I am IN LOVE with Europe! Tell me why I should move to your country!!!

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England: They don’t come raging out of their car with a gun.

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Toast Of Saint Louis
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But they will with a knife and some acid. So be careful either way lol.

Tee Witt
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Knives are illegal and if you are found with one......

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Sam K
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I lived in England for 20yrs and it was the most boring, depressing place. The racism is disgusting and the people are entitled and rude. They should be grateful for free health care but they complain about it constantly. Actually they complain about everything. It’s too cold, it’s too hot, it’s raining, it’s cloudy,. Just constant complaining. There is nothing for kids and teenagers to do. No youth clubs, nothing so they trash stuff. Playgrounds for kids are scattered with used condoms and alcohol bottles. Yes I’ve lived in different parts of the country so I do know. It’s an awful, nasty place to live. I couldn’t wait to leave.

De Gueb
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No way, it's rains all the time, not to mention cricket!!

Not Proud British
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Depends where you live. Try Ashton or Denton in Manchester and they do just that. Although knives is a bigger problem.

Tee Witt
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is Ashton and Denton like London then? I come from Yorkshire/Scotland/Lincolnshire and never seen or heard of things this bad.

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Ingrid
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is this different from anywhere else in Europe??

GenericPanda09
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You never been to Cheetham Hill?

Debbie Barnes
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You should come to the UK because we are accepting of all nationalities, we are a friendly nation who goes out of our way to welcome strangers and we have great clubs, museums and different areas to explore. We have a great music scene (to suit all tastes) and a beautiful coastline to explore. Please come, you will be more then welcome. :)

Sam K
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don’t know how you have managed to avoid the innate racism in ur country but well done because England is not accepting of all nationalities at all. It doesn’t matter if your fourth generation born in England if you are not white than you can’t possibly be English. I spent most of my teen yrs there and I’ve lost count at how many kids in my school were bullied and assumed to be foreign and told to go back to their own country when they were all 3&4 generation born in England. It was heartbreaking .

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Chris365
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

England has some beautiful places, Lake District etc. Only downsides are that anywhere you go there will be litter. The whole place is covered in it. Even the beauty spots, it really is trash island. Also everywhere: someone who will try and rob you, people who have no manners, people who can’t mind their own business. It is also getting more racist and xenophobic. In fact, the more I think about it, England is trash! Better place just to visit I think. And bring a stab vest. Blame thatcher, she ruined the place…

Debbie Barnes
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What absolute bulls**t!! This is a terrible comment written by someone with a VERY BIG chip on their shoulder.

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    #2

    Take your pick. The harsh thruth is that most countries can be absolutley wonderfull. And every country can be a nightmare. It depends on where in the country you are ending up, in how lucky you are in terms of making friends, in you socio-economic situation. But know this: every country and region on the planet has it's ups and downs.

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    #3

    Germany. Because we welcome you here. Lively cities with plenty of people from all over the world. Beautiful countryside from the mountains to the sea. Well organized. Overall very peaceful. Easy to get a job, comes with 6 weeks paid holiday. Very good social security and excellent healthcare. Public transport. Education is free. Politics and religion is no topic at all. Funny accent. And we have really good beer.

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    Luciana G. da Costa
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cons: Finding a job is easy depending on what is your field of work and where in Germany you pretend to live. If you want to work for a german company, you will need to speak german. It is hard to make friends, if you don't know absolutely nobody here. Some cities are not this friendly with foreigners, also depends where you come from. You have to proof income to live here for more than 3 months and you are not legally allowed to look for a job with travel visa. Also if you want to work in th technology field, you will need a least a Master Degree, most of the people in Tech fields have one. Renting prices in some areas are an absurd. A LOT of Burocracy!

    James Doe
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Very precise. it is getting easier to find jobs only spreading English, but only in the most expensive regions (Munich). As anywhere it is expected that you make yourself accustomed to local customs, especially those that ensure efficiency. People will give you evil stares, not because you are a foreigner, but because you misbehave - and expect your to magically know what you are doing wrong (being too loud (music, conversations, phone, Poser car/bike), littering, body odor, not giving up seat / space, blocking entries/exits..) To find friends it's essential to find an activity you repeatiatly do with the same people. Luckily even our conservative party would be considered liberal in backwards facing countries, because we have learned from the past and history education is not about ignorant patriotism, but to learn from mistakes.

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    ADHORTATOR
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "We welcome you here" does not apply for most regions of the former GDR

    #4

    Switzerland Pros: it’s very clean. Good laws regarding guns. Good school systems. Amazing cheese. Beautiful landscapes. A large amount of mountains to explore. Great outdoor activities. Good shopping. Nice people. Most people know English. Cons: If you accidentally break the social rules you will be looked at funny. Some teachers aren’t the nicest. Learning German is hard. You will have to adjust to another time zone if you move to Europe.

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    Troux
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Europe's Country Club. Prepare to see mind-boggling beauty and kick back a $10 pint.

    Francis
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pros: amazing public transport. when you don't want to learn german, then learn french or italian! we have 3 (actually 4) languages here. amazing healtcare sector :) beautiful cities. big companies are quite diverse. taxes are quite easy to do. schools and universities are great and are not that expensive (University of Bern costs about 1600CHF for two semesters) cons: it is quite expensive. yes you gonna earn more than in other countries but some things like eating out is super expensive (but because of this you enjoy it more i think because you won't do it every week), a 100% work week is around 41h long. because of the laws, companies have to try to hire/find a swiss resident for their jobs first before they're allowed to look for foreigners so it can be really hard to find a job when you're not in the country.

    LittleMissPanda
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cons: you'll never be viewed as a citizen. No matter how long you live there, you'll always be the foreigner...

    Claire Elizabeth
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Switzerland was actually on the top of my list!

    #5

    France Pros : GOOD FOOD, lots of different landscapes (mountains, beaches, countryside), a lot of towns and cities are very pretty with good architecture and gardens, SOCIAL SECURITY and all the state assistance you can get if you lose your job, get sick, get pregnant, etc. Cultural activities, there is always something to do, museums, concerts, even in the smaller towns. Historical heritage (castles, etc) is everywhere and we have a good preservation politic about it. Cons : I know we have a bad reputation, people think the french are snobs who hate strangers and don't speak anything but french. Of course there are french a**holes, rude and everything, but not all of them! There are a lot of friendly people here! Politeness is something very important in France, there are a lot of customs to respect like ALWAYS say "bonjour" first when you interract with someone or don't ask someone how many money they make and all kind of things you'll have to learn about. Younger people tend to speak more english now but in general we are very shy about our accent and a lot of people don't dare to speak english because they are self conscious and let's be honest no very good at it. Our administration is a NIGHTMARE nobody understands it, learning french is hard and spelling is extremely complex and our trains are often late.

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    Not Proud British
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    France is lovely. The neighbours make an effort to get to know you. They appreciate it if you speak French, no matter how basic. They will invite you to their homes and make you welcome. If you ask directions, they won't just tell you they will walk you there and make sure you are ok. Paris is obviously going to be different but if anyone judges a country on one city then they don't deserve to see the rest of it.

    Tee Witt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thoroughly agree with you. Everyone judges England on London

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    Deal _Anneal
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    unless your a Muslim........X﹏X

    ADHORTATOR
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I moved from Germany to France 25 years ago....and became 5 years later french citizen.

    Troux
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "spelling is extremely complex" Eau. Three vowels, pronounced like another vowel. Regarding the snobs, I've heard that's mostly a Parisian thing - is that true? Granted, that's where most foreigners will end up.

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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, most of the snobs are in Paris. Parisians have a bad reputation across the country. But it's not really fair to them because even if some of them are indeed snobs it's not the majority. Paris is a huge city, with a lot of students, persons from other town who are there to work, etc, and depending where you are in it the population is radically different.

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    Claudia Dugral
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not a fan of the food. But I like the south of France.

    James Doe
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A colleague (Frensh) told me that the ridiculous over the top Frensh accent when speaking English is mostly because it is considered snobby to pronounce English somewhat correctly. Can anyone confirm this? It's impossible to understand from the outside why preseived 99% of all inhabitants of a country are completely incapable to convert what they hear to how to speak.

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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my experience using a "good" english accent between french people can be considered snobby because it's like you look down to the others who don't have a good accent. The worst being correcting a french someone on their english pronounciation, then you are viewed as a know-it-all. But all of this applies only between french people. And for the bad french accent in general I think it's because of the way we learn languages at school, teachers favor grammar and writing and not oral pronounciation. And the last point is that a lot of sounds like the "th" are very difficult for a french speaking person to pronounce, we try and we think we sound ridiculous so most of the time we give up and just speak with our horrible accent hoping for the best!

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    Karen Clark
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    France takes really really good care of it's citizens. Unlike the U.S., which is the only industrialized country in...the..world!.....that does not provide free health care for it's citizens, something that should be the most basic of human rights. Disgraceful and appalling.

    Peter Hughes
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    4 years ago

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    I couldn't disagree more - French food is rubbish and the wine is like vinegar, but the people are all friendly and charming (if you say at least 2 words in French to them first).

    James Doe
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dude, I highly doubt you have tasted food in France (outside of tourist traps). Food in general is more expensive than eg Germany but the quality is superb. Even Very simple dishes taste amazing because of the high quality products. (simple baguette + butter + salami, pasta with vegetables,..) - let alone proper cuisine. If you think fresh wine tastes like vinegar you must be used to wine coolers and sugar wine.. (I don't think I've ever defended France, but your comment is just too daft)

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    #6

    Czechia. It's like Shire from Lord of the rings with lots of castles. We have the best beer (yeah, better than Germans). We don't carry guns and believe the best way to live is to make fun of everything.

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    Skull in Sky
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Czechs were called "The laughing beasts" by Heydrich. The reason being that even in the harshest of regimes, Czechs were making jokes and fun of everything. That's both a pro and a con. As a native english speaker (I assume) you'd have some trouble in many places but it wouldn't be terrible to bear since our country was a huge international hub before the 1st world war and we are somewhat returning to that nowadays. There's a big difference between countryside and cities (as with many eastern europe countries) and I wouldn't suggest anyone not knowing the country move there without spending some time there without committing first. Out of the post soviet countries, the Czech republic has actually had the best economy so it's become one of the more developed countries from the bunch.

    Peter Thielen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a German: The Belgians do it best!

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    The Netherlands. Pros: We all speak English as we are used to having lots of interaction with foreigners who do not speak Dutch. TV etc all in original languages with subtitles. Our country is green and has lots of historical places. Good public transport and any type of food you can think of is available at reasonable prices. Freedom of speech and press and a general dislike of politics. Sexual freedom, you can do and be pretty much anything you feel like. Cons: Very overpopulated which makes it near impossible to find an affordable place to live and causes lots of traffic jams. Traditional Dutch food is not very good (that's why we have so many internatinal restaurants). Dutch people tend to be rude and have no sense of fashion or decorum. Also we have too many rules and regulations. Living here is complicated even when you are Dutch.

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    Rens
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I lived there for 12 years, my daughter was born there too. Big con: Because we spoke English in our family, people thought we couldn't speak or understand Dutch (we could and did) so there were many times we were called a certain xenophobic name. Once I lost my temper and said that if it hadn't been for us foreigners, they would all be speaking German. I hate offending anyone but being gossiped about and criticised for being foreigners winds me up. Especially because we were working and contributing to the country.

    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am sorry that this happened to you. I get it, its terrible when people is xenophobic and sees you as less than them solely for your origin. Hugs

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    Troux
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I only have experience as a tourist, but I insist on adding: QUIET cities. Coming from the the Americas or Asia, you won't believe that you're in a capital city or a major business hub. This is mainly due to the transportation; mostly cyclists, some canal boats, and more electric cars than you've ever seen in one place. I have a Dutch friend who keeps me apprised of the goings on, and I think overall it's one of the best places in the world to live - in a pragmatic, quality of life sense.

    Yara Balabanova
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another big pro is the city planning, especially in regards to transportation. You can go nearly anywhere by bike, and biking is safe and fun because of the ways the roads have been designed. This means less car noise, less pollution, faster transportation and you get some exercise along the way. Additionally, Dutch cities are designed to have everything you need in a walkable distance, so you spend less time on groceries and errands like that

    Burs
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. They cities aren’t really great, with beautiful canals and gardens and great public transport. The only con it’s that modern districts tend to all have the same model of a house so it’s confusing,

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    Chiuki
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An awesome place but after 12 years, it was enough for all the reasons listed and commented.

    Burs
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only con That I think that it’s important is that healthcare is really expensive compared to other European countries (cheap compared to USA). You pay a lot of taxes and on top a expensive insurance that barely covers the basics. In other European countries you just pay an insurance (or very little) if you work.

    Sendé Vin
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Netherlands is a great place if youre white not so much of you are not.

    Karen Clark
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, here: I'll "gift" you with this lovely Netherlander. He's not "mine', but he's a shining light in a weary world and appreciated by so so many: Buitengebieden Twitter

    Santhe van der Meulen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dutchie here! I have another con: the weather. If you're looking for a nice warm, dry place: don't come here. It feels like it's raining 80% of the time here. (it's actually 10% of the time, but still a lot). One thing about the food: our meals can be quite bland but there are some great dishes: kibbeling is very nice (very tasty fried fish) and stoofvlees (stewed beef) are very nice. You should also try rookworst (smoked sausage) it's great! Our sweet dishes are good too! Stroopwafels, Dutch apple pie and oliebollen are all great!

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    Con; Netherlands seem to have a culture of women not working or working partially and only as assistants, customer service etc. As a woman working full time and in sime higher position or a field traditionally seen as 'male' you get lot of questions like how can you do IT, you're a woman? What does your husband say about that? And you hear sexist remarks and 'jokes' all the time. Also if you are a woman working as manager or director you are patronized and treated as like you don't matter. Any ideas coming from you are passed until after about six months some of the men come out and present your idea as their own. I guess that"s common in many countries but this isn't how we roll in the north.

    Yara Balabanova
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's true many women in the Netherlands work part-time, but this is not because of their domestic roles, it's just becausee they can. You don't have to work full-time in the Netherlands to be able to make a living, so many women prefer to work part-time as work does not define their life and they often have many hobbies and a large social life

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    #8

    Scotland, we are still European (technically) BP won't let me write more so check the comments

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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's very noice not as cold and rainy as the stereotypes but not to hot people are cool Edinburgh is really advanced nice nature parks and walks but a lot of shops and stuff too

    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love Edinburgh. So beautiful! And the people is really nice there.

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    les
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    beautiful scenery, great food, banter is off the charts. also if moving to scotland its pronounced edin brah and glass go. plenty of bars and a great nightlife in most towns. no tory government (think dollarshop republicans) we generally dont like people that are a holes and will call them out for it usually in a funny way. Invented more things than america

    David Cartwright
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    4 years ago

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    Good luck living under that Commie moron Nicola then.

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    Chiuki
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the most beautiful places on earth, lovely people and wonderful sense of community. Would be my second choice only after Italy (current home)

    lailyfnoor
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I want to visit Scotland (hopefully after pandemic). The reason is dumb: my current boss is Scottish, and I wonder if people there talk and behave like him -- I mean he is something ;)

    Tee Witt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love Scotland, lived there long enough but jobs are scarce, health service poor, lovely weather. Things are different in the cities but for scenery and lovely people you need to be away from the grime found in all cities

    David Cartwright
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    4 years ago

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    you are not technically European. So get that straight for starters

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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No majority of us are not for Brexit so you get that straight

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    #9

    Denmark Fun country, cool people IDK

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    Danish Dynomummy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What about free healthcare, paid Education, 6 weeks paid holiday, 52 weeks paid maternityleave to be shared between mother AND father, free sexuality and religion, great citylife and beautiful countrysides, a Country being led by 2 females (Queen Margrethe and pm Mette), politics being not that Big of a deal, strict laws against weapons... AND BACON AND BEER!

    Peter Hughes
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Love Denmark, Copenhagen is one of the best cities in the world.

    GaeFrog
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love Denmark! Sadly, I visited when I was very young so I didn't appreciate it as much as I should have

    Karen Clark
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know, right? Paradise for downtrodden Americans. Denmark, can you please adopt us?

    #10

    Spain: Pros: Beautiful and diverse landscapes ( we have many climates and beach/mountain). Wonderful gastronomy (imo best with italian in europe). A lot of "street ambient", it is really spanish to go out a lot even if its for a coffee or a sandwich so cities are always full of life. People is very friendly is you speak spanish. Cons: Barely jobs and very low salaries. Very high prices compared with europe of you take into acount salaries (except to go out thats super cheap). It will be difficult to live if you dont know already spanish since most old people dont speak english and a lot of young people is too shy to speak it. If you are not white you might face quite a lot of racism. Socially we are still a bit behind north europe but we have gone really far the last years.

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    Raphael Biock
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Germany: I want to leave, so there is one free space.

    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well half of my generation is in your country already ;)

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    Big Blue Cat
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Greetings from North Europe, Spain is a lovely country!

    lailyfnoor
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have an experience being yelled by bus driver because I asked the direction in English. But anyway it's my fault to speak English in non-English-speaking country

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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No its not. There is no reason to be that rude to a foreigner, he was a jerk. Either you were a tourist (and bring a lot of money to the country since we live off turism) or you were a migrant who didnt learned spanish yet (which is understandable because it takes years to master a language). Hugs

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    ImHailey
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh man... I believe learning a different language will improve a lot when actually residence in their country. I'm Korean and I wanted to live in Spain for about a year to study Spanish but after reading the racism part...I'm too afraid...

    respulero
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i'd not recommend u to move permanently nowadays, but for a student year, dont doubt about it. You will enjoy it. If you have to choose between Madrid or Barcelona, dont even think about it: Madrid. You will feel like another madrileño at day two. And from there is easy to visit every region.

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    Andy Acceber
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My white friend adored visiting Spain and said she'd love to return. My Black friend experienced such strong racism there she said she wouldn't return if you paid her. I haven't been able to think of Spain the same way since.

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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree a lot of people is very racist. Not all of course but the extreme right wing is making things go backwards.

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    #11

    Finland / Pros: Lots of nature even in & very close to the cities. Everybody speaks pretty good English. Comparatively short working hours (37,5 h/week) with no expectations to do overtime, we value our work-life balance! Nice restaurants and cultural events in the cities. Helsinki area especially is very international. Summers are amazing with lots of daylight and perfect temperature. People are very friendly if you approach them and especially once you get to know them, which takes me to the Cons: Small talk with strangers is not normal here, which can be a shock to some foreigners. The language is difficult to learn, and if you don’t speak Finnish jobs are limited to certain fields (tech and restaurants at least) or international corporations. Salary / cost of living ratio is lower than in some other European countries (Germany for example). The winter is long and dark.

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    #12

    Scotland: Most places are fairly quiet, but there are loud cities, if you like that.

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    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The views are breathtaking and the wildlife is amazing. I'm just talking about the east coast area (Tayside)

    Tee Witt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    West coast is MUCH better in everything you mentioned but no cities

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    Karen Clark
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And I love the Scottish accent! I know, I know, all humans have accents, but still....

    #13

    Portugal Pros: It's Portugal, good food, good wine, warm people (especially for foreign people), lot's of Sun, beaches everywhere. Cons: More cons for the natives than for someone that comes from overseas.

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    #14

    Lithuania: don't, unless you really want to.

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    MrOwlAteMyMetalWorm.
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why?I hear the startup culture is growing and is a pretty place?No?

    BoredPanda Staff
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is, but I believe most countries have beautiful places, so I don't want to be chauvinistic and say that my country is the prettiest. As for the startups, I agree, but my answer would be the same as with the beauty of countries.

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    #15

    Spain! Pros: Lots of sun, we are really immigrant friendly. Easy to find a job as a foreigner. We are a small country compared to US, so every destination is at most 8 hours away. Oh! And because of where we are, we have lots of flight coming our way to every country around the world. Cons: Low income compared to other European countries (not that bad but we are also highly taxed).

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    Burs
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not accurate at all. Xenophobia is rampant in Spain now (the other day the leader of one of the parties called migrants “the enemy of the nation”). Finding a job as a migrant is very difficult unless you work in very specific sectors.

    respulero
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Spain was a great country to live... not anymore. Seriously, dont move to Spain. You just go on vacations.

    #16

    Denmark I could say a lot about governmental healthcare, no guns, amazing safety net, wonderfull people, changing seasons, and life in the big cities and in the country. But it really depends on what you like. Eg. I like that it is usually not too hot, the rain and the changing seasons, but if you are not into that, Denmark is probably not the place for you.

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    MauKini
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also don't get a big dog in denmark.

    #17

    Italy Pro: good food, a lot historical places to visit, we have the Alps, the Sea and the countriside; the country is quite small, in max 12 hrs drive/2hrs flight you get to goeverywhere. 50% of people here are the nicest, most welcoming people on earth. You'll be invited in everybodys home for dinner in no time. If you land a job we have medical leave, maternity leave, international helthcare bonuses (the things that are not already free per se are discounted so to speak), 4 weeks payed vacation time per year Con: 50% of people are delusional assholes, burocracy is like a game: there are no rules, a lot of paperwork and no one seems to know how to help you even if it's literally their job to do so, outside the big cities if you don't own a car you're f****d; getting a job is really really hard (but not impossible) That's it :) I hated living in Italy as a teenager, though the States or the UK were the best coutries to be in, now I'm super happy here and I enjoy my life taking it easy

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    Chiuki
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love italy, but the cons are absolutely true. Getting official stuff done is a nightmare, but that makes italians extremely crafty at figuring out solutions, circumventing bockers, using social engineering and finding creative solutions. Worse drivers/parkers in the world (it's true, don't argue). Beautiful place, but tough to find good work, and taxes don'e seem to be used for the right things... ok, not used for anything. Healthcare is wonderful here though, so that's a huge plus.

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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, the mistery about where the hell all the taxes money goes to is yet to be sold (or is it... winks at mafia). For the driving/parking I'll say we are the worst in Europe, I went in Africa once and things got very scary in the Taxis ahahaha

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    Oerff On Tour
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once I heard the comparison between Italy and France. French: "France is the most beautiful country in the world." Italians: "Italy is the most beautiful country in the world! To bad it's occupied by Italians..."

    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'll stand by that. If Italians would over night turn in a bunch of German/Swiss the country would be fixed in.... a month?

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    James Doe
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It seems someone fell into the second 50% and downvoted, so I upvoted :)

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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you very much! Fortunately people in the wrong 50% le their true colours shine bright enough for the rest of us to avoid them ahahaha

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    #18

    Don't go to belgium cause it rains all the time

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    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually find the climate quite good. It rains a lot but it also has a lot of sunny days so its quite nice.

    paul van de veegaete
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Come on, not all the time.... we have a mild climate (and the land is fertile) pro: it's small and so there is always something interesting going on nearby, food and beer is excellent, prices for lodging and necessities are affordable, excellent social security, education and healthcare, most people will manage to speak English and/or French (besides Flemmish... which is sort of Dutch), people are friendly (but a bit reserved, we tend to mind our own bussiness but have a great - slightly absurd - sense of humour) Con: administration can be complex and nobody understands the political system (but there is peace)

    Nimue47
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No more than say, England. Pro: best fries, chocolat, great food, best beer in the world, most of us speak English, and most speak French because the other half of Belgium speaks French. Lot of historical places. Education and healthcare. It's small enough so it takes about 2 hours (depends on where you live ofcourse) to go to the coast, or 2 hours to drive to the Ardennes.

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    Germany Pros: Safety, social benefits, healthcare, education. From sea to mountains you can find everything. Generally speaking it's not hard to find a job here.Relatively cheap if you look at the neighboring countries. If you want a balanced life, you can find it here. Cons: If you are not from EU, bureaucracy may give you some hard moments. People are not the US-style kind, small-talk is not something usual. They are not rude, but everybody is minding their own business. You have to know at some level german, maybe in IT english will be enough. Important! Avoid East-Germany!

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    #20

    Scotland, free education, free healthcare, free roam of the countryside and absolutely beautiful.

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    Chiuki
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can confirm. One of the most awesome places on the planet, and so beautiful.

    Tee Witt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But that will not last once you leave the UK

    Paul C.
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Let's se if you have free education and free healthcare, when Comrade Nicola leads you into the wilderness.

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    #21

    Switzerland, or any Scandinavian country. They're all clean and beautiful, especially Switzerland, with good laws around safety. Both have an amazing school system! The con with Switzerland is that it tends to be expensive. Both are quite great regardless!

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    #22

    Denmark: Con: Taxes Pros: What you get for your tax Watch Robe Trotting or Travelin' Young on Youtube

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    #23

    UK: Don't. The place is going down the toilet. Brexit isn't working. Move to an EU country.

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    Melanie Mengus
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love in the UK from France and I am very happy to be here. There are many people who would love to be here because it’s a safe country, you are free, free healthcare and so much more. Think about countries where people don’t even have drinkable water…

    Tee Witt
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is Bexit not working, pleas explain?

    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Leave campaign promised that we would all be better off due to Brexit; that we would basically keep all the same rights we had before but gain new ones. It was total rubbish: * UK students need a visa to study abroad. * Shortage of workers at every stage of the food preparation chain: not enough people picking the crops, not enough people processing the crops, not enough people packing the crops, not enough HGV drivers to deliver the foods. Result: more empty shelves and higher prices * Mobile phone roaming charges have been introduced that do not exist in the EU * Pet passports no longer valid for the EU, so you need paperwork EVERY TIME you travel with a pet. * No longer a member of the Erasmus university exchange scheme * No longer able to use the Galilleo satellite programme * Increased trouble in Northern Ireland because the NI Protocol (put in place to avoid a hard-border between Eire and Northern Ireland) means a border between GB and NI I could go on, but PB won't let me

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    Hugh Willie Mungous
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    Speak for yourself. Not everybody sees it that way. Certainly the UK is a very, very attractive location for immigrants.

    #24

    My friend lives in the Uk: Pros: Lot's of museums to explore, you never get bored. There are awesome nightlife scenes and the people are mostly quite nice. Easy to get around places. Cons: Drunkards. It's busy and compact, can't see the stars at night.

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    Daisy Delafontaine
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For the stars it depends where you live. In the countryside I can see them :)

    Samantha PandaNotBored
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cant see the stars at night 😂😂😂 ARE YOU SURE ? Maybe you need glasses .

    Jennifer .S
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live in the suburbs of a decently large city in the UK and was amazed when I went to the country at how many stars can actually be visible at nighttime. It was more than I'd ever seen in my life. So yeah, just like any cities, difficult to see stars

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    Tee Witt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You must be talking about London, there is an awful lot of England beside the cities.

    Andy Ward
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people like drunkards ;)

    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For context, my friend lives in the city, not in the suburbs, so they rarely see much at night

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    #25

    America Pros : memes Cons: America is trash and almost everyone is a jerk. Stay clear if this sh1t show.

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    Chiuki
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pro: You can be anything you want to be. Con: half the people decide to be jerks.

    Alisha Taylor
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's the thing; you can actually be anything here and once you find your place, you can be safe and comfortable. America is filled with possibility; you just have to find it. And for the record, if you're going to make generalizations about our "poor education" or "working 80 hours",maybe talk to some of us? Where I live, we have neither. As I said, you just have to find your place.

    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know it’s not Europe but I just wanted to warn people. America is only comfortable for the cis heterosexual white Christian 1st and 2nd class people

    Matthew Zornig
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thanks for warning us. We never read anything bad about the US on Bored Panda.

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    #26

    Good luck with immigration

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    #27

    Does Russia count as a European country? Because if yes, then: - we have all kinds of weather (and not only winter ones, you know). Like it hot? Welcome to our almost subtropical Krasnodar. Fan of winter? Might like Yakutsk, the largest city built on continuous permafrost, with an average winter temperature of below −20 °C (−4 °F), - the nature is seriously breathtaking. Like, don't even get me started on this, I'll only stop when I die from hunger ('cause Mom says talking when chewing is bad manners), - we are nice people. No, we don't always smile (especially to strangers, and that's what gets us bad rep sometimes). But when we do, we really mean it. You know, coconut culture, hard and unwelcoming on the outside, soft and sweet on the inside, that's us, - free healthcare, free education. Oh, and if you prefer commercial hospitals and schools, we have them too. As for the cons, of course, there's a couple, like: - our general fondness of patriarchy. Younger generations' views are certainly more modern, but unfortunately, we as a nation are, to say the least, not very big on LGBTQIA rights, and a lot of people still don't think it's rude to ask a young woman about her plans for marriage and children, - roads. Our local old adage of Russia having not roads but directions still rings true :(

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    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, and we are also very multicultural and been so since long before. But Russian language is not the simplest one to learn (sometimes even for native speakers).

    Jef jeffin mcjeffy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look up Alone I set out on the road, sung by BEK (it might be VEK) on youtube. Its great

    Ozacoter
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is a pity out dated Rusia is when it comes to civil rights because if not it qould be a winderful country. I would love to travel across the country and see the diverse cultures and nature

    Gaby Almodovar
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Man, you have an "alien-type" of writing, meaning you use ciril-alphabet, not latin. It's a big CON!

    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Welp, that's true :) But Cyrillic alphabet is not all that different from Latin, just a few odd symbols. And our spelling very often has more sense than some certain English words (looking at you, though, tough, through, thought and thorough!)

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    Lara M
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another con: racist and antisemitic as hell. Don't go there if you are Jewish or any other ethnic minority, or if you are in any way uncomfortable with overt racism.

    #28

    Belgium (as an immigrant ntives will have other points) Pros: Beautiful green landscapes and plenty of hiking/biking routes. Progressive country when it comes to sexism, homophobia, laicism etc. Salaries are much higher than in southern countries (like spain) and the prices are higher but proportionally arent that different. Both Valonia amd Flanders are extremely beautiful for the nature and have extremely beautiful and nice cities and nature. Cons: In Flanders a lot of people is very xenophobic, you will hear a lot of people angry with you for not speaking perfect flemish (even if you are speaking flemish with them). Some even will refuse service. As a migrant there is a very limited ammount of jobs that you can do because of my first point. Unless you work in very big cities chances are that they ask you native flemish for everything (even to do research in english...). Migrants can only stay 3 months there if they dont have a job or a spouse that works. In 3m you cannot learn a language and find a job so it sucks. If you dont have a job you wont have health insurance and makes things super complicated.

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    Moosy Girl
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    4 years ago

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    We often accept kids of all ages at school who have lived here for a year or more and speak no Dutch (Flemish) at all, and usually in these cases neither do their parents. I have several neighbours who have lived and worked here for years and barely speak or understand Dutch. Judging from pros and cons description, OP lives in Boemmerskonten. :p

    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No I live in the kempen wher epeople is specially xenophobic.

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    Elaine N
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s why learning a language is so important. You cannot expect people to accommodate your every need. If you go to a foreign country, you should be the one to adapt. Learning the language is a normal thing to do, not a con. People who refuse service because you cannot speak the language perfectly sounds very weird and untrue. People there are very nice!

    loopyli
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It seems like they are trying to learn though and that people don't want to speak to them because they don't speak Dutch well enough for them. It's rude, alienating, and discouraging. I don't think people refusing them service is farfetched at all and I know that from experience.

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    #29

    Sweden. Sweden is a wonderfull place filled with tradition and nature, everyone is very nice and we have great food.

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    Pernille Dyre
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sweden... great food??? No way. Denmark is much better! Look at the Michelin guide 😉😀

    Oerff On Tour
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And safe cars and interesting furniture

    #30

    UK because it's culturally and linguistically the most similar, after which I'd say Ireland. Pro: free healthcare, understand english, almost no guns Con: teenagers in tracksuits with knives, crap weather. Also the Brits don't care much for religion so don't go around asking people what church they belong to, stats are something like 25% so your odds are 3:4 that you will get told, "er no thanks I don't really care much for that".

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    Paul C.
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Matt Hollis. Say you get hit by a car an ambulance will come, you will be treated by superb paramedics, you will then be taken to a first class hospital and you will receive treatment for as long as it takes to see you well enough to be discharged. You will then have all the after care required to rehabilitate you. At no stage will you be asked to pay anything. Not sure but that sounds like, Oh I don't know, Free!

    Matt Hollis
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its not free health care, if you come here get a job and pay your tax or we wont have a health care system for long.

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    #31

    Italy Pros: great food (obviously), culture (every city, even the small ones, has something ancient and historically relevant to visit); social services (healthcare, schools, ect) are quite alright, although there's definitely room for improvement; beautiful landscapes everywhere and variegated too (mountains, season, lakes, etc) Cons: difficult to find jobs, politics is insane, you'll be either treated with open arms if you come from the "right" countries (basically other EU countries, the US and Australia) and/or you're rich and treated like trash if you come from Asia or Africa) especially if you're poor. So... Personally I'll direct your interest to a northern country, just sayin'...

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    #32

    Norway: *draws breath* Nature, free healthcare, high standard of living, 1 year paid maternity leave, 3 months paid paternity leave, subsidized kindergarten, 5 weeks paid vacation, short work days (7,5 hrs, by law) cleanest tap water in the world (much cleaner than any bottled water), high purchasing power, very safe and healthy food, small wage gap, near-equal rights for all, friendly people, free education, highest class/income mobility in the world, low unemployment rate, low crime rate, low corruption, population speaks English very well, no natural disasters, cheap travelling...

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    #33

    Finland: We know how to shut up in two languages or more. Also, nature and sauna.

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    #34

    where are you from originally?

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    #35

    Australia We'll give you a fair go....and tell you some funny things.

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    #36

    FORGET EUROPE, COME TO AUSTRALIA

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