Guy Blames His Ex For Not Taking Care Of Their Child, Gets Destroyed With Words

And she pays 125% of court ordered child support, much more than she needs to. There are many absent fathers doing their best to avoid paying any child support to single mothers, sometimes even despite court orders. Honestly, if the roles were reversed, I'm not sure the court would have ordered him to pay any child support at all or at least not as much because they weren't even engaged and she (if the roles were reversed he) doesn't have visitation or any other rights concerning the child. He seems very immature; he needs to learn he can't force her (or anyone) to care and change her life according to his wishes. He should be happy she didn't sue him for coerced birth, manipulation and harassment and that she agreed to pay any child support at all and very grateful she gave him the child he allegedly so much wanted and didn't get an abortion despite his wishes or give it up to someone else for adoption.

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He CHOSE to bully her into having his baby and he CHOSE to make a legal agreement to raise the son he CHOSE to make.

Probably it's what this guy was planning to do. It just backfired, and he's lucky she didn't sue him for abusive behavior.

Absolutely. The difference is that she sacrificed more than the men who walk away. She actually carried a child she did not want to term. There has to be emotional suffering involved, on top of what her body had to endure. She opened herself up to emotional and physical trauma to give him what he said he wanted – a child – and then she even paid more child support than she was ordered to by the court. This guy should be thanking her. If he really wanted to be a dad, he would. But for him this kid was just a means to an end, a tool to manipulate her. I feel bad for the child.

In the US the number one way women get into poverty is through dissolution of marriage and trying to raise kids. The numbers will show you that men, by far and away, drop the ball and walk away from kids and run from responsibility. If women were as deadbeat as men in this arena, our mostly male congress and senate would clamp down on the issue. Right now it ends up being the state that helps support families because women sacrifice for kids and marriage and when it ends, they aren't on a career track. This guy is just a whiner. I do, too, pity the child. Sounds like he wants out. Poor kid.

Mostly no but somewhat. Most of the time when men abandon their families, it’s under the dishonest pretense that he was going to be there. Then he changes his mind on a whim and bam, she’s a single mom. Then he doesn’t pay child support later. In this case the woman never agreed to be there and yet she still pays support. So nah. Not the same thing. And it does make you sound like a sod for not having sympathy for the woman in this situation as she continues to be harassed by her ex even though she did nothing wrong.

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Well, yes, Mark. Exactly. I don't know why your comment would make you a misogynist... you hit the nail on the head, 100 percent.

thank you--it is so nice (& refreshing) to see a man that sees it from that point of view. not saying there aren't more like you, but it would be great if there were a LOT more like you!

Agree almost totally. Also feel sorry for the woman, as she was forced to go through with the gestation, almost as if a surrogate (might be getting wrong English terms) and not only pays child support (even more than the court demanded) but has to fend off the scumbag... if he had adopted a kid or hired a surrogate none of his complaints would be paid attention to. He made the woman's life hell and continues to try doing it

1/3 of dads don't pay child support, so yeah. Next time, maybe he should wear a rubber. Freaking A stupid people procreating all the time and adding to the problem. Dunning Kruger in full effect.

Mark Fuller and Night Owl said exactly what I thought!

tu quoque is not your friend.......it is the refuge of the emotional person, not a rational person

The poor kid, yes. But for the sake of the little one people should actually try to help this guy.

I want to up vote this a few hundred times Bud.

BP had something not to long ago that explained this point exactly! Woman can only make a baby roughly 2 days of the month but men can all day, everyday. It sounds to me he wanted to be a Daddy but underestimated the work it took. Hopefully the child grows to be a well adjusted adult. Honestly, the kids is the one that's going to be hurt the most by his father's actions.

I feel so sorry for that child. Too young now, but when he is older and wants to meet to meet his mum, to be told she wants nothing to do with him. Or worse, to attempt contact and be further rejected.

if he didn't want to be a father he should have at least worn a rubber

No. That is false and it isn’t even relevant to the story. People can have sex with ejaculate and not want to be parents. I do it all the time. Consent to sex or ejaculate is not consent to pregnancy or parenthood. The issue isn’t about who brought the child to life. The issue is that he stopped her from having an abortion.

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AMEN!

Can I just get an Amen for this guy?

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WHAT AN IDIOTIC RESPONSE...HOW ABOUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ejaculate in women than don't spread your legs.

Fetuses are not babies. Until a certain point when their brain develops enough to *almost* feel pain, they are not technically alive/they are brain dead. Even if the fetus is fully developed, it still has no right over the pregnant person. Using the pregnant person's body for nutrients is a matter of whether the person wants it to be there. Once they withdraw consent for the fetus to be in their body, they have the right to remove it. For example, if your sister is dying and the only person who can give her a blood transfusion is you, you still have the right to say no. It's ridiculous; even after you're dead people can't use your organs without consent when you were alive, even if the organs would save someone. Anti-choice people are saying that a pregnant person deserves less rights than a dead body.

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That's a tricky one to me. It's just as much his child as hers and he should have a say in the choice over whether it lives or dies. The woman having to carry it makes it an unfair deal for the first nine months of course, but if he wants it and she doesn't then it's all his responsibility after that.

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Except, of course, for the baby apparently. Right?

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Are you serious? Could you be any more feminist? How the f**k is that control? I'm sorry but last time I checked it takes two to spread legs, lay down, have sex and make a f*****g baby. I'd like to see YOU make a child by your damn self. And I don't mean artificial insemination either. I want to see you use a dildo or other fake object and become pregnant. It was JUST as much his decision as hers. Why does everyone think that because it's a "woman's body" blah blah blah. So you're saying that a man who helps create a child doesn't have the right to say if the child is born? Wow. We don't know if there was a risk it just sounds like she is a selfish hooker who wants to f**k but not have the responsibility of the possible outcome of that act. So again, abortion is NOT birth control. It takes two to make a child and they BOTH have a say in if that child lives. Besides Ms. Feminism at any time that idiotic irresponsible female could've taken her damn self to the clinic.

I think it's more likely he wanted to tie her down to him with the child. It's a common abuse tactic, as most women would not give up their children.

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A bit like a teenaged girl.

Yes,he is a idiot, let's not offend puppy / puppies. 😉