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Woman Can’t Understand Why She Doesn’t Like BIL, He Gives Her A Perfect Reason At Family Dinner
Woman Can’t Understand Why She Doesn’t Like BIL, He Gives Her A Perfect Reason At Family Dinner
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Woman Can’t Understand Why She Doesn’t Like BIL, He Gives Her A Perfect Reason At Family Dinner

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Many families usually have traditions. Some go camping together, others have weekly movie nights, and some even take family vacations. This big family had the tradition of coming together for a family dinner at their father’s house, with rules about who gets served first.

But a new member of the family didn’t like this tradition. He believed the men should get their meals first, causing a huge family fight. The elder sister felt guilty for possibly contributing to this fight, so she went online to ask folks whether she did the right thing.

To know more about the importance of family traditions, Bored Panda sought the expertise of Dr. Darcy Lockman, Ph.D., clinical psychologist and author of All the Rage: Mothers, Fathers, and the Myth of Equal Partnership. You will find her expert insights below!

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    Having a big family can be a blessing: you always have someone to count on and are always part of a big tribe. However, there are also disadvantages. Where there are many people, there are many opinions, about everything. Family traditions included.

    Yet, having some family routines and traditions is important. “Human beings need to feel seen and loved,” Darcy Lockman, Ph.D. and author of “All the Rage: Mothers, Fathers, and the Myth of Equal Partnership”, told Bored Panda.

    A tradition to gather around for a family dinner at the grandpa’s table can be an important one. “When you sit down over a meal, you are dedicating time to knowing and seeing your kids, and that is so important to their emotional well-being,” Dr. Lockman adds.

    In families, there might be a long-standing way of doing things that each family member accepts. But when a new family member, like a brother-in-law, gets introduced, they might question those routines and their significance.

    Dr. Lockman says that it all comes down to respecting the values of other people. If people can’t respect the values of others, there’s bound to be fighting. “I think in a family where people practice mutual respect, they can respectfully accept different standards in different homes,” Dr. Darcy Lockman told Bored Panda.

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    Newcomer in-laws can respect their new family’s traditions and try to learn something new

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    Joining a big family as an in-law can seem daunting. Mental health therapist Heather from The Seacoast Moms shared her experience as a newbie in-law of a big family, saying that they can often come with intense confrontations, dramatic interactions, and overstimulating gatherings.

    However, that doesn’t mean that it’s all bad being a new in-law in a huge family. Heather writes that it’s important to look for the good in all family members. While this may apply particularly to the in-laws you don’t get on with well, it’s still a good general rule.

    Also, she recommends not taking things personally. The family might talk about you in good and bad terms. What’s important, according to Heather, is to take it all in with grace. “Good or bad, family will talk,” she writes. “How you internalize what is said is entirely up to you.”

    That’s why it’s important to pick and choose your battles. Confrontations are inevitable. It’s best to recognize that not every battle is for you as an in-law.

    When the new in-law is a united front with their spouse, tackling delicate issues might be easier. From what the author wrote about this story, it doesn’t seem the brother-in-law’s wife was on the same page, so perhaps that’s why his comment felt so out of place.

    Some commenters pointed out that the brother-in-law might come from a different culture and that in his family, serving the men first was a tradition. However, when coming as new in-laws into a big family, people shouldn’t force their family’s rituals on them.

    “Instead of focusing on your differences with disdain, take a step back and recognize how different family cultures bring spice and insights into the mix,” Heather writes for The Seacoast Moms.

    Many people in the comments sided with the author and the head of the family

    Others cautioned to consider cultural differences: perhaps the BIL grew up in a family where serving the men first was the norm

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    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Kornelija Viečaitė

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    Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

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    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Writer, BoredPanda staff

    Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

    What do you think ?
    Traveling Lady Railfan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "In this family, Dan, the children are served first. But since you're obviously a big whiny baby...here's your meal. Oh, and your seat is at the kiddie table"

    The Other Guest
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perhaps, as others have mentioned, Dan is from a family/culture where the men were served first. However, since he is (allegedly) a grown-a‍ss adult, he should a) know that not every family/culture is the same and b) be able to figure out by observation that "his way" isn't the norm in that household. Mentioning the difference is OK if done in a "huh, isn't that interesting?" sort of way; having a hissy fit & arguing with the host(s) is not.

    Ash
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agreed. and in cultures where the men are served first, there is generally also a pretty strong rule that the family patriarch is respected, ESPECIALLY when he's the host. Dan argued with him. Dan's definitely just an AH.

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    Janelle Collard
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn't seem like Dan's ever been around hungry kids. Of course you feed them first! Or, OP could've given Dan a Snickers cuz "you're not you when you're hungry." ;)

    Rachel Hendricks
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, I'm not sure I'd give him anything but a chocolate covered mess that might resemble a dog turd. He needed putting in his place, hope they keep him as low man in the rankings until he grows up and gets his bs alpha male attitude checked.

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    Breadcrumb.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's such a toxic idea that men should eat first. I don't care if it's your tradition it's sexist and some traditions deserve to be left in the past.

    UpupaEpops
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was the way on my family's farm. Children would do simple stuff like collect fallen apples and feed the chickens. Women would cook, clean, and take care of the laundry, paint fences, etc. As the farm was too small for fancy equipment, it fell on the men to chop wood, mend fences, load produce on hired trucks, move bales, fix the roof, and take care of the larger animals. You could easily expect a grown man to have to shift a couple of thousand kilograms a day. When those men would practically collapse into their seats for lunch or dinner, you bet we were the last to be fed. On the other hand, we were snacking on fruits that were freely available all day long, so it's not like we were starving.

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    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you’re the newest member of the family, and going to your first family meal, you STFU and watch everyone else, to gauge how to act. You do NOT insist on being treated like the center of attention, ffs. That’s a really good way to be left out of family functions in the future, and eventually shoved out of the family entirely.

    Bewitched One
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He did do that the first meal. This time wasn’t the first, the second I believe

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    R Dennis
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'll stick with the traditional "A man makes sure his family is fed before he eats." I am not from any kind of hierarchy/traditional background, but it seems that that makes obvious sense.

    Pencil McGovern
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agree. Because really what this family is saying is: "Adults make sure their children are fed before they feed themselves." Which is kind of unimpeachable.

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    Libstak
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's unconscionable to let the kids go hungry while feeding someone else first. Adults provide for their children and their spouses, that is what adult responsibility is. I can't fathom this level of selfishness. Hope she divorces him.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The kids go hungry? While you fix a plate for someone else? Seriously? No kid is going to starve in thirteen seconds. Yes, this guy is an Uber douche, but let's not pretend it's because the kids were on deaths door and he stole their medically advised peanuts.

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    Reta Murphy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My father was a misogynistic a*****e. He knew kids got fed first. Mom would put food on plate and dad cooled it for the littlest ones. As family grew, kids first, and if there were any highchair needs help children, their moms would sit and start feeding them. Their husbands would fix mom's plate and their own plate. Take the plates to the table and the kid sat between their parents, so that both could eat and both could help feed the kids. It was a if there was something to be done, someone do it and I don't care who you are. If you were closest, you did it. All the men knew how to cook and care for children. You know be a parent. Oh I am a boomer so it is not an age thing, its an a*****e thing.

    Sue Burrison
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, where is his wife in all of this? I would never stay silent while my husband disrespects my family this way! Maybe keep an eye out for a possible abusive relationship?

    Occam's Chainsaw
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was wondering the same thing. I wonder what her reaction was? The fact that he never came to a family dinner prior to marriage also feels like an alarm bell to me. I am not very traditional, but I grew up in an area where it is very common, and I have never heard of this being a thing.

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    Belle Miles
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Feed the sharks first... That was funny.

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    Traveling Lady Railfan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "In this family, Dan, the children are served first. But since you're obviously a big whiny baby...here's your meal. Oh, and your seat is at the kiddie table"

    The Other Guest
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perhaps, as others have mentioned, Dan is from a family/culture where the men were served first. However, since he is (allegedly) a grown-a‍ss adult, he should a) know that not every family/culture is the same and b) be able to figure out by observation that "his way" isn't the norm in that household. Mentioning the difference is OK if done in a "huh, isn't that interesting?" sort of way; having a hissy fit & arguing with the host(s) is not.

    Ash
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agreed. and in cultures where the men are served first, there is generally also a pretty strong rule that the family patriarch is respected, ESPECIALLY when he's the host. Dan argued with him. Dan's definitely just an AH.

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    Janelle Collard
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn't seem like Dan's ever been around hungry kids. Of course you feed them first! Or, OP could've given Dan a Snickers cuz "you're not you when you're hungry." ;)

    Rachel Hendricks
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, I'm not sure I'd give him anything but a chocolate covered mess that might resemble a dog turd. He needed putting in his place, hope they keep him as low man in the rankings until he grows up and gets his bs alpha male attitude checked.

    Load More Replies...
    Breadcrumb.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's such a toxic idea that men should eat first. I don't care if it's your tradition it's sexist and some traditions deserve to be left in the past.

    UpupaEpops
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was the way on my family's farm. Children would do simple stuff like collect fallen apples and feed the chickens. Women would cook, clean, and take care of the laundry, paint fences, etc. As the farm was too small for fancy equipment, it fell on the men to chop wood, mend fences, load produce on hired trucks, move bales, fix the roof, and take care of the larger animals. You could easily expect a grown man to have to shift a couple of thousand kilograms a day. When those men would practically collapse into their seats for lunch or dinner, you bet we were the last to be fed. On the other hand, we were snacking on fruits that were freely available all day long, so it's not like we were starving.

    Load More Replies...
    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you’re the newest member of the family, and going to your first family meal, you STFU and watch everyone else, to gauge how to act. You do NOT insist on being treated like the center of attention, ffs. That’s a really good way to be left out of family functions in the future, and eventually shoved out of the family entirely.

    Bewitched One
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He did do that the first meal. This time wasn’t the first, the second I believe

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    R Dennis
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'll stick with the traditional "A man makes sure his family is fed before he eats." I am not from any kind of hierarchy/traditional background, but it seems that that makes obvious sense.

    Pencil McGovern
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agree. Because really what this family is saying is: "Adults make sure their children are fed before they feed themselves." Which is kind of unimpeachable.

    Load More Replies...
    Libstak
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's unconscionable to let the kids go hungry while feeding someone else first. Adults provide for their children and their spouses, that is what adult responsibility is. I can't fathom this level of selfishness. Hope she divorces him.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The kids go hungry? While you fix a plate for someone else? Seriously? No kid is going to starve in thirteen seconds. Yes, this guy is an Uber douche, but let's not pretend it's because the kids were on deaths door and he stole their medically advised peanuts.

    Load More Replies...
    Reta Murphy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My father was a misogynistic a*****e. He knew kids got fed first. Mom would put food on plate and dad cooled it for the littlest ones. As family grew, kids first, and if there were any highchair needs help children, their moms would sit and start feeding them. Their husbands would fix mom's plate and their own plate. Take the plates to the table and the kid sat between their parents, so that both could eat and both could help feed the kids. It was a if there was something to be done, someone do it and I don't care who you are. If you were closest, you did it. All the men knew how to cook and care for children. You know be a parent. Oh I am a boomer so it is not an age thing, its an a*****e thing.

    Sue Burrison
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, where is his wife in all of this? I would never stay silent while my husband disrespects my family this way! Maybe keep an eye out for a possible abusive relationship?

    Occam's Chainsaw
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was wondering the same thing. I wonder what her reaction was? The fact that he never came to a family dinner prior to marriage also feels like an alarm bell to me. I am not very traditional, but I grew up in an area where it is very common, and I have never heard of this being a thing.

    Load More Replies...
    Belle Miles
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Feed the sharks first... That was funny.

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