Going on a family vacation should be a time when everyone can finally relax. But while adults tend to recharge with some peace and quiet, children usually have a very different idea of fun. More often than not, it involves running around and making a whole lot of noise. At what point does that become too much?
One mom was totally fine with her 4-year-old yelling and shouting at the pool during their holiday. Her husband and mother-in-law, however, teamed up against her and kept trying to quiet the girl down. So she took it to Reddit to ask if she was a jerk for wanting to let her kid be a kid. Read the full story below.
The woman was perfectly fine with her 4-year-old daughter yelling and shouting at the pool, saying she should be allowed to be a kid
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Her husband and mother-in-law, however, had a very different opinion, and it led to some awkward family vacation drama
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We find loud noises irritating, and there’s an evolutionary reason behind it
There is a lot of noise we deal with every single day, from the moment we wake up to the moment we go to sleep. Someone’s mowing the lawn as we head to work. People are talking on the bus during the commute or the radio is blasting in the car. Coworkers are chatting all day during meetings. And it goes on and on. It can be overwhelming.
When a noise becomes too loud, it can actually cause us physical pain. It can also stress us out. And there’s an evolutionary explanation for why.
Essentially, sudden or unpredictable sounds activate the amygdala, the part of your brain responsible for detecting threats. When that kicks in, your body floods with stress hormones like cortisol and adrenaline. Your heart rate goes up and your blood pressure rises. You go into a kind of fight-or-flight mode, even if there’s no actual danger.
From an evolutionary standpoint, this response kept us alive. If you were walking through a forest thousands of years ago and heard a sudden roar or rustling in the bushes, that surge of adrenaline would tell your body to run. It was a survival mechanism.
But even though we don’t deal with predators as regularly as we used to, the wiring in our brains is still the same, which means everyday sounds can stress us out too. Cars honking in bumper-to-bumper traffic will do it. So will a group of kids screaming and splashing around in a pool.
But does that mean we should constantly be telling children to keep it down?
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That question has caused real conflict in communities around the world. In Toronto, a mother received an anonymous letter demanding she “correct” her four sons for screaming outside and keep them under constant supervision.
In Vancouver, a popular playground slide was removed entirely after neighbors complained about the racket. Over in Texas, a family was sued because their neighbors claimed four kids playing in a backyard playhouse violated their “tranquil quality of life.”
And in Amsterdam, a heated debate broke out over whether children should even be allowed to keep using a neighborhood soccer cage.
Katherine Martinko, editor, writer and author of Childhood Unplugged: Practical Advice to Get Kids Off Screens and Find Balance, argues that we need to stop being so hard on kids and actually let them make noise.
She thinks a big part of the problem is how disconnected many adults have become from what childhood actually sounds like. These days, kids spend so much time on phones and tablets that they’re often indoors and not outside as much as previous generations were. When most children are in structured activities or behind screens, even ordinary outdoor play starts to seem disruptive.
But Martinko says that play is essential, and play is loud. Kids yelp and squeal and crash into each other. That’s how they express joy and test their boundaries.
She also points out that adults aren’t held to the same standard. Leaf blowers, barking dogs, construction, and late-night parties are generally accepted as part of daily life. She believes children’s laughter and games deserve that same tolerance.
Of course, there’s a difference between regular noisy play and nonstop screaming, and setting reasonable limits like no shouting early in the morning or late at night is fair. But in Martinko’s view, treating the sound of kids playing like a nuisance is where it becomes a problem.
What do you think? Should this mom’s 4-year-old be allowed to yell and hoot at the pool on vacation? Or should she have listened to her husband and MIL and kept the volume down?
The woman later shared more details in the comments
Many readers felt the mom was in the wrong and agreed that it’s important to teach children manners, even on vacation
Others, however, thought the whole thing wasn’t such a big deal and said kids should be allowed to have fun
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I don't have kids. My nextdoor neighbor has 3 rambunctious boys. Their driveway is right outside my bedroom window. These boys laugh, shout, bang toys, etc. every day - never before 10am, never after 8pm. And I am happy to hear their laughter. Yes, sometimes I am reading a book in my room, and it can be distracting. And that's okay too.
It doesn't seem to occur to the mum here that it's not just the neighbours, but the father and the MIL, who may find the kid's screaming irritating. Yes, tell them to shut the F up, there' no excuse for being so loud. (/Grumpy Old Git mode).
This grouchy old man disagrees with you. Children should be able to play outside and make some noise (within reason, of course), and anyone who is bothered by it needs to go soak their head. Also, I don't think anyone mentioned this, but unless it's a dangerous situation grandparents shouldn't discipline their grandchildren or curb their behavior if the parents are present, so the grandmother shouldn't have opened her mouth.
Load More Replies...The way OP backpedals and "yes, buts..." every YTA makes me think the kid was definitely hootin' and hollerin' almost non-stop. Which really is to be expected; it's a normal part of growing up & learning how to express emotion, etc. and being in a swimming pool can be very exciting to a youngster. However, for the neighbors to have to listen to it for 2 hours is a bit much; I'm inclined to agree with MIL & dad on this one.
I don't have kids. My nextdoor neighbor has 3 rambunctious boys. Their driveway is right outside my bedroom window. These boys laugh, shout, bang toys, etc. every day - never before 10am, never after 8pm. And I am happy to hear their laughter. Yes, sometimes I am reading a book in my room, and it can be distracting. And that's okay too.
It doesn't seem to occur to the mum here that it's not just the neighbours, but the father and the MIL, who may find the kid's screaming irritating. Yes, tell them to shut the F up, there' no excuse for being so loud. (/Grumpy Old Git mode).
This grouchy old man disagrees with you. Children should be able to play outside and make some noise (within reason, of course), and anyone who is bothered by it needs to go soak their head. Also, I don't think anyone mentioned this, but unless it's a dangerous situation grandparents shouldn't discipline their grandchildren or curb their behavior if the parents are present, so the grandmother shouldn't have opened her mouth.
Load More Replies...The way OP backpedals and "yes, buts..." every YTA makes me think the kid was definitely hootin' and hollerin' almost non-stop. Which really is to be expected; it's a normal part of growing up & learning how to express emotion, etc. and being in a swimming pool can be very exciting to a youngster. However, for the neighbors to have to listen to it for 2 hours is a bit much; I'm inclined to agree with MIL & dad on this one.


















































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