Amanda Rae and Joe Robinson, former members of a Mormon cult known as The Kingston Group or the Order, have shared details of their experience as part of the community, including the disturbing incestuous practices that took place within the group.
During a live stream titled “A product of incest,” Robinson revealed to host Rae that his parents were half-siblings, and he had to undergo a blood test when he was ten years old to know which extended family member he could marry in the future.
- Joe Robinson underwent a blood test at age 10 to determine which extended family member he could marry within the Kingston Group.
- The Kingston Group, also known as the Order, practices polygamy and incest, aiming to build a "master race."
- Robinson revealed his father had 157 children with 14 wives, showcasing the scale of polygamy and incest within the cult.
Privately known as the Order, the Kingston Group is a polygamist cult that operates in Salt Lake City, Utah, despite the ban of this practice by the Mormon Church in 1890.
Its leader, Paul Elden Kingston, lives by an extrapolation of the Book of Mormon called the White Horse Prophecy, which predicts a cataclysmic time when the “black race” will rise up and attempt to destroy the white man.
Amanda Rae and Joe Robinson, two former members of the Kingston Group, have opened up about their time in the cult
Image credits: Amanda Rae
According to Kingston, members of the Order are responsible for building a master race. This is why marriages are arranged within the original four families that started the cult.
Robinson’s father had 157 children with 14 wives, he revealed on the YouTube video.
Everyone in his family took blood tests so that members of the church could see who their future spouse would be.
“I was at my mom’s house. Everyone lined up, got their blood tested, and then left,” he said. “[We were] like, ‘Why are you doing this?’ [They said], ‘So we can see who you can marry.’ They were just open about it.”
Rae also recalled seeing her friends undergoing blood tests. “I remember growing up in the Order, finding out that my friends were all getting tested, and I was like, ‘There’s something going on, you guys,'” she said.
Also known as the Order, the Kingston Group is a polygamist and incestuous clan in Salt Lake City
Image credits: Mormon Stories Podcast
Whenever he questioned his family’s decisions, Robinson’s doubts were immediately shut down by his father. “My dad would [hear] rumors that we think it’s weird. But then he set up a meeting, [and he’d say], ‘This is always going to happen, you guys need to stop making fun of it.'”
He continued: “You know, he’s standing up for himself because he married a sibling. My mom has two other sisters, who he also married. They were all of the same family.”
The 28-year-old YouTube host had a similar experience. Opposing the cult’s actions wasn’t an option unless she wanted to be excluded from her community.
“Because my dad was doing it, the leader was doing it…Are you really going to question the leadership, and then you have this bad stamp on your name?” she explained.
Joe Robinson, whose parents were half-siblings, explained that members of the cult took blood tests to know which extended family members they could marry
Image credits: Amanda Rae
Growing up, he sometimes found himself having a crush on a family member. “There was one crush I had in the Order. Of course, it was my cousin,” he revealed.
Rae left the Order in 2013. She was her father Paul’s first child to do so. Meanwhile, Robinson was kicked out of the cult at the age of 20 for complaining about the lack of treatment for his mother’s cancer.
Members of the clan often avoid hospitals, as they fear that government-backed doctors may demand birth controls exposing their incestuous relationships or inject them with a disease.
Robinson’s mother passed away shortly after he broke off from the Order.
Watch the full live stream below
During the live stream, Rae also addressed whether she witnessed cases of congenital disabilities in children born of incest.
“I saw kids were born with missing ears and things like that, but it was kind of rare to really see [more severe cases],” she said, adding that the blood tests were the reason why it was uncommon for members of the Order to have health issues.
Babies born of incest are at increased risk of suffering congenital disabilities, developmental delays, and genetic disorders, such as blindness, hearing loss, neonatal diabetes, and limb malformations.
In September 2022, ten members of the Kingston Group denounced the cult in a court of law, citing forced incestuous relationships, indoctrination, subjection to physical abuse, child labor, slave-like working conditions, and schemes to defraud the State.
One of the victims, Blaklyn, was 16 years old when she was forced to marry her cousin, Travis, in 2020, and she immediately became pregnant afterward. The marriage had been arranged so that Blaklyn could perpetuate the “pure Kingston blood” and obey her husband, who is 11 years older than her.
The Kingston Group denied any wrongdoing.
“Break the silence. Break the cycle,” a social media user commented
This is really sad and it's terrible that this sort of thing is happening. My heart goes out to these victims. This "Mormon" group split of from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS) over a hundred years ago in order to become a cult and practice polygamy. The LDS, which currently have over 17 million members worldwide, used to also use "Mormons" as a nickname but recently stopped to avoid getting their organizations mixed up.
They decided that they found it offensive and ask not to be called “Mormons”.
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The White Horse prophecy is, like all of Joseph Smith's prophesies, bunk, but it is entirely misrepresented here. It states that at some time, the U.S. Constitution will be "dangling as if from a thread," and will be rescued by Mormons. Some even thought the prophecy would be fulfilled by Mitt Romney.
I grew up in a small town where a lot of Mormon polygamists lived. We all knew that some of the girls in high school were wife number 5 to guys old as their grandpas. But they attended the mainstream LDS church and nobody said anything. The breakaways are not as broken away as the mainstream LDS church wants people to think.
I strongly recommend "Under the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakauer, which exposes a similar branch of Mormon bugnuts.
As if we needed any more evidence that exposing children to religion is brain washing.
A cult has bad practices and that means all religions in the world are brainwashing? I agree that children should be kept away from cults like these, but thinking all religions are like this is exactly how other forms of prejudice like racism, sexism, and homophobia start. Many black people support incest, does that justify treating all black people like they support it? Many gay people are in cults with crazy beliefs like this one, that doesn't justify homophobia. Most religions, including big ones like mainstream Christianity and Islam (again, MAINSTREAM) only encourage respect and love, and they don't encourage questionable practices like this cult does. Some religions like Jainism are literally all about peace and love. Now I won't say all religions are good. Clearly this cult has questionable beliefs. But very few religions are like this. Not even all parts of Christianity are like this. In fact not even all Mormons. You just hear about the bad cults because they stand out.
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Jeez! The pure unadulterated crazy that white people come up so we can claim that Black people are after us. Pure projection, we spent centuries just getting away with murder to turn around and make ourselves the victim.This level of obsession is the same with domestic abusers, stalkers, and serial killers.
This is really sad and it's terrible that this sort of thing is happening. My heart goes out to these victims. This "Mormon" group split of from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS) over a hundred years ago in order to become a cult and practice polygamy. The LDS, which currently have over 17 million members worldwide, used to also use "Mormons" as a nickname but recently stopped to avoid getting their organizations mixed up.
They decided that they found it offensive and ask not to be called “Mormons”.
Load More Replies... The White Horse prophecy is, like all of Joseph Smith's prophesies, bunk, but it is entirely misrepresented here. It states that at some time, the U.S. Constitution will be "dangling as if from a thread," and will be rescued by Mormons. Some even thought the prophecy would be fulfilled by Mitt Romney.
I grew up in a small town where a lot of Mormon polygamists lived. We all knew that some of the girls in high school were wife number 5 to guys old as their grandpas. But they attended the mainstream LDS church and nobody said anything. The breakaways are not as broken away as the mainstream LDS church wants people to think.
I strongly recommend "Under the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakauer, which exposes a similar branch of Mormon bugnuts.
As if we needed any more evidence that exposing children to religion is brain washing.
A cult has bad practices and that means all religions in the world are brainwashing? I agree that children should be kept away from cults like these, but thinking all religions are like this is exactly how other forms of prejudice like racism, sexism, and homophobia start. Many black people support incest, does that justify treating all black people like they support it? Many gay people are in cults with crazy beliefs like this one, that doesn't justify homophobia. Most religions, including big ones like mainstream Christianity and Islam (again, MAINSTREAM) only encourage respect and love, and they don't encourage questionable practices like this cult does. Some religions like Jainism are literally all about peace and love. Now I won't say all religions are good. Clearly this cult has questionable beliefs. But very few religions are like this. Not even all parts of Christianity are like this. In fact not even all Mormons. You just hear about the bad cults because they stand out.
Load More Replies... Jeez! The pure unadulterated crazy that white people come up so we can claim that Black people are after us. Pure projection, we spent centuries just getting away with murder to turn around and make ourselves the victim.This level of obsession is the same with domestic abusers, stalkers, and serial killers.
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