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Groom Returns The Dress His Ex-Wife Got His Daughter For The Wedding, Major Drama Ensues
Groom Returns The Dress His Ex-Wife Got His Daughter For The Wedding, Major Drama Ensues
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Life after an unsuccessful marriage can sometimes be troublesome. Quite often the difficulties are related to the actions of one’s ex-partner. Especially when there are children involved.

Redditor u/Throwaway2119766 opened up about it to the AITA community. His ex-wife bought a dress for their daughter to wear at his upcoming wedding. Unfortunately, the clothing was not appropriate for the occasion, nor to the daughter’s liking. Therefore, dad returned the dress, which ended in a huge fight with the ex and left him wondering if he’s a jerk.

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    This groom-to-be had to resolve wedding-related problems caused by his ex-wife, who got their daughter involved in it, too

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    It is important to follow the required dress code and certain unwritten rules when it comes to the wedding attire

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    There are plenty of unwritten rules and interesting customs dictating the dos and don’ts of wedding attire. For instance, red is typically a color that should be avoided, as it might be too attention-grabbing. However, in China, red is a traditional color for a wedding dress. In Norway, for example, it’s not surprising if a bride comes wearing a crown.

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    When it comes to clothing on such occasions, the requests of the happy couple should always be taken into consideration. They spend long hours planning the celebration and usually have an image in mind of how they want everything to look, including the style of their guests. A specific dress code can actually benefit the invitees—it narrows down the options when choosing what to wear becomes a headache.

    Children are often the reason ex-partners stay in touch after the divorce

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    Even though the divorce rate went down in the last decades, quite a few marriages are not able to stand the test of time. According to Gitnux, there’s one ending every 42 seconds in the US alone. However, as the OP’s case shows, that doesn’t mean that all ties are cut between the former partners. Children are often one of the reasons why.

    It’s because of their daughter, the dress she received, to be more exact, that the father had to have contact with his ex-wife. He thought the piece of clothing the woman chose was not right for the occasion and believed she did that on purpose. Usually it’s inappropriate to wear white to a wedding, unless you’re the blushing bride.

    Feeling animosity towards your ex or their new partner can negatively affect your mental and physical health as well as the well-being of the children

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    For whatever reason, the OP’s ex-wife decided to go with white for her daughter’s dress. Likely because, according to the groom-to-be, she wasn’t very fond of his new girlfriend. Feeling animosity towards the new romantic interest of your ex-partner is not unusual. Each person has their own reason why, but it can be related to the realization that they’re moving on.

    According to the author and clinical psychologist Ann Gold Buscho, seeing them continue their lives with someone else, especially if you feel stuck, can lead to disliking the ex-partner themselves. “You think you may never move on. You can’t stop thinking about the divorce. It’s become an obsession that you can’t let go. It is interfering with your work, you can’t sleep, and you’re watching a lot of TV while you eat junk food. All you think about is negative, you can hardly remember anything good about your ex anymore,” she wrote in Psychology Today.

    However, hatred towards your ex or their new partner rarely leads to anything positive. Ann Gold Buscho pointed out that it can negatively affect your mental and physical health, as well as your co-parenting abilities. It is essential to remember that children also suffer the consequences of the divorce, and it’s important not to make it worse than it has to be.

    “Your children need you to be relaxed and calm when they talk about their other parent. If you try to win them to your side, you risk damaging your long-term relationship with them. It is not healthy for kids to be put in the middle of your adult conflict,” Ann Gold Buscho emphasized.

    The OP provided more information by answering some of the comments

    Community members had loads to say on the topic, most of them agreed the OP was not a jerk

    Some people, on the other hand, thought that everybody in the story can be considered jerks

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    Miglė Miliūtė

    Writer, Community member

    A writer here at Bored Panda, I am a lover of good music, good food, and good company, which makes food-related topics and feel-good stories my favorite ones to cover. Passionate about traveling and concerts, I constantly seek occasions to visit places yet personally unexplored. I also enjoy spending free time outdoors, trying out different sports—even if I don’t look too graceful at it—or socializing over a cup of coffee.

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    Libstak
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He could have avoided any drama by just taking his daughter shopping and letting her choose what she wants to wear. The white dress could stay in its box or potentially be used for a debutante ball or homecoming formal depending on where they live. The ex wife doesn't need to know any more about it until post wedding photos show up, she can scream all she likes then and get exactly nowhere fast.

    MoMcB
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, just say thanks, smile, and go and buy his daughter a dress she wants.

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    KMill
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn’t send it back, that just stirs the pot. I’d get some fabric dye and let my daughter have fun with it!

    Mim“the Swede”Sorensson
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, if sent back, maybe the ex could at least get the money back. Her saying she couldn’t doesn’t mean much. Considering it wasn’t the daughters style even it had been another colour, I mean, it doesn’t sound as if she would have worn it in any case.

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    Marno C.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The thing about showing up to a wedding in inappropriate clothes is that some deluded people think, "Haha! I am sticking it to the bride! She's going to feel sooooo upset!" But what also happens is that everyone side-eyes, gossips about, and generally sneers at the person inappropriately attired. If that person comes out of their revenge fog long enough to notice, they are shocked (!) that no-one is inspired, Spartacus-style, by the 'bravery.' They are offended, surprised, and confused that people are disgusted. Now, here, the ex was trying to use her daughter as a proxy and would have invited all of that shame and disgust onto her poor daughter (who was, thankfully, saavy to her mom's attempted insult). Setting your kid up for that sort of public ridicule makes you a gross person and a bad mom.

    Mad Dragon
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He should have just bought his daughter a dress for the wedding. He could have waited until after the wedding to tell the mom that it just wasn’t her style and she chose her own dress.

    Spencer Grady
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Take her shopping, great daddy daughter day material.

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    Liam Lowenthal
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty annoying some of the comments on ops post has such an issue with age. Within certain limits, there's plenty of couples ten, twenty years apart. Mine were 16 years apart, had me, we're perfectly happy. As long as they're not like.. a child. Like a teenager. Then.. what. What's the problem. Also, these same people seem to not know wedding etiquette. You don't wear white to someone else's wedding, much less something akin to a full blown wedding dress. The hell are these people thinking? On top of it all, as much as everyone is saying "Oh poor daughter, oh poor Miranda", nobody seems to care that she formed her own opinion and agreed it should be sent back. She's 17, not 12. I'm pretty sure she's able to form her own thoughts at this point. Another thing, how is it so impossible for a father to know what his daughters style is? She's with him often enough I assume, a parent who actually pays attention to their child would see what she wears on her own?

    Susie Evans
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP's comments suggest that Miranda lives with him since his ex-wife sent her the dress rather than giving it to her in person.

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    Moezzzz
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad married a girl I went to high school with after my step mom died. I was 22. She was 24. She made the mistake of telling me on night that she was my step mom, and I remember losing my s**t and saying "no, my stepmom passed away, YOU'RE just the rebound wife!". Granted, I could've handled that better, but, yeah. They divorced a year later. She claimed my old house was haunted. Apparently all her clothes in the shared closet would get wet and mildewed. And she'd hear voices in the house when no one was home. Lots more stories like that, and yeah, I'd like to think my mom was scaring the s**t out of that gold digger. She thought he had a lot of money after mom had died (that's what I called her), but there was nothing; everything went to medical bills (cancer). Pretty sure she's run through 3 or 5 marriages by now.

    Id row
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd honestly document all of this and bring it to my attorney to sue for full custody. That woman is unfit to be a mother if she's ok weaponizing her daughter for her own petty jealousy.

    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everybody in western culture knows that at a wedding, white is reserved to the bride (unles you are being specifically told something else), and that only a$$holes would show up in a white dress. This is in no way an "oops, didn't consider that" but an obvious attempt of sabotage, by an ex that wanted to stir up some drama. She set this up such that in one way or another, she would win. Either she would cause a scene at the wedding, or she can play the victim card and drive a wedge between you and your daughter. When put in those lose-lose situations, the wise thing to do is always to look for the third option. What I think your daugther should have done was, to thank her mother for the lovely dress, have worn it to the wedding, and send her mother pictures of it. When the mother then wondered why it was blue on the pictures, your daughter could innoscently have said "I didn't want look like a bride, as this is not my day. But I liked it, so I fixed that little detail by dyeing it".

    Ruby
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At first I judged the age difference then I realised I've fancied a guy thats 26 years older than and I currently like someone 11 years older

    Liam Lowenthal
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, my parents were 16 years apart. Happily married until they died. As "weird" as it is, as these people seem to think, it's actually not. My husband is 14 years younger than me and we're running on our 7th anniversary this year. I think age gaps, within reason, aren't strange, I think western culture is just a little sheltered.

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    Nitka Tsar
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG the headline is so confusing! XD

    Kat Min
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so ridicolous. Sometimes I wonder if most AITA posts are just fabrications. You are senidng a white ball gown to your daughter to wear t the wedding of your ex-husband? Who whould do something like that and not realoize how batsh1t crazy this looks. Not to mention risking severyl damaging the relationship with your daughter by weaponizing her and making her look like a complete fool.

    Aya Pandy
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot are but I've seen this happen irl so not sure on this one it's not the usual troll suspects

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    Jon Steensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    since when has minor chess pieces become swear words that need sensoring?

    Ash
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is BP censoring the word "p**n"? As in, from a game of chess? Or are the Reddit users misspelling it?

    Tyke
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They don't censor "Porn" though...

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    S Mi
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, OP, apologize to your daughter for her getting caught in the middle. It's not exactly OP's fault, but even at 17, she deserved to be reminded it's not her fault and things between mom.and dad are not her problem. Then take her to get a dress or outfit she actually wants to wear. Ignore ex a much as possible. If she does things like comment on social media pictures, respond with something like 'what a beautiful young woman our daughter is!' (Edit: typos)

    Tyke
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ex wife is clearly using her own daughter as a p@wn in her little game with her ex husband. That in itself is so utterly wrong - stitching her up, ignoring her feelings, putting her in a really awkward position. If I were "Miranda" I'd be moving in with Dad and would be bloody fuming with my Mother.

    Tyke
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    @BoredPanda website people, if you ever read these comments: PORN is one thing (and not a "dirty word)... P@WN is not remotely sexual, dirty or naughty. Buy a dictionary. It's hilarious you censor the one that is totally innocent and not the one that isn't!

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    Karen Bird
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the comments about the age gap are wrong. When I met my sons father, I was 22 and he was 41. I was an established adult and you can't help who you're attracted to!

    michele mbennett1010@att.net
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, it appears there's a good reason Miranda's mom is an ex. She's a controlling, entitled double boobied screaming a*****e. Dad needs to tell daughter she needs to tell her mom she doesn't like the dress and has no intention of wearing it..period. Dad and fiancee can take her shopping for an appropriate dress. Ex can go pound sand as she has no place in the wedding and needs to get over herself. Maybe Miranda might have considered saving the dress to wear at her own wedding or dying it to wear at Prom but mom's nutso reaction and questionable decisions made that impossible. Sorry kiddo but your mom's wrong on so many levels.

    Carrie Davis
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I completely disagree with the last 2 esh comments made. What exactly did the poor daughter do that sucks??? Nah the ones who voted esh suck!!

    Exotic Butters
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Miranda would look like the a** if she wore a white gown to your wedding, not your bride. Why would the ex humiliate her own daughter??

    Jan Dunn
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't wear white to someone else's wedding.

    Givemeabreak101
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell ex your daughter wants the dress back but don't let her wear it to the wedding.

    Susie Evans
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why should he tell his ex-wife the daughter, who wanted him to return the dress, that she wants it back?

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    whateves
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wonder if they can dye the dress

    karma rose
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really think that the nutty ex is trying to make a statement with that white dress for a 17 year old to wear at her father's wedding to a *younger* woman...it's gross and she needs to let the ex go. I see this as her saying "Oh, so you like them young? How about your daughter? She's only ten years younger than your wife."

    Gwyn
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, keep the dress, don't say anything but don't have the daughter wear it, keep it for prom or something. Let the ex think she won until the wedding photos come back.

    Susan Mudgett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does ex have the power to keep Miranda away? If not, tell Miranda she is welocme, you want her their but it's her choice. Do not have ANY family member help her shop as this could be seen as forcing a preference.Let Miaranda take any trusted non-relative with er. YOU have the right of refusal but other wise it's totally Miranda's choice.

    §~ Rainbow Panda ~§
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder how the Ex wife would have reacted if they let the daughter wear the dress and then the bride wear a different colour dress

    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There were 26 years between my aunt and uncle. They were married almost 40 years. Let it be

    EJN
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is easy to see that the ex-wife is trying to start trouble here and using her daughter to do it. The comments about the age difference between to-be husband and wife are unrelated to the problem and demonstrate that there are still many women out there that automatically get their hackles up when an older man falls for a younger woman. If the ex-wife is pissed about being replaced by a younger woman (we don't know anything about when this relationship started) then it is her problem. Trying to screw up her ex-husband's wedding is just plain nasty and give some insight as to why he split from her to begin with!

    HBrown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shes the ex. Quit talking to her. Quit listening to her. Your wedding and your fiance's wedding. Do what you guys want to do. Your ex can push off. Unless you're the bride, only weirdos wear a wedding dress to a wedding. Your daughter didn't want to. Your ex is an oddball.

    Leslie Agostino
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel sorry for your daughter. Nta. Hopefully you only have to deal with ex 1 more year

    Leslie Agostino
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would keep a record of everything your ex does. Especially video/audio. Judges don't like games

    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, is this even real? Put this in front of a family court judge and mom could lose visitation over this blatant insanity, especially since she she got her family member involved. Nutbars.

    Oliver
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, ex is TA, we are gonna ignore the age difference, I’ve seen worse.

    Amy Burke
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would've dyed it another colour xx

    P Webb
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ex is OBVIOUSLY the AH for getting her daughter a white wedding gown to wear to her father's wedding. However he KNEW that sending that dress back would cause drama and yet he did it anyway! Now his daughter suffers because she's not allowed to go to her own father's wedding! WHY couldn't he have just quietly bought another dress for her, not sent the other dress back, and not said sh*t to his ex about it; and enjoyed his wedding day, without the extra drama? Really he should just get back together with his ex. They both clearly thrive on the drama and the back and forth, tit-for-tat relationship they share. But wait until the daughter is out on her own, because she doesn't need more of that toxic sh*t in her life!

    Susie Evans
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are you "fo" real? The daughter, at 17, can attend the wedding if she so chooses. Children from broken homes, once they turn 14, can choose with which parent they wish to live. The OP suggested that the daughter lives with him, since the ex-wife sent the dress rather than giving it to her in person.

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    Vladimíra Matejová
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They could have kept that dress for other occasion and bought a new dress for the wedding

    Ingrid Rose
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA coming from a women in your situation. I'm the second wife. The minute you got engaged things changed, your not pining away for her anymore. She is going to constantly ruffle your feathers. The point is she is looking for your reaction. Just smile and ignore her. I would have purchased a separate dress for your daughter to wear and sent the white one back after the wedding, or not at all. Your ex is going to continue to antagonize you no matter what. The one thing you have on your side is your daughter is 17. This jealousy and insecurity is going to continue. The best case is don't react. This advice is coming from me who is the second wife with my husband's first wife is a wack.

    Kym Hall
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She is 17 and I would have had a talk with the daughter first to make sure she did not like the dress wanted to wear something else. Along with explaining the wedding ediquite if not wearing white to a wedding but the bride unless bride and groom are not going more traditional and ask there family and friends to come in certain colors. If this 17 year old doesn't know this. Then both discuss how to handle. Here were some ways 1. Keep the dress temporially. Then Just buy go out together and get new dress for the daughter to wear to the wedding that the daughter would prefer as the daughter said and discussed she did not want to wear it and of unappropiateness of wearing it. Of course explaining it not the daughters fault it just what needs to be done in a unfortunate situation. Then after wedding both have a discussion with the mom. Making ones points and let mom return the dress if still returnable or daughter can use for another occasion. If not let the mom take the loss.

    Susie Evans
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was pretty obvious to me that the daughter didn't like the dress and requested that her father return it.

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    Mary Pigott
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's probably mad because OP is marrying someone borderline young enough to be his older daughter..

    Butterfly_Cavewoman
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F*****g did the mum want her daughter to feel stupid and be getting talked about at her dads wedding. People will be talking about it for years. Miranda should pick a dress out that she's going to feel comfortable in and that is actually her style. The mum needs to stop with this petty b******t and get over the fact that her ex is getting married.

    Kimberly Ledig
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why didn't anyone give the daughter money and let her buy her own d*MN dress?!?!

    Angela Andrews
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank God he divorced her hey ! At least he only has to deal with this sh/! occasionally and not the 24/7 of being married to her.

    Mario Strada
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I avoid weddings with a passion. If I could have not attended my own I'd have been fine with it, yet even I know you don't wear white at someone else's wedding. Not so much because of the bride, there may be brides out there that don't care, I wouldn't know. However, this being a very established custom, I'd think the 17yo herself would be miserable looking like a wedding impostor. Who does that to their daughter?

    LH25
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, the ex is having big issues here. Dad would do well to not say too much about her to the daughter. She's old enough to form her own opinions. Ex ITA for sending it. All it would have done was embarrass her own daughter, to make some sort of sick point.

    Spencer Grady
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All these Reddit comment hobgoblins fidgeting with their charity/cause wristbands, with thinly veiled calling him a p@3d0 because he was 40 and she was 24. Then the chardonnay harpies clutching at their seashell/beaded necklaces start inventing the lies the OP left out because he's a Man. Untrustworthy he callously omitted the most salient points that he clearly cheated on his ex and is afraid that if his daughter wears a gown, his wrong-love of her will be revealed. Bet half of them think he'll approach his new and easily manipulated jailbait wife and newly of age daughter for a threesome, sometime in the future. The anti commenters in this thread are sick. Broken people will die alone or kill their family with their "love".

    Ash Conner
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You should have kept the dress. She could wear it for prom or something. Returning it so your ex wife could see was starting drama. You know she would see it. You know she was going to go off. If you explained to your kid about the whole wearing whit thing to a wedding and said keep it for a different occasion that would have been better. You are an AH for stirring the drama pot though. Now you kid is stuck in the middle. You know your kid would feel weird wearing the dress anyway. Personal development is the way to go here. Next time she punches. Cool off first before making decisions. Angry people do not make the best decisions.

    LadyB
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Stuff that dress in the bathtub with loads of fabric dye in a color that coordinates with the color theme of the wedding. Problem solved! Daughter wears the dress cray-cray ex bought and daughter is not weirdly awkward at the wedding. Ex will freak but apparently that's already a "thing". At least it's obvious why _that_ relationship crashed & burned already.

    Kitty 🥀
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I haven’t even read the post yet— I just gotta say that wedding dress at the top is the most stunning dress I’ve ever seen.

    Biliegh they/them
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I skipped straight to comments as soon as I saw the age gap. The man cheated on his wife, divorced her, and married a child. Of course she sent a white dress for her daughter. What do you expect 😂

    Marina Rocha
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel that the mom has overstepped her boundaries but OP sounds like he is completely whipped and fiancée comes in first, second and third places. I feel for the daughter

    crowspectre (he/they)
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah that age gap was the only thing I could think about through that. Very not okay imo

    Oliver
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve seen worse, but it is a pretty big age gap. Borderline I would say.

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    Rocco MZ
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    3 years ago

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    This man knew he wasn't the a*****e, he just wanted everyone to tell him that.

    Audrey Malone
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    3 years ago

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    I'm trying to see his ex as the crazy woman he's obviously painting her as, but I'd be creeped out if my ex husband was marrying a girl closer to his daughter's than his own age too.

    Venice
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    3 years ago

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    I think there's way more to this story. Giving a white ball gown to wear to the wedding was a solid no. Your ex is scoring zero points with me with that.. You see a crazy ex who just wants to make trouble, I see a woman lashing out in pain but going about it in a very wrong way. Your young fiance is another question for me but, your life Your choice. The optics of it just does not look good. Not sure if this was an affair partner or not but given the level of hurt your ex is displaying speak volumes. I also get the sense that there's some attempts from you to sort of " "erase" her mum. She can love both women, there's space for it. Based on your ex Sis in law's reaction, doesn't look like her family liked you much. Also remember, she may be your daughter, but she's also a female who can emphasize with her mum, love her at the same and forgive her. My question to you is where did YOU mess up in this saga.Your daughter is quiet because you put her in a horrible position. YTA.

    Clare E
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mother's behaviour is total toxic and if you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

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    Libstak
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He could have avoided any drama by just taking his daughter shopping and letting her choose what she wants to wear. The white dress could stay in its box or potentially be used for a debutante ball or homecoming formal depending on where they live. The ex wife doesn't need to know any more about it until post wedding photos show up, she can scream all she likes then and get exactly nowhere fast.

    MoMcB
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, just say thanks, smile, and go and buy his daughter a dress she wants.

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    KMill
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn’t send it back, that just stirs the pot. I’d get some fabric dye and let my daughter have fun with it!

    Mim“the Swede”Sorensson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, if sent back, maybe the ex could at least get the money back. Her saying she couldn’t doesn’t mean much. Considering it wasn’t the daughters style even it had been another colour, I mean, it doesn’t sound as if she would have worn it in any case.

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    Marno C.
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The thing about showing up to a wedding in inappropriate clothes is that some deluded people think, "Haha! I am sticking it to the bride! She's going to feel sooooo upset!" But what also happens is that everyone side-eyes, gossips about, and generally sneers at the person inappropriately attired. If that person comes out of their revenge fog long enough to notice, they are shocked (!) that no-one is inspired, Spartacus-style, by the 'bravery.' They are offended, surprised, and confused that people are disgusted. Now, here, the ex was trying to use her daughter as a proxy and would have invited all of that shame and disgust onto her poor daughter (who was, thankfully, saavy to her mom's attempted insult). Setting your kid up for that sort of public ridicule makes you a gross person and a bad mom.

    Mad Dragon
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He should have just bought his daughter a dress for the wedding. He could have waited until after the wedding to tell the mom that it just wasn’t her style and she chose her own dress.

    Spencer Grady
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Take her shopping, great daddy daughter day material.

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    Liam Lowenthal
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty annoying some of the comments on ops post has such an issue with age. Within certain limits, there's plenty of couples ten, twenty years apart. Mine were 16 years apart, had me, we're perfectly happy. As long as they're not like.. a child. Like a teenager. Then.. what. What's the problem. Also, these same people seem to not know wedding etiquette. You don't wear white to someone else's wedding, much less something akin to a full blown wedding dress. The hell are these people thinking? On top of it all, as much as everyone is saying "Oh poor daughter, oh poor Miranda", nobody seems to care that she formed her own opinion and agreed it should be sent back. She's 17, not 12. I'm pretty sure she's able to form her own thoughts at this point. Another thing, how is it so impossible for a father to know what his daughters style is? She's with him often enough I assume, a parent who actually pays attention to their child would see what she wears on her own?

    Susie Evans
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP's comments suggest that Miranda lives with him since his ex-wife sent her the dress rather than giving it to her in person.

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    Moezzzz
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad married a girl I went to high school with after my step mom died. I was 22. She was 24. She made the mistake of telling me on night that she was my step mom, and I remember losing my s**t and saying "no, my stepmom passed away, YOU'RE just the rebound wife!". Granted, I could've handled that better, but, yeah. They divorced a year later. She claimed my old house was haunted. Apparently all her clothes in the shared closet would get wet and mildewed. And she'd hear voices in the house when no one was home. Lots more stories like that, and yeah, I'd like to think my mom was scaring the s**t out of that gold digger. She thought he had a lot of money after mom had died (that's what I called her), but there was nothing; everything went to medical bills (cancer). Pretty sure she's run through 3 or 5 marriages by now.

    Id row
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd honestly document all of this and bring it to my attorney to sue for full custody. That woman is unfit to be a mother if she's ok weaponizing her daughter for her own petty jealousy.

    Jon Steensen
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everybody in western culture knows that at a wedding, white is reserved to the bride (unles you are being specifically told something else), and that only a$$holes would show up in a white dress. This is in no way an "oops, didn't consider that" but an obvious attempt of sabotage, by an ex that wanted to stir up some drama. She set this up such that in one way or another, she would win. Either she would cause a scene at the wedding, or she can play the victim card and drive a wedge between you and your daughter. When put in those lose-lose situations, the wise thing to do is always to look for the third option. What I think your daugther should have done was, to thank her mother for the lovely dress, have worn it to the wedding, and send her mother pictures of it. When the mother then wondered why it was blue on the pictures, your daughter could innoscently have said "I didn't want look like a bride, as this is not my day. But I liked it, so I fixed that little detail by dyeing it".

    Ruby
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At first I judged the age difference then I realised I've fancied a guy thats 26 years older than and I currently like someone 11 years older

    Liam Lowenthal
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, my parents were 16 years apart. Happily married until they died. As "weird" as it is, as these people seem to think, it's actually not. My husband is 14 years younger than me and we're running on our 7th anniversary this year. I think age gaps, within reason, aren't strange, I think western culture is just a little sheltered.

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    Nitka Tsar
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG the headline is so confusing! XD

    Kat Min
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so ridicolous. Sometimes I wonder if most AITA posts are just fabrications. You are senidng a white ball gown to your daughter to wear t the wedding of your ex-husband? Who whould do something like that and not realoize how batsh1t crazy this looks. Not to mention risking severyl damaging the relationship with your daughter by weaponizing her and making her look like a complete fool.

    Aya Pandy
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot are but I've seen this happen irl so not sure on this one it's not the usual troll suspects

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    Jon Steensen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    since when has minor chess pieces become swear words that need sensoring?

    Ash
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is BP censoring the word "p**n"? As in, from a game of chess? Or are the Reddit users misspelling it?

    Tyke
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They don't censor "Porn" though...

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    S Mi
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, OP, apologize to your daughter for her getting caught in the middle. It's not exactly OP's fault, but even at 17, she deserved to be reminded it's not her fault and things between mom.and dad are not her problem. Then take her to get a dress or outfit she actually wants to wear. Ignore ex a much as possible. If she does things like comment on social media pictures, respond with something like 'what a beautiful young woman our daughter is!' (Edit: typos)

    Tyke
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ex wife is clearly using her own daughter as a p@wn in her little game with her ex husband. That in itself is so utterly wrong - stitching her up, ignoring her feelings, putting her in a really awkward position. If I were "Miranda" I'd be moving in with Dad and would be bloody fuming with my Mother.

    Tyke
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    @BoredPanda website people, if you ever read these comments: PORN is one thing (and not a "dirty word)... P@WN is not remotely sexual, dirty or naughty. Buy a dictionary. It's hilarious you censor the one that is totally innocent and not the one that isn't!

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    Karen Bird
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the comments about the age gap are wrong. When I met my sons father, I was 22 and he was 41. I was an established adult and you can't help who you're attracted to!

    michele mbennett1010@att.net
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, it appears there's a good reason Miranda's mom is an ex. She's a controlling, entitled double boobied screaming a*****e. Dad needs to tell daughter she needs to tell her mom she doesn't like the dress and has no intention of wearing it..period. Dad and fiancee can take her shopping for an appropriate dress. Ex can go pound sand as she has no place in the wedding and needs to get over herself. Maybe Miranda might have considered saving the dress to wear at her own wedding or dying it to wear at Prom but mom's nutso reaction and questionable decisions made that impossible. Sorry kiddo but your mom's wrong on so many levels.

    Carrie Davis
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I completely disagree with the last 2 esh comments made. What exactly did the poor daughter do that sucks??? Nah the ones who voted esh suck!!

    Exotic Butters
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Miranda would look like the a** if she wore a white gown to your wedding, not your bride. Why would the ex humiliate her own daughter??

    Jan Dunn
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't wear white to someone else's wedding.

    Givemeabreak101
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell ex your daughter wants the dress back but don't let her wear it to the wedding.

    Susie Evans
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why should he tell his ex-wife the daughter, who wanted him to return the dress, that she wants it back?

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    whateves
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wonder if they can dye the dress

    karma rose
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really think that the nutty ex is trying to make a statement with that white dress for a 17 year old to wear at her father's wedding to a *younger* woman...it's gross and she needs to let the ex go. I see this as her saying "Oh, so you like them young? How about your daughter? She's only ten years younger than your wife."

    Gwyn
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, keep the dress, don't say anything but don't have the daughter wear it, keep it for prom or something. Let the ex think she won until the wedding photos come back.

    Susan Mudgett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does ex have the power to keep Miranda away? If not, tell Miranda she is welocme, you want her their but it's her choice. Do not have ANY family member help her shop as this could be seen as forcing a preference.Let Miaranda take any trusted non-relative with er. YOU have the right of refusal but other wise it's totally Miranda's choice.

    §~ Rainbow Panda ~§
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder how the Ex wife would have reacted if they let the daughter wear the dress and then the bride wear a different colour dress

    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There were 26 years between my aunt and uncle. They were married almost 40 years. Let it be

    EJN
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is easy to see that the ex-wife is trying to start trouble here and using her daughter to do it. The comments about the age difference between to-be husband and wife are unrelated to the problem and demonstrate that there are still many women out there that automatically get their hackles up when an older man falls for a younger woman. If the ex-wife is pissed about being replaced by a younger woman (we don't know anything about when this relationship started) then it is her problem. Trying to screw up her ex-husband's wedding is just plain nasty and give some insight as to why he split from her to begin with!

    HBrown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shes the ex. Quit talking to her. Quit listening to her. Your wedding and your fiance's wedding. Do what you guys want to do. Your ex can push off. Unless you're the bride, only weirdos wear a wedding dress to a wedding. Your daughter didn't want to. Your ex is an oddball.

    Leslie Agostino
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel sorry for your daughter. Nta. Hopefully you only have to deal with ex 1 more year

    Leslie Agostino
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would keep a record of everything your ex does. Especially video/audio. Judges don't like games

    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, is this even real? Put this in front of a family court judge and mom could lose visitation over this blatant insanity, especially since she she got her family member involved. Nutbars.

    Oliver
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, ex is TA, we are gonna ignore the age difference, I’ve seen worse.

    Amy Burke
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would've dyed it another colour xx

    P Webb
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ex is OBVIOUSLY the AH for getting her daughter a white wedding gown to wear to her father's wedding. However he KNEW that sending that dress back would cause drama and yet he did it anyway! Now his daughter suffers because she's not allowed to go to her own father's wedding! WHY couldn't he have just quietly bought another dress for her, not sent the other dress back, and not said sh*t to his ex about it; and enjoyed his wedding day, without the extra drama? Really he should just get back together with his ex. They both clearly thrive on the drama and the back and forth, tit-for-tat relationship they share. But wait until the daughter is out on her own, because she doesn't need more of that toxic sh*t in her life!

    Susie Evans
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are you "fo" real? The daughter, at 17, can attend the wedding if she so chooses. Children from broken homes, once they turn 14, can choose with which parent they wish to live. The OP suggested that the daughter lives with him, since the ex-wife sent the dress rather than giving it to her in person.

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    Vladimíra Matejová
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They could have kept that dress for other occasion and bought a new dress for the wedding

    Ingrid Rose
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA coming from a women in your situation. I'm the second wife. The minute you got engaged things changed, your not pining away for her anymore. She is going to constantly ruffle your feathers. The point is she is looking for your reaction. Just smile and ignore her. I would have purchased a separate dress for your daughter to wear and sent the white one back after the wedding, or not at all. Your ex is going to continue to antagonize you no matter what. The one thing you have on your side is your daughter is 17. This jealousy and insecurity is going to continue. The best case is don't react. This advice is coming from me who is the second wife with my husband's first wife is a wack.

    Kym Hall
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She is 17 and I would have had a talk with the daughter first to make sure she did not like the dress wanted to wear something else. Along with explaining the wedding ediquite if not wearing white to a wedding but the bride unless bride and groom are not going more traditional and ask there family and friends to come in certain colors. If this 17 year old doesn't know this. Then both discuss how to handle. Here were some ways 1. Keep the dress temporially. Then Just buy go out together and get new dress for the daughter to wear to the wedding that the daughter would prefer as the daughter said and discussed she did not want to wear it and of unappropiateness of wearing it. Of course explaining it not the daughters fault it just what needs to be done in a unfortunate situation. Then after wedding both have a discussion with the mom. Making ones points and let mom return the dress if still returnable or daughter can use for another occasion. If not let the mom take the loss.

    Susie Evans
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was pretty obvious to me that the daughter didn't like the dress and requested that her father return it.

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    Mary Pigott
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's probably mad because OP is marrying someone borderline young enough to be his older daughter..

    Butterfly_Cavewoman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F*****g did the mum want her daughter to feel stupid and be getting talked about at her dads wedding. People will be talking about it for years. Miranda should pick a dress out that she's going to feel comfortable in and that is actually her style. The mum needs to stop with this petty b******t and get over the fact that her ex is getting married.

    Kimberly Ledig
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why didn't anyone give the daughter money and let her buy her own d*MN dress?!?!

    Angela Andrews
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank God he divorced her hey ! At least he only has to deal with this sh/! occasionally and not the 24/7 of being married to her.

    Mario Strada
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I avoid weddings with a passion. If I could have not attended my own I'd have been fine with it, yet even I know you don't wear white at someone else's wedding. Not so much because of the bride, there may be brides out there that don't care, I wouldn't know. However, this being a very established custom, I'd think the 17yo herself would be miserable looking like a wedding impostor. Who does that to their daughter?

    LH25
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, the ex is having big issues here. Dad would do well to not say too much about her to the daughter. She's old enough to form her own opinions. Ex ITA for sending it. All it would have done was embarrass her own daughter, to make some sort of sick point.

    Spencer Grady
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All these Reddit comment hobgoblins fidgeting with their charity/cause wristbands, with thinly veiled calling him a p@3d0 because he was 40 and she was 24. Then the chardonnay harpies clutching at their seashell/beaded necklaces start inventing the lies the OP left out because he's a Man. Untrustworthy he callously omitted the most salient points that he clearly cheated on his ex and is afraid that if his daughter wears a gown, his wrong-love of her will be revealed. Bet half of them think he'll approach his new and easily manipulated jailbait wife and newly of age daughter for a threesome, sometime in the future. The anti commenters in this thread are sick. Broken people will die alone or kill their family with their "love".

    Ash Conner
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You should have kept the dress. She could wear it for prom or something. Returning it so your ex wife could see was starting drama. You know she would see it. You know she was going to go off. If you explained to your kid about the whole wearing whit thing to a wedding and said keep it for a different occasion that would have been better. You are an AH for stirring the drama pot though. Now you kid is stuck in the middle. You know your kid would feel weird wearing the dress anyway. Personal development is the way to go here. Next time she punches. Cool off first before making decisions. Angry people do not make the best decisions.

    LadyB
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Stuff that dress in the bathtub with loads of fabric dye in a color that coordinates with the color theme of the wedding. Problem solved! Daughter wears the dress cray-cray ex bought and daughter is not weirdly awkward at the wedding. Ex will freak but apparently that's already a "thing". At least it's obvious why _that_ relationship crashed & burned already.

    Kitty 🥀
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I haven’t even read the post yet— I just gotta say that wedding dress at the top is the most stunning dress I’ve ever seen.

    Biliegh they/them
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I skipped straight to comments as soon as I saw the age gap. The man cheated on his wife, divorced her, and married a child. Of course she sent a white dress for her daughter. What do you expect 😂

    Marina Rocha
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel that the mom has overstepped her boundaries but OP sounds like he is completely whipped and fiancée comes in first, second and third places. I feel for the daughter

    crowspectre (he/they)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah that age gap was the only thing I could think about through that. Very not okay imo

    Oliver
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve seen worse, but it is a pretty big age gap. Borderline I would say.

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    Rocco MZ
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    3 years ago

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    This man knew he wasn't the a*****e, he just wanted everyone to tell him that.

    Audrey Malone
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    3 years ago

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    I'm trying to see his ex as the crazy woman he's obviously painting her as, but I'd be creeped out if my ex husband was marrying a girl closer to his daughter's than his own age too.

    Venice
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    I think there's way more to this story. Giving a white ball gown to wear to the wedding was a solid no. Your ex is scoring zero points with me with that.. You see a crazy ex who just wants to make trouble, I see a woman lashing out in pain but going about it in a very wrong way. Your young fiance is another question for me but, your life Your choice. The optics of it just does not look good. Not sure if this was an affair partner or not but given the level of hurt your ex is displaying speak volumes. I also get the sense that there's some attempts from you to sort of " "erase" her mum. She can love both women, there's space for it. Based on your ex Sis in law's reaction, doesn't look like her family liked you much. Also remember, she may be your daughter, but she's also a female who can emphasize with her mum, love her at the same and forgive her. My question to you is where did YOU mess up in this saga.Your daughter is quiet because you put her in a horrible position. YTA.

    Clare E
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mother's behaviour is total toxic and if you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

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