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New Neighbors Try To Control The Landscape, Get A Forest Of Karma Instead
Interview With Expert
It can be beneficial to start on the right foot with the neighbors when moving into a new place. The first impression is essential, and if it happens to be bad, it sets a negative tone for future relationships and interactions, which often makes living in your own home quite troublesome.
This couple’s new neighbors, unfortunately, brought nothing but chaos with them the minute they moved in. But what struck their last nerve was the residents’ demands to cut their trees, which they ignored to get back at them for all the inconvenience they’ve caused thus far.
Scroll down to find the full story and a conversation with ISA-certified arborist and owner of Arborist Halifax, Tim Spence, and ISA-certified arborist and owner of The Tree Nerds, Dennis Baum, who kindly agreed to talk with us all about trees and neighbors.
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Unfortunately, these new dwellers brought nothing but chaos the moment they moved in, ruining any chance at friendship with their neighbors
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Twice as many people say they have a closer relationship with trees than with their neighbors
University of Ferby research revealed that twice as many people (16%) say they have a closer relationship with trees than with their neighbors (7%). Perhaps that’s why disputes between neighbors who want to cut down trees on property lines and those who want to save them are quite common, as, according to the study, many adults appreciate trees and have a strong connection to nature.
To learn more about greenery on property lines and what neighbors can do about them, Bored Panda reached out to ISA-certified arborist and owner of Arborist Halifax, Tim Spence, and ISA-certified arborist and owner of The Tree Nerds, Dennis Baum.
It turns out, in most cases, neighbors can’t demand that fellow neighbors cut down their trees just because it’s blocking their view, as it happened in this story. “The right to a view is typically not protected by law unless a specific easement or agreement exists between the neighbors. Without such an agreement, a tree owner is not legally obligated to cut down a tree simply because it blocks a view,” says Spence.
Baum notes that “individual states, cities, historic districts, and even HOAs (Home Owner Associations) have their own rules about trees. It’s possible that your property value is being severely impacted by your neighbor’s trees blocking your view, but demanding that they cut down trees is obviously a terrible idea. If you approach your neighbor in a friendly manner and offer to pay for the trimming or removal, things will probably go a lot smoother.”
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“Branches over your property are technically your branches, even if the trunk is somewhere else”
In case tree branches are overhanging property lines, experts say that neighbors are usually allowed to trim what is in their yard, even if they don’t own it. This can, of course, vary from case to case.
“Laws vary between countries and even between local jurisdictions, so it’s crucial to check local regulations. In Canada (where I’m based), most provinces, except Quebec, follow the “self-help” rule. This allows property owners to trim overhanging branches up to their property line, provided the trimming does not aim to harm or kill the tree,” says Spence. “In Quebec, however, permission from the tree owner is required before any trimming, to avoid potential legal liability for damages. Always proceed cautiously and consult a local arborist, municipality, or legal expert if you’re unsure about the rules in your area.”
“Even if the tree trunk is clearly on your neighbor’s property, in most areas you can trim branches that reach over the property line,” agrees Baum. “Your property line extends straight up and straight down. So branches over your property are technically your branches, even if the trunk is somewhere else. Always make sure to follow local ordinances, many trees are protected. A local arborist will know what you can do,” he says.
Meanwhile, the owner doesn’t have much responsibility for something that is outside of their property, experts say. “In many cases, tree owners are not obligated to take action unless the overhanging branches pose a clear risk, such as the potential to cause property damage or injury. If the neighbor notifies the tree owner of such risks and provides a professional arborist’s report documenting the hazard, the tree owner may bear some liability if they fail to address the issue and damage occurs due to negligence,” Spence explains.
He concludes by saying, “In general, it’s best to maintain open communication with your neighbor to find an amicable solution. Consulting a qualified arborist and understanding your local regulations is key to resolving disputes effectively and avoiding legal complications.”
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Damned_Cat 12 months ago
We had some bottle-brush shrubs between our house and the neighbor's place that we normally trimmed waist high until our new neighbor started coming out at 5 a.m. to fire up his diesel pickup truck and then leave it running for 30 minutes while he went back inside for breakfast. Our bedroom window was right next to his driveway, so we got the brunt of the fumes and noise every morning. We tried talking to him about it but he basically told us to kick rocks. So, we started growing the shrubs extra tall to help diffuse the smell and sound. One night, someone broke into the neighbor's truck. He started asking us to trim the bushes because they provided cover for burglars. Of course, we told him to kick rocks. Mysteriously, these 50-year-old bushes rapidly started dying off. We could never prove that it was the neighbor that did it, but there was no other reason that they would die so fast like that. It sucks when neighbors can't get along.
Nikole 12 months ago
That’s terrible! I’d ask what is wrong with some people, but *gestures to everything*
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Traveling Lady Railfan 12 months ago
Up above I noticed a comment from Skatjie that says that their very first conversation with their brand new neighbor was something like this, before they'd spoken to anything else, they asked if they cut down their trees. I thought oh my gosh, that's wild... Cuz I had the exact same experience with my brand new neighbors. They didn't even tell me their names yet when they came to the door and said can I cut down my trees?
Jackie Lulu 12 months ago
We had a next door neighbor who had several mastiff type dogs who she let run free. One of them, a Cane Corso looking dog, would go to our other neighbor's yard and steal toys. I would look out the window and see "Ava" trotting home with a plushie in her mouth. That neighbor ran a day care at home, and was justifiably freaked out. I spoke to the owner and she was very apologetic, and had a invisible fence installed. Then she left the dogs to figure it out on their own. Luckily, Ava was a sweet dog who would never hurt anyone, but this story might have had a different ending.
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sweetrottenpeaches 12 months ago (edited)
People who let their stupid dogs bark all day and night should get arrested. For real. I hate those AHs. I have a neighbour like that and yes, it can ruin quality of my living. I can't wait to move but unfortunately people like that AH are everywhere.
Traveling Lady Railfan 12 months ago
I can understand the frustration, but it's not the dog's fault. It's the owners. The dogs are barking all the time because they're probably either tied up or never let out of the yard, they're not socialized with. These are people who want a dog for protection or just because they want a dog but they don't want to take care of the dog. A happy dog doesn't bark all day. A well-socialized, tired dog from exercise, is content with the world, 99% of the time. When I hear a dog barking incessantly, I know that the owners are not giving it the stimulation and attention that it needs. I hate the people for doing this to the animal. I don't hate the dog for barking.
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Damned_Cat 12 months ago
We had some bottle-brush shrubs between our house and the neighbor's place that we normally trimmed waist high until our new neighbor started coming out at 5 a.m. to fire up his diesel pickup truck and then leave it running for 30 minutes while he went back inside for breakfast. Our bedroom window was right next to his driveway, so we got the brunt of the fumes and noise every morning. We tried talking to him about it but he basically told us to kick rocks. So, we started growing the shrubs extra tall to help diffuse the smell and sound. One night, someone broke into the neighbor's truck. He started asking us to trim the bushes because they provided cover for burglars. Of course, we told him to kick rocks. Mysteriously, these 50-year-old bushes rapidly started dying off. We could never prove that it was the neighbor that did it, but there was no other reason that they would die so fast like that. It sucks when neighbors can't get along.
Nikole 12 months ago
That’s terrible! I’d ask what is wrong with some people, but *gestures to everything*
Load More Replies... Traveling Lady Railfan 12 months ago
Up above I noticed a comment from Skatjie that says that their very first conversation with their brand new neighbor was something like this, before they'd spoken to anything else, they asked if they cut down their trees. I thought oh my gosh, that's wild... Cuz I had the exact same experience with my brand new neighbors. They didn't even tell me their names yet when they came to the door and said can I cut down my trees?
Jackie Lulu 12 months ago
We had a next door neighbor who had several mastiff type dogs who she let run free. One of them, a Cane Corso looking dog, would go to our other neighbor's yard and steal toys. I would look out the window and see "Ava" trotting home with a plushie in her mouth. That neighbor ran a day care at home, and was justifiably freaked out. I spoke to the owner and she was very apologetic, and had a invisible fence installed. Then she left the dogs to figure it out on their own. Luckily, Ava was a sweet dog who would never hurt anyone, but this story might have had a different ending.
Load More Replies... sweetrottenpeaches 12 months ago (edited)
People who let their stupid dogs bark all day and night should get arrested. For real. I hate those AHs. I have a neighbour like that and yes, it can ruin quality of my living. I can't wait to move but unfortunately people like that AH are everywhere.
Traveling Lady Railfan 12 months ago
I can understand the frustration, but it's not the dog's fault. It's the owners. The dogs are barking all the time because they're probably either tied up or never let out of the yard, they're not socialized with. These are people who want a dog for protection or just because they want a dog but they don't want to take care of the dog. A happy dog doesn't bark all day. A well-socialized, tired dog from exercise, is content with the world, 99% of the time. When I hear a dog barking incessantly, I know that the owners are not giving it the stimulation and attention that it needs. I hate the people for doing this to the animal. I don't hate the dog for barking.
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