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Brother Reminds Pregnant Sister That The Baby Is An “Actual Human Person, Not A Fun Alter Ego” After Hearing Her Choice In Names
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Brother Reminds Pregnant Sister That The Baby Is An “Actual Human Person, Not A Fun Alter Ego” After Hearing Her Choice In Names

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Parents want what’s best for their kids, including the name they give their baby. But sometimes it happens that the pursuit of a creative and meaningful name takes it a step too far.

Like it happened for this 23-year-old woman, Hailey, who is pregnant with a baby girl. While Hailey is positive she has her two runner-up names chosen, her older brother is not so convinced. In fact, he fears his sister’s choice of names will make life hard for his niece.

So he confronted Hailey and shared how the situation unfolded in this AITA post.

A woman who’s pregnant with her first baby girl picked two unusual names that raised her brother’s eyebrows

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So her brother confronted her and said that these names will make her niece’s life miserable, which insulted the soon-to-be-mom

So the author felt obliged to warn his sister about the damage these names could do to his niece

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The OP’s sister got upset and shared their private messages with the whole family

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The OP later added a couple of edits to the original post to make things clearer

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Rare names may take a while for people to comprehend, which can lead to confusion, an expert says

“More and more parents are giving their children names that are rare or very unusual, which is not always the same as difficult,” Pamela Redmond, a baby name expert and the creator of Nameberry, known as the world’s leading expert on baby names, told Bored Panda in an interview via email.

Redmond explained that rare names are by definition more likely to be unfamiliar to others, so it may take a while for people to comprehend, pronounce, and spell the name correctly. “These problems may be compounded when the name has a spelling or pronunciation that’s different from that in the other person’s language or culture,” the name expert explained.

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Redmond gave an example: “An Irish name like Siobhan, for instance, might be difficult for an English speaker who doesn’t see Sio as equalling Shi or know that bh is pronounced in Irish as a v in English.”

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A child with a rare name may be forced to respell and repronounce their name to others over and over again

Moreover, Redmond continued, besides cultural differences, many very unusual or rare names are invented names or new spellings of more popular names, so that can cause confusion too.

“If you hear Maddalynn, which was given to only six baby girls, you may guess it’s the same as Madeline. But then what about Madeleine or Madelyn? It can get very confusing and force you and your child to respell and repronounce the name again and again.”

On the other hand, “a unique name can instantly make people see you as a unique person”

Having said that, Redmond explained that “many people who have unusual or rare names report that once other people learn the name and its spelling and pronunciation, they often remember it BETTER than they do a more popular name like Emma or Jack.”

She added that “a unique name can instantly make people see you as a unique person, a one-of-a-kind individual, which may be why you or your parents chose the unique name to begin with!” Find out more about unique names here on the Nameberry website.

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When asked about namer’s remorse, Redmond said that she indeed has heard of it and that it’s a fairly common issue.

“More and more parents are experiencing it as the number of available names increases along with the pressure to make a perfect choice. We recently ran a story on parents who felt baby name regret and changed their baby’s name, as did Kylie Jenner,” the name expert concluded.

The OP also clarified that the father of the baby is not in the picture

Many people showed their support for the author who confronted his sister about her choice of names

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Others thought that everyone is to blame here

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Some people thought that the author was wrong in this situation

 

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Matt R
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people calling in the AH seem to forget that she was asking for people's thoughts and he had the courtesy to give them in private rather say his opinion publicly.

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Honu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of those verdicts seem to be related to the fact that he brought the stripper thing into the mix. It did seem pretty judgy to me and wholly unnecessary. I agree with him about those names being burdensome, though. It doesn't bode well for the child if their mom's first major choice about setting them on the road to their future is all about her and her ego. It's an interesting point about asking for thoughts, though. I'm not sure where I come down on that. She put up a poll. She asked people to pick one of two options. It doesn't sound like she added an Other option or a comment option. So she asked for thoughts, but she limited the scope. He went outside of the scope, but I have a hard time blaming him.

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Monday
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't even name my Sim Redemption Cosmos let alone an actual human child.....

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Zedrapazia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You say it, her names are like what would happen if you'd mash the names of several Final Fantasy characters together and then sprinkled random adjectives on top.

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WonderWoman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mom is a "dancer" and Dad is in court ordered rehab. Saddling that child with a stupid AF name will only add to the multitude of issues I sense she will be facing.

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XenoMurph
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was about to type exactly the same thing. "This baby is her redemption and has helped her make peace with her body." Having a kid with a junkie to make herself feel better. I don't usually get this judgemental about things, but this just enfuriates me. Maybe the OP can change her name when he inevitably becomes the carer when the mother has her breakdown/relapse.

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RoanTheMad
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean.. not as if there's regular names out there that mean things along the line of "Redemption" (example being: Ariana, in Albanian, this name carries the meaning of "Golden Life/Freedom/Redemption, or Renee, meaning "reborn") and if you want the "cosmos" part so badly go for "Luna" or "Stella" instead, (Ariana Luna or Renee Luna sounds quite nice, actually)

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Honu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But then people wouldn't ask her about it her cre8ive name and give her to opportunity to spout about how deep she is and her own personal processes and experiences. And what is a baby for if not to show off and make everything about yourself?

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Ron Baza
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Please judge this and tell me what you think.” Also: “Don’t be judgemental when you tell me what you think.”

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Rosanna Jackson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Naming a baby after what it does for you is selfish and immature

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zovjraar me
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my sister wanted to name her first-born Arian. Thankfully, i came up with an alternative that she liked. our whole family is white, blond haired, blue eyed. She said people don't think like that anymore. current events have proven otherwise!

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BluEyedSeoulite
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought it was pronounced like Ariana without the last A and didn't get the issue. Then I read on and realized that isn't how it was probably pronounced...

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Tyke
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she can't take that sort of comment from her brother she'll be in for a shock when the baby's born and she goes with those names. Everyone and their mother will comment. She'd best develop a thicker skin or rethink her choice.

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Icecream Sarang
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My sister still insults my name choices. They’re all perfectly normal. Siblings can just be jerks sometimes.

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AliJanx
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As one who has had to spell my first and last names my entire life in almost every customer service interaction, I have great sympathy for those children.

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Honu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep. Also fun when it gets spelled wrong on official paperwork and you need to get it fixed.

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Rocco MZ
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother and his wife named their kid a very stripper-ish name with a very childish spelling. I didn't say anything because it was none of my business, but their daughter changed her name the day she turned 18.

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Auntriarch
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think I could name a child anything that rhymes with pënis

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Donkey boi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My sister didn't listen to me when I told her the names she wanted for her boys were a bad idea. We moved the England before my sister was born, so she knew nothing about life in Ireland, but likes to think of herself as Irish so went of a sort of !Irish theme" for the names. Her first son shares a name with an Irish slang word for penis, the second means 'head'. She recently visited Ireland, she asked me why people in our home town kept calling her boys Richard & Edward.

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Colin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The one going off about "it's not a stripper name, it's a tennis player name". Give me a break. Venus is being partnered with Cosmos. Definitely a stripper name. Venus is also a statue, and a German pron award.

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Dave M
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US needs to be like other countries where baby names need to be approved. This nonsense of "unique" spellings and made up name are a burden on the child, parents who do it should be charged with child abuse.

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Seth
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She asked for opinions, and he gave his opinion honestly (and privately). Her reaction of trying to turn the family against him just further proves that this pregnancy is all about her, and she is NOT thinking of the baby as a human being. The mom is probably mostly angry that the brother had the spine to be honest when she was too much of a coward to say something.

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Brocken Blue
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And.*this * is why I just held my tongue and prayed to gods I know aren’t listening for the brief couple months my pregnant best friend considered naming her daughter Derricka. It sounded like the name of an animated oil derrik so I was deeply thankful to all those gods I didn’t believe in when she came to her senses in the third trimester, and decided to name the miss something else

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Tina Hugh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He’s looking out for his niece, advocating for her to get a normal name that won’t be stigmatizing or require her to always have to spell it for people

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Windtree
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say NTA, she did ask and he answered in private. She has the right to disagree and she should have said so in private, as well.

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Translate my name and it means "Moon/shine". Yeah, that was well thought out, parents. If you translate it literally into English, i'm an illegally brewed alcoholic beverage.... And that's why I go by the nickname Leo.

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Death Metal Kitty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"No one needs your negativity" - no, they need it. Someone needs to step in and save your stupid self from itself.

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Chloe Patt
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mothers: crazy a$$ spelling for children's names The same mothers: how dare you pronounce/spell my made up words wrong?!

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magix (they/them)
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA-it really does sound like a stripper name. Also, f**king "Redemption"?! Maybe the dad isn't the only one who should be in rehab (/jk)

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Stephanie Did It
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if the baby's mom even knows the meaning of redemption, or just feels it has a religious or spiritual sound to it. Too many people name their babies with words they heard and thought were meaningful, leaving everyone who meets the child wondering Why???

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Joyce Blodgett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Venus Kali." Name the kid after a large planet and a false thing of "worship." "Redemption Cosmos." Child will very quickly shorten it to RC once she starts being teased about such a....'name.' But if I was family and was asked for my opinion (which baby mama doesn't really want), I'd just walk away without giving anything. Not my kid, not mine to raise, not mine to have to go to the front door and bellow for at dinnertime. I can just hear it now: "REDEMPTION COSMOS JONES (whatever), get home for supper NOW!" Kid would age a full year just waiting for its name to be said 🙄.

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Hawk
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn’t even disrespect my pets by naming them something that is more about me than them, and my pets name literally won’t affect their life at all. Can you imagine how much pressure a child will feel growing up knowing that they’re responsible for being their parents “redemption”? Not to mention, the mother is gonna be in for a rude awakening when the child gets to an age where they start wanting autonomy over themselves and she realizes that this kid isn’t a fun little baby doll thats only purpose is to give her life meaning

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l bee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I met a Starson yesterday. Why? That's like naming my daughter Rainbow because I had multiple miscarriages before her. Why saddle anyone with that?

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Kat Min
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Someone needs to be speak about sh1t like this and if she names her baby like a stripper, at least someone told her beforehand. (And seriousyl, 'redemption''? because the pregnancy was important to you?? Why not name you baby Clearance Sale because you scored a great deal there? Or lacrosse Quarterfinals because hubby scored at one? A baby will be a PERSON one day, not your personal assessory!)

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Max
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm more concerned at how she doesn't seem to see this baby as a person tbh.

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JOHN DOE
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a hiring manager only an idiot would dismiss a resume because the name was unusual. I don't think anyone would want to work at a company that puts the name above the experience and education. Also as some with a very difficult last name. It sucks educated teachers couldn't take the time to learn pronunciation. It was a hassle but it didn't scar me. Who cares about the sub names, only people close to us know them so your left with Venus or Redemption. Big deal. By the time their of school age they will fit right in as this next generation isn't going along with traditional names. I'm sick of people acting like the name is going to determine the kids future. No offense to the sister but her job and the rehab dad will have way more to do with the child's path that any name ever will.

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Livingwithcfs
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I grew up with an unusual name... it was horrible, the way people twisted it into really degrading terms and bullied me because of it. My name didn't fair any better in the work place - its a name that doesn't fit into a standard work environment. As soon as i could I changed my name to an average non stand out name. Remember a child has to live with the name and children can be cruel to each other. You really must think of that when you name a child, put your own ego to the side when naming al child

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Antoinette Maldari
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My name gets interpreted as "Internet" in voice to text speak. Also, I don't know if it's my Brooklyn accent, but some people can't understand it clearly until I say "As in MARIE..."

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Tyranamar Seuss
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think a lot of kids have really bizarre names now. This kid will fit right in. It won't be quite like Jennifer. But names like these are going to be the equivalent of Crystal or Windy by the time this kid grows up. Every other person in the 60's or 70's was named some nature name, Heather, Misty, etc. Those names were new and strange then. Now they're very common. I remember the first time I heard Brittney. I thought it was so unique. LOL. Now everybody is named that. But she asked for an opinion. He's entitled to give one.

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Antoinette Maldari
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that if you are going to name your child something "out there", you should change your own name to that until the baby is born and see what kind of reactions you will get, then try to empathize with your child going around with that name. Did you feel comfortable using that name or a bit off? ' '

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NamiKoa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like the name Kali, to be honest. It can be pronounced well in many languages, and as far as I know western people originally misinterpreted the goddess Kali as being a negative persona. "In Hinduism, the meaning of Kali is the “black one” as it is associated with time, change and destruction. But Kali is also considered a loving mother and protector of her devotees. She is also associated with empowerment and overcoming obstacles, making her a powerful and popular goddess among Hindus."

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R. H.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

... and everyone who meets the kid will know Mamma is an idiot.

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OmBoyGanesh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP has the opinion these names are more appropriate for a stripper stage name (he was explicit on it being a stage name and NOT anything to do with the personality or character of the person being named) than what a child should be saddled with. He wasn’t using it derogatory. He even clarified his support of stage names and ones that work well for this type of entertainment work. So why is he being harped on for thinking certain names may work better for stage than personal? I’m just genuinely curious why one can’t be of the opinion “Dee Dee Melons” for example, is a crappy name for a person to deal with in society but excellent as a stage name for someone who strips. OP supports his sisters job. He’s not the one equating his opinion of names with shame or sexism. He’s just of the opinion that these particular names work better as stage names. I get that a lot of people will make negative connotations, but isn’t OP clarifying he isn’t? C.O.Y.O.T.E.

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Xenon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a coworker who's baby's mom named her Destiny Star.

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Brooke Weber
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a pretty normal name and people STILL mispronounce it/spell it wrong!

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Mickysixxx
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Meh, call them whatever it's none of his beeswax. Redemption can be shortened to Red and Cossy works. I think he is being condescending saying she is young when there is only 1yr difference. Not my choice in names but also not my kids

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Katie Lutesinger
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you think those names are whacky, yesterday a friend showed me a newspaper clipping concerning a kid whose name was... Noble Savage. No I'm not kidding.

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JessRS
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What kind of a*****e calls their kid Redemption, that's a f*****g ridiculous name.

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Anne S.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't see anything wrong in voicing concerns over baby names. Especially if it's in a way of having a conversation/dialogue. He did not do it in a group chat. However, I think it might have gone over better in a phone call/face time or in person. That way things are not misunderstood and the conversation is flowing uninterrupted. Additionally, instead of saying just don't use those names, perhaps suggest how to incorporate them differently or suggest a name that would have the same meaning. Being creative. Just a thought.

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Lady Miss Pie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This poor baby is already saddled with a job—her mother’s redemption? That is her CHILD. My daughter is the greatest blessing I have ever known but she is not here to fix me or redeem me; I am here for HER. Good lord.

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PENNY
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a ghetto name You're right on being a stripper name maybe your sister thinks the baby needs redemption since it's going to be an illegitimate little bastard

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Lori T Wisconsin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mom is a fool and I pity the poor child. Kids with weird names get bullied way more often.

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Melissa Hollowell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Am I the only one who doesn't hate the name Redemption? She could go by Demi. I don't care for the Cosmos part, unless that is her last name considering it was part of both options.

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Ches Yamada
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate my name. I was supposed to be a boy, so when I came out it was a surprise. My parents just said, "give her whatever girls' name is the most popular, whatever', without a care or thought put into it. I'm a creative, free spirit myself and would have LOVED a cool name. It's not as if having a common one helped me in life - I was still effed over in school, by my family, etc. Let people name their kids whatever. It's the parenting that matters, not name choosing. That said, my friends online all call me by my nickname or, funny enough, nickname of said nickname).

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NotACookieCutter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dr. Marijuana Pepsi Vandyck refused to change her name and wrote her thesis titled: “ Black names in white classrooms: Teacher behaviors and student perceptions.” according to the NewYork Post. The Post story states her sisters are “Kimberly and Robin.” Her unusual name did not stop her from being a success (may have hindered her a bit along her journey).

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Fairsher
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 3 children's names that would sound great when they became adults because I wanted strong names, not weird, fad names of the year.

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Icecream Sarang
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have one of the most common names in the freaking WORLD. Nearly every language and religion has a version of it. I have to spell and repeat it all over the place. I loathed it growing up. I think this is pretty typical of all kids. I eventually grew into it. Naming a child is something that is only the business of their parent(s). You don’t have to like it. You don’t have to agree with it. You’re even allowed to voice your concerns. But, in the end, it has nothing to do with you. Who is to say the child will hate their name? Redemption is a pretty strong name, and so many Nick name possibilities. Venus Kali…that girl will be a goddess.

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RosenCranzLives
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think of the name Elon Schmuck named his recent offspring. X Æ A-12. That's going to be fun when he's 8-18. 'Cuz kids that age have so much empathy, kindness, and understanding. Right?

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Gwyn
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Telling some of these parents that the names are too unusual isn't going to matter, they are choosing the names because of that very fact or because it's associated with that thing, and they don't care about the implications. Unless there is some subtle meaning they aren't aware of, where informing them would actually change their mind, you'll just have to help the kid cope until they can change their name.

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gas station cola
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

unfortunately when naming a baby, you have to think of every word the name rhymes with, because kids in school will do that in order to bully others. "venus penïs"...

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Sonja
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He should have simply said: "hey sis, I really love your creativity! But I'm sure you love your child already and thus for you should ask yourself: have you ever seen a banker or a successful entrepreneur named like this? Maybe if you were a famous actress or a rockstar your girl could get away with this but as it is, your child will only be met with prejudices and disadvantages in her life if you don't rethink your choices. I beg you. Make a bank appointment and go in there really imagining your grown daughter being hired there with those names! Look at the nameplates at the door and rethink your choices." People love to tell you famous examples of those names to claim they're ok. But you need to bring them back to reality. They're NOT famous. And there's no guarantee that their children ever will be. Those names are ok for Paris Hilton's kids, not for common peons like us.

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Lea S.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to know what the 'plenty of cute nicknames' for Redemption were. I don't mind Venus, or Kali. Also, if you think your name is really bad you can go change it. ALSO, who are these dumbass bosses/higher-ups hiring people on their names and not their talent?

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Blaze Fitzwater
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It took me a few seconds but here it goes: Red, Reed, Demi, Dempsey, Empti...🤔😮‍💨

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YTA because she was definitely trying to be mean but then tried to pretend she wasn’t.

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Matt R
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people calling in the AH seem to forget that she was asking for people's thoughts and he had the courtesy to give them in private rather say his opinion publicly.

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Honu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of those verdicts seem to be related to the fact that he brought the stripper thing into the mix. It did seem pretty judgy to me and wholly unnecessary. I agree with him about those names being burdensome, though. It doesn't bode well for the child if their mom's first major choice about setting them on the road to their future is all about her and her ego. It's an interesting point about asking for thoughts, though. I'm not sure where I come down on that. She put up a poll. She asked people to pick one of two options. It doesn't sound like she added an Other option or a comment option. So she asked for thoughts, but she limited the scope. He went outside of the scope, but I have a hard time blaming him.

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Monday
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't even name my Sim Redemption Cosmos let alone an actual human child.....

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Zedrapazia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You say it, her names are like what would happen if you'd mash the names of several Final Fantasy characters together and then sprinkled random adjectives on top.

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WonderWoman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mom is a "dancer" and Dad is in court ordered rehab. Saddling that child with a stupid AF name will only add to the multitude of issues I sense she will be facing.

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XenoMurph
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was about to type exactly the same thing. "This baby is her redemption and has helped her make peace with her body." Having a kid with a junkie to make herself feel better. I don't usually get this judgemental about things, but this just enfuriates me. Maybe the OP can change her name when he inevitably becomes the carer when the mother has her breakdown/relapse.

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RoanTheMad
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean.. not as if there's regular names out there that mean things along the line of "Redemption" (example being: Ariana, in Albanian, this name carries the meaning of "Golden Life/Freedom/Redemption, or Renee, meaning "reborn") and if you want the "cosmos" part so badly go for "Luna" or "Stella" instead, (Ariana Luna or Renee Luna sounds quite nice, actually)

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Honu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But then people wouldn't ask her about it her cre8ive name and give her to opportunity to spout about how deep she is and her own personal processes and experiences. And what is a baby for if not to show off and make everything about yourself?

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Ron Baza
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Please judge this and tell me what you think.” Also: “Don’t be judgemental when you tell me what you think.”

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Rosanna Jackson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Naming a baby after what it does for you is selfish and immature

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zovjraar me
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my sister wanted to name her first-born Arian. Thankfully, i came up with an alternative that she liked. our whole family is white, blond haired, blue eyed. She said people don't think like that anymore. current events have proven otherwise!

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BluEyedSeoulite
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought it was pronounced like Ariana without the last A and didn't get the issue. Then I read on and realized that isn't how it was probably pronounced...

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Tyke
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she can't take that sort of comment from her brother she'll be in for a shock when the baby's born and she goes with those names. Everyone and their mother will comment. She'd best develop a thicker skin or rethink her choice.

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Icecream Sarang
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My sister still insults my name choices. They’re all perfectly normal. Siblings can just be jerks sometimes.

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AliJanx
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As one who has had to spell my first and last names my entire life in almost every customer service interaction, I have great sympathy for those children.

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Honu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep. Also fun when it gets spelled wrong on official paperwork and you need to get it fixed.

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Rocco MZ
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother and his wife named their kid a very stripper-ish name with a very childish spelling. I didn't say anything because it was none of my business, but their daughter changed her name the day she turned 18.

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Auntriarch
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think I could name a child anything that rhymes with pënis

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Donkey boi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My sister didn't listen to me when I told her the names she wanted for her boys were a bad idea. We moved the England before my sister was born, so she knew nothing about life in Ireland, but likes to think of herself as Irish so went of a sort of !Irish theme" for the names. Her first son shares a name with an Irish slang word for penis, the second means 'head'. She recently visited Ireland, she asked me why people in our home town kept calling her boys Richard & Edward.

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Colin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The one going off about "it's not a stripper name, it's a tennis player name". Give me a break. Venus is being partnered with Cosmos. Definitely a stripper name. Venus is also a statue, and a German pron award.

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Dave M
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US needs to be like other countries where baby names need to be approved. This nonsense of "unique" spellings and made up name are a burden on the child, parents who do it should be charged with child abuse.

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Seth
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She asked for opinions, and he gave his opinion honestly (and privately). Her reaction of trying to turn the family against him just further proves that this pregnancy is all about her, and she is NOT thinking of the baby as a human being. The mom is probably mostly angry that the brother had the spine to be honest when she was too much of a coward to say something.

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Brocken Blue
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And.*this * is why I just held my tongue and prayed to gods I know aren’t listening for the brief couple months my pregnant best friend considered naming her daughter Derricka. It sounded like the name of an animated oil derrik so I was deeply thankful to all those gods I didn’t believe in when she came to her senses in the third trimester, and decided to name the miss something else

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Tina Hugh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He’s looking out for his niece, advocating for her to get a normal name that won’t be stigmatizing or require her to always have to spell it for people

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Windtree
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say NTA, she did ask and he answered in private. She has the right to disagree and she should have said so in private, as well.

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Translate my name and it means "Moon/shine". Yeah, that was well thought out, parents. If you translate it literally into English, i'm an illegally brewed alcoholic beverage.... And that's why I go by the nickname Leo.

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Death Metal Kitty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"No one needs your negativity" - no, they need it. Someone needs to step in and save your stupid self from itself.

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Chloe Patt
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mothers: crazy a$$ spelling for children's names The same mothers: how dare you pronounce/spell my made up words wrong?!

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magix (they/them)
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA-it really does sound like a stripper name. Also, f**king "Redemption"?! Maybe the dad isn't the only one who should be in rehab (/jk)

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Stephanie Did It
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if the baby's mom even knows the meaning of redemption, or just feels it has a religious or spiritual sound to it. Too many people name their babies with words they heard and thought were meaningful, leaving everyone who meets the child wondering Why???

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Joyce Blodgett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Venus Kali." Name the kid after a large planet and a false thing of "worship." "Redemption Cosmos." Child will very quickly shorten it to RC once she starts being teased about such a....'name.' But if I was family and was asked for my opinion (which baby mama doesn't really want), I'd just walk away without giving anything. Not my kid, not mine to raise, not mine to have to go to the front door and bellow for at dinnertime. I can just hear it now: "REDEMPTION COSMOS JONES (whatever), get home for supper NOW!" Kid would age a full year just waiting for its name to be said 🙄.

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Hawk
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn’t even disrespect my pets by naming them something that is more about me than them, and my pets name literally won’t affect their life at all. Can you imagine how much pressure a child will feel growing up knowing that they’re responsible for being their parents “redemption”? Not to mention, the mother is gonna be in for a rude awakening when the child gets to an age where they start wanting autonomy over themselves and she realizes that this kid isn’t a fun little baby doll thats only purpose is to give her life meaning

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l bee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I met a Starson yesterday. Why? That's like naming my daughter Rainbow because I had multiple miscarriages before her. Why saddle anyone with that?

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Kat Min
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Someone needs to be speak about sh1t like this and if she names her baby like a stripper, at least someone told her beforehand. (And seriousyl, 'redemption''? because the pregnancy was important to you?? Why not name you baby Clearance Sale because you scored a great deal there? Or lacrosse Quarterfinals because hubby scored at one? A baby will be a PERSON one day, not your personal assessory!)

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Max
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm more concerned at how she doesn't seem to see this baby as a person tbh.

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JOHN DOE
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a hiring manager only an idiot would dismiss a resume because the name was unusual. I don't think anyone would want to work at a company that puts the name above the experience and education. Also as some with a very difficult last name. It sucks educated teachers couldn't take the time to learn pronunciation. It was a hassle but it didn't scar me. Who cares about the sub names, only people close to us know them so your left with Venus or Redemption. Big deal. By the time their of school age they will fit right in as this next generation isn't going along with traditional names. I'm sick of people acting like the name is going to determine the kids future. No offense to the sister but her job and the rehab dad will have way more to do with the child's path that any name ever will.

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Livingwithcfs
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I grew up with an unusual name... it was horrible, the way people twisted it into really degrading terms and bullied me because of it. My name didn't fair any better in the work place - its a name that doesn't fit into a standard work environment. As soon as i could I changed my name to an average non stand out name. Remember a child has to live with the name and children can be cruel to each other. You really must think of that when you name a child, put your own ego to the side when naming al child

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Antoinette Maldari
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My name gets interpreted as "Internet" in voice to text speak. Also, I don't know if it's my Brooklyn accent, but some people can't understand it clearly until I say "As in MARIE..."

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Tyranamar Seuss
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think a lot of kids have really bizarre names now. This kid will fit right in. It won't be quite like Jennifer. But names like these are going to be the equivalent of Crystal or Windy by the time this kid grows up. Every other person in the 60's or 70's was named some nature name, Heather, Misty, etc. Those names were new and strange then. Now they're very common. I remember the first time I heard Brittney. I thought it was so unique. LOL. Now everybody is named that. But she asked for an opinion. He's entitled to give one.

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Antoinette Maldari
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that if you are going to name your child something "out there", you should change your own name to that until the baby is born and see what kind of reactions you will get, then try to empathize with your child going around with that name. Did you feel comfortable using that name or a bit off? ' '

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NamiKoa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like the name Kali, to be honest. It can be pronounced well in many languages, and as far as I know western people originally misinterpreted the goddess Kali as being a negative persona. "In Hinduism, the meaning of Kali is the “black one” as it is associated with time, change and destruction. But Kali is also considered a loving mother and protector of her devotees. She is also associated with empowerment and overcoming obstacles, making her a powerful and popular goddess among Hindus."

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R. H.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

... and everyone who meets the kid will know Mamma is an idiot.

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OmBoyGanesh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP has the opinion these names are more appropriate for a stripper stage name (he was explicit on it being a stage name and NOT anything to do with the personality or character of the person being named) than what a child should be saddled with. He wasn’t using it derogatory. He even clarified his support of stage names and ones that work well for this type of entertainment work. So why is he being harped on for thinking certain names may work better for stage than personal? I’m just genuinely curious why one can’t be of the opinion “Dee Dee Melons” for example, is a crappy name for a person to deal with in society but excellent as a stage name for someone who strips. OP supports his sisters job. He’s not the one equating his opinion of names with shame or sexism. He’s just of the opinion that these particular names work better as stage names. I get that a lot of people will make negative connotations, but isn’t OP clarifying he isn’t? C.O.Y.O.T.E.

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Xenon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a coworker who's baby's mom named her Destiny Star.

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Brooke Weber
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a pretty normal name and people STILL mispronounce it/spell it wrong!

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Mickysixxx
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Meh, call them whatever it's none of his beeswax. Redemption can be shortened to Red and Cossy works. I think he is being condescending saying she is young when there is only 1yr difference. Not my choice in names but also not my kids

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Katie Lutesinger
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you think those names are whacky, yesterday a friend showed me a newspaper clipping concerning a kid whose name was... Noble Savage. No I'm not kidding.

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JessRS
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What kind of a*****e calls their kid Redemption, that's a f*****g ridiculous name.

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Anne S.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't see anything wrong in voicing concerns over baby names. Especially if it's in a way of having a conversation/dialogue. He did not do it in a group chat. However, I think it might have gone over better in a phone call/face time or in person. That way things are not misunderstood and the conversation is flowing uninterrupted. Additionally, instead of saying just don't use those names, perhaps suggest how to incorporate them differently or suggest a name that would have the same meaning. Being creative. Just a thought.

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Lady Miss Pie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This poor baby is already saddled with a job—her mother’s redemption? That is her CHILD. My daughter is the greatest blessing I have ever known but she is not here to fix me or redeem me; I am here for HER. Good lord.

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PENNY
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a ghetto name You're right on being a stripper name maybe your sister thinks the baby needs redemption since it's going to be an illegitimate little bastard

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Lori T Wisconsin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mom is a fool and I pity the poor child. Kids with weird names get bullied way more often.

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Melissa Hollowell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Am I the only one who doesn't hate the name Redemption? She could go by Demi. I don't care for the Cosmos part, unless that is her last name considering it was part of both options.

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Ches Yamada
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate my name. I was supposed to be a boy, so when I came out it was a surprise. My parents just said, "give her whatever girls' name is the most popular, whatever', without a care or thought put into it. I'm a creative, free spirit myself and would have LOVED a cool name. It's not as if having a common one helped me in life - I was still effed over in school, by my family, etc. Let people name their kids whatever. It's the parenting that matters, not name choosing. That said, my friends online all call me by my nickname or, funny enough, nickname of said nickname).

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NotACookieCutter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dr. Marijuana Pepsi Vandyck refused to change her name and wrote her thesis titled: “ Black names in white classrooms: Teacher behaviors and student perceptions.” according to the NewYork Post. The Post story states her sisters are “Kimberly and Robin.” Her unusual name did not stop her from being a success (may have hindered her a bit along her journey).

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Fairsher
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 3 children's names that would sound great when they became adults because I wanted strong names, not weird, fad names of the year.

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Icecream Sarang
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have one of the most common names in the freaking WORLD. Nearly every language and religion has a version of it. I have to spell and repeat it all over the place. I loathed it growing up. I think this is pretty typical of all kids. I eventually grew into it. Naming a child is something that is only the business of their parent(s). You don’t have to like it. You don’t have to agree with it. You’re even allowed to voice your concerns. But, in the end, it has nothing to do with you. Who is to say the child will hate their name? Redemption is a pretty strong name, and so many Nick name possibilities. Venus Kali…that girl will be a goddess.

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RosenCranzLives
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think of the name Elon Schmuck named his recent offspring. X Æ A-12. That's going to be fun when he's 8-18. 'Cuz kids that age have so much empathy, kindness, and understanding. Right?

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Gwyn
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Telling some of these parents that the names are too unusual isn't going to matter, they are choosing the names because of that very fact or because it's associated with that thing, and they don't care about the implications. Unless there is some subtle meaning they aren't aware of, where informing them would actually change their mind, you'll just have to help the kid cope until they can change their name.

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gas station cola
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

unfortunately when naming a baby, you have to think of every word the name rhymes with, because kids in school will do that in order to bully others. "venus penïs"...

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Sonja
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He should have simply said: "hey sis, I really love your creativity! But I'm sure you love your child already and thus for you should ask yourself: have you ever seen a banker or a successful entrepreneur named like this? Maybe if you were a famous actress or a rockstar your girl could get away with this but as it is, your child will only be met with prejudices and disadvantages in her life if you don't rethink your choices. I beg you. Make a bank appointment and go in there really imagining your grown daughter being hired there with those names! Look at the nameplates at the door and rethink your choices." People love to tell you famous examples of those names to claim they're ok. But you need to bring them back to reality. They're NOT famous. And there's no guarantee that their children ever will be. Those names are ok for Paris Hilton's kids, not for common peons like us.

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Lea S.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to know what the 'plenty of cute nicknames' for Redemption were. I don't mind Venus, or Kali. Also, if you think your name is really bad you can go change it. ALSO, who are these dumbass bosses/higher-ups hiring people on their names and not their talent?

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Blaze Fitzwater
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It took me a few seconds but here it goes: Red, Reed, Demi, Dempsey, Empti...🤔😮‍💨

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YTA because she was definitely trying to be mean but then tried to pretend she wasn’t.

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