Woman Demands To Check Brother’s GF’s Bag, Bans Her From Her House After Seeing What’s Inside
Family get-togethers walk a fine line between a heartwarming success and a total disaster, and sometimes, it only takes a brief moment to tip the balance.
A few days ago, Reddit user Kaylaharper90 shared a story about a recent visit from her brother, his girlfriend, and the children they’re raising. At first, it seemed just like every other time, but when the kids stopped playing, a few toys went missing.
As the Redditor went looking for them, she quickly realized that they weren’t just misplaced—the toys were purposely hidden in the visitors’ bags.
Family visits can quickly go from great to bad to worse
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This time, it was a few missing toys that revealed a much deeper problem
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After the story went viral, the woman released an update on the latest developments
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Stealing can become an addiction
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We can’t know for sure what pushed the woman to steal, but there is a condition in which a person experiences a consistent impulse to secretly take items they might not even need—it’s called kleptomania.
According to the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), the symptoms of kleptomania include:
- A persistent, recurrent impulse to steal items that are not needed for personal use and do not bring financial gain;
- Feelings of increased tension before a theft; of pleasure, gratification, or relief at the moment of a theft; and, often, of guilt, shame, and/or remorse after a theft, and sometimes of depression;
- The individual’s thefts are not committed due to delusions, mania, or hallucinations, and are not motivated by revenge or anger;
- A person’s thefts cannot be better explained by Antisocial Personality Disorder, Conduct Disorder, or a manic episode.
The age of onset for kleptomania varies, and it can begin in childhood, adolescence, or adulthood. In rare cases, it also begins in late adulthood. So, if Vivian has it now, it could be that she didn’t have it when Chase met her.
However, some experts believe this doesn’t absolve people of responsibility for their actions
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“In 40 years of evaluating a variety of offenders, including men and women who steal repeatedly, I have never encountered a true case of ‘Kleptomania,'” psychologist and expert in criminal behavior Dr. Stanton Samenow wrote. “These individuals steal frequently, usually with great proficiency and, more often than not, escape detection.”
“Like driving a car, stealing is a skill that they acquire and practice. Developing a modus operandi, they quickly case out targets and proceed with the theft. They are under no compulsion to steal. If they think there is a good chance of getting caught (e.g., they spot cameras in a store or a security officer), they refrain from stealing at that particular time,” Samenow explained.
But if they do get busted, he said these thieves offer a variety of explanations to try to minimize the penalty—portraying themselves as a victim is one of them.
“This makes the act of stealing appear to be the result of a psychological disorder rather than what it really was—a conscious and deliberate act,” Samenow said.
“Stealing is not necessarily related to a need for the item or to its monetary value. Some individuals steal merely for the excitement. This excitement occurs before, during, and after the act (unless, of course, the thief is caught). For the proficient, frequent thief, even when he is arrested, there is the challenge of deceiving others in an attempt to get out of the hole into which he has drug himself.”
People have had an extensive discussion with the author of the post about what happened
Most of them believe she did nothing wrong
But a few think otherwise
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how these YTAs condoning this - she got caught, called out and is upset that her children saw that? Maybe don't steal and lie.
Maybe even, the children learned that, no matter what mommy said, stealing is not okay and will get you in trouble.
Load More Replies...Take it from someone who tried to steal something as a kid: those girls knew what they were doing! Apart from their ages (they are old enough to know better), they were acting too suspicious. They knew they were not allowed to take the items.
Yeah, it's kind of OP to protect them, but they clearly knew not to let OP look into the backpack. Why, if they thought the toys were gifts? And wouldn't kids normally thank someone for being gifted toys?
Load More Replies...Im kinda glad Chase wasn’t a complete äss-hat in this story, sounds more of a victim to baby trapping. So many stories where partners just side with their spouse for the sake if it. Vivian sounds like a real entitled piece of 💩 ”your girl has more toys then my 3 has combined” Buhu!
I have searched my own family since I knew they had sticky fingers when it came to visiting my home. The behavior stopped years ago after I lost my cool when my sister tried to abscond with 6 pairs of shoes (that were not cheap) and my mom tried to make excuses so I banned them from my home for years. If you worked hard for it nobody has the right to come into your home an take it. If they get embarrassed for getting caught then that their own d**n fault.
She did well, scolding all of them, especially the kids. I was cought stealing once when I was about 6. I remember that to this day. I never, ever did it again. Lesson learned.
"Your kids have more than my 3 kids"? Gee, could there be a reason for that?!? No, OP did right. Call her out in front of everyone. Why? I trusted you to come into my home and this is what I get? OH HELL NO! Oh and I embarrassed you? Too bad! Suck it up buttercup! You don't look at my stuff like you're in a store and tell your kids "I promise you can have this."
The original thread is wild. Some rando thought she sounded familiar and guessed her real initials. OP contacted and it was indeed the same person.
There won't be any updates. OP deleted account. If the extra info another user reported on "Vivian" is true, that was a wise decision
Load More Replies...how these YTAs condoning this - she got caught, called out and is upset that her children saw that? Maybe don't steal and lie.
Maybe even, the children learned that, no matter what mommy said, stealing is not okay and will get you in trouble.
Load More Replies...Take it from someone who tried to steal something as a kid: those girls knew what they were doing! Apart from their ages (they are old enough to know better), they were acting too suspicious. They knew they were not allowed to take the items.
Yeah, it's kind of OP to protect them, but they clearly knew not to let OP look into the backpack. Why, if they thought the toys were gifts? And wouldn't kids normally thank someone for being gifted toys?
Load More Replies...Im kinda glad Chase wasn’t a complete äss-hat in this story, sounds more of a victim to baby trapping. So many stories where partners just side with their spouse for the sake if it. Vivian sounds like a real entitled piece of 💩 ”your girl has more toys then my 3 has combined” Buhu!
I have searched my own family since I knew they had sticky fingers when it came to visiting my home. The behavior stopped years ago after I lost my cool when my sister tried to abscond with 6 pairs of shoes (that were not cheap) and my mom tried to make excuses so I banned them from my home for years. If you worked hard for it nobody has the right to come into your home an take it. If they get embarrassed for getting caught then that their own d**n fault.
She did well, scolding all of them, especially the kids. I was cought stealing once when I was about 6. I remember that to this day. I never, ever did it again. Lesson learned.
"Your kids have more than my 3 kids"? Gee, could there be a reason for that?!? No, OP did right. Call her out in front of everyone. Why? I trusted you to come into my home and this is what I get? OH HELL NO! Oh and I embarrassed you? Too bad! Suck it up buttercup! You don't look at my stuff like you're in a store and tell your kids "I promise you can have this."
The original thread is wild. Some rando thought she sounded familiar and guessed her real initials. OP contacted and it was indeed the same person.
There won't be any updates. OP deleted account. If the extra info another user reported on "Vivian" is true, that was a wise decision
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