Woman Gets Revenge On Her School Bullies: “I Made It So They Won’t Ever Get A Job In Their Chosen Degree”
Unfortunately, Reddit user u/Salty_Ambassador8169 had to endure a group of bullies who would routinely target her at school when she was growing up.
They went above and beyond to make her life miserable, and now even after a few years have passed since their graduation, the woman still hasn’t made peace with it and is getting professional psychological help to leave those ugly experiences behind.
However, when she noticed what careers her tormentors had chosen, she decided that it was time to tell not only her therapist but the whole world about what they had been doing to her and released a public Facebook post.
Speaking to the subreddit r/TrueOffMyChest, she tried to make sense of the whole situation and her story is a vivid example of why there should be zero tolerance for bullying.
This woman grew up being viciously bullied at school
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And when she saw what career paths her tormentors had taken, she decided to tell everyone about the nasty stuff they did to her
Her story got noticed
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Unfortunately, cases like this one aren’t uncommon. Roughly one out of every five (20.2%) students say they’re being bullied.
A higher percentage of male than female students report being picked on physically (6% vs. 4%), whereas a higher percentage of female than male students report becoming the subject of rumors (18% vs. 9%) and being excluded from activities on purpose (7% vs. 4%).
And sadly, 41% of students who report being bullied at school think the bullying will happen again.
Kids are targeted everywhere. Bullied students report that it occurs in the following places: the hallway or stairwell at school (43%), inside the classroom (42%), in the cafeteria (27%), outside on school grounds (22%), online or by text (15%), in the bathroom or locker room (12%), and on the school bus (8%).
Still, just 46% of bullied students report notifying an adult at school about the incident.
The original poster (OP) gave more details on the situation
Bullying behavior is a serious problem among children and adolescents; it has short- and long-term effects not only on the victims but also the perpetrators, and even bystanders.
Kids who are bullied can go through physical, social, emotional, academic, and mental health issues, and are more likely to experience:
- Depression and anxiety, increased feelings of sadness and loneliness, changes in sleep and eating patterns, and loss of interest in activities they used to enjoy (these problems, as we saw from the Reddit post, may persist into adulthood as well);
- Health complaints;
- Decreased academic achievement—GPA and standardized test scores—and school participation. They are more likely to miss, skip, or drop out of school.
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Also, a very small number of bullied children might retaliate through extremely violent measures. In 12 of 15 school shooting cases in the 1990s, for example, the shooters had a history of being bullied. Kids who do the bullying, on the other hand, are more likely to:
- Abuse alcohol and other drugs in adolescence and as adults;
- Get into fights, vandalize property, and drop out of school;
- Engage in early sexual activity;
- Have criminal convictions and traffic citations as adults;
- Be abusive toward their romantic partners, spouses, or children as adults.
Kids who witness bullying are more likely to:
- Have increased use of tobacco, alcohol, or other drugs;
- Have increased mental health problems, including depression and anxiety;
- Miss or skip school.
So we certainly do need to be having a continuous discussion about what these kids are going through.
And people have been really supportive of her, saying that she must’ve helped many who are going through similar experiences
Some, however, think that the woman should let go of the past in order to move on with her life
Might be controversial but I don't agree it's petty. Why should the bullies get to work in caring professions? The potential harm to patients isn't worth the risk of allowing it to happen and I'm glad she was stopped from getting the job. Apologising only when she wanted something... no. I was bullied. It matters and usually all too little is done to the perpetrators. Sorry, might be because I've been on the receiving end and so it skews my thinking but I'm with the OP.
And to the people saying the girls can change and deserve a chance - it's not like she's preventing any potential employers from deciding themselves to grant one of them that chance. All she's doing is putting the truth out there, people can choose what they want to do with it.
Load More Replies...This is whole thing (situation and responses) is a good example of context, impact and overall awareness. If you heard about this in a small bite (like Twitter), all you see is "bullied person gets revenge" and it's easy (depending on how cynical you are) to brush it off as "someone being petty" or "disproportionate retribution". Being able to read more of the details? Not petty. There are serious factors at play, including the fact that this isn't "bully lite" - this is full on causes-people-to-commit-suicide bullying. 10 years? A DECADE of severe bullying. In that DECADE sounds like they just got worse. And their chosen degrees are in fields that serve up vulnerable people to them? ARE YOU KIDDING? Add to that - the bullying is RECENT. This isn't some 10 year olds pulled her hair, and now everyone's 25... only 3 years passed since the incident(s)... meaning that WHILE they were getting that degree, they were FRESH off the bully train - if they ever stopped.
Imagine them at a mental care facility, we've all heard of them being yelled at, hit, or worse. These girls would be abusing their patients. 3 years is not enough to change. I'm glad she spoke up
Load More Replies...I'd say the real problem is the school and the parents. They should be paying the highest price for not taking care of kids.
IKR?!?! She said the school has their offenses well documented... but they did nothing about it?!?!
Load More Replies...If you feel strongly that this was an overreaction, then you were/are a bully and you know it. Bullies do not change. They do not grow and overcome, they just become better at not being noticed by the general public. They become abusive parents, tyrannical bosses, hateful friends, and felons. They are the friends and family members people refer to as "toxic." They feed their insecurities and jealousy with anger, violence, and hate and often they put themselves in professions where they are in charge of the weak and vulnerable because it's an endless supply of victims to feed on. Children who act as bullies NEVER grow up to be good, decent human beings. They may fool a good number of people but look just a little bit below the surface and you'll see the carnage in their wake. I applaud any scorched earth policy when it comes to bullies. They brought it 100% on themselves and deserve to live, fester, and suffer the muck of their own making
I can't believe that some people commented "Get over it, move on."
Load More Replies...I also suffer from depression since I was bullied at school. Years of therapy and antidepressants can't cure what this classmate did to me. I am glad this woman got back at her former classmate
Experienced exactly what you say and describe Eileen. Bullying is as damaging as abuse by parents. Unbelievably painful and I still have the occasional nightmare decades later
Load More Replies...I work in mental and behavioral health. And there is a saying that should be professionally applied. “If you haven’t sought therapy for your own problems, you probably shouldn’t be working with others on theirs”. I’ve been a patient, and have had a pretty damaging encounter with a provider who did not follow this rule. I for one, am all for the above bullies not being employed in mental health until they complete their own growing.
Good for the OP and f**k them ! S****y people need to learn consequences.
I got bullied in highschool... 20/25 years ago. And STILL I cant really get over it. Just the idea of ever seeing those people again makes my skin crawl. I was near the school a month ago for a farmers market. Even knowing it is an entire new building (they build a new school over the old one that was torn down.. should have been there when they took it down) it still got to me. I never come near that place ever again, just to full of bad memories.
What's really concerning to me is how often school bullies end up in caring professions. A girl who has driven me to near suicide is now working with disabled children. Another high school bully is a psychiatrist. Another girl (I never had a run-in with her but she was seen as the OG mean girl at school) is a psychologist. I get that teenage girls are a category of themselves, I've read many, many papers on the phenomenon since then. But I do wonder how the magnificent personality of these people affects the industry and the care they provide. Essentially, they are given (almost) unsupervised access to the same kind of people they've spent years abusing.
Good! F*ck them. Of course people grow up and change but that doesn’t excuse what they did. If you bully other people you are an a*****e. Period. They are not allowed to just go on with their lives just like that. Life doesn’t work like that. They have to make things right first. I know this sounds bitter but I absolutely do not care.
I wholeheartedly agree. Telling OP to just move on and get over it is so unfair to her, especially since she became encumbered by mental illnesses because of what the bullies did to her for a decade and she might have to live with it for the rest of her life. Whatever negative things that happens to the bullies are none of my concern. They should reap what they sow. :)
Load More Replies...Good for OP. There's a serious problem of abusive people in the nursing profession, and if this post is helping to prevent some of that, then hurrah. Article on bullying and hazing in the nursing profession: https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a14211/mean-girls-of-the-er/
100% on OP's side with this. They did the right thing for the situation. To those saying OP is continuing the cycle and was wrong - I would agree IF (big if) 1. they had made amends before the post and 2. if they weren't going into jobs that require them to take care of the vulnerable. You'd think that studying mental health would make one realize the impact their bullying had on another yeah? You'd then make amends and try and fix the damage you've caused (if you are a good person). So she either does not care and is a s****y person, or has not learnt a thing regardless of the degree. She is literally in Mental Health Profession so she would be very aware of the consequences to OP of her actions - why did she not reach out before? Easy - because she clearly didn't change. Keep that post up OP!!! Also they would have applied for those degrees when they were still in school and being bullies - so no, they did not 'see the light, and change'
As someone who was horribly bullied at home and at school, I am on the fence. It is hard to forgive people who knowingly damage you. However, two wrongs don't make a right. A lot of people have to answer for not helping you. If it was so well-documented, why wasn't anything done? My biggest issue here is how these women got into their fields without anyone looking at their past. OP has a right to call them out, but why did it take so long for someone to find out about their behaviors? I also dislike the idea that a social media post can exclude you from a job. I am glad OP feels better, but when does the cycle stop?
Here in the US, you can get whatever degree you want, no matter what you previously did. Licensing and getting a job is where the past is evaluated. If their degrees were accounting or engineering, I think posting on social media is unnecessary. But these are fields with vulnerable populations and anyone with information that could prevent those vulnerable from being harmed should present it.
Load More Replies...I noticed that one was "tried to barge me into the road". So these girls tried to murder the OP by knocking her into traffic? Is that what I read?
Yup. And then people think she's "mean" for outing them about that. Also considering that she says they did many much worse things too... Yeah they had it coming to them, the sociopaths.
Load More Replies...I had a horrible b***h of a frenemy. Thought we were best friends, found out years later she was spreading c**p behind my back for years, and saying lies to me to make me go off at people. She did so many things to deliberately hurt me and bring me down. She now works in mental health and counseling. Makes me sick.
I am glad OP put up the post. This is great. Bullies getting the revenge they deserve. Well played OP. Well played. PS: I hope you can mend the wounds from a decade of bullying, that is horrible.
Bullied need to be humiliated in the same way they cause this pain. And the therapist part? Not shocking. I know a very dangerous woman jwo is currently training to be a therapist. God help anyone who becomes her patient! I'm hoping her course see through the fact this person I know is a bully and fails her before she can do harm. The issue is people like this believe everyone one is the problem.
Schools are aware these b*tches were making someone miserable and they did nothing - how utterly criminal. Perhaps schools and parents getting sued would put a stop to this kind of harrassment.
Had the one who called to apologize done it long before the posting on Facebook was affecting her ability to get a job, then I’d say fair enough, and wouldn’t have included her in the post. But because she only did it after she was suffering the effects, I’d say too late too bad. I agree that OP has saved numerous vulnerable people and animals from abuses at the hands of these STILL mean girls. Turnabout is fair play. They f****d with her life for a decade, she is now returning the favor by f*****g with their lives, hopefully for a decade. Karma can be a deliciously petty b***h.
An apology is nice but to torment someone to the point that they develop lifelong mental health problems...I don't think an apology can make that right. Honestly they should have to pay for her therapy, I realize that's a radical stance but bullying kills people and I don't think it's taken seriously at all. I never understood why assault, harassment, abuse isn't taken as seriously when it's done by high-schoolers...it's the same thing.
Load More Replies...If I were OP, I would also name the school administrators who sat by and allowed the bullying to continue.
Bits and bytes live forever. Try to remember that folks. Oh. And there are cameras everywhere.
The comment about the therapist talking her patient at the family dinner triggered a memory of something I wish I reported many years ago. It was 2007, I was at a popular bar and this sloppy drunk girl was in the bathroom and talking about someone telling EVERYONE she could. She was talking about a girl I heard of but didn't know, very beautiful and made many jealous and slept and was a model at the race track. That's all I knew of her and her name. A lot of people knew her name. This other woman (drunk slovenly mess) worked at my OBGYN office reception. She had access to all the files and told every one who would listen that this girl had been treated for 2 STDs and has herpes. I was so disturbed I wish I got her fired. I changed OBGYN offices but this article comments reminded me of the incident. People who breach confidentiality laws need to be brought up on criminal charges
And this kind of disclosure is, in fact, illegal (assuming the perpetrator works in healthcare and the person the person whose privacy they are violating is a patient/client of theirs or of their employer or colleague). Anyone who witnesses or hears it can file a HIPAA complaint online to the Office of Civil Rights.
Load More Replies...If you've done something awful to someone in the past, and it is effecting them to this day, you should be living with it as "punishment" until they no longer feel the effects of what you've done to them. I think that's fair. Once she no longer has to take anxiety and depression meds or be in therapy due to their bullying, then I'd take it down. Until then, it's a great reminder that the things you do with or without ill intents can severely damage someone. So think before you act. And none of that "I meant well" bs either. Meaning well and your apologies doesn't absolve you of damage you cause.
I had a school bully for 6 years - from 7th to 12th grade. He was relentless and made me feel awful on a daily basis. It wasn't just me either, he had many victims. A few years later when we were both in college I ran in to him during the summer while I was home working. He apologized, saying he regretted the things he had done to me in school. While I appreciated the thought, I never really forgave him. I didn't owe him that. All it would have done was make him feel better about his behavior - I'm still the one who suffered the abuse. I never would have done anything to affect his livelihood, but I honestly wasn't sad to hear that as an adult he was estranged from his family due to a drinking problem. I'm not sure I believe in karma, but......
You're right. After it's all said and done we owe them nothing
Load More Replies...They have altered this women's life forever, so yeah they deserve to have their life altered as well.
im gonna say it. i have an anxeity disorder and its so bad i need to b on disability bc i cant do anything or go anywhere without my husband, family member or close friend. i havent made a new friend on my own since 2012 (not including my husband i happened to use the hotel parking lot where he worked for jogging laps so there was repeat encounters). i wouldve lived a fairly normal life if something didnt make my already bad anxeity disorder spiral out of control. that something was bullies. i graduated high school in 2008. i started getting bullied in middle school but it got worse my freshman year of high school. i got the nickname floppy fish bc i had a seizure while at school. high schoolers r smart enough to kno a seizure is dangerous yet my bullies who were picking on me to begin with not only witnessed the whole thing and did nothing but they were the cause. my panic attacks can get so bad they trigger my epilepsy. i was being bullied the were crowding around me cornering me which made me have a panic attack and they thought it was hilarious so they kept going. next thing i kno im lying on the ground barely able to move with drool coming out of my mouth and they r laughing hysterically. the next thing i heard was a teacher screaming at another student to call 911 and the teacher yelling at my laughing bullies. they didnt stop either. it wasnt until the cops who came with the emts told them that i couldve died. thats wen they stopped laughing. that didnt stop them tho the moment i was back in school its like the cops words went in one ear and out the other. they called me floppy fish and other names referencing the seizure. my dad told me to hold out until graduation. during senior year they all turned 18 before me during that time they caused 4 more seizures. all my dad said was "now we do something". my dad called the cops to press charges against each of the bullies responsible. they were arrested not only bc of the fact they were now adults but they endangered the life of a minor. all of them had a repeat senior year, they had a criminal record and their parents sided with me and my parents. all 6 of them cant get their dream jobs due to their record. bully number 7 stopped after the first seizure and y is that? they wanted to b a cop and they knew i could ruin it for them bc of the situation. after high school number 7 apologized to me. i accepted their apology cuz they did stop bullying me completely. she even said her reason was bc i have a medical issue. even if it was for the sake of her future she did aknowledge the bullying was bad for my health and life in general. i respected that. i never got an apology from 1 through 6. i mean they were arrested before winter break even started and werent allowed back until next year to repeat senior year. the 2nd half of my senior year was a calm one. alot of ppl came out telling me they wanted to help me, they wanted to stop them etc but they were all scared of them too. to this day im still friends with the others who were bullied and wanted to help me. im also friends with bully number 7 she is the friend i made 2012. she contacted me to tell me she decided to become an emt instead of a cop. but bullies 1 thru 6 r the reason my anxeity spiraled out of control making it impossible for me to live a normal life. the trauma of wat they did and the fact the teachers couldnt protect me no matter how many times my parents begged is still with me. my dad definitely took the revenge he did bc he had had enough and yes it was extreme but it was also the reality of the situation. i wasnt 18 yet and they were. 3 of the 4 seizures went unnoticed. the 4th seizure ended up happening just as school ended and all sports ppl were walking to the locker rooms. a whole bunch of students and teacher saw it. i dont feel bad at all bc their bullying could have actually resulted in that one seizure that ended my life. thankfully i knew ways to prevent that due to previous seizure hospital trips. the thing is.....wat if i didnt? theyd b given charges much worse then endangerment if the worst case scenario happened. especially since multiple students and a teacher remembered wat the cops told them wen they caused the first seizure. they knew wat could happen but kept bullying me anyways.
behaviors have consequences, sorry your parents didn't teach you that, or you couldn't find it in yourself to be a decent person
OMG, the "how dare you impacting their lives" replies. People KILL themselves because of mobbing, that affects their working life as well, I'd guess. There's a lot of bullies in the replies apparently, who either s**t their pants now or don't want to face that they are human garbage.
The whole premise of this post frightens me. This woman might have been the victim of vile bullies but if social media posts from one person can screw up an entire career, it's very easy to imagine this getting misused. All it takes is one crazy person who you looked at the wrong way once.
If it's libel they can have an attorney send her a cease and desist. They can post about it as well. People who commit crimes are exposed by the legal system. This woman has every right to post factual statements about their actions
Load More Replies...As someone who got bullied in high school, I sympathized with OP a lot. I was bullied, but not as worse as what were experienced by OP. Still, it hurt. Plus, I went to an all-girls high school and it did feel more challenging compared to going to a co-ed school. The girls pretty much formed their own clique really quickly, and those outside those cliques were ostracized, I suppose. No one really talked to me, so it made me feel so lonely. It was also the reason why I really hated anything that had to do with group work, because I was basically the last choice. Some were also mean to me for no reason. For an instance, there was an event in school, where students were allowed to decorate their classrooms freely. Some girls thought it was funny to put some red paint on my chair and guess what happened. :') I can still remember the snicker on their faces.
she did the right thing. She is saving animals, vulnerable people, and those grieving the losses of animals.
It was a hash thing to do, BUT considering the vulnerability of the population these bullies want to work with, its justified. 10 years of documented abuse, with the last instances being less than 5 years prior should be looked into before being hired for those types of jobs.
I question how it's harsh to expose their own behavior.
Load More Replies...maybe if their degrees were in something else, where they wouldn't have people or animals at their mercy, then i would say OP is an AH. but because they are looking for careers where they could potentially abuse others without notice, i think OP was in the right to post their past actions. who else would tell potential employers that they've committed serious abuses and assault against someone? do you want your pet or family member "cared for" by someone who did these kinds of things just 3 years ago?
Even if they chose different careers, they should not escape some kind of accountability
Load More Replies...I don't like this, the whole situation sucks. Yes what they did to her was awful and she deserved so much better but people can and DO change in 3 years. 3 years after high school I was probably an unrecognizably different person. Maybe the bullies are still terrible people, or maybe they've changed and OP has just taken away some else's salvation. Bully 1 could have saved an animal from an abuser that now stays. Bully 2 could have stopped someone from committing suicide. We all did stupid c**p when we were teenagers, if we could change surely they could too.
Here's the problem though: (I'm making some assumptions on the timeline, I admit) OP's prom was the last thing that happened at school when they were 18. The girls at that point were still bullying OP and making jokes about suicide. Four months later, they went into Uni with the intention of getting a degree. It's not like you can get a nursing degree in a year (at least not in my country), so that one girl was already planning to be a mental health nurse while at the prom.
Load More Replies...I am probably in the minority, but I was bullied as young kid. Punched randomly, thrown in a trash can. Backpack thrown over walls. Called names and talked c**p about. Beaten up. Chased. Etc. Anyway you get the idea. Anyway. I don’t wish anything bad for those people. They were dumb kids and I made it easy for them, I never fought back. I was the new kid. It got better and I stopped putting up with it and making friends, getting involved at school. After high school none of it mattered I became who I wanted to be. Started fresh and moved on. Kids are dumb but most adults are pretty cool, nice and caring. I’m not afraid, I’m not angry about it, I just don’t care. It was so long ago ago and I’m a different person and I know they are too. I’ve met many of them later in life and some have turned out pretty well.
Glad you had a good outcome. Not all of us have and you can't speak for the rest of us
Load More Replies...I was bullied past the point of harassment from 7th grade to 12th grade. Secondary school for anyone outside of the U.S. Years later, a friend who was a grade below me told me she didn't know how I survived it. She said if she had to go through what I did, she would have killed herself. And this was in the 90's, BEFORE schools started cracking down and documenting bullies.
I also was extremely bullied, by teachers and students and my mum, 6 schools I went to because of it. I would never EVER do this to someone and stooop to their level. We all change once we leave school and 3 yrs of growth after leaving a school yard isn’t uncommon in decent human beings. Sounds like she let the s**t get the better of her and she stooped to their level. She sounds like a horrendously hurt person but she also needs to reflect on vengeful and spiteful behaviour, being she’s not in school anymore.
How come in ten years of bullying they never changed their behavior but you assume three years later they have changed for the better?
Load More Replies...Glad she got her revenge. Nothing bad enough can happen to cruel people who do it for fun
I understand why you did what you did, but honestly I think you did the wrong thing sabotaging their future carriers. I can relate I was relentlessly bullied throughout school by the same group of people. In the long run it made me a stronger person. What happened in the past happened; you can't change that, & yes it still hurts looking back 20+ years in my case. But why sink to their level.
How is making a factual post about how they harmed her sinking to their level?
Load More Replies...Really sad for all of them. Can't even imagine what makes someone treat another person that badly, but can't stand completely on op's side. I feel like, yeah, 3 years is very recent and there's a chance they haven't changed at all, and op actually seems to know she's being petty, but I feel like the minute it became about "making them suffer because I suffered" it went downside. Also, people are saying if they really regretted it they would have come before the post, but tbf I don't see many people doing this even when they do regret something, so easier said than done. I also can see how the girls chose those degrees, many people are cruel to humans but nice to animals and many mental health workers decided to follow that path because they struggle with that as well, but I can see why op got shocked... this one is so hard... all I know is that, personally, I wouldn't do it
I don't ynderstand your point of view. How is it hard to embrace the victim truthfully speaking out about this? Why do you feel no consequences are due?
Load More Replies...So now she’s the petty bully, & when someone calls her out she just gets to take it & live with it the rest of her life. So. When she does something hurtful & horrible her life deserves to be ruined until she dies too, right? Fair is fair. She could have been the better person but clearly she’s no better than them. What she’s doing is EXACTLY the same thing. Grow up. Get a life. A lot of us have been bullied. Some of us to the point of contemplating sui cide. Instead of feeding them more time in your head, be better. It’s possible. As someone who has been bullied these actions are no different- Now you are a bully. Congrats?? 👎🏼 Bullies are hurt insecure people who are jealous of something you possess that they do not.
I was bullied in school and got sick because of it. I had to redo one year in school since I missed so much time. I was always told by the bullies that I'll never make it to med school. But I did. When I was in med school, i did an elective in a near hospital, where I met one of the main bullies. She was like: i am training to become a nurse. You? Me: oh, med school ... that was one of the best feelings ever
If these women have grown they would be able to respond to the posts in a way that made that clear and/or make their own posts. They could use it to highlight what they've done to atone or describe how they feel about what they did or what they learned from thier victim's post.. If they can't do that they should choose different career paths.
I was bullied in school, particularly middle school, known as "Jr. High" in the USA. The bullying went on for years, and school administration did next to nothing to stop it. The bullying changed who I was -- who I am today -- and I will never forgive the bullying. Never.
Me too Mike. I like to think it made me a kinder person but it's been really really hard to live with.
Load More Replies..."I tried to look passed the Clift notes but I couldn't stpp" Nice.
If it was simple bullying, like stealing pencils, maybe the occsional slamming of the locker, it would be petty. But this was borderline torment. And "the most likely to end themselves" thing at prom should've 100% been reported by somebody. No. This was absolutely not petty, it was almost nessasary revenge.
I was the one bullied for roughly 6-7 years by the same group of people from late grade school through half of high school. My family had to relocate halfway across the country for my dad's job. However, fast forward a few years, and I went back to my hometown to visit some friends after graduation and ran into a number of my former bullies and heard the same thing every time: "where did you go? We all missed having you around!" I pointed out that any of them could have asked any of the few true friends I had if they were so curious and that all they missed was having someone to torment. Cue shocked expressions. But none of them denied it. I had learned to defend myself in the years I had been gone and counted on the fact that the c**p they pulled as kids would have gotten them arrested as adults.
I, too, was really angry when I found out some of the worst bullies in school who treated me horribly, became nurses and one a doctor. I was shocked.
yet again i am so thankful for being homeschooled after the third grade. i was weird and neuroatypical enough that i almost certainly would have been bullied for some of it.
You should have punched them back then. You shouldn't be doing much either cuz you're spineless.
I understand the motivations but I think you need more help as if you are a decent human you will feel very bad in the future+suicidal as if you have a conscience you will regret this. I hope you get help though as you did not deserve it but rise above for your sake xx
Why should she regret exposing the truth? How is that indecent?
Load More Replies...I wish there were a way to see without a doubt if a person has changed/ regrets what they have done. Imagine how much good the one with the mental health profession might have done, knowing how a bully thinks and feels.
There are innumerable ways she could make this known. She could post an essay on how her dreadful actions led her to a place of understanding. Easy peasy and not too much tp expect from somebody who tormented a person this way for a decade.
Load More Replies...Do people not just report bullies? You can sue them for it. Yes even children. I wouldn't put up with it even if it only happened once bc it usually gets worse. Stand up and tell adults. If not, get better adults in your life and seek help elsewhere. This is part of how we get school shootings.
Did you read everything? Because its literally mentioned she did and the school has well documented records.
Load More Replies...I really believe that everyone deserves a second chance. But I also know how hard it can be to support that second chance for people that have hurt you.
They can easily address this and get a second chance. Keep in mind this occurred for ten years. If they are humiliated by their own actions they can make their own posts taking responsibility for their actions and in doing so show that they deseve a second chance.
Load More Replies...All I can tell is probably not Brazil, because nurses here are treated like s**t and no one in their right mind wants to become one.
Load More Replies...It's possible that this is entirely truthful. But there are some things to consider.... Why does this person feel safe doing this? Why is she not going after the third one?
Maybe their degree wasn't in a caring profession.
Load More Replies...I'm on the fence with this one. I'm a former corporate executive HR Generalist and I've fired a few people for social media incidents but I think I'd probably want to discuss this in an interview.
sounds entirely fair to me. good people don't enjoy hurting people, making them cry, making them wish they didn't wake up in the morning. schools almost NEVER give consequences to bullies. they're reaping what they sow. you don't get to ruin someones childhood for a bit of a laugh, then carry on your life as if you weren't a vile person
Some people might say, but they did it when they were kids and if this had taken place ten years after maybe they could have changed for the better but three years? Nope, there's not enough time to change from a vicious psycho to a decent human. They deserved what they got!
On one side of the coin, what her bullies did was beyond terrible. On the other side, people can change in 3 years... I honestly think this situation sucks for everyone
No one can change that much in 3 years without a massive, transformative life event
Load More Replies...I love what she did, absolutely love it and she doesn't need to feel bad about it. BUT. They could easily sue her for defamation if she writes stuff about them online, with their names on her post, and she gives no "evidence" apart of what she's saying.
She said the school has all of the abuse well documented
Load More Replies...That not an excuse for a petty revenge. Being bullied in school you should have taken measure against them talking to teachers, directors, police if they stalked you, to their parents, about them on social media like you are doing now.
Victim blame much? Literally in her replies she mentions there are multiple reports of the complaints she filed.
Load More Replies...'Differences with someone' and accusing people of being crazy... yeah, that will make them a desirable employee. You do realise most people don't have accusations of bullying on their social media? That isn't the norm or even close to it. I've done plenty of recruitment and background checks. A decent HR person should ask very detailed questions of these individuals about this, ask if they can follow up with the school even ( if innocent that would be fine, right?) and its unlikely they are going to be able to come up sufficient explanations to make it sound ok. This should be a problem, they damaged a woman quite unnecessarily and you do not want that type in caring professions. They end up being the nurse you hate because they are there for the petty power they can get over people.
Load More Replies...She also mentions a few times "in my country" suggesting it's probably not America which might lead to her not being a native speaker. So maybe complaints about people's use of English is not the best on a website with people from all over the world. Also you last sentence doesn't seem right. Hanging on to horribleness is the best way to improve your mental health?
Load More Replies...How is it vengeful to post factually about abuse done to you?
Load More Replies...''A man who cannot get angry is like a stream that cannot overflow, that is always turbid. Sometimes indignation is as good as a thunderstorm in summer, clearing and cooling the air.'' - HENRY WARD BEECHER. Anger has it's place and purpose. How you react and deal with it is what counts. Anger, sadness, grief are seen as 'negative' emotions but they are not, the are necessary. learn to control your anger - don't run or hide from it.
Load More Replies...She can forgive and still want to warn people hiring for professions that treat the vulnerable that their prospective employees may lack the empathy needed to do the job.
Load More Replies...If it wasn't for the endeavour of the bullies to enter caring professions, I'd agree. That these really unempathetic women want to look after people or animals when there are many other professions they could have picked... no. There are too many risks that they've not learned and why should they learn this on the job? They also might not! We need people who are caring and nurturing as a core part of who they are. Often you see these characteristics in them as really young children. Far too many people have had bad experiences with uncaring nurses etc - there are people who enter these professions for other reasons than wanting to help.
Load More Replies...i just have to say, there is a difference between *moments* of cruelty due to lack of wisdom and insight, and a concentrated, concerted attack that lasted a decade. That is not due to lack of wisdom and insight. those girls are sociopaths.
Load More Replies...I disagree. The damage they did to her is way bigger than what she is doing with her social media post. Simply put - they scarred her for life, whereas what she did was merely inconvenience them a little. And no, being children is not an excuse at all. OP was a child as well, but hey - she didn't abuse anyone, did she? Abusing is a conscious CHOICE, not some innate property of being a child that you have no control over (like wetting your bed). Calling a victim "worse" than her abusers is a horrible thing to do, so don't be surprised by the downovotes...
Load More Replies...OP is getting help. They said they were taking medication to help correct the years and decades of bullying. And as for the kids part, yes and no. If they did this throughout their childhood, the school had records of them doing it, and they continued to bully, that’s on them. There’s a certain age where it goes from unknowing to ignoring the right decisions. They should have been corrected long ago but also learned how to act.
Load More Replies...Might be controversial but I don't agree it's petty. Why should the bullies get to work in caring professions? The potential harm to patients isn't worth the risk of allowing it to happen and I'm glad she was stopped from getting the job. Apologising only when she wanted something... no. I was bullied. It matters and usually all too little is done to the perpetrators. Sorry, might be because I've been on the receiving end and so it skews my thinking but I'm with the OP.
And to the people saying the girls can change and deserve a chance - it's not like she's preventing any potential employers from deciding themselves to grant one of them that chance. All she's doing is putting the truth out there, people can choose what they want to do with it.
Load More Replies...This is whole thing (situation and responses) is a good example of context, impact and overall awareness. If you heard about this in a small bite (like Twitter), all you see is "bullied person gets revenge" and it's easy (depending on how cynical you are) to brush it off as "someone being petty" or "disproportionate retribution". Being able to read more of the details? Not petty. There are serious factors at play, including the fact that this isn't "bully lite" - this is full on causes-people-to-commit-suicide bullying. 10 years? A DECADE of severe bullying. In that DECADE sounds like they just got worse. And their chosen degrees are in fields that serve up vulnerable people to them? ARE YOU KIDDING? Add to that - the bullying is RECENT. This isn't some 10 year olds pulled her hair, and now everyone's 25... only 3 years passed since the incident(s)... meaning that WHILE they were getting that degree, they were FRESH off the bully train - if they ever stopped.
Imagine them at a mental care facility, we've all heard of them being yelled at, hit, or worse. These girls would be abusing their patients. 3 years is not enough to change. I'm glad she spoke up
Load More Replies...I'd say the real problem is the school and the parents. They should be paying the highest price for not taking care of kids.
IKR?!?! She said the school has their offenses well documented... but they did nothing about it?!?!
Load More Replies...If you feel strongly that this was an overreaction, then you were/are a bully and you know it. Bullies do not change. They do not grow and overcome, they just become better at not being noticed by the general public. They become abusive parents, tyrannical bosses, hateful friends, and felons. They are the friends and family members people refer to as "toxic." They feed their insecurities and jealousy with anger, violence, and hate and often they put themselves in professions where they are in charge of the weak and vulnerable because it's an endless supply of victims to feed on. Children who act as bullies NEVER grow up to be good, decent human beings. They may fool a good number of people but look just a little bit below the surface and you'll see the carnage in their wake. I applaud any scorched earth policy when it comes to bullies. They brought it 100% on themselves and deserve to live, fester, and suffer the muck of their own making
I can't believe that some people commented "Get over it, move on."
Load More Replies...I also suffer from depression since I was bullied at school. Years of therapy and antidepressants can't cure what this classmate did to me. I am glad this woman got back at her former classmate
Experienced exactly what you say and describe Eileen. Bullying is as damaging as abuse by parents. Unbelievably painful and I still have the occasional nightmare decades later
Load More Replies...I work in mental and behavioral health. And there is a saying that should be professionally applied. “If you haven’t sought therapy for your own problems, you probably shouldn’t be working with others on theirs”. I’ve been a patient, and have had a pretty damaging encounter with a provider who did not follow this rule. I for one, am all for the above bullies not being employed in mental health until they complete their own growing.
Good for the OP and f**k them ! S****y people need to learn consequences.
I got bullied in highschool... 20/25 years ago. And STILL I cant really get over it. Just the idea of ever seeing those people again makes my skin crawl. I was near the school a month ago for a farmers market. Even knowing it is an entire new building (they build a new school over the old one that was torn down.. should have been there when they took it down) it still got to me. I never come near that place ever again, just to full of bad memories.
What's really concerning to me is how often school bullies end up in caring professions. A girl who has driven me to near suicide is now working with disabled children. Another high school bully is a psychiatrist. Another girl (I never had a run-in with her but she was seen as the OG mean girl at school) is a psychologist. I get that teenage girls are a category of themselves, I've read many, many papers on the phenomenon since then. But I do wonder how the magnificent personality of these people affects the industry and the care they provide. Essentially, they are given (almost) unsupervised access to the same kind of people they've spent years abusing.
Good! F*ck them. Of course people grow up and change but that doesn’t excuse what they did. If you bully other people you are an a*****e. Period. They are not allowed to just go on with their lives just like that. Life doesn’t work like that. They have to make things right first. I know this sounds bitter but I absolutely do not care.
I wholeheartedly agree. Telling OP to just move on and get over it is so unfair to her, especially since she became encumbered by mental illnesses because of what the bullies did to her for a decade and she might have to live with it for the rest of her life. Whatever negative things that happens to the bullies are none of my concern. They should reap what they sow. :)
Load More Replies...Good for OP. There's a serious problem of abusive people in the nursing profession, and if this post is helping to prevent some of that, then hurrah. Article on bullying and hazing in the nursing profession: https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a14211/mean-girls-of-the-er/
100% on OP's side with this. They did the right thing for the situation. To those saying OP is continuing the cycle and was wrong - I would agree IF (big if) 1. they had made amends before the post and 2. if they weren't going into jobs that require them to take care of the vulnerable. You'd think that studying mental health would make one realize the impact their bullying had on another yeah? You'd then make amends and try and fix the damage you've caused (if you are a good person). So she either does not care and is a s****y person, or has not learnt a thing regardless of the degree. She is literally in Mental Health Profession so she would be very aware of the consequences to OP of her actions - why did she not reach out before? Easy - because she clearly didn't change. Keep that post up OP!!! Also they would have applied for those degrees when they were still in school and being bullies - so no, they did not 'see the light, and change'
As someone who was horribly bullied at home and at school, I am on the fence. It is hard to forgive people who knowingly damage you. However, two wrongs don't make a right. A lot of people have to answer for not helping you. If it was so well-documented, why wasn't anything done? My biggest issue here is how these women got into their fields without anyone looking at their past. OP has a right to call them out, but why did it take so long for someone to find out about their behaviors? I also dislike the idea that a social media post can exclude you from a job. I am glad OP feels better, but when does the cycle stop?
Here in the US, you can get whatever degree you want, no matter what you previously did. Licensing and getting a job is where the past is evaluated. If their degrees were accounting or engineering, I think posting on social media is unnecessary. But these are fields with vulnerable populations and anyone with information that could prevent those vulnerable from being harmed should present it.
Load More Replies...I noticed that one was "tried to barge me into the road". So these girls tried to murder the OP by knocking her into traffic? Is that what I read?
Yup. And then people think she's "mean" for outing them about that. Also considering that she says they did many much worse things too... Yeah they had it coming to them, the sociopaths.
Load More Replies...I had a horrible b***h of a frenemy. Thought we were best friends, found out years later she was spreading c**p behind my back for years, and saying lies to me to make me go off at people. She did so many things to deliberately hurt me and bring me down. She now works in mental health and counseling. Makes me sick.
I am glad OP put up the post. This is great. Bullies getting the revenge they deserve. Well played OP. Well played. PS: I hope you can mend the wounds from a decade of bullying, that is horrible.
Bullied need to be humiliated in the same way they cause this pain. And the therapist part? Not shocking. I know a very dangerous woman jwo is currently training to be a therapist. God help anyone who becomes her patient! I'm hoping her course see through the fact this person I know is a bully and fails her before she can do harm. The issue is people like this believe everyone one is the problem.
Schools are aware these b*tches were making someone miserable and they did nothing - how utterly criminal. Perhaps schools and parents getting sued would put a stop to this kind of harrassment.
Had the one who called to apologize done it long before the posting on Facebook was affecting her ability to get a job, then I’d say fair enough, and wouldn’t have included her in the post. But because she only did it after she was suffering the effects, I’d say too late too bad. I agree that OP has saved numerous vulnerable people and animals from abuses at the hands of these STILL mean girls. Turnabout is fair play. They f****d with her life for a decade, she is now returning the favor by f*****g with their lives, hopefully for a decade. Karma can be a deliciously petty b***h.
An apology is nice but to torment someone to the point that they develop lifelong mental health problems...I don't think an apology can make that right. Honestly they should have to pay for her therapy, I realize that's a radical stance but bullying kills people and I don't think it's taken seriously at all. I never understood why assault, harassment, abuse isn't taken as seriously when it's done by high-schoolers...it's the same thing.
Load More Replies...If I were OP, I would also name the school administrators who sat by and allowed the bullying to continue.
Bits and bytes live forever. Try to remember that folks. Oh. And there are cameras everywhere.
The comment about the therapist talking her patient at the family dinner triggered a memory of something I wish I reported many years ago. It was 2007, I was at a popular bar and this sloppy drunk girl was in the bathroom and talking about someone telling EVERYONE she could. She was talking about a girl I heard of but didn't know, very beautiful and made many jealous and slept and was a model at the race track. That's all I knew of her and her name. A lot of people knew her name. This other woman (drunk slovenly mess) worked at my OBGYN office reception. She had access to all the files and told every one who would listen that this girl had been treated for 2 STDs and has herpes. I was so disturbed I wish I got her fired. I changed OBGYN offices but this article comments reminded me of the incident. People who breach confidentiality laws need to be brought up on criminal charges
And this kind of disclosure is, in fact, illegal (assuming the perpetrator works in healthcare and the person the person whose privacy they are violating is a patient/client of theirs or of their employer or colleague). Anyone who witnesses or hears it can file a HIPAA complaint online to the Office of Civil Rights.
Load More Replies...If you've done something awful to someone in the past, and it is effecting them to this day, you should be living with it as "punishment" until they no longer feel the effects of what you've done to them. I think that's fair. Once she no longer has to take anxiety and depression meds or be in therapy due to their bullying, then I'd take it down. Until then, it's a great reminder that the things you do with or without ill intents can severely damage someone. So think before you act. And none of that "I meant well" bs either. Meaning well and your apologies doesn't absolve you of damage you cause.
I had a school bully for 6 years - from 7th to 12th grade. He was relentless and made me feel awful on a daily basis. It wasn't just me either, he had many victims. A few years later when we were both in college I ran in to him during the summer while I was home working. He apologized, saying he regretted the things he had done to me in school. While I appreciated the thought, I never really forgave him. I didn't owe him that. All it would have done was make him feel better about his behavior - I'm still the one who suffered the abuse. I never would have done anything to affect his livelihood, but I honestly wasn't sad to hear that as an adult he was estranged from his family due to a drinking problem. I'm not sure I believe in karma, but......
You're right. After it's all said and done we owe them nothing
Load More Replies...They have altered this women's life forever, so yeah they deserve to have their life altered as well.
im gonna say it. i have an anxeity disorder and its so bad i need to b on disability bc i cant do anything or go anywhere without my husband, family member or close friend. i havent made a new friend on my own since 2012 (not including my husband i happened to use the hotel parking lot where he worked for jogging laps so there was repeat encounters). i wouldve lived a fairly normal life if something didnt make my already bad anxeity disorder spiral out of control. that something was bullies. i graduated high school in 2008. i started getting bullied in middle school but it got worse my freshman year of high school. i got the nickname floppy fish bc i had a seizure while at school. high schoolers r smart enough to kno a seizure is dangerous yet my bullies who were picking on me to begin with not only witnessed the whole thing and did nothing but they were the cause. my panic attacks can get so bad they trigger my epilepsy. i was being bullied the were crowding around me cornering me which made me have a panic attack and they thought it was hilarious so they kept going. next thing i kno im lying on the ground barely able to move with drool coming out of my mouth and they r laughing hysterically. the next thing i heard was a teacher screaming at another student to call 911 and the teacher yelling at my laughing bullies. they didnt stop either. it wasnt until the cops who came with the emts told them that i couldve died. thats wen they stopped laughing. that didnt stop them tho the moment i was back in school its like the cops words went in one ear and out the other. they called me floppy fish and other names referencing the seizure. my dad told me to hold out until graduation. during senior year they all turned 18 before me during that time they caused 4 more seizures. all my dad said was "now we do something". my dad called the cops to press charges against each of the bullies responsible. they were arrested not only bc of the fact they were now adults but they endangered the life of a minor. all of them had a repeat senior year, they had a criminal record and their parents sided with me and my parents. all 6 of them cant get their dream jobs due to their record. bully number 7 stopped after the first seizure and y is that? they wanted to b a cop and they knew i could ruin it for them bc of the situation. after high school number 7 apologized to me. i accepted their apology cuz they did stop bullying me completely. she even said her reason was bc i have a medical issue. even if it was for the sake of her future she did aknowledge the bullying was bad for my health and life in general. i respected that. i never got an apology from 1 through 6. i mean they were arrested before winter break even started and werent allowed back until next year to repeat senior year. the 2nd half of my senior year was a calm one. alot of ppl came out telling me they wanted to help me, they wanted to stop them etc but they were all scared of them too. to this day im still friends with the others who were bullied and wanted to help me. im also friends with bully number 7 she is the friend i made 2012. she contacted me to tell me she decided to become an emt instead of a cop. but bullies 1 thru 6 r the reason my anxeity spiraled out of control making it impossible for me to live a normal life. the trauma of wat they did and the fact the teachers couldnt protect me no matter how many times my parents begged is still with me. my dad definitely took the revenge he did bc he had had enough and yes it was extreme but it was also the reality of the situation. i wasnt 18 yet and they were. 3 of the 4 seizures went unnoticed. the 4th seizure ended up happening just as school ended and all sports ppl were walking to the locker rooms. a whole bunch of students and teacher saw it. i dont feel bad at all bc their bullying could have actually resulted in that one seizure that ended my life. thankfully i knew ways to prevent that due to previous seizure hospital trips. the thing is.....wat if i didnt? theyd b given charges much worse then endangerment if the worst case scenario happened. especially since multiple students and a teacher remembered wat the cops told them wen they caused the first seizure. they knew wat could happen but kept bullying me anyways.
behaviors have consequences, sorry your parents didn't teach you that, or you couldn't find it in yourself to be a decent person
OMG, the "how dare you impacting their lives" replies. People KILL themselves because of mobbing, that affects their working life as well, I'd guess. There's a lot of bullies in the replies apparently, who either s**t their pants now or don't want to face that they are human garbage.
The whole premise of this post frightens me. This woman might have been the victim of vile bullies but if social media posts from one person can screw up an entire career, it's very easy to imagine this getting misused. All it takes is one crazy person who you looked at the wrong way once.
If it's libel they can have an attorney send her a cease and desist. They can post about it as well. People who commit crimes are exposed by the legal system. This woman has every right to post factual statements about their actions
Load More Replies...As someone who got bullied in high school, I sympathized with OP a lot. I was bullied, but not as worse as what were experienced by OP. Still, it hurt. Plus, I went to an all-girls high school and it did feel more challenging compared to going to a co-ed school. The girls pretty much formed their own clique really quickly, and those outside those cliques were ostracized, I suppose. No one really talked to me, so it made me feel so lonely. It was also the reason why I really hated anything that had to do with group work, because I was basically the last choice. Some were also mean to me for no reason. For an instance, there was an event in school, where students were allowed to decorate their classrooms freely. Some girls thought it was funny to put some red paint on my chair and guess what happened. :') I can still remember the snicker on their faces.
she did the right thing. She is saving animals, vulnerable people, and those grieving the losses of animals.
It was a hash thing to do, BUT considering the vulnerability of the population these bullies want to work with, its justified. 10 years of documented abuse, with the last instances being less than 5 years prior should be looked into before being hired for those types of jobs.
I question how it's harsh to expose their own behavior.
Load More Replies...maybe if their degrees were in something else, where they wouldn't have people or animals at their mercy, then i would say OP is an AH. but because they are looking for careers where they could potentially abuse others without notice, i think OP was in the right to post their past actions. who else would tell potential employers that they've committed serious abuses and assault against someone? do you want your pet or family member "cared for" by someone who did these kinds of things just 3 years ago?
Even if they chose different careers, they should not escape some kind of accountability
Load More Replies...I don't like this, the whole situation sucks. Yes what they did to her was awful and she deserved so much better but people can and DO change in 3 years. 3 years after high school I was probably an unrecognizably different person. Maybe the bullies are still terrible people, or maybe they've changed and OP has just taken away some else's salvation. Bully 1 could have saved an animal from an abuser that now stays. Bully 2 could have stopped someone from committing suicide. We all did stupid c**p when we were teenagers, if we could change surely they could too.
Here's the problem though: (I'm making some assumptions on the timeline, I admit) OP's prom was the last thing that happened at school when they were 18. The girls at that point were still bullying OP and making jokes about suicide. Four months later, they went into Uni with the intention of getting a degree. It's not like you can get a nursing degree in a year (at least not in my country), so that one girl was already planning to be a mental health nurse while at the prom.
Load More Replies...I am probably in the minority, but I was bullied as young kid. Punched randomly, thrown in a trash can. Backpack thrown over walls. Called names and talked c**p about. Beaten up. Chased. Etc. Anyway you get the idea. Anyway. I don’t wish anything bad for those people. They were dumb kids and I made it easy for them, I never fought back. I was the new kid. It got better and I stopped putting up with it and making friends, getting involved at school. After high school none of it mattered I became who I wanted to be. Started fresh and moved on. Kids are dumb but most adults are pretty cool, nice and caring. I’m not afraid, I’m not angry about it, I just don’t care. It was so long ago ago and I’m a different person and I know they are too. I’ve met many of them later in life and some have turned out pretty well.
Glad you had a good outcome. Not all of us have and you can't speak for the rest of us
Load More Replies...I was bullied past the point of harassment from 7th grade to 12th grade. Secondary school for anyone outside of the U.S. Years later, a friend who was a grade below me told me she didn't know how I survived it. She said if she had to go through what I did, she would have killed herself. And this was in the 90's, BEFORE schools started cracking down and documenting bullies.
I also was extremely bullied, by teachers and students and my mum, 6 schools I went to because of it. I would never EVER do this to someone and stooop to their level. We all change once we leave school and 3 yrs of growth after leaving a school yard isn’t uncommon in decent human beings. Sounds like she let the s**t get the better of her and she stooped to their level. She sounds like a horrendously hurt person but she also needs to reflect on vengeful and spiteful behaviour, being she’s not in school anymore.
How come in ten years of bullying they never changed their behavior but you assume three years later they have changed for the better?
Load More Replies...Glad she got her revenge. Nothing bad enough can happen to cruel people who do it for fun
I understand why you did what you did, but honestly I think you did the wrong thing sabotaging their future carriers. I can relate I was relentlessly bullied throughout school by the same group of people. In the long run it made me a stronger person. What happened in the past happened; you can't change that, & yes it still hurts looking back 20+ years in my case. But why sink to their level.
How is making a factual post about how they harmed her sinking to their level?
Load More Replies...Really sad for all of them. Can't even imagine what makes someone treat another person that badly, but can't stand completely on op's side. I feel like, yeah, 3 years is very recent and there's a chance they haven't changed at all, and op actually seems to know she's being petty, but I feel like the minute it became about "making them suffer because I suffered" it went downside. Also, people are saying if they really regretted it they would have come before the post, but tbf I don't see many people doing this even when they do regret something, so easier said than done. I also can see how the girls chose those degrees, many people are cruel to humans but nice to animals and many mental health workers decided to follow that path because they struggle with that as well, but I can see why op got shocked... this one is so hard... all I know is that, personally, I wouldn't do it
I don't ynderstand your point of view. How is it hard to embrace the victim truthfully speaking out about this? Why do you feel no consequences are due?
Load More Replies...So now she’s the petty bully, & when someone calls her out she just gets to take it & live with it the rest of her life. So. When she does something hurtful & horrible her life deserves to be ruined until she dies too, right? Fair is fair. She could have been the better person but clearly she’s no better than them. What she’s doing is EXACTLY the same thing. Grow up. Get a life. A lot of us have been bullied. Some of us to the point of contemplating sui cide. Instead of feeding them more time in your head, be better. It’s possible. As someone who has been bullied these actions are no different- Now you are a bully. Congrats?? 👎🏼 Bullies are hurt insecure people who are jealous of something you possess that they do not.
I was bullied in school and got sick because of it. I had to redo one year in school since I missed so much time. I was always told by the bullies that I'll never make it to med school. But I did. When I was in med school, i did an elective in a near hospital, where I met one of the main bullies. She was like: i am training to become a nurse. You? Me: oh, med school ... that was one of the best feelings ever
If these women have grown they would be able to respond to the posts in a way that made that clear and/or make their own posts. They could use it to highlight what they've done to atone or describe how they feel about what they did or what they learned from thier victim's post.. If they can't do that they should choose different career paths.
I was bullied in school, particularly middle school, known as "Jr. High" in the USA. The bullying went on for years, and school administration did next to nothing to stop it. The bullying changed who I was -- who I am today -- and I will never forgive the bullying. Never.
Me too Mike. I like to think it made me a kinder person but it's been really really hard to live with.
Load More Replies..."I tried to look passed the Clift notes but I couldn't stpp" Nice.
If it was simple bullying, like stealing pencils, maybe the occsional slamming of the locker, it would be petty. But this was borderline torment. And "the most likely to end themselves" thing at prom should've 100% been reported by somebody. No. This was absolutely not petty, it was almost nessasary revenge.
I was the one bullied for roughly 6-7 years by the same group of people from late grade school through half of high school. My family had to relocate halfway across the country for my dad's job. However, fast forward a few years, and I went back to my hometown to visit some friends after graduation and ran into a number of my former bullies and heard the same thing every time: "where did you go? We all missed having you around!" I pointed out that any of them could have asked any of the few true friends I had if they were so curious and that all they missed was having someone to torment. Cue shocked expressions. But none of them denied it. I had learned to defend myself in the years I had been gone and counted on the fact that the c**p they pulled as kids would have gotten them arrested as adults.
I, too, was really angry when I found out some of the worst bullies in school who treated me horribly, became nurses and one a doctor. I was shocked.
yet again i am so thankful for being homeschooled after the third grade. i was weird and neuroatypical enough that i almost certainly would have been bullied for some of it.
You should have punched them back then. You shouldn't be doing much either cuz you're spineless.
I understand the motivations but I think you need more help as if you are a decent human you will feel very bad in the future+suicidal as if you have a conscience you will regret this. I hope you get help though as you did not deserve it but rise above for your sake xx
Why should she regret exposing the truth? How is that indecent?
Load More Replies...I wish there were a way to see without a doubt if a person has changed/ regrets what they have done. Imagine how much good the one with the mental health profession might have done, knowing how a bully thinks and feels.
There are innumerable ways she could make this known. She could post an essay on how her dreadful actions led her to a place of understanding. Easy peasy and not too much tp expect from somebody who tormented a person this way for a decade.
Load More Replies...Do people not just report bullies? You can sue them for it. Yes even children. I wouldn't put up with it even if it only happened once bc it usually gets worse. Stand up and tell adults. If not, get better adults in your life and seek help elsewhere. This is part of how we get school shootings.
Did you read everything? Because its literally mentioned she did and the school has well documented records.
Load More Replies...I really believe that everyone deserves a second chance. But I also know how hard it can be to support that second chance for people that have hurt you.
They can easily address this and get a second chance. Keep in mind this occurred for ten years. If they are humiliated by their own actions they can make their own posts taking responsibility for their actions and in doing so show that they deseve a second chance.
Load More Replies...All I can tell is probably not Brazil, because nurses here are treated like s**t and no one in their right mind wants to become one.
Load More Replies...It's possible that this is entirely truthful. But there are some things to consider.... Why does this person feel safe doing this? Why is she not going after the third one?
Maybe their degree wasn't in a caring profession.
Load More Replies...I'm on the fence with this one. I'm a former corporate executive HR Generalist and I've fired a few people for social media incidents but I think I'd probably want to discuss this in an interview.
sounds entirely fair to me. good people don't enjoy hurting people, making them cry, making them wish they didn't wake up in the morning. schools almost NEVER give consequences to bullies. they're reaping what they sow. you don't get to ruin someones childhood for a bit of a laugh, then carry on your life as if you weren't a vile person
Some people might say, but they did it when they were kids and if this had taken place ten years after maybe they could have changed for the better but three years? Nope, there's not enough time to change from a vicious psycho to a decent human. They deserved what they got!
On one side of the coin, what her bullies did was beyond terrible. On the other side, people can change in 3 years... I honestly think this situation sucks for everyone
No one can change that much in 3 years without a massive, transformative life event
Load More Replies...I love what she did, absolutely love it and she doesn't need to feel bad about it. BUT. They could easily sue her for defamation if she writes stuff about them online, with their names on her post, and she gives no "evidence" apart of what she's saying.
She said the school has all of the abuse well documented
Load More Replies...That not an excuse for a petty revenge. Being bullied in school you should have taken measure against them talking to teachers, directors, police if they stalked you, to their parents, about them on social media like you are doing now.
Victim blame much? Literally in her replies she mentions there are multiple reports of the complaints she filed.
Load More Replies...'Differences with someone' and accusing people of being crazy... yeah, that will make them a desirable employee. You do realise most people don't have accusations of bullying on their social media? That isn't the norm or even close to it. I've done plenty of recruitment and background checks. A decent HR person should ask very detailed questions of these individuals about this, ask if they can follow up with the school even ( if innocent that would be fine, right?) and its unlikely they are going to be able to come up sufficient explanations to make it sound ok. This should be a problem, they damaged a woman quite unnecessarily and you do not want that type in caring professions. They end up being the nurse you hate because they are there for the petty power they can get over people.
Load More Replies...She also mentions a few times "in my country" suggesting it's probably not America which might lead to her not being a native speaker. So maybe complaints about people's use of English is not the best on a website with people from all over the world. Also you last sentence doesn't seem right. Hanging on to horribleness is the best way to improve your mental health?
Load More Replies...How is it vengeful to post factually about abuse done to you?
Load More Replies...''A man who cannot get angry is like a stream that cannot overflow, that is always turbid. Sometimes indignation is as good as a thunderstorm in summer, clearing and cooling the air.'' - HENRY WARD BEECHER. Anger has it's place and purpose. How you react and deal with it is what counts. Anger, sadness, grief are seen as 'negative' emotions but they are not, the are necessary. learn to control your anger - don't run or hide from it.
Load More Replies...She can forgive and still want to warn people hiring for professions that treat the vulnerable that their prospective employees may lack the empathy needed to do the job.
Load More Replies...If it wasn't for the endeavour of the bullies to enter caring professions, I'd agree. That these really unempathetic women want to look after people or animals when there are many other professions they could have picked... no. There are too many risks that they've not learned and why should they learn this on the job? They also might not! We need people who are caring and nurturing as a core part of who they are. Often you see these characteristics in them as really young children. Far too many people have had bad experiences with uncaring nurses etc - there are people who enter these professions for other reasons than wanting to help.
Load More Replies...i just have to say, there is a difference between *moments* of cruelty due to lack of wisdom and insight, and a concentrated, concerted attack that lasted a decade. That is not due to lack of wisdom and insight. those girls are sociopaths.
Load More Replies...I disagree. The damage they did to her is way bigger than what she is doing with her social media post. Simply put - they scarred her for life, whereas what she did was merely inconvenience them a little. And no, being children is not an excuse at all. OP was a child as well, but hey - she didn't abuse anyone, did she? Abusing is a conscious CHOICE, not some innate property of being a child that you have no control over (like wetting your bed). Calling a victim "worse" than her abusers is a horrible thing to do, so don't be surprised by the downovotes...
Load More Replies...OP is getting help. They said they were taking medication to help correct the years and decades of bullying. And as for the kids part, yes and no. If they did this throughout their childhood, the school had records of them doing it, and they continued to bully, that’s on them. There’s a certain age where it goes from unknowing to ignoring the right decisions. They should have been corrected long ago but also learned how to act.
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