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Wife Is Lost And Confused After Her Husband Leaves Her And Their Baby 10 Days After Her C-Section To Stay With His Friends
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Wife Is Lost And Confused After Her Husband Leaves Her And Their Baby 10 Days After Her C-Section To Stay With His Friends

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In a way, relationships resemble team sports—in order for it to work, all players have to contribute. It is especially important when the relationship grows into a family.

The user u/LifeAndSuch155 recently opened up to Reddit’s ‘Parenting’ community about being left alone on the court. She said her husband left her and their newborn baby at home just 10 days after her c-section, and went to stay with his friend instead; all because of a fight. Scroll down for the full story in the OP’s own words.

Teamwork in parenting requires lots of patience and good communication skills, which is why it’s not always easy

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This woman was left alone with a newborn just days after her c-section while her husband stayed at a friend’s house

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The OP answered some of the people’s comments and shared more information as well as her views on the situation

She updated the redditors the next day

Caring for a newborn is often challenging, especially after a c-section, which makes help from a partner even more essential

Caring for a newborn is not an easy task, which is why sharing the load with a partner can make a world of difference. Especially after a cesarean section, which requires time to recover. Even though it differs from person to person, it usually takes up to six weeks to get back on your feet after such a surgery.

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According to the National Center for Health Statistics, back in 2021, roughly one third of births in the US were cesarean deliveries. The World Health Organization pointed out that the rates of c-sections have been growing globally over the years.

The OP was ten days post-operation, when the husband left her to take care of the baby on her own. Research on parenting stress revealed that fathers should actively share parenting roles in raising children, as it correlates to warm parenting behavior from the mother. Other data uncovered that over the past decades (1986 to 2015, to be exact), women have taken on more responsibilities of childcare than their male counterparts. However, the latter have become more involved with their kids than they used to be as the time went on.

Expert in developmental psychology, research scientist Jennifer E. Lansford pointed out that, “Fathers are not just helpers for mothers but are important to children in their own right,” as they contribute to their kid’s development in numerous ways. “For example, children with sensitive and supportive fathers have higher levels of social competence and better peer relationships,” Dr. Lansford wrote in Psychology Today. “Children whose fathers provide them with learning materials and speak with them frequently perform better in school and have more advanced language skills.”

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Sharing responsibilities in a relationship is important with or without children

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Teamwork in a relationship is important with or without kids. Sharing such responsibilities as chores, for example, is also necessary to make it work. According to Pew Research Center, more than half of married adults (56%) with and without children agree that tackling housework together is essential for a successful marriage.

Even though some moms and dads deal with their responsibilities like true superheroes, they are only human after all. They get tired, too, and might even experience parental burnout, which is why parents need breaks as well. However, such pauses should be prediscussed rather than spontaneous, as they can lead to somewhat troublesome situations or negative emotions, as the OP’s situation illustrated.

That’s why communication is key when it comes to teamwork in a relationship. It can help create a schedule that would allow both parents to get some rest and take care of their share of the responsibilities. Baby Center pointed out that a schedule is one of the ways to divide childcare and housework duties, in addition to listing your responsibilities as well as your baby’s needs.

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People had lots to say about the situation

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The woman appreciated the support she received from the online community and provided one last update on the events

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hermom504 avatar
WonderWoman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When he came home, it was the honeymoon phase of an abusive event - she is married to an abusive, selfish ashole. She has a cancer stricken child, was given the silent treatment for wanting to park in her garage, and he left her post surgery because it was too hard for him. SHE NEEDS TO GET OUT NOW, things will continually get worse and more dangerous, with fewer honeymoon phases.

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Kate Jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"You'd rather him be here than to stay and do something he regrets" is code for 'you don't want him to abuse you in some way because he can't control his temper'. He needs to take a break but you don't get the same luxury and you're 10 days out of major surgery. Sorry but I would hire a nanny and when he gets angry because that costs a whole lot of money. explain that you needed to hire someone to help take care of the baby because you just got out of the hospital and are in pain from bringing his child into the world- sorry to make things so 'tough' on him. This is absolutely ridiculous. I understand leaving to go for a drive for a few hours just to clear your head. But to leave for days? I'd change the freaking locks. I'd mail him the divorce paperwork along with the alimony and child support/visitation order. This makes me irate. There seriously needs to be some kind of serious repercussions for this. I'm not sure if I'd ever look at my husband the same ever again.

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Ms.GB
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, he sounds like a piece of s**t honestly...incredibly selfish.

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Caroline Nagel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Help! what do the abbreviations STM and EBF mean. Can't find anything that fits in the text.

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The Starsong Princess
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The 10 day mark is when the adrenaline wears off and the sleep deprivation really hits. A big fight isn’t uncommon here. If the husband had gotten a night’s sleep and come back the next day apologetic, I would say this was ok. But this guy took three days to realize he needed to help his wife and family. I don’t think she’s going to stick with I’m much longer.

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Queenie G
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your husband appears to be an immature, narcissistic f****r. He should be ashamed of himself.

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Hales M
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Right like tbh i wouldn't want that around my kid lest they pick up that behaviour.

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Wysteria_Rose
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That was straight up abandonment and pure mental abuse from him. If my husband tried something like that, I would have high doubts about letting him come back at all. That is not only upsetting behavior, it is alarming behavior. I'm glad things seem to be in a better place for her but good lord, she would be better on her own than dealing with that mess.

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Yer a witch
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's single, she just hasn't realized. It's not healthy for her and her kids to stay with someone like that

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BlueEyesWhiteDragon
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If this story is a true representation of her experience she needs to get out. This guy displays a high level of every wicked triad trait: manipulation (machiavellianism), excessive self-importance (narcissism), and lack of empathy (psychopathy). With every fiber of my being I think this guy has the makings of a killer and quite possibly a family annihilator. I don't say this lightly. I know this behavior seems minor compared to a lot of abuse stories, but it's much more insidious and his behavior is so callous, both to his healing wife and crying child as to be noteworthy.

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Aline
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get a new therapist. Natural consequences are the best teachers leaves no agency for the people involved. I have worked in child psychology, and have many contacts who work with adults and this borders on malpractice. Get a new therapist. Natural consequences are for things like, if you forget to bring a raincoat, you get wet. It is never applied to relationships for many reasons including the risk of harm (great) and the timescale to see the effect (long). Don't teach your child it's ok to remain with a partner who treats you like your partner does. Children learn by watching actions much more than llstening to rhetoric. Don't make them grow up watching their mother consent to being treated badly.

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Randy Sanders
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Any man that would abdicate from fatherhood, (assuming the child was his) is not a good man and should be dumped. He will never change.

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WonderWoman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Especially when people give him a place to run from his responsibilities - they are only enabling him.

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Wondering Alice
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Friend of my husband's turned up one evening saying he needed a break from his wife a few days after she got home from hospital with new baby. I told him if he needed a break from her, best thing would be to take the baby so could get some sleep. My husband took him in other room, and while I don't know what was said, it was harsh. Friend left and went to mutual friends house for the night. The wife forgave him, but made him cut ties with his friends. After a bit, that included us. Can't say I blamed her. My husband was sad, but said he was sick of having friends around who were still behaving like kids. Who on earth would let a guy stay at their house 3 days in op's situation?

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DarkViolet
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's good to see that you're doing better. Your husband should be well aware by now of what he's missed, and what he will be missing if he ever pulls that mess again. He was wrong, he knew it at the time, and so did his friends. I hope that marriage counseling will straighten him out; it's far too easy to burn bridges that may never be rebuilt.

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Beatrice Fairchild
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, he's most likely going to continue acting like this in the future. If you read the reddit comments, you will see that this isn't a isolated incident. Honestly, OP has a lot more patience than I would. I have 4 kids, and if my husband tried to pull something like this, he would be kicked out and I'd be filling for divorce.

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Persephone
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My exdid EXACTLY this after I gave birth.. except when I asked him to leave and take a breather (while he wasn't helping anyway), he came right back and assaulted me! He, in his psychopathic mind, thought I was intentionally making our newborn hate him when she would fuss for me to feed her. It's good you are away from him!

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Cyndielouwhoo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope she kicked him out for good! It wouldn't be easy considering the circumstances, but since he's persona non grata anyway...the part where he orders her upstairs because " he doesn't want to look at her face" is disturbing and absolutely proof of an abusive relationship. WTH?!?

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SarahBee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The most hopeful thing she wrote is that she's making an appointment with a marriage counselor. If he refuses to go, bu-bye!

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Mary Rogers
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is really worrisome when a man of that age acts that way. Maybe there is a reason why he is a first time father. There isn't of course anything wrong with waiting to have children (or not having them at all), but people might want to do a little extra vetting when dating a older person who hasn't had kids or long term relationships. It actually sounds like this woman may have been ignoring some red flags here. I am also concerned as to whether he actually believed what he was saying about the baby hating him. If he was joking, that's fine. But some people don't understand what normal childhood behavior is and then take things personally when they shouldn't. This can set the stage for child abuse as the immature parent feels they have to discipline what is actually normal, age-appropriate behavior.

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Anne S.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Surprised she hasn't had the locks changed. Sends her own message...can't trust him when it REALLY counts.

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Carole G.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have no patience for that type of person (47 going on 14). Do not leave! Change locks, pack up his stuff & put it in the garage for him to get. Stand your ground or you'll have a very bumpy road ahead, as will your son. He has shown you who he is & at 47, damn, unbelievable.

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DrBronxx
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This story would make my blood boil at the best of times. However, as father of a 6-week-old baby girl, I cannot describe how livid this makes me. I know it shouldn't matter whether I'm a father or not, but the relatability has increased my anger so much. I cannot image leaving my wife to take care of the baby. And I cannot imagine walking out on my beautiful daughter like that. I can't believe he didn't regret his actions INSTANTLY. This guy has s**t on the privilege of being a father, and has pissed on his responsibilities as a husband. It's admirable that she still wants to work on the marriage, and although I have limited knowledge on their relationship, I'm not sure it's going to work. I'm glad she is sorting out an exit strategy, but it's a real shame that she needs one.

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John Anderson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP sounds like she's doing everything right. She's testing the waters with him but making executable plans to get the Heil out when twatwaffle goes Rouge again. Which I'm betting he will.

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Id row
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I am a STM. I am EBF." Who starts out posts this way? This just HMVC. (had me very confused)

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John Anderson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed! But she's a nurse. My son and daughter, both nurses, are constantly telling me work stories with tons of acronyms. I just nod and smile.

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Vaidotas Remeika
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have not been more infuriated by a post on this site ever before, I wanna curb stomp this guy.

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Zedrapazia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As far as I know, a young baby can be so exhausting that the parents have temporary negative personality changes because it won't let them sleep. Not that there weren't problems in this relationship anyway, but I think it made the emotions cook up even more.

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Bri
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is really complex, at least for me. I hope everything turns out ok for her...

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Nikki Sevven
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't see where the OP needed any advice here. She certainly seems to be a thoughtful, cautious person who takes the time to think things through, and her solution (given the updates) was measured and reasonable.

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Joy W.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't let him back in the house, I wonder how calm she is when THIS is her hormonal and distressed behavior! She's so put together

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Montana Moss
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been married to a narcissist for 37 years. Your husband is a narcissist. The way he speaks to you is telling. The bad behavior won't stop. He'll do something cruel again. And again. And again. Once more is all you should tolerate. But that is more than you deserve to bear, trust me. For the sake of your children, don't let him get away with it. Make him toe the line. OR ELSE. Then move on.

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Bekah
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This sounds like he's a narc. And is now love bombing. You've seen the behavior and he has a track record. Need to have that exit strategy sooner then later. It's eventually going to come to ahead and either you and your children are going to end up 6 ft under or in the hospital when the physical abuse starts. Don't kid yourself, this will end up happening. Get a plan together and get out.

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Joan Finholt
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've read all the comments and the posters comments. Mom has taken care of herself and now has support. Dad knows he screwed up. Friend is no longer a friend. What I like is that Mom is planning for either Dad to grow up & help like a supportive father or for her to file for divorce & leave.. Mom is being extremely thoughtful about this and I find that impressive!!

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Parmeisan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This reminds me of a situation with a cousin of mine. It's not equivalent, and I'm not sure I feel the same way about both but there are definite similarities and I'd like to share. My cousin and his girlfriend (let's say, Nate and Abbey) were very young when she got pregnant. I think she was 19 maybe? He was about the same age. They had decided to make a go of it, but shortly after the baby was born Abbey freaked out. She left Nate with the baby and ran off for about a month. I think she was living with her mom. She said she was too young, too scared, she didn't know if this was the life she wanted. I can't imagine it was easy for Nate, raising a baby alone and not knowing if Abbey would come back, maybe not knowing if he'd take her back if she did. She did go back though, he did take her back, their son is 13 with a younger sister, everybody is happy, and nobody would know to look at them that it almost didn't happen that way. (1/2)

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Parmeisan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thing is, most of my family has never completely forgiven Abbey. I know what she did was terrible but... she went back. She was really, really young, maybe dealing with post-partum depression, certainly overwhelmed and low on sleep... and I think it took a lot of courage to go back. Not everybody in that situation would. I think sometimes you have to look past the mistakes people have made when they manage to turn it around and do the right thing in the end. The woman in this post is right to be taking precautions, especially with the terrible things her husband said to her. But also, a lot of men don't go back. It might yet end up all right for them.

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Eva Sawyer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unpopular opinion - don't issue an ultimatum or dare if them taking you up on it is unacceptable ( this goes for BOTH of you), at the end of the day he is a first time parent, and you are expecting him to have it all together even though he doesn't have the same experiences. Instead of acting like he was stupid because he wasn't parenting the same as you, maybe offer suggestions on bonding or dealing with crying. Is he right to take off for three days, no. But everyone sucks here, and if you don't have the capacity to communicate through disagreements without being s****y to each other then maybe you should get a divorce.

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Jose Antonio
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1 year ago

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Shoshana Sherrington
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People are underestimating how a new baby can be a struggle in your marriage once the initial glow wears off. Obviously he is in the wrong and really messed up. BUT. she totally overreacted to the video thing. A baby will not be harmed by another second crying. He is feeling insecure as a new dad and that's what the video was about, although in general i think sharing videos of your kids is stupid. Op is not a first time parent. Both are super tired and super hyped up on hormones that both get with a new baby and no one is thinking rationally. His reaction when he came home says it all and he's going to regret it for the rest of his life. The counseling is a wonderful idea it will help you learn to cope with this together. Ppl calling him an abuser are really stupid and have tunnel vision

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Solandri
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH (probably) except the baby. OP does not specify how long husband let the baby cry while shooting his video. Just goes on about it for a paragraph. If husband did in fact share it, it was probably only 10-15 seconds. The baby is not going to die from crying for that long. And unlike OP who seems to only want video memories of the baby doing cute things, it sounds like husband wants video memories the baby doing all things baby. Including crying. So OP is an AH (probably) for blowing up at her husband over this relatively short minor infraction when she admits he was otherwise doing a stellar job. (If this was like 5 minutes of him trying to shoot the perfect video, then she is in the clear.). Husband is an AH for abandoning her and baby over it. And both of them are AHs for being children and not having a mature discussion to resolve it before it got to the "get out!" stage.

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Belle Miles
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The acronyms are absurd. Learn how to spell. So we know how old Dad is, how old is Mom? Seems like they are used to speaking to each other that way, and Mom just needs to show how right she is to the world. So, now the whole world can judge your quarrel and what...? Grow up.

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Mrs.Pugh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or idk maybe read the top comment on here? You can go to the actual Reddit post, there may be info on her age there. “…speaking to each other that way…” you mean how he told her to go upstairs so he didn’t have to see her face? That would be unfortunate. “…mom just needs to show how right she is to the world.” What? And your last statement… yes and no. She posted on the internet so people are free to judge, but she posted as a question and is looking for advice. Yes, I agree, the father does need to grow up.

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She’s an AH. He was bending over backwards for her for 10 days and she gets pissed because he wanted to take a video. She overacted, told him to leave and now she owes him a big apology. You don’t get to tell him he knows where the keys are and to leave then be mad about it. Yes, you gad a c section. You are 10 days past, you can also chip in. And yes, I know what I’m talking about as I had 3, last was c section and I lost enough blood that I needed a transfusion. Get over yourself, apologize and get on with your life. Are you really ready to blow up your family and the life of your son over your own over reaction?

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Mrs.Pugh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He left his baby and wife for 4 days because he’s a baby. Why are you excusing his behavior? You sound like the other wife.

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TarrieB
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1 year ago

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Reading the comments when BP post a (possibly) fake reddit post is always humorous, it really highlights the hypocrisy of its readers. A few days ago a post appeared where a man was upset that his wife wouldn't allow him in the delivery room to watch the birth of his child and nearly all the comments towards the man were negative and suggesting it wasn't true or not close to the truth but when you have a woman posting about how crappy her husband is its automatically believed and once again the man is bastardised without a second thought.

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1 year ago

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Yet another man-hating post on BP. Poor guys out there can never get a post about when men do the right thing.

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Mary Rogers
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There have been plenty of BP posts showing men doing the right thing. What are you talking about?

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Rocco MZ
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1 year ago

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She clearly knows she's not the ahole in this situation. People just love airing their life stories to get a pat on the back. The husband's a tool and you don't need a bunch of random strangers to confirm that.

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SarahBee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But it sounds like she did need support and perspective. Sounds like she got it!

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WonderWoman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When he came home, it was the honeymoon phase of an abusive event - she is married to an abusive, selfish ashole. She has a cancer stricken child, was given the silent treatment for wanting to park in her garage, and he left her post surgery because it was too hard for him. SHE NEEDS TO GET OUT NOW, things will continually get worse and more dangerous, with fewer honeymoon phases.

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Kate Jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"You'd rather him be here than to stay and do something he regrets" is code for 'you don't want him to abuse you in some way because he can't control his temper'. He needs to take a break but you don't get the same luxury and you're 10 days out of major surgery. Sorry but I would hire a nanny and when he gets angry because that costs a whole lot of money. explain that you needed to hire someone to help take care of the baby because you just got out of the hospital and are in pain from bringing his child into the world- sorry to make things so 'tough' on him. This is absolutely ridiculous. I understand leaving to go for a drive for a few hours just to clear your head. But to leave for days? I'd change the freaking locks. I'd mail him the divorce paperwork along with the alimony and child support/visitation order. This makes me irate. There seriously needs to be some kind of serious repercussions for this. I'm not sure if I'd ever look at my husband the same ever again.

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Ms.GB
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, he sounds like a piece of s**t honestly...incredibly selfish.

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Caroline Nagel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Help! what do the abbreviations STM and EBF mean. Can't find anything that fits in the text.

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The Starsong Princess
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The 10 day mark is when the adrenaline wears off and the sleep deprivation really hits. A big fight isn’t uncommon here. If the husband had gotten a night’s sleep and come back the next day apologetic, I would say this was ok. But this guy took three days to realize he needed to help his wife and family. I don’t think she’s going to stick with I’m much longer.

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Queenie G
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your husband appears to be an immature, narcissistic f****r. He should be ashamed of himself.

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Hales M
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Right like tbh i wouldn't want that around my kid lest they pick up that behaviour.

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Wysteria_Rose
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That was straight up abandonment and pure mental abuse from him. If my husband tried something like that, I would have high doubts about letting him come back at all. That is not only upsetting behavior, it is alarming behavior. I'm glad things seem to be in a better place for her but good lord, she would be better on her own than dealing with that mess.

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Yer a witch
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's single, she just hasn't realized. It's not healthy for her and her kids to stay with someone like that

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BlueEyesWhiteDragon
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If this story is a true representation of her experience she needs to get out. This guy displays a high level of every wicked triad trait: manipulation (machiavellianism), excessive self-importance (narcissism), and lack of empathy (psychopathy). With every fiber of my being I think this guy has the makings of a killer and quite possibly a family annihilator. I don't say this lightly. I know this behavior seems minor compared to a lot of abuse stories, but it's much more insidious and his behavior is so callous, both to his healing wife and crying child as to be noteworthy.

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Aline
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get a new therapist. Natural consequences are the best teachers leaves no agency for the people involved. I have worked in child psychology, and have many contacts who work with adults and this borders on malpractice. Get a new therapist. Natural consequences are for things like, if you forget to bring a raincoat, you get wet. It is never applied to relationships for many reasons including the risk of harm (great) and the timescale to see the effect (long). Don't teach your child it's ok to remain with a partner who treats you like your partner does. Children learn by watching actions much more than llstening to rhetoric. Don't make them grow up watching their mother consent to being treated badly.

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Randy Sanders
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Any man that would abdicate from fatherhood, (assuming the child was his) is not a good man and should be dumped. He will never change.

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WonderWoman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Especially when people give him a place to run from his responsibilities - they are only enabling him.

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Wondering Alice
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Friend of my husband's turned up one evening saying he needed a break from his wife a few days after she got home from hospital with new baby. I told him if he needed a break from her, best thing would be to take the baby so could get some sleep. My husband took him in other room, and while I don't know what was said, it was harsh. Friend left and went to mutual friends house for the night. The wife forgave him, but made him cut ties with his friends. After a bit, that included us. Can't say I blamed her. My husband was sad, but said he was sick of having friends around who were still behaving like kids. Who on earth would let a guy stay at their house 3 days in op's situation?

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DarkViolet
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's good to see that you're doing better. Your husband should be well aware by now of what he's missed, and what he will be missing if he ever pulls that mess again. He was wrong, he knew it at the time, and so did his friends. I hope that marriage counseling will straighten him out; it's far too easy to burn bridges that may never be rebuilt.

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Beatrice Fairchild
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, he's most likely going to continue acting like this in the future. If you read the reddit comments, you will see that this isn't a isolated incident. Honestly, OP has a lot more patience than I would. I have 4 kids, and if my husband tried to pull something like this, he would be kicked out and I'd be filling for divorce.

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Persephone
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My exdid EXACTLY this after I gave birth.. except when I asked him to leave and take a breather (while he wasn't helping anyway), he came right back and assaulted me! He, in his psychopathic mind, thought I was intentionally making our newborn hate him when she would fuss for me to feed her. It's good you are away from him!

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Cyndielouwhoo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope she kicked him out for good! It wouldn't be easy considering the circumstances, but since he's persona non grata anyway...the part where he orders her upstairs because " he doesn't want to look at her face" is disturbing and absolutely proof of an abusive relationship. WTH?!?

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SarahBee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The most hopeful thing she wrote is that she's making an appointment with a marriage counselor. If he refuses to go, bu-bye!

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Mary Rogers
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is really worrisome when a man of that age acts that way. Maybe there is a reason why he is a first time father. There isn't of course anything wrong with waiting to have children (or not having them at all), but people might want to do a little extra vetting when dating a older person who hasn't had kids or long term relationships. It actually sounds like this woman may have been ignoring some red flags here. I am also concerned as to whether he actually believed what he was saying about the baby hating him. If he was joking, that's fine. But some people don't understand what normal childhood behavior is and then take things personally when they shouldn't. This can set the stage for child abuse as the immature parent feels they have to discipline what is actually normal, age-appropriate behavior.

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Anne S.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Surprised she hasn't had the locks changed. Sends her own message...can't trust him when it REALLY counts.

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Carole G.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have no patience for that type of person (47 going on 14). Do not leave! Change locks, pack up his stuff & put it in the garage for him to get. Stand your ground or you'll have a very bumpy road ahead, as will your son. He has shown you who he is & at 47, damn, unbelievable.

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DrBronxx
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This story would make my blood boil at the best of times. However, as father of a 6-week-old baby girl, I cannot describe how livid this makes me. I know it shouldn't matter whether I'm a father or not, but the relatability has increased my anger so much. I cannot image leaving my wife to take care of the baby. And I cannot imagine walking out on my beautiful daughter like that. I can't believe he didn't regret his actions INSTANTLY. This guy has s**t on the privilege of being a father, and has pissed on his responsibilities as a husband. It's admirable that she still wants to work on the marriage, and although I have limited knowledge on their relationship, I'm not sure it's going to work. I'm glad she is sorting out an exit strategy, but it's a real shame that she needs one.

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John Anderson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP sounds like she's doing everything right. She's testing the waters with him but making executable plans to get the Heil out when twatwaffle goes Rouge again. Which I'm betting he will.

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Id row
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I am a STM. I am EBF." Who starts out posts this way? This just HMVC. (had me very confused)

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John Anderson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed! But she's a nurse. My son and daughter, both nurses, are constantly telling me work stories with tons of acronyms. I just nod and smile.

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Vaidotas Remeika
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have not been more infuriated by a post on this site ever before, I wanna curb stomp this guy.

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Zedrapazia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As far as I know, a young baby can be so exhausting that the parents have temporary negative personality changes because it won't let them sleep. Not that there weren't problems in this relationship anyway, but I think it made the emotions cook up even more.

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Bri
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is really complex, at least for me. I hope everything turns out ok for her...

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Nikki Sevven
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't see where the OP needed any advice here. She certainly seems to be a thoughtful, cautious person who takes the time to think things through, and her solution (given the updates) was measured and reasonable.

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Joy W.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't let him back in the house, I wonder how calm she is when THIS is her hormonal and distressed behavior! She's so put together

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Montana Moss
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been married to a narcissist for 37 years. Your husband is a narcissist. The way he speaks to you is telling. The bad behavior won't stop. He'll do something cruel again. And again. And again. Once more is all you should tolerate. But that is more than you deserve to bear, trust me. For the sake of your children, don't let him get away with it. Make him toe the line. OR ELSE. Then move on.

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Bekah
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This sounds like he's a narc. And is now love bombing. You've seen the behavior and he has a track record. Need to have that exit strategy sooner then later. It's eventually going to come to ahead and either you and your children are going to end up 6 ft under or in the hospital when the physical abuse starts. Don't kid yourself, this will end up happening. Get a plan together and get out.

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Joan Finholt
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've read all the comments and the posters comments. Mom has taken care of herself and now has support. Dad knows he screwed up. Friend is no longer a friend. What I like is that Mom is planning for either Dad to grow up & help like a supportive father or for her to file for divorce & leave.. Mom is being extremely thoughtful about this and I find that impressive!!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This reminds me of a situation with a cousin of mine. It's not equivalent, and I'm not sure I feel the same way about both but there are definite similarities and I'd like to share. My cousin and his girlfriend (let's say, Nate and Abbey) were very young when she got pregnant. I think she was 19 maybe? He was about the same age. They had decided to make a go of it, but shortly after the baby was born Abbey freaked out. She left Nate with the baby and ran off for about a month. I think she was living with her mom. She said she was too young, too scared, she didn't know if this was the life she wanted. I can't imagine it was easy for Nate, raising a baby alone and not knowing if Abbey would come back, maybe not knowing if he'd take her back if she did. She did go back though, he did take her back, their son is 13 with a younger sister, everybody is happy, and nobody would know to look at them that it almost didn't happen that way. (1/2)

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Parmeisan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thing is, most of my family has never completely forgiven Abbey. I know what she did was terrible but... she went back. She was really, really young, maybe dealing with post-partum depression, certainly overwhelmed and low on sleep... and I think it took a lot of courage to go back. Not everybody in that situation would. I think sometimes you have to look past the mistakes people have made when they manage to turn it around and do the right thing in the end. The woman in this post is right to be taking precautions, especially with the terrible things her husband said to her. But also, a lot of men don't go back. It might yet end up all right for them.

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Eva Sawyer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unpopular opinion - don't issue an ultimatum or dare if them taking you up on it is unacceptable ( this goes for BOTH of you), at the end of the day he is a first time parent, and you are expecting him to have it all together even though he doesn't have the same experiences. Instead of acting like he was stupid because he wasn't parenting the same as you, maybe offer suggestions on bonding or dealing with crying. Is he right to take off for three days, no. But everyone sucks here, and if you don't have the capacity to communicate through disagreements without being s****y to each other then maybe you should get a divorce.

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Shoshana Sherrington
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People are underestimating how a new baby can be a struggle in your marriage once the initial glow wears off. Obviously he is in the wrong and really messed up. BUT. she totally overreacted to the video thing. A baby will not be harmed by another second crying. He is feeling insecure as a new dad and that's what the video was about, although in general i think sharing videos of your kids is stupid. Op is not a first time parent. Both are super tired and super hyped up on hormones that both get with a new baby and no one is thinking rationally. His reaction when he came home says it all and he's going to regret it for the rest of his life. The counseling is a wonderful idea it will help you learn to cope with this together. Ppl calling him an abuser are really stupid and have tunnel vision

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Solandri
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH (probably) except the baby. OP does not specify how long husband let the baby cry while shooting his video. Just goes on about it for a paragraph. If husband did in fact share it, it was probably only 10-15 seconds. The baby is not going to die from crying for that long. And unlike OP who seems to only want video memories of the baby doing cute things, it sounds like husband wants video memories the baby doing all things baby. Including crying. So OP is an AH (probably) for blowing up at her husband over this relatively short minor infraction when she admits he was otherwise doing a stellar job. (If this was like 5 minutes of him trying to shoot the perfect video, then she is in the clear.). Husband is an AH for abandoning her and baby over it. And both of them are AHs for being children and not having a mature discussion to resolve it before it got to the "get out!" stage.

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Belle Miles
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The acronyms are absurd. Learn how to spell. So we know how old Dad is, how old is Mom? Seems like they are used to speaking to each other that way, and Mom just needs to show how right she is to the world. So, now the whole world can judge your quarrel and what...? Grow up.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or idk maybe read the top comment on here? You can go to the actual Reddit post, there may be info on her age there. “…speaking to each other that way…” you mean how he told her to go upstairs so he didn’t have to see her face? That would be unfortunate. “…mom just needs to show how right she is to the world.” What? And your last statement… yes and no. She posted on the internet so people are free to judge, but she posted as a question and is looking for advice. Yes, I agree, the father does need to grow up.

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She’s an AH. He was bending over backwards for her for 10 days and she gets pissed because he wanted to take a video. She overacted, told him to leave and now she owes him a big apology. You don’t get to tell him he knows where the keys are and to leave then be mad about it. Yes, you gad a c section. You are 10 days past, you can also chip in. And yes, I know what I’m talking about as I had 3, last was c section and I lost enough blood that I needed a transfusion. Get over yourself, apologize and get on with your life. Are you really ready to blow up your family and the life of your son over your own over reaction?

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Mrs.Pugh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He left his baby and wife for 4 days because he’s a baby. Why are you excusing his behavior? You sound like the other wife.

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TarrieB
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Reading the comments when BP post a (possibly) fake reddit post is always humorous, it really highlights the hypocrisy of its readers. A few days ago a post appeared where a man was upset that his wife wouldn't allow him in the delivery room to watch the birth of his child and nearly all the comments towards the man were negative and suggesting it wasn't true or not close to the truth but when you have a woman posting about how crappy her husband is its automatically believed and once again the man is bastardised without a second thought.

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Yet another man-hating post on BP. Poor guys out there can never get a post about when men do the right thing.

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Mary Rogers
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There have been plenty of BP posts showing men doing the right thing. What are you talking about?

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Rocco MZ
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She clearly knows she's not the ahole in this situation. People just love airing their life stories to get a pat on the back. The husband's a tool and you don't need a bunch of random strangers to confirm that.

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SarahBee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But it sounds like she did need support and perspective. Sounds like she got it!

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