“Kate Was Absolutely Terrible In Her Teenager Years”: Dad Doesn’t Pay For His 23 Y.O. Daughter’s Plane Ticket But Covers The Younger Daughter’s Ticket Interview
Every family is different despite the concept that we all go through more or less the same things. Probably a lot of us had to go through some hard times, especially when we were kids and teenagers, and we thought that our parents didn’t understand us or that we were adult enough to make our own decisions. The parent-kid relationship tends to change when we grow up, as, in a lot of cases, people realize that their parents only wanted the best for them and parents reach a point where they understand that it’s best for them to let their children go, explore the world, make mistakes and learn from them. But sometimes even when people grow up, their relationship with their parents sometimes hits a rough spot. Having this in mind, Reddit user @u/Minute-Common-6625 decided to share a situation that he had to experience which involved his 23-year-old daughter Kate. The man shared that while planning their family vacation, he asked his older daughter if she would like to join them and if so, she would need to buy her own plane ticket. While at first Kate was okay with this request, family drama ensued after she found out that her dad had booked a trip without her since he never received the required sum from her. Not knowing if what he did was right, the Reddit user decided to ask for other people’s opinions online.
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Sometimes maintaining a happy and healthy relationship with your kids can feel like a difficult challenge
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The author of the post started his story by sharing that he has two daughters: 23-year-old Kate and 16-year-old Alexa. The man provided a little bit of background information about his family, revealing that his older daughter was a troubled kid, and so once she turned 18, her mom asked her to leave her house. This is why Kate then started living with her dad, Alexa, and OP’s girlfriend. He shared that now the 23-year-old works at a fast food restaurant and is saving up for her own apartment. For this reason, she lives rent-free at her dad’s house and doesn’t have to pay for any additional costs.
Reddit user revealed that his family’s peace was disrupted after his 23-year-old daughter didn’t agree to pay for her own plane ticket
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The dad is also raising a 16-year-old, Alexa, who, as he presented, is the opposite of her half-sister Kate: she is a bright student who has a lot of extracurricular activities and is interested in many things, such as volunteering and sports. Knowing how hard she is working, the dad decided to plan a family vacation, this way honoring Alexa’s dedication. The man invited Kate too, asking her to pay for her plane ticket. The daughter agreed and so the dad then told her when he expected her to give him the money so he could book the trip. However, even after reminding her about the whole thing, OP never received the needed sum from his daughter.
The man lives with his girlfriend and two daughters, age 16 and 23
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The man wanted to surprise his younger daughter by taking her and the whole family for a vacation
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The man proceeded with his plan and booked the trip, sharing this news with the family over the dinner table. While Alexa was happy with the news, Kate told her dad that he would have to cancel the trip because she works on that date. The man told her that he won’t have to do that because she’s not going anyway, since she didn’t pay for her ticket. After hearing this, the argument started because the 23-year-old thought that her dad paid for her to go. However, the man didn’t see the need for this as his daughter works and could’ve paid for herself.
The man asked his older daughter if she would like to join, stating that she would have to pay for her own plane ticket
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The situation reached the point where OP found out that his daughter has been talking about this situation on her social media, making a TikTok video where she explained everything from her point of view that did not necessarily cover the truth. While the man’s girlfriend thinks he did the right thing by not paying, the man has now started doubting his decision, seeing how much negativity it has caused.
The man never received money from his 23-year-old daughter and proceeded to book the trip without including her
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Bored Panda contacted the Reddit user to find out more information on the matter. The author of the post shared that he was surprised, revealing that he only posted this story as the situation didn’t allow him to sleep. Little did he know that people would get so interested in the whole story, sharing their points of view or even judgment. The man stated that he has an update on the situation; however, he did not yet want to share it, wanting things to fall back into place. He revealed that his daughter Kate has seen the post after seeing it on TikTok.
The daughter got so upset with the whole situation that she decided to share her side of the story on social media
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The story that was shared on Reddit divided its users into two categories: those who thought that dad favored one daughter over the other and those who agreed with the dad and him wanting his adult daughter to pay for herself. Knowing that OP read these comments, we were curious to know what his thoughts on this were: “A lot of people were bringing their own personal family dramas and projecting that onto me. A lot of people assumed my daughter had autism or ADHD and said because they related to Kate and they have a mental health problem, Kate must have it too. I tend to ignore those opinions and focus on unbiased ones,” shared the Reddit user.
The man started doubting his decision and this is why he decided to ask others for help in seeing if he was right
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To those who struggle to have a harmonious relationship with their kids, the dad explained: “In the beginning of your child’s life, you have to put in effort and give them love, support and encouragement. Once they are an adult, though, it now goes both ways. Once a child is now an adult, everything they do in their lives is their choice, you can only offer your opinion and support.”
What do you think about this situation? Don’t forget to leave your thoughts in the comments down below!
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The story divided users online into two groups, those who supported the dad’s decision and those who thought that he was showing favoritism
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Sooo, Kate said she wanted to go on the trip, said she would pay. But she never paid, said she can't come since she has to work, and wanted that everyone cancels the trip. Of course she did not want to pay, it was her plan all along to cancel last minute, so there would be no refund. If it indeed had been a scheduling issue, then she would have called her dad the moment she realised she could not come. And now she's pissed that her plan backfired.
Well, not really. The favoritism in this family is so toxic, and from what I read, this father made it pretty much impossible for her to go on this trip. He is clearly using this to reward one daughter and punish the other. He didn't really ever invite her. When you read between the lines you can see a 23 year old who has never been treated like part of the family and desperately wants to be included. There are always 3 sides to a story, each person's side and the truth. We are hearing 1 side, and from just the way he described his daughter and Kate (he never called Kate his daughter, only Kate, yet only called Alexa his daughter, huge red flag) I think there is a lot more to all of this and his version is far from the truth.
So, to follow your logic, if Kate went out and shot up a bank but Alexa won an Olympic game, you consider that favoritism to be toxic? Not once did the dad say he wasn't proud of Kate, but you spun it like he loathes her. Kate wants attention and she wants to be in control of the narrative that she takes for granted. She knew the trip was coming but didn't take the necessary actions to get time off or pay for it. Where's her money going if she's living there for free? Why should her sister have to get s**t on because of her selfishness? It's not favoritism, it's life; if you work hard you get rewarded, not the other way around, unless she plays the lotto, which is essentially what she did. Then she threw a tantrum, which didn't sway the dad, and rightfully so. Then she threw an even bigger fit online to rally people against her family who have been supporting her for free because she's a petty narcissist. Kate sucks.
There is a huge difference from shooting up a Nanking and being terrible in the high school years. Seriously. There is no excuse for how this father talked about her and if this is just how he talks about her, I guarantee he treats her worse.
Acknowledging that someone is an adult, responsible for their own actions, and isn't behaving in an adult manner, isn't favoritism. There's no, "reading between the lines." You respond to the facts that you have. You can't adlib things in, and address only what you want to see. Assuming the father is being honest with himself, he will do his best to protect both girls. If he truly didn't care about Kate, he wouldn't be housing her for free, and he wouldn't have invited her. Also, badmouthing your family on social media, asking for money for a vacation from strangers, and screaming that she hates her father is very indicative of a girl who isn't acting her age.
Yes! Exactly. Thank you.
It is not favoritism. Kate is an adult. Alexa is only 16.
She's a working ADULT of 23, she isn't entitled to a free vacation at dads expense especially since she isn't contributing to household expenses.
OMG you're f*****g brilliant, I didn't even see that, it's true.. her scheme backfired.
Kate didn't know the dates so she couldn't put in for those days off. The father booked it without telling her the dates. I do not like the favoritism though. He doesn't give Kate credit for working hard and saving money. Also it's not a family trip if the whole family isn't going. She is part of the family. He is causing resentment between the sisters. They need family therapy.
Didn't the dad say he booked the trip without her cause she didn't give him the ticket money? I assume that means that if she did, she would have been in the loop about the dates.
Yes. Thank you.
I agree they need family therapy. However, I've got to disagree with some of your other points. I haven't seen anything to state Kate didn't know the dates of the holiday before the dinner when Alexa was told, Kate knew the holiday was planned and knew the deadline to pay her share. If she didn't know the dates, she could have asked before the dinner. For all we know, she ignored the dates like she'd ignored the reminders to pay and 'forgot' she'd have to pay her own ticket when she started saying the thought OP would be paying for her. And it is not unusual for parents to plan trips with younger children, excluding the elder kid(s) once the older kid(s) are working.
He asked her for her money, twice. When she didn't he booked the trip to accommodate him and the rest. Sorry, but if she had forked over the cash, she would have had a say on the dates.
Her dad told her about the trip and she said she'd get the money to him by Halloween, she didn't and now she thinks she deserves free room, no bills and a vacation? Do you have kids? Have you ever dealt with a adult kid that believes they're deserving when they do nothing to earn it? I'd put money on the fact if she did help with bills & a little rent, her dad wouldn't have minded paying her ticket but, that's not our little Kate, is it?!
How can anyone call this man TA. He has one child who is 16 and at school and under age, and one who is a 23yr adult living with him rent and expenses free. He had the discussion well before booking the holiday with the adult, who agreed to pay. They were reminded, and still didn’t. They then tried to manipulate the situation further by setting the underage daughter to feel pressured and bullied, and even ran an essentially fake gofundme. This is entirely on the 23yr no matter how people try it spin it “because of language used” or whatever else. He has not created a “toxic situation” in the family either, she has, despite his efforts to help her by fully funding her life while she saves for a flat. It blows my mind that people turn to reddit for advice on these things, because no matter what a bunch of couch psychiatrists are going to chip in and overlay their own personal issues just to add to the drama, because that’s what they read AITA for, their daily dose of drama and to feel important by offering their “advice”.
I don't see how people can think he is NTA?! I can guarantee that "Kate's" behavior has a lot to do with the very obvious favoritism she has probably endured for a very long time, along with depression, and unresolved trauma, and being remjnded about all her failings constantly. 1st red flag, the OP always called Alexa his daughter, and Kate by just her name. 2nd red flag, the way he described them. So, Kate had a hard time in her teen years. It sounds like she needed love, stability, and therapy. Why the he did he not try and get her help? Behaviors like that don't manifest for no reason out of the blue. Also, he said she was better, so why are the times when she was having trouble, and the OP was not the primary caregiver even bringing it up. 3rd Red flag, Kate lived with her mom, but Alexa has always been with her dad, which means he is much more involved in her life. Alexa also lost her mom, which usually causes the other parent to go overboard in trying to make up for the pain the child has gone through. I mean, did you all read what I did? Just the whole way he even described them, not 1 good thjng about Kate, not 1 negative about Alexa. This is a Golden Child/Black Sheep scenerio and extremely dysfunctional. I screwed up royaly when I was 19 and had some mental health issues and didn't have the best behaviors. My sister was stable as could be and never gave them any trouble, and my brother rebelled a bit in high-school, but nothing more. yet, if they were doing a family vacation where they were paying for 1 kid, they would ALWAYS include the others. They always said they will never use family vacatios, time, or holidays as punishment. Hell, they never felt they had to punish me, the instead got me the help I needed and supported me and never made me feel less than my sister or brother, ever. I am now a successful and happy member of the worldand take them on vacation. It is amazing what fair treatment, support, and unconditional love can do instead of comparison, put downs, and favoritism. This guy is definitely TAH! And for all the "she is 23 and Alexa is 16" people, that was never really the point the OP was trying to make. He never said that "she is an adult and we expect her to pay, as we would Alexa once she was 18" this is all about rewarding one daughter with a family vacation and agreeing the other daughter could come, but only if she paid as a punishment. I mean, he didn't even really include her in the 1st place. This dad is a douche!
I'm really not sure how I feel about the situation overall, but I certainly wouldn't blame Dad for not having anything nice to say about Kate. He's pissed off at her right now, and I would be too. It's difficult to list positive things when you're pissed. After her going on TikTok, I'd be pissed. Again, I'm not sure where my opinion really falls here, but you may be taking your own experience too much into account here.
if a parent has nothing nice to say about their child, that's a really big red flag for me
He pays her bills, she's living rent free, dad's being overly generous and from Kate's fit she's used to getting her way. I see no favoritism, she said she'd pay him by Halloween and didn't, her little scheme backfired, that's where the pitching a fit comes in, she's used to getting what she wants.
Let me guess, another teen that knows everything? What daughter did should get her thrown out of the house, at 23 she should be a LOT more mature and responsible than she is. Dad has been far more than generous.
Yes!! Exactly!
I don't agree. You can be mad at your children, but that doesn't give you the right to treat them poorly, and he is treating her, and has treated her poorly. I am sorry, but I have been pissed off beyond pissed off at my husband, yet I would still treat him nicely kmay not speak to him for a bit besides everyday logistics of having a home together and parenting)and I could still list off tons of qualities he has and things i like about him, same with my child. I can be angry and dislike the behavior, but not the person. Kate is more than her behavior, yet the parent doesnt see or acknowledge that. Same with Alexa, she is more than her behaovor. Everything this father does regarding Kate is extremely toxic. She obviously feels like she is not part of the family, and instead of being pissed and blasting her on reddit (which is the same as her going on TikTok) he should have seen that his family needs help and start trying to do everything he can to build a better relationship.
Could not agree more! I am a family therapist and this post screams dysfunction. This parent is 100% the a*****e and more than likely the cause of most of Kate's issues.
I have to wonder how many families fail due to your "therapy" if you're this biased and prone to jumping to conclusions based on minimal information.
I have to wonder why you, a random internet dude, are criticizing a licensed professional working with what is likely more information than they get in some cases
Not a very good one from your obvious bias. She's 23 and an adult, dad owes her nothing, and has already been far more than generous.
None of us know enough to make a definitive judgement. Family dynamics SUCK at the best of times, and this one is worse than most. Hopefully Kate sees a therapist once she's finally out of her father's house.
Oh my god. What the hell woman? After saying she'd pay her way, she didn't then, threw a fit, jumps on social media and cries bs tears to score free money? She lives rent & bill free and now she wants a free vacation. The adult woman needs to grow up and take responsibility for herself, her dad owes her nothing, she set up a illegal GoFundMe, the girl sounds like a nightmare to live with.
Her dad also told someone in a answer that he did the same kind of things for Kate when she was growing up as well. Did anyone else see that? It seems he wanted test her responsibility and see if she would follow through with their plans, but she didn't. Then she made some decisions that affected the family in a negative way. I just keep thinking that he would be rewarding negative behavior and that wouldn't be good for her to develop any respect for what it means to live as a adult. We don't know her background and I do believe therapy could help. I hope all or at least Kate has some at some point.
Kate’s behaviour has nothing to do with Alexa. There is a 7 year age difference between them. Kate is functionally an only child. When Kate was 16, Alexa was 9 and living with their Dad.
You're throwing the baby out with the bath water! Those aren't issues he's asking about. She didn't give him the cash SHE SAID SHE WOULD, besides her comment "can't go, gotta work" a throw away. For a teenager to get on social media and lie about her situation and cry crocodile tears to score free cash,, besides it being illegal she's a con artist and entitled.
I'm with the dad... You really don't know what it's like to see your older sister be cared for in every aspect for the rest of her life, while the other, younger child gets occasional special event. You can't even imagine how much time, money and support the older sister has gotten. As an adult, I get to spend time with my dad like maybe a week every few years. My older half sister, his ex-step daughter, lives rent free, with him paying for food, utilities and spends an enormous amount of time with her and the child that wasn't taken away. If my dad flew my sister out, and paid for it, when he comes to visit me, I would be so upset... She gets everything and the special time I have with him is taken up by the leach.
Agree 💯💯💯💯
The younger child is receiving the same, unless he has hersleeping in the shed? They both get housing, shelter, and transportation. A family vacation should include all who *can* attend. Making Kate pay for her ticket is a bit douche in that scenario. However, this was a special trip for the younger girl, then having dad pay for all but older working daughter's transportation, isn't.
I think dad should throw her out of HIS house, he isn't obligated to support her but he is...she clearly doesn't want to be an adult.
His own writing indicates his favoratism.
Completly agree.
It's kind of gross that this guy repeatedly refers to Alexa as "my daughter", but Kate is only ever "Kate", sometimes even in the same sentence. Kate's reaction was way out of order, and it is not unreasonable to expect an adult child to pay for a trip themselves (though less so when they are still a dependent and not expected to pay for bills or rent perhaps), but I am getting major favoritism vibes and feel like there is a reason why Kate acted out so much whilst Alexa is clearly treated like the golden child. ESH but dad most of all. He should be helping his eldest with her issues like a good parent, not continually putting her down
Kate's behavior is a product of her environment, always being second, the black sheep. I hated the way that father talked about her.
WTH? The girls a nightmare and a con, she set up a illegal GoFundMe, lied, used crocodile tears for free cash.
She seemed to easily say "I'll get the cash to you by Halloween" then she doesn't, her comment "can't go, gotta work" both seem to of been forgotten. I think she was pulling a fast one by not paying her way then, claiming she had to work. She wanted a free vacation she didn't earn, her little sister did. What kind of spoiled brat sets up a illegal GoFundMe because they're pissed about not getting a free vacation. I think the girls a nightmare.
He says she works at a fast food restaurant. Nobody in their right mind can say that you can afford a plane ticket, ON TOP OF saving for an apartment, with that kind of salary.
Sooo, Kate said she wanted to go on the trip, said she would pay. But she never paid, said she can't come since she has to work, and wanted that everyone cancels the trip. Of course she did not want to pay, it was her plan all along to cancel last minute, so there would be no refund. If it indeed had been a scheduling issue, then she would have called her dad the moment she realised she could not come. And now she's pissed that her plan backfired.
Well, not really. The favoritism in this family is so toxic, and from what I read, this father made it pretty much impossible for her to go on this trip. He is clearly using this to reward one daughter and punish the other. He didn't really ever invite her. When you read between the lines you can see a 23 year old who has never been treated like part of the family and desperately wants to be included. There are always 3 sides to a story, each person's side and the truth. We are hearing 1 side, and from just the way he described his daughter and Kate (he never called Kate his daughter, only Kate, yet only called Alexa his daughter, huge red flag) I think there is a lot more to all of this and his version is far from the truth.
So, to follow your logic, if Kate went out and shot up a bank but Alexa won an Olympic game, you consider that favoritism to be toxic? Not once did the dad say he wasn't proud of Kate, but you spun it like he loathes her. Kate wants attention and she wants to be in control of the narrative that she takes for granted. She knew the trip was coming but didn't take the necessary actions to get time off or pay for it. Where's her money going if she's living there for free? Why should her sister have to get s**t on because of her selfishness? It's not favoritism, it's life; if you work hard you get rewarded, not the other way around, unless she plays the lotto, which is essentially what she did. Then she threw a tantrum, which didn't sway the dad, and rightfully so. Then she threw an even bigger fit online to rally people against her family who have been supporting her for free because she's a petty narcissist. Kate sucks.
There is a huge difference from shooting up a Nanking and being terrible in the high school years. Seriously. There is no excuse for how this father talked about her and if this is just how he talks about her, I guarantee he treats her worse.
Acknowledging that someone is an adult, responsible for their own actions, and isn't behaving in an adult manner, isn't favoritism. There's no, "reading between the lines." You respond to the facts that you have. You can't adlib things in, and address only what you want to see. Assuming the father is being honest with himself, he will do his best to protect both girls. If he truly didn't care about Kate, he wouldn't be housing her for free, and he wouldn't have invited her. Also, badmouthing your family on social media, asking for money for a vacation from strangers, and screaming that she hates her father is very indicative of a girl who isn't acting her age.
Yes! Exactly. Thank you.
It is not favoritism. Kate is an adult. Alexa is only 16.
She's a working ADULT of 23, she isn't entitled to a free vacation at dads expense especially since she isn't contributing to household expenses.
OMG you're f*****g brilliant, I didn't even see that, it's true.. her scheme backfired.
Kate didn't know the dates so she couldn't put in for those days off. The father booked it without telling her the dates. I do not like the favoritism though. He doesn't give Kate credit for working hard and saving money. Also it's not a family trip if the whole family isn't going. She is part of the family. He is causing resentment between the sisters. They need family therapy.
Didn't the dad say he booked the trip without her cause she didn't give him the ticket money? I assume that means that if she did, she would have been in the loop about the dates.
Yes. Thank you.
I agree they need family therapy. However, I've got to disagree with some of your other points. I haven't seen anything to state Kate didn't know the dates of the holiday before the dinner when Alexa was told, Kate knew the holiday was planned and knew the deadline to pay her share. If she didn't know the dates, she could have asked before the dinner. For all we know, she ignored the dates like she'd ignored the reminders to pay and 'forgot' she'd have to pay her own ticket when she started saying the thought OP would be paying for her. And it is not unusual for parents to plan trips with younger children, excluding the elder kid(s) once the older kid(s) are working.
He asked her for her money, twice. When she didn't he booked the trip to accommodate him and the rest. Sorry, but if she had forked over the cash, she would have had a say on the dates.
Her dad told her about the trip and she said she'd get the money to him by Halloween, she didn't and now she thinks she deserves free room, no bills and a vacation? Do you have kids? Have you ever dealt with a adult kid that believes they're deserving when they do nothing to earn it? I'd put money on the fact if she did help with bills & a little rent, her dad wouldn't have minded paying her ticket but, that's not our little Kate, is it?!
How can anyone call this man TA. He has one child who is 16 and at school and under age, and one who is a 23yr adult living with him rent and expenses free. He had the discussion well before booking the holiday with the adult, who agreed to pay. They were reminded, and still didn’t. They then tried to manipulate the situation further by setting the underage daughter to feel pressured and bullied, and even ran an essentially fake gofundme. This is entirely on the 23yr no matter how people try it spin it “because of language used” or whatever else. He has not created a “toxic situation” in the family either, she has, despite his efforts to help her by fully funding her life while she saves for a flat. It blows my mind that people turn to reddit for advice on these things, because no matter what a bunch of couch psychiatrists are going to chip in and overlay their own personal issues just to add to the drama, because that’s what they read AITA for, their daily dose of drama and to feel important by offering their “advice”.
I don't see how people can think he is NTA?! I can guarantee that "Kate's" behavior has a lot to do with the very obvious favoritism she has probably endured for a very long time, along with depression, and unresolved trauma, and being remjnded about all her failings constantly. 1st red flag, the OP always called Alexa his daughter, and Kate by just her name. 2nd red flag, the way he described them. So, Kate had a hard time in her teen years. It sounds like she needed love, stability, and therapy. Why the he did he not try and get her help? Behaviors like that don't manifest for no reason out of the blue. Also, he said she was better, so why are the times when she was having trouble, and the OP was not the primary caregiver even bringing it up. 3rd Red flag, Kate lived with her mom, but Alexa has always been with her dad, which means he is much more involved in her life. Alexa also lost her mom, which usually causes the other parent to go overboard in trying to make up for the pain the child has gone through. I mean, did you all read what I did? Just the whole way he even described them, not 1 good thjng about Kate, not 1 negative about Alexa. This is a Golden Child/Black Sheep scenerio and extremely dysfunctional. I screwed up royaly when I was 19 and had some mental health issues and didn't have the best behaviors. My sister was stable as could be and never gave them any trouble, and my brother rebelled a bit in high-school, but nothing more. yet, if they were doing a family vacation where they were paying for 1 kid, they would ALWAYS include the others. They always said they will never use family vacatios, time, or holidays as punishment. Hell, they never felt they had to punish me, the instead got me the help I needed and supported me and never made me feel less than my sister or brother, ever. I am now a successful and happy member of the worldand take them on vacation. It is amazing what fair treatment, support, and unconditional love can do instead of comparison, put downs, and favoritism. This guy is definitely TAH! And for all the "she is 23 and Alexa is 16" people, that was never really the point the OP was trying to make. He never said that "she is an adult and we expect her to pay, as we would Alexa once she was 18" this is all about rewarding one daughter with a family vacation and agreeing the other daughter could come, but only if she paid as a punishment. I mean, he didn't even really include her in the 1st place. This dad is a douche!
I'm really not sure how I feel about the situation overall, but I certainly wouldn't blame Dad for not having anything nice to say about Kate. He's pissed off at her right now, and I would be too. It's difficult to list positive things when you're pissed. After her going on TikTok, I'd be pissed. Again, I'm not sure where my opinion really falls here, but you may be taking your own experience too much into account here.
if a parent has nothing nice to say about their child, that's a really big red flag for me
He pays her bills, she's living rent free, dad's being overly generous and from Kate's fit she's used to getting her way. I see no favoritism, she said she'd pay him by Halloween and didn't, her little scheme backfired, that's where the pitching a fit comes in, she's used to getting what she wants.
Let me guess, another teen that knows everything? What daughter did should get her thrown out of the house, at 23 she should be a LOT more mature and responsible than she is. Dad has been far more than generous.
Yes!! Exactly!
I don't agree. You can be mad at your children, but that doesn't give you the right to treat them poorly, and he is treating her, and has treated her poorly. I am sorry, but I have been pissed off beyond pissed off at my husband, yet I would still treat him nicely kmay not speak to him for a bit besides everyday logistics of having a home together and parenting)and I could still list off tons of qualities he has and things i like about him, same with my child. I can be angry and dislike the behavior, but not the person. Kate is more than her behavior, yet the parent doesnt see or acknowledge that. Same with Alexa, she is more than her behaovor. Everything this father does regarding Kate is extremely toxic. She obviously feels like she is not part of the family, and instead of being pissed and blasting her on reddit (which is the same as her going on TikTok) he should have seen that his family needs help and start trying to do everything he can to build a better relationship.
Could not agree more! I am a family therapist and this post screams dysfunction. This parent is 100% the a*****e and more than likely the cause of most of Kate's issues.
I have to wonder how many families fail due to your "therapy" if you're this biased and prone to jumping to conclusions based on minimal information.
I have to wonder why you, a random internet dude, are criticizing a licensed professional working with what is likely more information than they get in some cases
Not a very good one from your obvious bias. She's 23 and an adult, dad owes her nothing, and has already been far more than generous.
None of us know enough to make a definitive judgement. Family dynamics SUCK at the best of times, and this one is worse than most. Hopefully Kate sees a therapist once she's finally out of her father's house.
Oh my god. What the hell woman? After saying she'd pay her way, she didn't then, threw a fit, jumps on social media and cries bs tears to score free money? She lives rent & bill free and now she wants a free vacation. The adult woman needs to grow up and take responsibility for herself, her dad owes her nothing, she set up a illegal GoFundMe, the girl sounds like a nightmare to live with.
Her dad also told someone in a answer that he did the same kind of things for Kate when she was growing up as well. Did anyone else see that? It seems he wanted test her responsibility and see if she would follow through with their plans, but she didn't. Then she made some decisions that affected the family in a negative way. I just keep thinking that he would be rewarding negative behavior and that wouldn't be good for her to develop any respect for what it means to live as a adult. We don't know her background and I do believe therapy could help. I hope all or at least Kate has some at some point.
Kate’s behaviour has nothing to do with Alexa. There is a 7 year age difference between them. Kate is functionally an only child. When Kate was 16, Alexa was 9 and living with their Dad.
You're throwing the baby out with the bath water! Those aren't issues he's asking about. She didn't give him the cash SHE SAID SHE WOULD, besides her comment "can't go, gotta work" a throw away. For a teenager to get on social media and lie about her situation and cry crocodile tears to score free cash,, besides it being illegal she's a con artist and entitled.
I'm with the dad... You really don't know what it's like to see your older sister be cared for in every aspect for the rest of her life, while the other, younger child gets occasional special event. You can't even imagine how much time, money and support the older sister has gotten. As an adult, I get to spend time with my dad like maybe a week every few years. My older half sister, his ex-step daughter, lives rent free, with him paying for food, utilities and spends an enormous amount of time with her and the child that wasn't taken away. If my dad flew my sister out, and paid for it, when he comes to visit me, I would be so upset... She gets everything and the special time I have with him is taken up by the leach.
Agree 💯💯💯💯
The younger child is receiving the same, unless he has hersleeping in the shed? They both get housing, shelter, and transportation. A family vacation should include all who *can* attend. Making Kate pay for her ticket is a bit douche in that scenario. However, this was a special trip for the younger girl, then having dad pay for all but older working daughter's transportation, isn't.
I think dad should throw her out of HIS house, he isn't obligated to support her but he is...she clearly doesn't want to be an adult.
His own writing indicates his favoratism.
Completly agree.
It's kind of gross that this guy repeatedly refers to Alexa as "my daughter", but Kate is only ever "Kate", sometimes even in the same sentence. Kate's reaction was way out of order, and it is not unreasonable to expect an adult child to pay for a trip themselves (though less so when they are still a dependent and not expected to pay for bills or rent perhaps), but I am getting major favoritism vibes and feel like there is a reason why Kate acted out so much whilst Alexa is clearly treated like the golden child. ESH but dad most of all. He should be helping his eldest with her issues like a good parent, not continually putting her down
Kate's behavior is a product of her environment, always being second, the black sheep. I hated the way that father talked about her.
WTH? The girls a nightmare and a con, she set up a illegal GoFundMe, lied, used crocodile tears for free cash.
She seemed to easily say "I'll get the cash to you by Halloween" then she doesn't, her comment "can't go, gotta work" both seem to of been forgotten. I think she was pulling a fast one by not paying her way then, claiming she had to work. She wanted a free vacation she didn't earn, her little sister did. What kind of spoiled brat sets up a illegal GoFundMe because they're pissed about not getting a free vacation. I think the girls a nightmare.
He says she works at a fast food restaurant. Nobody in their right mind can say that you can afford a plane ticket, ON TOP OF saving for an apartment, with that kind of salary.