
Woman Asks The Internet If She’s A Jerk For Refusing To Let Her Sister Adopt One Of Her Twins Once They’re Born
Reddit user u/EuphoricInevitable28 and her partner had been trying to get pregnant for a long time, and when they finally succeeded, her family was really happy for the couple. Except for her sister.
The woman also had difficulties conceiving and when she heard that u/EuphoricInevitable28 was expecting twins, she started demanding that she gave one of them up for her.
Appalled and confused by the whole situation, the Redditor turned to the ‘Am I the [Jerk]?‘ community, asking if she handled it properly.
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Some people get pregnant quickly, but for others it can take longer. About 84% of couples will conceive naturally within a year if they have regular unprotected sex (every 2 or 3 days). However, for couples who have been trying to conceive for more than 3 years without success, the likelihood of getting pregnant naturally within the next year drops to just 1 in 4, or less.
Infertility is usually only diagnosed when a couple have not managed to conceive after a year of trying. There are 2 types of infertility:
- primary infertility – where someone who’s never conceived a child in the past has difficulty conceiving;
- secondary infertility – where someone has had 1 or more pregnancies in the past, but is having difficulty conceiving again.
There are many possible causes of infertility and fertility problems can affect either partner. The common ones include:
- lack of regular ovulation (the monthly release of an egg);
- poor quality semen;
- blocked or damaged fallopian tubes;
- endometriosis – where tissue that behaves like the lining of the womb (the endometrium) is found outside the womb.
However, in a quarter of cases it is not possible to identify the cause.
Usually, fertility treatments include:
- medical treatment for lack of regular ovulation;
- surgical procedures such as treatment for endometriosis, repair of the fallopian tubes, or removal of scarring (adhesions) within the womb or abdominal cavity;
- assisted conception such as intrauterine insemination (IUI) or IVF.
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There are agencies that facilitates private adoptions in which a mother voluntarily decides to give up her child. This is different from adoption out of the foster-care system, in which a child who has been abused or neglected has been permanently removed from their family by a state agency and placed with another family.
But even these organizations aren’t as demanding as OP’s sister. Spence-Chapin Services to Families and Children, the oldest adoption agency in New York, offer women “interim care,” that is, vetted volunteers will care for newborns for up to a month while the mother decides whether she wants to complete the adoption.
There is consensus among adoption researchers that for many birth mothers the experience of placing their children for adoption brings feelings of grief, loss, shame, guilt, remorse and isolation.
Some prior research suggests birth mothers’ grief reduces with the passage of time. However, this 2018 study notes “the importance of not confusing birth mother’s satisfaction with her decision and the feelings of loss that she may feel about the placement.”
A birth mother may feel she made the right decision regarding placement and yet still experience ongoing feelings of loss and grief even years later.
In fact, age often has an inverse relationship with satisfaction. “As with time since the relinquishment, age of the respondents predicted an incremental decrease in satisfaction for every year they have aged,” the researchers of the study wrote. “It may be that the distance afforded by time, along with the internal resources and perspective that often comes with age, may have provided an opportunity for birth mothers to look back and reflect on what could have been.”
So even if in a parallel universe the author of the Reddit post agreed to her sister’s wish, it could be that she would admit herself to a lifetime of disappointment and pain.
This is probably the most f**ked up post I ever read. I can't. I mean...how!!?? HOW can ANYONE possibly think this is okay, like "Yeah, we're sisters, you owe me a baby". The level of insanity and entitlement is through the roof. Aaaargh!!!!
... and the fact that some close family members agree with this "kid up for grabs" just adds to the insanity. Twins does not mean "what's yours is also mine", most especially when it comes to kids. I won't necessarily call this one fake.... but sure has an unreal feel to it. 😱. But, then again, due to my own involvement in a situation that had multiple family members with fertility issues, another family giving a baby up for adoption, and an "I'm more entitled" attitude in the mix...yeah, it's entirely possible it's a real story.
It's okay, the other baby would "still be in the family"!!! /s
Yeah cause like a daughter and a niece are totally the same thing! Where's the issue? /s
Is anyone at all concerned that sister might kidnap one of OP’s babies in the future? Unfortunately, I’m genuinely concerned that sister may have reached that level of instability.
That was one of the first thoughts I had when the sister was denied, most children that are kidnapped are kidnapped by someone they or their family knows, normally because of custody disputes or family fights. Hopefully OP can get far enough away from the crazy family, specifically the sister and her supporters, before it gets really bad.
The twin sister is crazy. And this is probably made worse by the fact that they are twins - “we share DNA so she is be biologically mine too.” I could definitely see her kidnapping a baby and running away with it. I think in her head it might already belong to her.
I think she will.
Same!! Omg! These aren't puppies!! And hell, just based off this girls reaction, I wouldn't even trust her with one of MY pups! How can anyone think that this is okay?? Omg!!
We're twins! Your kids are mine! /s
I completely agree. It's so disturbing and unsettling. I don't think I would feel like my babies would be safe in the vicinity of my sister. Who knows to what level her deluded and irrational thinking will lead in regards to trying to obtain one of the twins. I just couldn't trust her. It would be great to contact her therapist to let them know what she is currently doing so they can address these issues with her, in case she doesn't let her therapist know to what extent her mental health is still suffering. While the therapist can't discuss her situation with anyone else, they can still provide vital information about her mental health to them. She definitely needs intensified support as I feel like it will escalate for her as her sister's pregnancy moves along. I empathize with her but I can't dismiss how troubled her behavior is. The family members that support her are disturbing and disgusting as well. They should have her a child, if that's how they feel.
Welcome to what from the outside perfect families look like on the inside... and that is precisely the reason why they say "you don't talk about family issues outside of the family" because they perfectly well know on some level that everybody outside of family would call them bats**t crazy but all inside the family think this is perfectly fine because of circumstances unique to that family that doesn't apply to other people...
I agree like what in the fresh heck is this post
It's a fake story. They do those all the time on that subreddit.
She didn't start off with "you owe me a baby". Yes she did try to talk her sister into giving one up. But that's not the same thing. There are many examples of women acting as a surrogate for a sister who can't have kids. So the *concept* is not so outrageous. I think the mom to be going to "you're unfit because they won't even let you adopt" is mean. Understandable but unnecessary and hurtful. And obviously the sister blowing up at that point was also horrible but understandable. As for the rest of the family they should stay the hell out of it. I feel like the better approach would have been to shut her down by saying I don't think that's a good idea and ending the conversation, not jumping to an inflammatory remark.
The children are not born yet. A lot of things can happen till the births. Also feel she should wait longer until having a party.
I can see why adoption agencies turned your sister down and your mother is a nut.
LOL! You said it!
Way too many people in that family are unashamedly okay with moving kids around like they're not actual human beings. Jesus christ. They're not cookies, "Oh I have two so you can have one". What the f**k
Loads of people seem to think kids aren't people until they're adults 😕
Bear in mind too, that in some places people see raising kids as a family, even community thing. It's not just "mum and dad and their two kids". Not saying the people in this story come from an extended family type background, but maybe some of them do.
This is probably the most f**ked up post I ever read. I can't. I mean...how!!?? HOW can ANYONE possibly think this is okay, like "Yeah, we're sisters, you owe me a baby". The level of insanity and entitlement is through the roof. Aaaargh!!!!
... and the fact that some close family members agree with this "kid up for grabs" just adds to the insanity. Twins does not mean "what's yours is also mine", most especially when it comes to kids. I won't necessarily call this one fake.... but sure has an unreal feel to it. 😱. But, then again, due to my own involvement in a situation that had multiple family members with fertility issues, another family giving a baby up for adoption, and an "I'm more entitled" attitude in the mix...yeah, it's entirely possible it's a real story.
It's okay, the other baby would "still be in the family"!!! /s
Yeah cause like a daughter and a niece are totally the same thing! Where's the issue? /s
Is anyone at all concerned that sister might kidnap one of OP’s babies in the future? Unfortunately, I’m genuinely concerned that sister may have reached that level of instability.
That was one of the first thoughts I had when the sister was denied, most children that are kidnapped are kidnapped by someone they or their family knows, normally because of custody disputes or family fights. Hopefully OP can get far enough away from the crazy family, specifically the sister and her supporters, before it gets really bad.
The twin sister is crazy. And this is probably made worse by the fact that they are twins - “we share DNA so she is be biologically mine too.” I could definitely see her kidnapping a baby and running away with it. I think in her head it might already belong to her.
I think she will.
Same!! Omg! These aren't puppies!! And hell, just based off this girls reaction, I wouldn't even trust her with one of MY pups! How can anyone think that this is okay?? Omg!!
We're twins! Your kids are mine! /s
I completely agree. It's so disturbing and unsettling. I don't think I would feel like my babies would be safe in the vicinity of my sister. Who knows to what level her deluded and irrational thinking will lead in regards to trying to obtain one of the twins. I just couldn't trust her. It would be great to contact her therapist to let them know what she is currently doing so they can address these issues with her, in case she doesn't let her therapist know to what extent her mental health is still suffering. While the therapist can't discuss her situation with anyone else, they can still provide vital information about her mental health to them. She definitely needs intensified support as I feel like it will escalate for her as her sister's pregnancy moves along. I empathize with her but I can't dismiss how troubled her behavior is. The family members that support her are disturbing and disgusting as well. They should have her a child, if that's how they feel.
Welcome to what from the outside perfect families look like on the inside... and that is precisely the reason why they say "you don't talk about family issues outside of the family" because they perfectly well know on some level that everybody outside of family would call them bats**t crazy but all inside the family think this is perfectly fine because of circumstances unique to that family that doesn't apply to other people...
I agree like what in the fresh heck is this post
It's a fake story. They do those all the time on that subreddit.
She didn't start off with "you owe me a baby". Yes she did try to talk her sister into giving one up. But that's not the same thing. There are many examples of women acting as a surrogate for a sister who can't have kids. So the *concept* is not so outrageous. I think the mom to be going to "you're unfit because they won't even let you adopt" is mean. Understandable but unnecessary and hurtful. And obviously the sister blowing up at that point was also horrible but understandable. As for the rest of the family they should stay the hell out of it. I feel like the better approach would have been to shut her down by saying I don't think that's a good idea and ending the conversation, not jumping to an inflammatory remark.
The children are not born yet. A lot of things can happen till the births. Also feel she should wait longer until having a party.
I can see why adoption agencies turned your sister down and your mother is a nut.
LOL! You said it!
Way too many people in that family are unashamedly okay with moving kids around like they're not actual human beings. Jesus christ. They're not cookies, "Oh I have two so you can have one". What the f**k
Loads of people seem to think kids aren't people until they're adults 😕
Bear in mind too, that in some places people see raising kids as a family, even community thing. It's not just "mum and dad and their two kids". Not saying the people in this story come from an extended family type background, but maybe some of them do.