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Husband Gets The Silent Treatment After Partner Finds Out The Dinner He Ate Was Vegan
Husband Gets The Silent Treatment After Partner Finds Out The Dinner He Ate Was Vegan
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Husband Gets The Silent Treatment After Partner Finds Out The Dinner He Ate Was Vegan

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We have a lot of choices in what we can eat nowadays. All sorts of diets are becoming more and more popular, from paleo to carnivore. It’s no wonder, then, that people are gradually becoming more selective about their diets, putting in a great deal of effort to be sure what they put into their body.

With this in mind, we’ll be talking about a man who is very particular about his meat-eating habits, becoming extremely upset after he was given a delicious, albeit vegan, sandwich.

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    A man took it online to figure out whether he was a jerk for “trying to make his husband vegan” by making him a sandwich with imitation pulled pork

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    They usually cook for themselves, but it was the one occasion where the poster tried making a fancy dinner

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    He made some vegan sandwiches and invited his husband, who lapped them up, even complimenting the poster on how good they were

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    But when the partner found out that the pulled pork wasn’t real, he flipped, refusing to talk with his husband for hours

    If you’ve ever had roommates or even cooked for your family members, you know how difficult it is coordinating a meal so everyone enjoys it. One person doesn’t like mushrooms, the other onions, and someone’s watching their diet… 

    It’s difficult not to give into temptation of simply making chicken nuggets or a freezer pizza in these cases.

    I tip my hats to all stay-at-home moms and dads who make sure their kids and spouses have something to eat when they come home from school and work, because that really is a Tour de France in culinary endurance.

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    If you’re a fan of these kinds of stories, you’ve probably heard more than once that couples get into rows specifically because of these kinds of reasons. Eating habits may seem like a non-issue at the start, but if you need the classic 3 meals per day to stay bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, you can begin to see that cooking together makes life much easier. 

    Luckily enough, the couple from the original poster’s (OP) story has that sorted. Since they work different hours, they cook for themselves. Shared meals are very sporadic and occasional, but with one of them being a meat-eater and the other vegan – it works. 

    The OP would even be willing to cook something with meat in it, despite the fact that he’d rather avoid handling it. In my opinion, that’s an expression of true love, if ever there was one.

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    Considering all that, it’s quite sad that jackfruit in the style of pulled pork would create a conflict as big as the one in OP’s text. So far there has been no update to the story, so we’re unsure if they’ve worked through it, but fingers crossed!

    I don’t like getting all armchair psychologist at the best of times, but perhaps this conflict is the partner lashing out at OP for something else? Maybe he’s gotten fed up making his own meals or the poster’s vegan cooking, could be anything. Could also be nothing, so take that with a grain of salt.

    Perhaps all of this talk of imitation meats has got you interested in healthier alternatives to red meats, and let me tell you, there are so many options for you to try out. 

    First of all, according to OP and the internet, BBQ jackfruit pulled pork is a very convincing and delicious alternative to the real deal, so that’s one thing to try.

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    Tofu is another thing to try. Don’t be wrong, it won’t really taste like meat. It’s still gonna be tofu, but it absorbs spices and aromas very well, plus it’s a fairly good source of protein.

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    If you’re looking for that meaty taste and texture, some people swear up and down that seitan is the thing. It’s made from wheat in a way that removes the starch, so you’re left with something that has a meaty texture and takes on flavor very well. It’s also quite dense in protein, if that’s what you’re looking for.

    Your best bet is buying it pre-made, but you can also make it yourself, if you’re feeling in a culinary mood.

    Don’t be afraid to experiment and try new things! I’d certainly agree that meat tastes great, but if you’re a self proclaimed “meativore”, all you’re doing is missing out on far too many tastes, textures, and experiences. 

    Bored Panda also reached out to an expert in vegan cooking to hear her perspective and get some tips for all the up-and-coming vegans out there

    In order to get hear a fresh perspective and land some bonafide delicious recipes to boot, Bored Panda reached out to Sam Turnbull, a vegan recipe blogger, and 3-time best-selling cookbook author. Sam runs her website – It Doesn’t Taste Like Chicken – full of attractive and vegan recipes to satisfy any and every craving you may have. 

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    Sam has gone on a really amazing and frankly inspiring culinary journey of going from an avid meat eater to a reluctant vegan to where she is now. You can read all of it in depth on her about page.

    For a start, we asked Sam what she thought about the situation at hand, and this is what she had to say:

    “Personally, I think the husband overreacted. Their partner made them a lovely meal and they enjoyed it. What’s the problem? Thank them for making such a lovely meal. If the husband wants to cook the next meal, they can cook whatever they want. Just as no one should (or can be) forced to be vegan, no one should be forced to cook a meal they don’t want to prepare. So if the partner wants to cook vegan one night then they should do that. If the husband wants to cook the next night, they can cook whatever it is they want to eat.”

    For anyone that’s also a reluctant vegan or struggling to bring something to various parties with a non-vegan crowd, Sam has that worked out to a T.

    “When I first went vegan (over 10 years ago), many people didn’t even know what vegan meant or how to pronounce the word, so some family members were a bit hesitant to try my food. But when they realized my dishes were made up of all the same ingredients they already consume—vegetables, fruits, grains, legumes, nuts, seeds, and spices—they became interested to try my dishes. Now, anytime I make a meal, everyone is eager to try it, and usually loves it. There are no complaints, just a lot of compliments! As long as the dishes are tasty and satisfying, everyone is happy. Now as a 3 x bestselling vegan cookbook author, my dishes are often the star of the show, and everyone wants to taste my latest creation. I also love when my non-vegan friends and family make special vegan dishes to share with me, it really makes you feel loved and cared for.”

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    Finally, in a similar vein to me, but with much more experience and, most importantly – taste, Sam gives suggestions for recipes that are worth trying out.

    “Whenever I’m serving non-vegan friends, I love making a huge taco spread. Everybody loves tacos! Put out dishes of all your favorite taco fillings, and then everyone can pick and choose the toppings they like. It’s always a hit! Try my Tofu Taco Crumbles and Jackfruit Tacos. And for dessert, try my 10 minute Vegan Lemon Curd which is fantastic on top of homemade vanilla cashew ice cream. Learn my technique to make ice cream in a blender here.”

    For the cherry on top, Sam Turnbull shares some insides about her upcoming cookbook:

    “I believe that food is all about balancing flavor and texture such as crispy, salty, fatty, silky, chewy, sweet, and sour… if you make food that satisfies those cravings, everyone will love it (vegan or not). That’s why I wrote my latest cookbook Craving Vegan which is hitting shelves October 24, 2023. The book is divided into cravings so whether you’ve got a hankering for something eggy, carby, cheesy, creamy, crunchy, spicy, meaty, chocolatey, or sugary, I’ve got recipes that will satisfy your cravings the plant-based way.”

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    So, once again, if you’re attempting to go down the vegan road or would simply like to spice up your repertoire with healthy, nutritious, and plant-based dishes, be sure to visit Sam’s website or check out her book!

    The poster’s story has collected over 16k upvotes, with a whopping 12k comments. The commenters, many of whom were meat eaters, all said that they simply can’t comprehend the poster’s husband, who decided to flip out only after eating the finger-licking good sandwich. Because of this, the community judged him to be the jerk, absolving OP.

    Share your own thoughts about this story in the comments!

    The community judged the husband who got upset at the sandwiches to be the true jerk of the day

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    Squirrelly Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a vegan offers me food, I automatically assume it's vegan. I mean, why wouldn't it be?

    Donkey boi
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was a saying where I grew up, 'If you spend time with squirrels, expect acorns for dinner'. Wasn't intended for this purpose, but hey, if the hat fits...

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    Donkey boi
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty sure something else is going on with the hubby that's not related to the food. You don't react to something you enjoyed like that, regardless of your personal stances on things. OP said he was stressed about work...? I'm a meat lover, and I despise Jackfruit, so if I ate it and enjoyed it (even if you lied to me and told me it was meat beforehand), I would be surprised, impressed, and even more complimentary, like any reasonable human being would.

    Shark Lady
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder if he has any militant meat eaters in his life somewhere, maybe at work, that have been in his ear about how all vegans want everyone to give up meat; and since he is married to one he will be the first one to be made to change his diet etc. Just reading the post, it doesn't sound like he had a reason to react so out of character just because he ate one vegan friendly meal.

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    arthbach
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The non-cooking partner sounds like they had a really tough day, and instead of accepting the meal they interpreted it as an attempt to change them. The husbands need to sit down and talk. It's perfectly reasonable for a vegan to make vegan food, and if others want to eat the food, that's great. It doesn't make them vegan, and it isn't even an attempt to 'turn them'. It's just good food. If the meat-eating husband wants to eat meat, that's fine, but it's not fine to expect the vegan husband to be making meat-based meals. ... Just accept the tasty food, thank the cook, and eat.

    arthbach
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My family aren't vegan, I'm not vegan, but we eat vegan meals about twice a week, and a vegetarian one about once a week. My family are more than happy to eat good food, and to try out new recipes.

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    Frederick
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a HEFTY meat lover, what is his problem??? I'd be over the moon for my partner to make me delicious food, vegan or not, as long as they're not forcing it on me, which he clearly isn't. Why is it just because I won't become vegan and love meat that suddenly i'm supposed to avoid vegan food like a plague? Eating vegan food is not gonna hurt you and you can still eat meat. Making you something vegan doesn't mean she's trying to convert you, you weirdo-

    Monday
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly....eating one vegan meal doesn't make someone a vegan. Delicious food is delicious food regardless of what's in it for us non-restrictive diet folks.

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    Melany Van Every
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not vegan, but I've eaten a few vegan dishes. When prepared properly they can be quite tasty. The husband is an asshat.

    Almost sunny
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely, vegan and vegetarian food can be super tasty. Husband needs to calm down. Maybe he's pissed off that he takes pride in not being a vegan and he really enjoyed the sandwich, so that's made him angry.

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    Phobrek
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Husband eats Oreo cookie, angrily turns to package of Oreos, "WTF YOU TRYING TO TURN ME VEGAN?!", flips table

    Mysteria
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oreo’s aren’t vegan tho they have milk in the cream 💀 EDIT: Still funny tho EDIT 2: Today I learned that’s false lmao

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    Stephanie
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is silly. I don't pretend to be vegan or even vegetarian, but I will eat meat free sometimes. My bf is Jewish so I do eat kosher with him during the high holidays. He never expects me to but I do it because it's fun. Sounds like that guy needs to broaden his horizons a bit and try new things

    Eatinbritches
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The older I get, the more I think it's normal for guys in their early to mid 20's to act out like that. So full of p**s and vinegar at that age, and very likely getting "opinions" from somewhere. By and large this was a response of immaturity. If OP had pretended it was meat that would've been a bit of a d**k move, but that wasn't an issue evidently.

    Lucille 2
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP’s husband is being ridiculous. If he made his husband, say, oatmeal and fruit for breakfast, would hubby have the same angry reaction just because it’s vegan? Lots of food is made or grown without animal products in it. My last burger-themed restaurant even used vegan gravy just so we had an option for vegans and vegetarians (you could NOT tell the difference, it was surprisingly delicious gravy and we usually didn’t tell anyone it was veg unless they asked - because it truly doesn’t matter, if you‘ve chosen to be an omnivore you can eat it just fine.)

    zovjraar me
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sounds like he's with a man-baby.

    Say What
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He thinks everyone who's ever eaten a salad is vegan? Lol

    Almost sunny
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Husbands pissed off that he really enjoyed the sandwich I reckon.

    Katie Lutesinger
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not vegetarian but I'll happily go to a vegetarian restaurant with my dad who is. Sounds to me like the husband blew up over something utterly unimportant because he's massively stressed out about something unrelated. Like the time when I had been feeling miserable for days but didn't actually start crying until I burned my finger on a cup of tea. The minor owwie was just the last little thing which pushed me over the edge.

    Agfox
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like to know what I'm eating so I would have asked in advance, although I think OP should have mentioned it was jackfruit before they started eating given his husband seemingly expected something meat based. Also, I want to know how you can make jackfruit, which has a definite sweet, fruity flavour, taste like pork. I'm assuming it's due to added herbs, spices or whatever else OP added to the mix

    Fat Harry
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had pulled jackfruit in a pastry and honestly I can't say if I'd have known it wasn't pork. The texture is about right and if it's cooked in something quite saucy I can see how the flavour might not be a giveaway.

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    Vira
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a family member like this. He will lose his fking mind if you feed him something that he thinks has meat in it, but it doesn't. I make fried spicy spring rolls, that everyone seems to love because they request them, but they don't have meat. For some reason, this made him lose his sh*t when he found out. Full blown toddler tantrum. He's honestly a massive ahole, normally, but really it was as if we had informed him he was to be castrated. Some people feel like eating non meat foods threatens their masculinity, somehow. As if you can't both eat meat and also enjoy vegan food.

    Vira
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Side note: I now want jackfruit sandwiches. Yum!

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    Darth Kittius
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Eating a vegan meal doesn't mean that you have to become vegan. I eat pasta all the time and that doesn't make me Italian.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, please - your husband sounds incredibly immature. He ate a sandwich he enjoyed, going so far as to compliment you on it, and THEN freaked out when he found out it was vegan? WTF? I used to host family dinners about once a month. Sis & her family are vegan. OK. I'd make my amazing spaghetti bolognese, but instead of putting meat into the sauce, I just served Italian sausages on the side. We also loved "make your own" Greek salads. A huge bowl of greens with everything else on the side: salami, feta, olives, red onions, cucumbers, garbanzo beans, etc. Nobody ever complained & nobody ever went home hungry.

    Nitka Tsar
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband is a big meat eater. He could eat meat every day in huge portions. He can even eat only meat. But he still eats salads. That does not make him a vegan.

    Pyla
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What is with the fragility of people who can't try even a different kind of food?

    Ponyo (they/them)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i had chinese food last week and i'm still not chinese. if someone gives me chinese food, i don't assume that they are trying to force me into their culture. and if i'm eating noodles and the person who made them said they used a chinese recipe, i wouldn't accuse them of forcing me to become chinese.

    Marleina Hershberg
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is NOTHING WRONG with a meat eater enjoying a vegan dish from time to time, if he is so against it like this, you may want to rethink spending your life with him.

    DC
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I often cook for several people. Always, it's completely vegan, as I'm very strict about it, and I invite people - I don't catch them or hold them hostage. I've never had any complaints, nobody had to leave hungry or disappointed, because they all know what they're up to. ONE meal and he goes off like that? Sure that there's no other issue that needs to be solved...?

    Eledore Massis
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You eat, it is tasty, you ask what it in it, you remember for next time. Or it isn't, and you ask to avoid it next time. That is broadening your culinary horizons. If there is meat in it, it is nothing more them a ingredient.. I personally don't like "meat replacements" but anything else is ok, vegetarian, vegan. Just enjoy the foods you enjoy. F**k the opinions.

    Madster
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If he can't tell the difference then what does it matter?

    Amelia Jade
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Our family isn't vegan at all and we try stuff like this all the time. It's not a big deal. What's wrong finding alternatives just to change it up a bit? My question is why he assumed it was meat, knowing his partner is vegan. Did he think she was earing pork?

    Shadow
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA umm have you ever cooked pasta with plain marinara sauce and a green salad? Maybe with bread? THAT'S vegan!! Jeez! Cheese pizza, my point there are tons of foods he eats on a regular basis, chips and salsa, beer, etc that qualify as vegan! He has an issue, not you. He needs to come to terms or start cooking every meal and accommodate you! If, and I am serious, IF you want a long, happy marriage, Get this under control and out of the way now. Good luck.

    My “in my head” Voice
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had tamales made with jackfruit. They were delicious! I'm a confirmed carnivore, but I'd definitely eat them again!

    Wheely
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not vegan, but if it tasted nice I wouldn't care. I'm aware that care has to be taken with allergies, but since they're married I'm sure he would know of any. NTA.

    Pandapoo
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m not vegan, but eat and prepare meals that don’t contain meat. I think she probably should have mentioned something beforehand, like “Hey, I’m trying this new recipe…do you want to try it?” and let him decide whether he wants to or not. When I tell my husband I’m making veggie lasagna, he knows there won’t be meat in it.

    Marleina Hershberg
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not a dang thing wrong with a meat eater having a delicious alternative from time to time!! And the silent treatment? He is a child stuck inside an adult's body, and he either needs to see a psychotherapist or you definitely should get out of this marriage.

    Royal Stray
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't really think anyone is an AH here I think OP's husband is just stressed out from work and assumed that it was meat, not thinking anything about it, and then feeling tricked when he found out it wasn't. He shouldn't take it out on OP but I don't think it's about the sandwich in this case. To solve this potential issue in the future tell him what's in the food before he eats it, but OP is not in the wrong

    Almost sunny
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I literally just read about jackfruit pulled pork substitute like earlier today and wanted to try it. Guy needs to chill out, I love meat and some vegan food sounds delicious.

    Alexandra Grey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The husband's reaction is ridiculous. Both my boyfriend and I are meat eaters, but I often make vegan recipes because vegan food is fantastic and I enjoy it. My boyfriend has never complained, and he's often enjoyed the meals himself. Just because we eat meat on a regular basis doesn't mean that we can't try vegan food or enjoy it. Hubby here needs to get a grip.

    Casey McAlister
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. You don't turn into a vegan just because you sometimes eat vegan food. If you know that your husband is a vegan, why on earth would you be surprised that they cooked something vegan? You are it and you liked it, what are you whining about?

    whiterabbit
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't see this happening in an otherwise heathly marriage, I imagine there was some buildup to this situation.

    Scrolling Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many red flags were missed. I feel for OP. 20-30 years down the line they'll be asking themselves how they ever thought this guy wasn't abusive.

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    Marnie
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "meat-inclusive meal" is non-sensical. Try to parse that out, knowing what the word "inclusive" means. It doesn't work.

    Lace Neil
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would only be upset if I was served tofu without being told as I am severely intolerant to it.

    Scrolling Panda
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    2 years ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    Under these circumstances, your comment is extremely random, as literally none of those conditions exist in this post.

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    Janet Howe
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not really the AH. He'll get over it. I think husband was more embarrassed than angry. What did he think it was before OP told him it was vegan? I've seen both staunch meat eaters and staunch vegans. Nobody likes to be fooled. Husband may feel like he was blindsided. There's a problem there that may not have anything to do with the meal. So if you'd like to try offering him a vegan meal again, you better tell him first.

    Sharon Ingram
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why if the meal is meatless does it HAVE to be labeled vegan? There are many MANY meatless meals we eat every day! Salad, beans, tortillas, quesadillas, so many options that are meatless. Why do they have to be called vegan? My mom grew up in a time where meat was served one day a week. I myself prepare meals during the week that are meatless. Seems to me the label is the issue.

    Nate M
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Has BP really just become a place where random negative stories are posted and random grumpy strangers discuss them? Bored indeed....

    Dawnieangel76
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have been upset because the substitute was jackfruit. I can't deal with the texture. If it had been beans or any other substitute, I wouldn't have minded at all.

    zena bena
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rule for crying out loud what are you both 10 years old you could have just said to him hey I tried a new Vegas recipe you want to try it and he could have tried it without having a temper tantrum like both of you are immature there's people out there died of cancer and you're having a fight over stupid Jackfruit or pulled pork give me a break

    Mysteria
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He’s not a waiter at Olive Garden. Unless he was serving a group where someone might have an allergy or something he probably won’t describe everything that went into the food.

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    Jessica Bertram
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i have a different take, if i may. i was starting a weight loss journey, and my friend that i was staying with (i was in my hometown for 6 weeks to help my mom) is gluten free. occasionally. so when i told her that i have no intention of going gluten free, or to religiously count calories, she ignored me. she took a beer out of my hand because it had gluten in it. I had/have disordered eating, and having someone try to manage my food is very very stressful. I have zero problem with buying ingredients for her gluten-free cooking, i will eat it with gusto and clean up after. but being told what i can or cannot eat is a bridge too far. i understand the science emerging around gluten sensitivity; i am not gluten sensitive. When i explained to her that the gluten content of each food, every conversations extolling virtues of gluten-free lifestyle, all of that will make me feel shame around food, she fought back, saying she was doing it for me. I have lost 43 pounds, nearly all of that...

    Jessica Bertram
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    since returning to my hometown. i don't need shame as a side serving to my food, and my nutrition centered therapist agrees. Point is, if OP constantly yaps about veganism, it can build resentment in those around them.

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    Mary Lou
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I guess that´s the issue behind his anger here. Not saying the partner is 100% in the right, but I get a feeling it was kind of "gotcha, I got you thinking you eat meat and you didn´t realize it´s vegan. see?" from her (like I bet she very deliberately was vague and had him keep on believing it was meat. Coming home from a hard day, being shown a "surprise dinner" to lighten up the mood, to then realize it was basically a set up for a gotcha situation - I kind of get it. Also: OP asking if he is TA for MAKING a vegan meal instead of for setting him up about what he ate (being intentionally vague) is also a bit of an AH move...

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    Gwyn
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dunno, I can kind of see how the husband could think he was being tricked. He likely had no idea you could make something resembling pulled pork from vegan ingredients. And the author probably had a fair idea that the husband would assume it was meat. I don't see why the author didn't just say, hey I tried this cool looking recipe for vegan pork would you try it for me? Isn't that what you do when you are excited about trying a new recipe-talk about it? Instead he didn't even mention it. I don't think the author is being quite entirely truthful about his intentions here. There's a bit of acting innocent going on. I can see the husband being upset at the deception much more than it being about the food he ate. Generally anytime you make food for another person it's best to be honest about what's in it.

    Mysteria
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So the OP should act like an Olive Garden waiter and describe every detail of the meal under 15 seconds when asked what’s in it? Or perhaps maybe the husband couldn’t be such an asśhole. But sure it’s the OP’s responsibility.

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    Scrolling Panda
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    2 years ago

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    Your husband has serious control issues. He also owes you a huge apology. He isn't the victim here-YOU are. Your partner just lashed out you and is now being abusive because you had the audacity to cook something nice for him to eat. That's the lay of the land. I'd tell him he was out of line for treating you that way and that until he shapes up and apologizes, he won't be getting food of any kind from you. Your guy has anger issues against an entire demographic of people and is taking it out on you and he needs to get his head on straight and not be an A$$ to his wife.

    Lee
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are very homophobic, the OP clearly states they are both Male(M).

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    Carmine Santucci
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    The real issue isn't the lack of meat, the real issue is that he felt tricked, disrespected or misled. It's a trust issue. Omitting or misleading is still trickery and lying. How would you feel if it were reversed and he was able to get you to eat meat? Admit, you purposely didn't tell him it was vegan. He didn't ask if it was meat because he just assumed it was because he didn't expect you to trick him. It's all about respect and honesty. He interpreted it as "Haha, I tricked you, See how silly you are? Just made you look stupid".The faux meat us not the real issue.

    Mysteria
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bro that’s different! OP’s husband can eat a vegan meal just fine. OP cannot eat meat as it goes against his beliefs!

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    Maja Tadic
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    Of course she's NTA! The only AH here is her immature husband. He should learn when someone make dinner for him he should be grateful. Isn't that something his parents should have teach him? Something else is wrong here. The poor girl obviously married spoiled mom's boy and life with him will be hard. In her place I would think twice if I'm ready to share life with such man. I'm not saying she should divorce but have a conversation with him about the incident. She should tell him his behavior is unacceptable and ask what actually caused it. One vegan meal certainly not!

    Lee
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey guys, I found the homophobe, their name is Maja Tadic

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    Zachary Hebert
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    YATA. You say you didn’t lie. You picked and chose how you introduced him to it and didn’t allow him to make his own decision. People on here are going to blame him and make it out to look like he has anger issues, or say “it’s just food”, “it’s not a big deal”, “it’s a white lie”. None of this is true. You started off stating you accept him and his decisions to eat meat and he accepts your to not. Then you insult his character by deceiving him and trying to come off like it was innocent and you are the victim. If you want him to try vegan, offer it to him and let him decide. Don’t trick him. I would have walked out too. YATA

    Mysteria
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the s**t? When did OP ever lie. He didn’t say “Here’s your pulled pork sandwich. Oop haha tricked you it was vegan LOL!”

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    Michael Wilmer
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    Have a glass of milk. Wait. Despite the fact calfs drink milk, yet you wont??? Really????.vegans are hypocrites. Bet you have a leather belt

    Scrolling Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dude, that lacked logic so hard it was almost hard to tell it wasn't sarcasm.....like, the level of sheer willful ignorance and flat out stupidity necessary to make that statement is, in itself, impressive.

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    Lizzie Lola
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    She took his vegan virginity! 🤣

    Squirrelly Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a vegan offers me food, I automatically assume it's vegan. I mean, why wouldn't it be?

    Donkey boi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was a saying where I grew up, 'If you spend time with squirrels, expect acorns for dinner'. Wasn't intended for this purpose, but hey, if the hat fits...

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    Donkey boi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty sure something else is going on with the hubby that's not related to the food. You don't react to something you enjoyed like that, regardless of your personal stances on things. OP said he was stressed about work...? I'm a meat lover, and I despise Jackfruit, so if I ate it and enjoyed it (even if you lied to me and told me it was meat beforehand), I would be surprised, impressed, and even more complimentary, like any reasonable human being would.

    Shark Lady
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder if he has any militant meat eaters in his life somewhere, maybe at work, that have been in his ear about how all vegans want everyone to give up meat; and since he is married to one he will be the first one to be made to change his diet etc. Just reading the post, it doesn't sound like he had a reason to react so out of character just because he ate one vegan friendly meal.

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    arthbach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The non-cooking partner sounds like they had a really tough day, and instead of accepting the meal they interpreted it as an attempt to change them. The husbands need to sit down and talk. It's perfectly reasonable for a vegan to make vegan food, and if others want to eat the food, that's great. It doesn't make them vegan, and it isn't even an attempt to 'turn them'. It's just good food. If the meat-eating husband wants to eat meat, that's fine, but it's not fine to expect the vegan husband to be making meat-based meals. ... Just accept the tasty food, thank the cook, and eat.

    arthbach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My family aren't vegan, I'm not vegan, but we eat vegan meals about twice a week, and a vegetarian one about once a week. My family are more than happy to eat good food, and to try out new recipes.

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    Frederick
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a HEFTY meat lover, what is his problem??? I'd be over the moon for my partner to make me delicious food, vegan or not, as long as they're not forcing it on me, which he clearly isn't. Why is it just because I won't become vegan and love meat that suddenly i'm supposed to avoid vegan food like a plague? Eating vegan food is not gonna hurt you and you can still eat meat. Making you something vegan doesn't mean she's trying to convert you, you weirdo-

    Monday
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly....eating one vegan meal doesn't make someone a vegan. Delicious food is delicious food regardless of what's in it for us non-restrictive diet folks.

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    Melany Van Every
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not vegan, but I've eaten a few vegan dishes. When prepared properly they can be quite tasty. The husband is an asshat.

    Almost sunny
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely, vegan and vegetarian food can be super tasty. Husband needs to calm down. Maybe he's pissed off that he takes pride in not being a vegan and he really enjoyed the sandwich, so that's made him angry.

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    Phobrek
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Husband eats Oreo cookie, angrily turns to package of Oreos, "WTF YOU TRYING TO TURN ME VEGAN?!", flips table

    Mysteria
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oreo’s aren’t vegan tho they have milk in the cream 💀 EDIT: Still funny tho EDIT 2: Today I learned that’s false lmao

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    Stephanie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is silly. I don't pretend to be vegan or even vegetarian, but I will eat meat free sometimes. My bf is Jewish so I do eat kosher with him during the high holidays. He never expects me to but I do it because it's fun. Sounds like that guy needs to broaden his horizons a bit and try new things

    Eatinbritches
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The older I get, the more I think it's normal for guys in their early to mid 20's to act out like that. So full of p**s and vinegar at that age, and very likely getting "opinions" from somewhere. By and large this was a response of immaturity. If OP had pretended it was meat that would've been a bit of a d**k move, but that wasn't an issue evidently.

    Lucille 2
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP’s husband is being ridiculous. If he made his husband, say, oatmeal and fruit for breakfast, would hubby have the same angry reaction just because it’s vegan? Lots of food is made or grown without animal products in it. My last burger-themed restaurant even used vegan gravy just so we had an option for vegans and vegetarians (you could NOT tell the difference, it was surprisingly delicious gravy and we usually didn’t tell anyone it was veg unless they asked - because it truly doesn’t matter, if you‘ve chosen to be an omnivore you can eat it just fine.)

    zovjraar me
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sounds like he's with a man-baby.

    Say What
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He thinks everyone who's ever eaten a salad is vegan? Lol

    Almost sunny
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Husbands pissed off that he really enjoyed the sandwich I reckon.

    Katie Lutesinger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not vegetarian but I'll happily go to a vegetarian restaurant with my dad who is. Sounds to me like the husband blew up over something utterly unimportant because he's massively stressed out about something unrelated. Like the time when I had been feeling miserable for days but didn't actually start crying until I burned my finger on a cup of tea. The minor owwie was just the last little thing which pushed me over the edge.

    Agfox
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like to know what I'm eating so I would have asked in advance, although I think OP should have mentioned it was jackfruit before they started eating given his husband seemingly expected something meat based. Also, I want to know how you can make jackfruit, which has a definite sweet, fruity flavour, taste like pork. I'm assuming it's due to added herbs, spices or whatever else OP added to the mix

    Fat Harry
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had pulled jackfruit in a pastry and honestly I can't say if I'd have known it wasn't pork. The texture is about right and if it's cooked in something quite saucy I can see how the flavour might not be a giveaway.

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    Vira
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a family member like this. He will lose his fking mind if you feed him something that he thinks has meat in it, but it doesn't. I make fried spicy spring rolls, that everyone seems to love because they request them, but they don't have meat. For some reason, this made him lose his sh*t when he found out. Full blown toddler tantrum. He's honestly a massive ahole, normally, but really it was as if we had informed him he was to be castrated. Some people feel like eating non meat foods threatens their masculinity, somehow. As if you can't both eat meat and also enjoy vegan food.

    Vira
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Side note: I now want jackfruit sandwiches. Yum!

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    Darth Kittius
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Eating a vegan meal doesn't mean that you have to become vegan. I eat pasta all the time and that doesn't make me Italian.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, please - your husband sounds incredibly immature. He ate a sandwich he enjoyed, going so far as to compliment you on it, and THEN freaked out when he found out it was vegan? WTF? I used to host family dinners about once a month. Sis & her family are vegan. OK. I'd make my amazing spaghetti bolognese, but instead of putting meat into the sauce, I just served Italian sausages on the side. We also loved "make your own" Greek salads. A huge bowl of greens with everything else on the side: salami, feta, olives, red onions, cucumbers, garbanzo beans, etc. Nobody ever complained & nobody ever went home hungry.

    Nitka Tsar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband is a big meat eater. He could eat meat every day in huge portions. He can even eat only meat. But he still eats salads. That does not make him a vegan.

    Pyla
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What is with the fragility of people who can't try even a different kind of food?

    Ponyo (they/them)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i had chinese food last week and i'm still not chinese. if someone gives me chinese food, i don't assume that they are trying to force me into their culture. and if i'm eating noodles and the person who made them said they used a chinese recipe, i wouldn't accuse them of forcing me to become chinese.

    Marleina Hershberg
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is NOTHING WRONG with a meat eater enjoying a vegan dish from time to time, if he is so against it like this, you may want to rethink spending your life with him.

    DC
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I often cook for several people. Always, it's completely vegan, as I'm very strict about it, and I invite people - I don't catch them or hold them hostage. I've never had any complaints, nobody had to leave hungry or disappointed, because they all know what they're up to. ONE meal and he goes off like that? Sure that there's no other issue that needs to be solved...?

    Eledore Massis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You eat, it is tasty, you ask what it in it, you remember for next time. Or it isn't, and you ask to avoid it next time. That is broadening your culinary horizons. If there is meat in it, it is nothing more them a ingredient.. I personally don't like "meat replacements" but anything else is ok, vegetarian, vegan. Just enjoy the foods you enjoy. F**k the opinions.

    Madster
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If he can't tell the difference then what does it matter?

    Amelia Jade
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Our family isn't vegan at all and we try stuff like this all the time. It's not a big deal. What's wrong finding alternatives just to change it up a bit? My question is why he assumed it was meat, knowing his partner is vegan. Did he think she was earing pork?

    Shadow
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA umm have you ever cooked pasta with plain marinara sauce and a green salad? Maybe with bread? THAT'S vegan!! Jeez! Cheese pizza, my point there are tons of foods he eats on a regular basis, chips and salsa, beer, etc that qualify as vegan! He has an issue, not you. He needs to come to terms or start cooking every meal and accommodate you! If, and I am serious, IF you want a long, happy marriage, Get this under control and out of the way now. Good luck.

    My “in my head” Voice
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had tamales made with jackfruit. They were delicious! I'm a confirmed carnivore, but I'd definitely eat them again!

    Wheely
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not vegan, but if it tasted nice I wouldn't care. I'm aware that care has to be taken with allergies, but since they're married I'm sure he would know of any. NTA.

    Pandapoo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m not vegan, but eat and prepare meals that don’t contain meat. I think she probably should have mentioned something beforehand, like “Hey, I’m trying this new recipe…do you want to try it?” and let him decide whether he wants to or not. When I tell my husband I’m making veggie lasagna, he knows there won’t be meat in it.

    Marleina Hershberg
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not a dang thing wrong with a meat eater having a delicious alternative from time to time!! And the silent treatment? He is a child stuck inside an adult's body, and he either needs to see a psychotherapist or you definitely should get out of this marriage.

    Royal Stray
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't really think anyone is an AH here I think OP's husband is just stressed out from work and assumed that it was meat, not thinking anything about it, and then feeling tricked when he found out it wasn't. He shouldn't take it out on OP but I don't think it's about the sandwich in this case. To solve this potential issue in the future tell him what's in the food before he eats it, but OP is not in the wrong

    Almost sunny
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I literally just read about jackfruit pulled pork substitute like earlier today and wanted to try it. Guy needs to chill out, I love meat and some vegan food sounds delicious.

    Alexandra Grey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The husband's reaction is ridiculous. Both my boyfriend and I are meat eaters, but I often make vegan recipes because vegan food is fantastic and I enjoy it. My boyfriend has never complained, and he's often enjoyed the meals himself. Just because we eat meat on a regular basis doesn't mean that we can't try vegan food or enjoy it. Hubby here needs to get a grip.

    Casey McAlister
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. You don't turn into a vegan just because you sometimes eat vegan food. If you know that your husband is a vegan, why on earth would you be surprised that they cooked something vegan? You are it and you liked it, what are you whining about?

    whiterabbit
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't see this happening in an otherwise heathly marriage, I imagine there was some buildup to this situation.

    Scrolling Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many red flags were missed. I feel for OP. 20-30 years down the line they'll be asking themselves how they ever thought this guy wasn't abusive.

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    Marnie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "meat-inclusive meal" is non-sensical. Try to parse that out, knowing what the word "inclusive" means. It doesn't work.

    Lace Neil
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would only be upset if I was served tofu without being told as I am severely intolerant to it.

    Scrolling Panda
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    Under these circumstances, your comment is extremely random, as literally none of those conditions exist in this post.

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    Janet Howe
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not really the AH. He'll get over it. I think husband was more embarrassed than angry. What did he think it was before OP told him it was vegan? I've seen both staunch meat eaters and staunch vegans. Nobody likes to be fooled. Husband may feel like he was blindsided. There's a problem there that may not have anything to do with the meal. So if you'd like to try offering him a vegan meal again, you better tell him first.

    Sharon Ingram
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why if the meal is meatless does it HAVE to be labeled vegan? There are many MANY meatless meals we eat every day! Salad, beans, tortillas, quesadillas, so many options that are meatless. Why do they have to be called vegan? My mom grew up in a time where meat was served one day a week. I myself prepare meals during the week that are meatless. Seems to me the label is the issue.

    Nate M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Has BP really just become a place where random negative stories are posted and random grumpy strangers discuss them? Bored indeed....

    Dawnieangel76
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have been upset because the substitute was jackfruit. I can't deal with the texture. If it had been beans or any other substitute, I wouldn't have minded at all.

    zena bena
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rule for crying out loud what are you both 10 years old you could have just said to him hey I tried a new Vegas recipe you want to try it and he could have tried it without having a temper tantrum like both of you are immature there's people out there died of cancer and you're having a fight over stupid Jackfruit or pulled pork give me a break

    Mysteria
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He’s not a waiter at Olive Garden. Unless he was serving a group where someone might have an allergy or something he probably won’t describe everything that went into the food.

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    Jessica Bertram
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i have a different take, if i may. i was starting a weight loss journey, and my friend that i was staying with (i was in my hometown for 6 weeks to help my mom) is gluten free. occasionally. so when i told her that i have no intention of going gluten free, or to religiously count calories, she ignored me. she took a beer out of my hand because it had gluten in it. I had/have disordered eating, and having someone try to manage my food is very very stressful. I have zero problem with buying ingredients for her gluten-free cooking, i will eat it with gusto and clean up after. but being told what i can or cannot eat is a bridge too far. i understand the science emerging around gluten sensitivity; i am not gluten sensitive. When i explained to her that the gluten content of each food, every conversations extolling virtues of gluten-free lifestyle, all of that will make me feel shame around food, she fought back, saying she was doing it for me. I have lost 43 pounds, nearly all of that...

    Jessica Bertram
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    since returning to my hometown. i don't need shame as a side serving to my food, and my nutrition centered therapist agrees. Point is, if OP constantly yaps about veganism, it can build resentment in those around them.

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    Mary Lou
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I guess that´s the issue behind his anger here. Not saying the partner is 100% in the right, but I get a feeling it was kind of "gotcha, I got you thinking you eat meat and you didn´t realize it´s vegan. see?" from her (like I bet she very deliberately was vague and had him keep on believing it was meat. Coming home from a hard day, being shown a "surprise dinner" to lighten up the mood, to then realize it was basically a set up for a gotcha situation - I kind of get it. Also: OP asking if he is TA for MAKING a vegan meal instead of for setting him up about what he ate (being intentionally vague) is also a bit of an AH move...

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    Gwyn
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dunno, I can kind of see how the husband could think he was being tricked. He likely had no idea you could make something resembling pulled pork from vegan ingredients. And the author probably had a fair idea that the husband would assume it was meat. I don't see why the author didn't just say, hey I tried this cool looking recipe for vegan pork would you try it for me? Isn't that what you do when you are excited about trying a new recipe-talk about it? Instead he didn't even mention it. I don't think the author is being quite entirely truthful about his intentions here. There's a bit of acting innocent going on. I can see the husband being upset at the deception much more than it being about the food he ate. Generally anytime you make food for another person it's best to be honest about what's in it.

    Mysteria
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So the OP should act like an Olive Garden waiter and describe every detail of the meal under 15 seconds when asked what’s in it? Or perhaps maybe the husband couldn’t be such an asśhole. But sure it’s the OP’s responsibility.

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    2 years ago

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    Your husband has serious control issues. He also owes you a huge apology. He isn't the victim here-YOU are. Your partner just lashed out you and is now being abusive because you had the audacity to cook something nice for him to eat. That's the lay of the land. I'd tell him he was out of line for treating you that way and that until he shapes up and apologizes, he won't be getting food of any kind from you. Your guy has anger issues against an entire demographic of people and is taking it out on you and he needs to get his head on straight and not be an A$$ to his wife.

    Lee
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are very homophobic, the OP clearly states they are both Male(M).

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    Carmine Santucci
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    2 years ago (edited)

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    The real issue isn't the lack of meat, the real issue is that he felt tricked, disrespected or misled. It's a trust issue. Omitting or misleading is still trickery and lying. How would you feel if it were reversed and he was able to get you to eat meat? Admit, you purposely didn't tell him it was vegan. He didn't ask if it was meat because he just assumed it was because he didn't expect you to trick him. It's all about respect and honesty. He interpreted it as "Haha, I tricked you, See how silly you are? Just made you look stupid".The faux meat us not the real issue.

    Mysteria
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bro that’s different! OP’s husband can eat a vegan meal just fine. OP cannot eat meat as it goes against his beliefs!

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    Maja Tadic
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    2 years ago

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    Of course she's NTA! The only AH here is her immature husband. He should learn when someone make dinner for him he should be grateful. Isn't that something his parents should have teach him? Something else is wrong here. The poor girl obviously married spoiled mom's boy and life with him will be hard. In her place I would think twice if I'm ready to share life with such man. I'm not saying she should divorce but have a conversation with him about the incident. She should tell him his behavior is unacceptable and ask what actually caused it. One vegan meal certainly not!

    Lee
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey guys, I found the homophobe, their name is Maja Tadic

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    Zachary Hebert
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    2 years ago

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    YATA. You say you didn’t lie. You picked and chose how you introduced him to it and didn’t allow him to make his own decision. People on here are going to blame him and make it out to look like he has anger issues, or say “it’s just food”, “it’s not a big deal”, “it’s a white lie”. None of this is true. You started off stating you accept him and his decisions to eat meat and he accepts your to not. Then you insult his character by deceiving him and trying to come off like it was innocent and you are the victim. If you want him to try vegan, offer it to him and let him decide. Don’t trick him. I would have walked out too. YATA

    Mysteria
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the s**t? When did OP ever lie. He didn’t say “Here’s your pulled pork sandwich. Oop haha tricked you it was vegan LOL!”

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    Michael Wilmer
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    2 years ago

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    Have a glass of milk. Wait. Despite the fact calfs drink milk, yet you wont??? Really????.vegans are hypocrites. Bet you have a leather belt

    Scrolling Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dude, that lacked logic so hard it was almost hard to tell it wasn't sarcasm.....like, the level of sheer willful ignorance and flat out stupidity necessary to make that statement is, in itself, impressive.

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    Lizzie Lola
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    2 years ago

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    She took his vegan virginity! 🤣

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