming a fan of him. He's a real creep.
Load More Replies...The few times I've written about men's emotions and/or physical reactions I have passed every word by more than one male. Every male author who isn't an idiot should be doing the same thing -- I'm sure they could find at least a few women who would tell them their writing is sh*t.
They don't care about a woman's opinion or they wouldn't keep writing this trash.
Load More Replies...Lalalalalalala. . . .I like big butts and I cannot lie , So she can hit them notes way up high , gotta have that thunder thigh , and a sparkle in that doe eye
This was marketed as a book for kids/teens, by the way, and apparently includes quite a few details on nasty sexual s**t he's done (including with animals). My stepbrother had this book when he was around 10-12. Ugh... can't stand this guy.
For kids??? Not appropriate for teens either!
Load More Replies...i have less of a problem with this one, because it feels more like he's trying to characterize her and this is kind of a funny way to do it
I’m Just On Page 3 Of This Book, And This Is The Detective’s First Thoughts On The Mother Of A Kidnapped Child
How ridiculous. I can cook up similar nonsense in a swift. ”Chad had massive hangover. Not just from excessive drinking but he had made a total fool of himself in front everybody. His di*c was looking pale and wrinkly and his balls were pulsing from shame.’ Or ’she took a closer look at Andrew. He was late twenties but already his hair was thinning. He was tall and and had exactly 2.2 pounds extra weight but was oddly soft and pale like bag full of dough. His stance hinted he had only ejaculated in his hand for last 14 years and his eyes indicated that he had severe mommy issues.’
Oh, please write a whole story like that and post it where we can read it.
Load More Replies...A few pounds overweight? That is absolutely impossible. Perfect weight doesn't exist, it's always a range, and you can't tell the difference, especially while clothed, between a few pounds more or less than a certain weight. I dropped 10kg and people other then me and my SO can't even tell.
Like throwing a deck chair off the Queen Mary 😁
Load More Replies...Glad to see this detective is putting the thesaurus he got for Christmas to good use.
Concupiscent??? YES, I know what that means, but rly??? And blowzy just lols
Fuuuu... They’re Onto Us
Ah Yes, What A Classic Mother-Daughter Interaction
Do men think women do that to each other when there are no men in the room? Cos, you know, we don't, just FYI.
I knew that, what made you think I didn’t. *Over radio* get those cameras out of that room, NOW!! (I hope I didn’t need to clarify that that’s a joke)
Load More Replies...I (a woman) have been known to very briefly squeeze my sister's boob for fun, and vice versa. But it wouldn't happen with my mum!
Women Enjoy Being Groped If It's On A Body Part They're Proud Of, Implies Saul Bellow In 'The Adventures Of Augie March' (1953), A Book Considered To Be In Contention For The Title Of Great American Novel
1. WTF? 2. How does he know what they're proud of? 3. How does one put ones hands on her color?
that is the question of the century.
Load More Replies...You’ve Got To Love Ian Fleming The Sexist Misogynist Dinosaur And Relic Of The Cold War
He also misspelled "ransom" but again the whole Bond Franchise is essentially soft core, male fantasy fulfillment porn. The women aren't real people and are given the most ridiculous names and outfits ( looking at Pussy Galore here, but there is a whole parade of them)
"These idiot men who thought they could do women's work. Why the hell couldn't they stay in the garage and stick to their cars and hammers and stick to their stained jeans and beer and leave the women's work to the women. And now for this to happen to her, just when the job had come off so beautifully. For Harley to fall for an old trick like that and get himself snatched and probably held for ransom like some bloody hero in a strip cartoon. That stupid bastard."
So you want me to go to the place with the knives and heavy metal things after making me so angry? Is that really a good idea?
Well, not everything a character says or thinks represents the author. In this case, I've no idea whenever it does or not.
I Am So Tired Of Seeing This Phrase. Just Let Women Cry! Why Are You Trying To Be Attracted To Them When They’re Sad?
No one is pretty when they're really crying. Only in books and movies does this phenomenon exist.
There can be exceptions. I recently watched 'Another Oh Hae Young' and the FL looked absolutely stunning even when she was crying.
Load More Replies...I suppose, "pretty crying" for them is like when you hear a sad song that vaguely reminds you of something that happened 15 years ago and your eyes get slightly wet. When a person cries because they actually experience something traumatic, it's never pretty.
Ah Yes This Is How A Dad Sees His Fifteen Year Old Daughter [dragon Heart: Stone Will, Kirill Klevanski]
The fact that her skin is whiter than snow is already concerning me. She seems incredibly iron deficient, at the very least.
That and the fact that her waist is so thin "one could wrap their hands around it and almost touch their fingers together" sounds like she may be malnourished or have an eating disorder.** ** Just wanted to say that theres no shame if someone has a waist thats just naturally that small (and I have seen them naturally that small) but I havent seen many that small, and the size of the hands doing the wrapping matters**
Load More Replies...I Don’t Know About You But I Always Introduce My Friends To Strange Men This Way.
Apple Fires Ex-Facebook Hire After Becoming Aware Of Misogynistic Viewpoints From Best-Selling Book. This Is What Is Written In The Book
Is this one of those things- Tell us no one will have wet with you, without saying no one will have sex with you - ?
Whereas, presumably, everyone will be crying out for a writer/social media employee to be on their team.
Wow that made me angry to read. Is it not the guys who are taken out by a simple cold while women walk around constantly with less intense labor pains?
Well, the epidemic plague has come, and guess who turned out to be a useless waste of space? Hint: not the women of the Bay Area
Starts Early. LEGO Star Wars Phonics
Everything about Anakin and Padme's relationship was deeply disturbing, so this fits the source material and the way the character still had no personality, despite Natalie Portman being a great actor
Yeah. I am glad that in the Clone Wars they show more how intelligent and brave she is and how she fights as a politician to help others. In the 2nd and 3rd movies she is just "the main characters love interest".
Load More Replies..."I like watching you sleep. It's kind of fascinating to me." Stefanie Meyer, why?
Shame On All Of You Fashion Hussies!
Looks like 300 years of the bible didn't save society. Maybe we need a new book that wasn't written by a bunch of men?
Fashion Magazine Girl looks like waaaay more fun to hang out with.
How Do You Know That A Man Wrote A Female Character - She Thinks Too Much About Her Nipples, Complains About The Waitress Not Smiling Enough, And Worries About Calories Despite Having A Perfect Body. For Some Context, This Is A Horror Novel Where She's Just Encountered A Terrifying Monster
To be fair, I'm pretty fit and don't watch my calories but too much glory dessert might make me feel guilty as well
Load More Replies...Ah Yes, How Comforting For A Woman To Have Men Stare At Her Back! (Death’s End, By Cixin Liu)
Ah Yes, Only Women’s Personalities Are Unpredictable. [2001: A Space Odyssey By Arthur C. Clarke]
Honestly, I love the sci-fi from that era for many reasons, but as a girl and then a woman, I just have had to grit my teeth through some of the misogynistic nonsense that was usual. A lot of fifties writing takes it for granted that being married to a woman was obviously a horrendous misery that all men had to go through, for example.
Actually if you say anything like this to my face you can probably predict what I'm feeling based on my face
Anti-Gravity Bewbs "Rendezvous With Rama" Arthur C. Clarke
Won't somebody pleeeeeease think of the poor men and their uncontrollable urges??
My friends make this joke every time I wear a tanktop or shorts
Load More Replies...This man shouldn't be allowed to be around women...
Ah yes, Three Gender. MEN, WOMEN and MONKEY( it's a joke)
Ken Follet Is One Of My Favorite Authors, But Lately He Has Been Really Putting Me Off. This Is Just Gross
Dear Stephen King, Gravity Is Still Very Much At Present When We're Laying Down [from His Book The Stand]
Or he's only seen women with silicone implants that went rock-hard with scar tissue. I used to see a woman at a pool I frequented like that. Even doing back stroke hers were pointing straight up.
Load More Replies...Hahaha Imagine how funky it would be to have breasts SO perky that they point straight up while laying on your back
Magical Hymen Restoration (The Daylight War By Peter V. Brett)
Once again the idea that this is some freshness seal is so harmful. Women are killed because men think they aren't virgins because it doesn't pop or bleed or whatnot and they demand virgin brides
There are cultures in which mothers provide their daughters with fake blood capsules for their wedding nights.
Load More Replies...I never understood the fascination and/or desire for virgins. I guess the part about "not knowing" another man and the getting to " go where no man has gone before" so to speak, is understandable in an old timey, possessive way. Bit there's positive things to be said about experience. I think its better when a woman knows what she's doing, what and how she likes it, and doesnt have a problem with letting her partner know what that it. Good lovin starts with good communication.
I'm tired if saying this, but I'll say it again: Hymens can break from simply walking! We. Can. Still. Be. Virgins. Without. One.
“Waited As Patiently As Her Sex Would Permit”
Oh the Monkey's Paw. In fairness this was written in the late Victorian or early Edwardian period, but yep we discuss the causal sexism every time we read it in class
"Her Ovaries Rotating In The Estrogen Broth" -- From The Short Story "Joy Of Life" By Alessandro Manzetti
I'm guessing they were in liquefied pods, like cocoons and a butterflie's metamorphosis.
From Bapsi Sidhwa's Cracking India
The Rest Of The Book Included Similarly Horrendous Descriptions Of Teenagers (Hope I Got The Time/Flair Right, It’s Wednesday In Australia!)
I was about to comment that, this is an extract from sharp objects. None the less some of her portrayals of women are a bit inaccurate.
Load More Replies...Starvation Only Makes A Woman Sexier, Didn’t You Know? I Found This On Facebook And I Don’t Even Know Where To Start
In An Article About The First Pregnant Mummy To Ever Be Discovered. Even In Death
I don't see how this is describing something unrealistic or sexual. They're simplying saying the mummy's hair was intact, it was long & curly, & it went down to the breasts, which had been preserved in the mummification. Honestly, I didn't know hair or breasts were preserved in mummification because in books & lessons they don't talk about female mummies. It's kinda cool to know that these things stay preserved.
Can you imagine a writer/journalist feeling it necessary when writing about a male mummy to mention his mummified penis?
If the mummy was pregnant when interned, the breasts would be pretty relevant as well.
Artemis By Andy Weir
These men don't even see women as persons, they see them as jumble of lips, boobs, butt and big eyes or whatever. According to them we have no personalities, no character, no values other than our bodies, or even just by body parts, and possibly virginity. It's so gross how they perceive one whole gender as just "walking desirable parts" and even think that we perceive ourselves in the same way. Gross!
100 percent agreed. Maybe authors should understand that women are people, before they try to write them. Also, that vaginas are not easily accessible pockets that we use for things.
Load More Replies...When I took a Women's Literature in college the teacher began by reading a paragraph by Norman Mailer (who I am surprised is not represented here). It literally said that only someone with testicles could be a good writer. I muttered to the woman next to me, "Maybe we should cut off Norman Mailer's balls and see if he can still write." Her loud laugh prompted the teacher to ask me what I'd said and when I repeated it she said, "You're going to do okay in this class."
Some of these should not have been allowed to be published. I‘m against censorship, and I don’t care about some idiot‘s opinion on women, but matters like paedophilia should not be portrayed as normal/acceptable.
It shouldn't be acceptable but, sadly, it's normal ("normal" here meaning things that exist and occurs with alarming regularity). And yes, it should be allowed to be published. Even in fiction we need to face the darker sides of humanity.
Load More Replies...Mostly perverts writing for other perverts. Who else would buy this rubbish?
They truly are a different species. It's a wonder we can procreate.
Load More Replies...Two years ago I had both my breasts removed because of cancer. Now I'm wondering how I did it all this time. I mean, I lost my moral barometer, my personal alarm clock and my pitbulls.
This really helps me feel like I can finish my book. Not a single sentence about sad or pouting breast
The saddest aspect is not the bizarre, worrying perception of women (both anatomically and psychologically), but that all of these writers think that they are being oh-so-clever and creative. Not just 'think' it, but almost certainly believe deeply in their writing prowess. If that wasn't the case, they would have thrown it out as unmitigated sh1te just ten seconds after first typing it!
Okay now I know there are in fact male authors out there who are actually awesome and write women in a great way and actually see us as people. But because of way too many examples of this, there's a reason almost any book I read, I tend to prefer female authors just so I can stay clear of crap like this.
Can you give me some examples for male authors who write women well? Because I honestly can only think of authors that very obviously don't and authors that are just about okay.
Load More Replies...These men don't even see women as persons, they see them as jumble of lips, boobs, butt and big eyes or whatever. According to them we have no personalities, no character, no values other than our bodies, or even just by body parts, and possibly virginity. It's so gross how they perceive one whole gender as just "walking desirable parts" and even think that we perceive ourselves in the same way. Gross!
100 percent agreed. Maybe authors should understand that women are people, before they try to write them. Also, that vaginas are not easily accessible pockets that we use for things.
Load More Replies...When I took a Women's Literature in college the teacher began by reading a paragraph by Norman Mailer (who I am surprised is not represented here). It literally said that only someone with testicles could be a good writer. I muttered to the woman next to me, "Maybe we should cut off Norman Mailer's balls and see if he can still write." Her loud laugh prompted the teacher to ask me what I'd said and when I repeated it she said, "You're going to do okay in this class."
Some of these should not have been allowed to be published. I‘m against censorship, and I don’t care about some idiot‘s opinion on women, but matters like paedophilia should not be portrayed as normal/acceptable.
It shouldn't be acceptable but, sadly, it's normal ("normal" here meaning things that exist and occurs with alarming regularity). And yes, it should be allowed to be published. Even in fiction we need to face the darker sides of humanity.
Load More Replies...Mostly perverts writing for other perverts. Who else would buy this rubbish?
They truly are a different species. It's a wonder we can procreate.
Load More Replies...Two years ago I had both my breasts removed because of cancer. Now I'm wondering how I did it all this time. I mean, I lost my moral barometer, my personal alarm clock and my pitbulls.
This really helps me feel like I can finish my book. Not a single sentence about sad or pouting breast
The saddest aspect is not the bizarre, worrying perception of women (both anatomically and psychologically), but that all of these writers think that they are being oh-so-clever and creative. Not just 'think' it, but almost certainly believe deeply in their writing prowess. If that wasn't the case, they would have thrown it out as unmitigated sh1te just ten seconds after first typing it!
Okay now I know there are in fact male authors out there who are actually awesome and write women in a great way and actually see us as people. But because of way too many examples of this, there's a reason almost any book I read, I tend to prefer female authors just so I can stay clear of crap like this.
Can you give me some examples for male authors who write women well? Because I honestly can only think of authors that very obviously don't and authors that are just about okay.
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