“Only For New Hires? Fine”: Manager Decides To Hire People At A Higher Rate Than Long-Standing Employees Earn, Gets A Dose Of Malicious Compliance
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Don’t you just love working for a company for multiple years, dedicating a good chunk of your day (or life), putting in the effort to be the best you can be, only to find out that new hires will be earning more than you? Yeah, it apparently happens a lot more than my brain can comprehend.
Thankfully, we are blessed with stories of people finding creative, ingenious, and simultaneously hilarious ways to break the unjust system and stick it to the man (or woman, whichever). One such story comes from a person, nicknamed tpb772000, who shared their story on the Reddit group r/MaliciousCompliance. They were also very kind to answer some of our questions!
Here at Bored Panda, we love a happy ending! So, after you’re done with this little story, here is another one that might tickle your fancy—oh, and another one here! Enjoy and leave your thoughts and opinions on everything in the comments below! Now let’s get into it!
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No long-standing employee wants to find themselves in the middle of a pay compression, where less skilled or experienced employees earn the same or more
Image credits: Aleksandar Pasaric (not the actual photo)
Having a job is one of those norms of life that very few get to run away from. You want to be able to afford heating? You work. You want to be able to afford a freshly made jam-filled donut? You work. You want to conquer the world with an army of cats? You work.
However, one wants to feel as though they’re appreciated for the work they do on a daily basis. And what’s the best way to do so? Get a bonus, get a raise, get some form of monetary reward—you get the gist. Yet, some managers decide that the best way to say ‘thank you’ is to give you more work in the form of training up newbies, whilst denying you a raise.
This is the situation one Redditor, with the nickname tpb772000, was faced with. Spoiler alert: the story has a happy ending. But the way he got there is definitely one for the employment workbooks.
Whelp, this Redditor, with the username tpb772000, was put in that exact position. A satisfying case of malicious compliance followed. Here is the story:
Inage credits: tpb772000
Pay compression is often triggered by inflation and labor shortages, yet it may diminish workplace morale and lead to high rates of turnover
Image credits: Clay Banks (not the actual photo)
Ingenious, yet most effective. If new hires are getting that sweet pay, why not become a new hire yourself, even though you’re still technically an old hire… Look, I don’t know what that’s called or classed as; the fact is, it’s a clear and natural progression of unmotivated and underappreciated workers, regardless of your position or career path.
tpb772000 told Bored Panda that his parents’ support is what pushed him towards such a daring act of rebellion. “They had my back and said, ‘you determine how you let other people treat you,'” he said.
The situation this Redditor was put into is called a pay compression, which occurs when there’s little difference in pay between employees, regardless of differences in their knowledge, skills, experience, or abilities. He believes that it’s a tactic employers use to control and take advantage of their workers.
“If you can keep the older employees for less money, you know you can push them around and no longer need to worry about them,” he explained. “Very few people can afford to do what I did and [employers] know that. They save a lot of money but also know who is desperate. For a job such as a cashier, the cheaper you can pay the better for the ‘company.’ However, this leads to high turnover (which it did) and less productivity.”
Surprisingly, it happens way more often than you’d think. Capterra’s 2022 New Hire Premium Survey discussed this with 654 hiring managers and 635 staff-level workers in the U.S. Nearly two out of three hiring managers (65%) said that their organization was offering new employees higher starting salaries than usual. Furthermore, said salaries were raised by 9 percent on average, but close to one in six (16%) had raised wages by as much as 15 percent or more.
The most commonly noted reason for this? To combat inflation and labor shortages. According to Indeed, wage compression can occur when a company has a history of infrequent raises. Also, if there are changes in leadership, structure, or market, it may influence the company to attempt to draw in new talent with higher wages or higher total compensation packages.
Stacey Carroll, managing director of compensation and benefits for Hawaiian Airlines in Honolulu, believes that a new employee making more than their manager isn’t necessarily a problem. “The boss may earn less because the market value for a manager could be lower than it is for someone with a highly specialized skill set,” she said.
As argued by SHRM, single instances of pay compression may not justify extensive salary adjustments. For new hires with much-needed skills but less work experience, it may be appropriate to start them higher in the position’s pay range. That also goes for unique circumstances, when a worker doesn’t fit into existing job categories or if they’re coming in to help short-term.
Still, it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, if you ask me. It’s not as if employees are unable to check the job adverts that their company has, allowing them to immediately notice the stark differences in remuneration. This can quickly garner resentment among the long-term but lower-paid employees, leading to weaker morale and increased turnover.
You know what happens then? The company needs to look for even more new people, especially those with significant skills, to potentially take over from the experienced workers who decided to leave. You know what that’ll cost? Far more time and money than it would have been if they’d just increased the salaries.
If the company is consistently paying new talent more than existing employees, it may be a good idea to stop and reevaluate some things, such as the market data and the organization’s talent requirements. If it’s not possible to increase the pay for all employees, then mayhaps providing an array of different benefits is in order, such as bonuses, offering employer stock, or added paid vacation days.
Should you go ahead and do what tpb772000 did? It may not be possible, considering your situation in life. But you may as well try to get that pay rise by tracking your responsibilities and impact on the company and presenting them to your boss. Know what you want—it’s very important. And if that fails, be open to new opportunities elsewhere.
“If you are financially can do this, 100% do it,” the Redditor said. “In the long run it will help you a lot more than just more pay. It will show the employer that you will not be taken advantage of and that they need you just as much as you need them. For those able, take advantage of opportunities like this. This one experience changed how I let all employers treat me and how I view myself.”
We’re glad to see that things worked out well for tpb772000 and can only hope that they will never be put into a similar situation again.
Let us know your thoughts in the comments below and share your own tales of pay compression, as these folks on Reddit have. Enjoy your day and I’ll see you in the next one!
Thankfully, all ended very well for the Redditor. Many people supported him and shared their stories as well. Make sure to share your thoughts in the comments!
Completely unfair. It's like all those freebies and extras "New" customers can get when they sign up for whatever, phone, TV, credit cards... If I've been a customer for years, why not appreciate me?
You have to tell them that if they don't, they lose your business. Same scenario as the workers. Businesses need to be smacked in their bank accounts or they don't move in the right direction.
Load More Replies...Same deal with utilities and services. Every year I change the energy, mobile and internet etc. providers because new customers get better deals and discounts that are either not offered to existing customers or you have to physically find out and a0ply for them yourself...
We do this with our cable/internet. I start looking into who has the best intro rate in our area a few months before our rates will jump and time it to switch as soon the intro rate ends. Sometimes it's just one year sometimes it's two. We've rotated through everything available in our area several times. It can be a royal pain to reset the DVR to record our favorite shows etc. But the money we save makes it worth it
Load More Replies...This is like when the cable company offers a really low internet rate and you call to get that rate and they say it's for new customers only. So your loyal ones get screwed? Not a great way to do business.
Then you tell them you want to speak to their supervisor. If they give you the same BS, tell them you quit their service. Oh, and make sure you get their names (plus the date & time of the call) so you can send your complaint up the tree to the UPPER management. Those recorded calls for 'training purposes' are just as valuable for you. I tend to jot notes on attitude, times I'm put on hold and for how long, etc.
Load More Replies...College student hired at an art shop in the mall as a framer. I was interviewed at the mall and assumed I was working there. Turns out the owner was single and the frame shop was at his house in his garage. No air no heat. The door was never opened. Complete framing shop set up. No bathroom except in his house and I was told he really didn't like us to use it unless it was an emergency. No breaks not even for lunch. It was winter and so cold I could not feel my butt. There was a girl there teaching me what to do. I was going WTH??? Then I found out that he was going to fire the girl after she trained me. It was his girlfriend. He was dumping her and I was replacing her as a framer. Another WTH??? He told me this when I went in to use the bathroom and I started asking a lot of questions (2nd day on the job). Found out salary 1/2 normal framers pay. I walked into the garage, told the girl everything then left. Not worth my time. No negotiations necessary.
Why is it always "pay compression" and never "profit compression? And why is stiffing your workers called "compression" in the first place?
Because they're putting the squeeze on their employees and customers.
Load More Replies...I was hired at Burger King after losing my accounting job to covid related shut-down (having worked for small company for 3 years i was the most recent hire, unfortunately downsized). After my 30-day review to get a raise and promotion i found out that several employees who had been there 3-5 years were making 1-2$ an hour less than i was hired on at! I found it unacceptable and championed raises for the rest of day crew. Fast forward 1.5 years, I got a job opportunity more in my field. I was at 13$ an hour as shift leader which in rural Wisconsin is plenty to live off, my rent is 475$ and we have low cost of living. They offered me 3$ an hour raise to stay. My response was if I'm worth that now, why wasn't i worth it a month ago when i got 1$ raise. Was also told not to discuss my offered raise. I left a month ago and just received random text yesterday offering 17$ lol.
My Dad was a research scientist. He never asked for a raise as he felt that the company and his bosses knew his worth and paid him a fair salary. When they offered early retirement to people (early1980’s) they more than doubled his salary to try to retain him. Pissed him off and he immediately retired. He said, If he was worth that much then why hadn’t they been paying him that?
Load More Replies...God I'm so tired of this "malicious compliance" term. It doesn't even apply here. He didn't comply, he quit and worked a loophole in the system.
Winnebago industries has done the same thing. New hires got a 20 percent increase us 20 year people got a 3 percent raise. P.s. don't buy a Winnebago.
I was production manager for a small industrial firm. Since we did some of the machining in-house We had a couple of guys who could do it. One morning the whole crew comes into my office complaining about a new hire, which is strange because I did the interviewing and hiring. They're hot because on the TV news the night before they saw the owner of the company doing a "public service" by hiring one of the residence of a local shelter for more than the seasoned techs were getting paid. Hadn't said a word to me about it. Anyway the guy looked like a poster boy for cleaning up the city. Came in late the second day and came in late late and plastered on the third. There was, of course, no fourth day.
He got a kickback from the government for hiring the needy. Most of the time it works. This time loser boss hired an even bigger loser.
Load More Replies...Completely unfair. It's like all those freebies and extras "New" customers can get when they sign up for whatever, phone, TV, credit cards... If I've been a customer for years, why not appreciate me?
You have to tell them that if they don't, they lose your business. Same scenario as the workers. Businesses need to be smacked in their bank accounts or they don't move in the right direction.
Load More Replies...Same deal with utilities and services. Every year I change the energy, mobile and internet etc. providers because new customers get better deals and discounts that are either not offered to existing customers or you have to physically find out and a0ply for them yourself...
We do this with our cable/internet. I start looking into who has the best intro rate in our area a few months before our rates will jump and time it to switch as soon the intro rate ends. Sometimes it's just one year sometimes it's two. We've rotated through everything available in our area several times. It can be a royal pain to reset the DVR to record our favorite shows etc. But the money we save makes it worth it
Load More Replies...This is like when the cable company offers a really low internet rate and you call to get that rate and they say it's for new customers only. So your loyal ones get screwed? Not a great way to do business.
Then you tell them you want to speak to their supervisor. If they give you the same BS, tell them you quit their service. Oh, and make sure you get their names (plus the date & time of the call) so you can send your complaint up the tree to the UPPER management. Those recorded calls for 'training purposes' are just as valuable for you. I tend to jot notes on attitude, times I'm put on hold and for how long, etc.
Load More Replies...College student hired at an art shop in the mall as a framer. I was interviewed at the mall and assumed I was working there. Turns out the owner was single and the frame shop was at his house in his garage. No air no heat. The door was never opened. Complete framing shop set up. No bathroom except in his house and I was told he really didn't like us to use it unless it was an emergency. No breaks not even for lunch. It was winter and so cold I could not feel my butt. There was a girl there teaching me what to do. I was going WTH??? Then I found out that he was going to fire the girl after she trained me. It was his girlfriend. He was dumping her and I was replacing her as a framer. Another WTH??? He told me this when I went in to use the bathroom and I started asking a lot of questions (2nd day on the job). Found out salary 1/2 normal framers pay. I walked into the garage, told the girl everything then left. Not worth my time. No negotiations necessary.
Why is it always "pay compression" and never "profit compression? And why is stiffing your workers called "compression" in the first place?
Because they're putting the squeeze on their employees and customers.
Load More Replies...I was hired at Burger King after losing my accounting job to covid related shut-down (having worked for small company for 3 years i was the most recent hire, unfortunately downsized). After my 30-day review to get a raise and promotion i found out that several employees who had been there 3-5 years were making 1-2$ an hour less than i was hired on at! I found it unacceptable and championed raises for the rest of day crew. Fast forward 1.5 years, I got a job opportunity more in my field. I was at 13$ an hour as shift leader which in rural Wisconsin is plenty to live off, my rent is 475$ and we have low cost of living. They offered me 3$ an hour raise to stay. My response was if I'm worth that now, why wasn't i worth it a month ago when i got 1$ raise. Was also told not to discuss my offered raise. I left a month ago and just received random text yesterday offering 17$ lol.
My Dad was a research scientist. He never asked for a raise as he felt that the company and his bosses knew his worth and paid him a fair salary. When they offered early retirement to people (early1980’s) they more than doubled his salary to try to retain him. Pissed him off and he immediately retired. He said, If he was worth that much then why hadn’t they been paying him that?
Load More Replies...God I'm so tired of this "malicious compliance" term. It doesn't even apply here. He didn't comply, he quit and worked a loophole in the system.
Winnebago industries has done the same thing. New hires got a 20 percent increase us 20 year people got a 3 percent raise. P.s. don't buy a Winnebago.
I was production manager for a small industrial firm. Since we did some of the machining in-house We had a couple of guys who could do it. One morning the whole crew comes into my office complaining about a new hire, which is strange because I did the interviewing and hiring. They're hot because on the TV news the night before they saw the owner of the company doing a "public service" by hiring one of the residence of a local shelter for more than the seasoned techs were getting paid. Hadn't said a word to me about it. Anyway the guy looked like a poster boy for cleaning up the city. Came in late the second day and came in late late and plastered on the third. There was, of course, no fourth day.
He got a kickback from the government for hiring the needy. Most of the time it works. This time loser boss hired an even bigger loser.
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