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Yale Scientists Link Covid Vaccines To Alarming New Syndrome With Long-Term Effects
Experts from Yale University have uncovered a new, concerning condition linked to the COVID-19 vaccines. Dubbed “Post-Vaccination Syndrome” (PVS), it not only comes with a host of uncomfortable symptoms—but it also causes persistent biological changes years after injection.
Not only that, the scientists also identified a troubling connection between PVS and the reactivation of a virus known as Epstein-Barr, a dormant agent that resides in most people and causes flu-like symptoms.
“This work is still in its early stages, and we need to validate these findings,” Dr. Akiko Iwasaki, the study’s author, said. “But this is giving us some hope that there may be something that we can use to treat PVS down the road.”
While the study has not been publishedin its entirety, its initial findings have been enough to scare and anger netizens.
“I can’t believe they forced us to take the shot without fully understanding its long-term effects,” one user wrote.
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Scientists discovered a new syndrome linked to the COVID-19 vaccines that causes persistent biological changes and chronic flu-like symptoms
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The findings are the result of research conducted on blood samples collected from 42 people diagnosed with the syndrome and comparing them to 22 control subjects who had the vaccine but had not experienced any post-jab symptoms.
The results showed that those with PVS had different proportions of immune cells compared to the control group, as well as elevated levels of COVID spike proteins years after being vaccinated.
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These proteins were also found in 134 subjects who contracted coronavirus and suffered from it for a long period of time.
The similarities didn’t end there, however, as both groups showed a reactivated Epstein-Barr virus, meaning that patients with PVS were adversely affected by the vaccine and might continue to have their health compromised for years to come.
“That was surprising to find spike protein in circulation at such a late time point,” Dr. Iwasaki said.
Patients suffering from PVS reported experiencing fever, dizziness, and brain fog years after receiving their coronavirus shots
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For many patients, the symptoms of PVS have been life-altering. Such is the case of 32-year-old Sascha Schwartz, a care worker from Germany, who has been fighting the symptoms of the syndrome ever since he was administered an AstraZeneca vaccine.
“I’ve never felt such stark helplessness and powerlessness as I have over the last two years. I feel trapped in my own body and have the feeling that I no longer exist,” Schwartz said in an interview.
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Fever, dizziness, and constant headaches became a part of his daily routine. The worst, he said, is a “brain fog” that makes it impossible for him to concentrate.
“You go on autopilot. It’s like being drained of vitality. It’s like you’re in a stupor, where stimuli no longer register, and you feel electricity in your head,” he shared.
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Making matters worse was the dismissal of several doctors who, according to him, swatted away his complaints as “psychosomatic,” or the product of mental stress.
“It took me six months to find an immunologist who would take me and my complaints seriously,” he recounted, remembering how doctors told him countless times: “This can’t be; the vaccines are safe.”
AstraZeneca was forced to formally admit that their vaccine could, in rare cases, trigger an illness that results in permanent brain damage
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The refusal to face the possibility that COVID vaccines came with long-lasting side effects for some people is nothing new for Kate Scott, the representative of a UK group called Vaccine Injured and Bereaved (VIBUK).
“We were pushed into the shadows during the pandemic,” she told the BBC.
“We are an uncomfortable truth, but we are a truth and the truth is for everyone in our group—the vaccine caused serious harm and death.”
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The mother-of-two took matters into her own hands after her husband, Jamie Scott, was left severely disabled by what was confirmed to be Vaccine-Induced Thrombocytopenia and Thrombosis (VITT), causing permanent brain damage.
The Scott family sued AstraZeneca in August 2023, and, as a result, the pharmaceutical company was forced to admit in February 2024 that its COVID vaccine “can, in very rare cases, cause VITT.”
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The Health Secretary of the United Kingdom, Wes Streeting, took notice of the matter and personally met with Kate, as well as two other women whose relatives were adversely affected by the vaccine, in September 2024.
Streeting is currently working on reforming the country’s Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme (VDPS), in order to better help those affected by the vaccine’s side effects.
The study’s authors urged doctors to not dismiss patient concerns and to listen to their experiences
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Dr. Harlan Krumholz, the co-senior author of the Yale study and a professor of medicine at Yale, urged a cautious approach to interpreting the findings but acknowledged the severity of the challenges some individuals face after vaccination.
“It’s clear that some individuals are experiencing significant challenges after vaccination,” he mentioned. “Our responsibility as scientists and clinicians is to listen to their experiences, rigorously investigate the underlying causes, and seek ways to help.”
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On the other hand, Dr. Paul Offit, a vaccine expert at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, spoke with the Daily Mail to defend the injections, emphasizing that they remain safe for the vast majority of people.
“The vaccines have been given to billions of people at this point, and there were large prospective placebo-controlled studies that didn’t show these effects,” he said.
As for the Yale study, the next stages involve understanding how widespread PVS truly is and identifying who might be most at risk.
While the paper is still in its infancy, its findings underscore the importance of further investigation into post-vaccination symptoms.
Netizens were left feeling powerless and angry and took to social media to share their experiences
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“My coworker’s 28-year-old son has the heart of an eighty-year-old and cannot walk up more than five steps without stopping to rest for about 3-5 minutes to catch his breath,” one user wrote.
“I’m a 72-year-old who runs 5K regularly without difficulty. My stamina has now gone since Covid. I struggle to run and get breathless and tired very easily. This has nothing to do with age,” another shared.
“I got most of the above symptoms and my life has deteriorated so badly. I try most things to negate the damage, but who knows how much damage has actually been done?!” one reader said.
“Most of us already knew this, as evidence from independent studies showed this to be the case over and over again,” another argued.
“But if anyone even dared to mention it to the media, they were called ‘conspiracy theorists.’”
“Heartbreaking.” People were shocked by the study’s findings and sympathized with the suffering of patients with PVS
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Justin Everett (Tehashi) 9 months ago
Yeah, the writing of this article is sus and seems very anti-vax biased. I'm going to wait until i see something from a non clickbait centric website to believe anything ab out this.
LilliVB 9 months ago
I agree. If I'm reading something about it on a respectable trustworthy scientific/medical magazine/website (something like the Lancet or the New England journal of medicine) I know it's probably true. Here, not so much
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Jennifer Clayton 9 months ago
The study is tiny, hasn't been published, peer-reviewed, or replicated. Very irresponsible reporting. BP is becoming trash for articles like this.
Binky Melnik 9 months ago
And anyone reporting it will simply make the anti-vax fools that much more certain they’ré doing the right thing. Things like this bring out all the worst of the dummies. “I can’t believe they forced us to take the shot without fully understanding its long-term effects”: Yeah; we totally shoulda taken ten-twenty years to understand all the possible repercussions. At least we mightta knocked a big bunch of dummies out.
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Forrest Hobbs 9 months ago
BP, I'm astonished that you're promoting this sort of conspiracy theory nonsense. It's a Daily Mail article citing a small study which hasn't been peer reviewed and so cannot be relied on. Even so, the Daily Mail article does quote a researcher who points out that the study in question actually demonstrates the vaccines were safe: "The vaccines have been given to billions of people at this point, and there were large prospective placebo-controlled studies that didn't show these effects. 'As the vaccines were rolled out, not everyone got them at once... and this staggering would tell you if something is a problem that was not picked up in clinical trials.'" - so, whatever effects the small unreviewed study has detected isn't a problem caused by the vaccines. BP, shame on you! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14414367/covid-vaccines-new-syndrome-biological-changes-yale.html
Lorraine Logie 7 months ago
You do know that the vaccine used was not the same as the one initially trialled? The one originally trialled was made using Process 1, a much more expensive process than the Process 2 that was used to manufacture the vaccine that was rolled, after being trialled on only around 250 people, with no means of assessing long term risks as they destroyed the control group by vaccinating them. It's called bait and switch.
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rainy_days (fae/faer) 9 months ago
Eh. The Covid vaccine did worsen my migraines a lot, but I'd rather that than be dead or passing on covid to someone more vulnerable who could have died. Yeah they didn't have time to test it fully but that was already known at the time of the vaccine. The vaccine was the lesser of two evils as far as i'm concerned, but the anti-vaxx crew doesn't seem to understand that nuance
Grenelda Thurber 9 months ago
This. No vaccine is without risk, but you have to compare the risks. When you compare the risk of not getting the vaccine to the risk of a bad reaction to the vaccine, the numbers clearly show the risk of not getting vaccinated is so much larger that no sane (healthy) person wouldn't get vaccinated.
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BoredLittleLeafSheep 9 months ago
The sample size of the study was far too small to be of any real scientific value. Additionally, there are always going to be people who have negative reactions, whether it is a vaccine, a prescribed medication, or an over-the-counter d**g. This is irresponsible "writing".
Craig S. (EvilSausage) 9 months ago
Exactly! Side effects are a risk you take when you ingest any medication. But if a few dozen get them out of millions who took the shot, then that's actually quite safe.
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Rick Murray 9 months ago
Given who Trump has picked as the secretary of health, I'm sure we can expect a lot more of this sort of nonsense. For what it's worth this is the first year I've not had a Covid vaccination, and that's because the pharmacy didn't have a slot so they asked me to phone up the following week. Uh, no. I kept procrastinating and before you know it, spring is already on the way. Apart from picking up random 5G signals and these two really cute little antennae that have sprouted from the top of my head, I'm fine. Nothing to worry about.
Heir of Durin 9 months ago
Agreed! We should make a new website and cut ties with this crappy excuse for an online social club.
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Nova Rook 9 months ago
BP is going Maga/RFK. Maybe time to start looking for an alternative. Anyone had any suggestions?
Jan Willem ten Dam 9 months ago (edited)
The Daily Mail has a reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism, and flat-out fabrication.
Stephen Lyford 9 months ago
Very small patient sample, and only referring to ONE vaccine, and one that wasn't as widely used. This smacks of clickbait and stirring up fears. To those of you who are anti-vaccine, I will applaud your choice at your funerals.
Margaret Shannon 9 months ago
In general, I’m better off alive even with the vanishingly small risk of side effects.
Craig S. (EvilSausage) 9 months ago (edited)
64 test subjects? And the study isn't peer reviewed? What kind of happy horseshit is this? Oh and I looked up Dr. Iwasaki's research on my own. And according to her findings, most of the recipients of the vaccine suffered no side effects. And as for those who did? Well I hate to break it to you, but many medications have the risk of side effects. And they're approved anyway if a majority of patients don't don't suffer from any side effects.
BoredLittleLeafSheep 9 months ago
Exactly! Have you ever listened to a pharmaceutical commercial? "This d**g for (insert medical issue here) can cause infection, tuberculosis, cancer, taint rot, and even death".
Load More Replies... Heir of Durin 9 months ago
Wtf!?!? Great job spreading unpublished s**t all over, BP. This is ridiculous. Thanks for making an already difficult situation even worse. I think it’s time we all part ways with BP. You’ve crossed the line here as far as I’m concerned. 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
Mike F 9 months ago
I personally get my jab every year. I don't give a 💩 what those smooth brained idiots are peddling, I don't want to die after days or weeks as an intubated vegetable.
CAROL 9 months ago
Instead, you want others to follow your lead into an early grave? How irresponsible of you.
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Aballi 9 months ago
As others have written, this is a small, ongoing study that has NOT been peer reviewed and proves nothing. The reports are anecdotal, and it is irresponsible of BP to publish them as fact. The scientific method exists for a reason. Without it, one could “prove” that walking causes hair loss, using a toothbrush leads to an early death, and any other number of ridiculous theories. The truth is, vaccines save lives.
Curry on... 9 months ago
Small sample, but enough to get folks raising a stink. This does sound suspect, like maybe coming from a certain anti-vax politician. Here I am, along with family and friends, and no adverse affects. How do they account for people like us?
Parmeisan 9 months ago
"I can’t believe they forced us to take the shot without fully understanding its long-term effects" - yeah, you know what else we didn't fully understand? The long-term effects of Covid. Covid was killing people, and what we knew of long Covid was also real bad. Anybody who didn't jump at the chance to take the vaccine was an idiot and I stand by that assessment. Some small percentage of people might have had a side effect? Goodness gracious, that's unheard of! As long as the vaccine gives you better odds than the disease, and you don't have some contraindication, taking the frikken vaccine.
Lorraine Logie 7 months ago
The average age of death from covid was around 83. Millions of elderly people and younger disabled people died due to returning the sick to care facilities, illegal and blanket DNR orders, withholding of medical care, food, water and loving care and attention, medications hastening end of life without even assessing whether the individual might recover from covid. Even Sweden admitted they got it wrong with regards to their treatment of the elderly. Obesity and age were the biggest factors in outcomes from covid. If you want to get pissed off, try being pissed at our so called health leaders who abandoned all protocols for epidemics/pandemics and destroyed people's lives and economies. All reported on by Amnesty International and other organisations, btw.
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LizzieBoredom 9 months ago
FOX News, BoredPanda....so is it only animal related websites spreading vaccine misinformation?
SlightlyTarnished 9 months ago
This is how conspiracy theorists get their facts, BP "journalism"........
Lori T Wisconsin 9 months ago
Right wing BS. How many non vaxxed DIED FROM COVID? How do they know these people were harmed by the vaccine and not the actual virus?
SkippityBoppityBoo 9 months ago (edited)
This BP article has made me so angry. I had Covid and Spinal Bruising plus other severe injuries. I did technically die twice in the ambulance, my heart stopped and they used the paddles on me. I've still the faint scars on my chest. So F**K YOU BP for spreading misinformation about the vaccines and adding fuel to the Anti-Vaxxer nonsense fire. 42 people? Out of how many millions of people now who have had the vaccine with NO side effects? 42 people as a subject sample is Not A Big Enough Sample Size......... Morons.
Lorraine Logie 7 months ago
It sounds like you had a terrible time. Now imagine how those who "did the right thing" feel after the death of their life partner, father, mother, sister, or child, or losing limbs or being deemed unfit to work but not sufficiently disabled to receive any compensation, after receiving their vaccines. The trials never assessed whether one person's vaccination made no difference to the other person's outcomes. Natural immunity was denied. It should have been a choice, and perhaps those tragedies would have still occurred, but they should all be supported, not ignored and left to struggle in pain and debt. So many nations reported more excess deaths and increases in disability after the vaccine than they ever did during 2020. We need to know why so it doesn't happen again. I hope you're fully recovered.
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Doormeetass 9 months ago
Anyone who reads BP for its scientific journalism most likely also gets their news from tiktok
Anna Drever 9 months ago
I’ve had every single vaccination available to me for Covid, because I cannot afford to get sick again. I have fibromyalgia and viruses worsen it. And as a study of one (I know I’m not everybody and I’m aware that a small percentage of folks react to some vaccines) I’ve only ever had the expected sore arm and felt a bit poorly for 48 hours and then back to normal. My most recent vaccination for Covid was about 10 days ago and no side effects thus far.
Shelly Thibodeau 9 months ago
There is just something about this that feels suspect. It's a very small number of participants and we already know that vaccines carry risks for some people, this just seems to be creating a panic when none is needed.
Surly Scot 9 months ago
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.02.18.25322379v1.full-text actual link to the study. The study is small and needs expanded, but it was conducted by Yale School of Medicine, so it's not some b*llshit from some terrible lab somewhere. 42 participants, 22 used as controls - i've seen studies with less subjects and the results were still taken seriously. I don't see this article as anti-vax bias (i'm not an anti-vaxxer), I see it identifying the people who fell through the gaps and had a negative effect from it, which some people will have to any of the medications on the planet. No need to deride this because it doesn't fit with peoples narrative or they can't stop seeing anti-vaxxers everywhere. It's a study, performed by scientists and educated individuals in a proper setting. We need more of these studies in every direction.
Kevguy 9 months ago
The study is useful and needed. Every medical intervention has risks and finding out about possible (and from the study, very very rare) risks are is good. But this BP article is a heavily slanted anti-vax load of c**p. Some of the social media examples even say their problems were post-covid infection, not post-vaccine. We definitely need both sides, but this article ain't it.
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Joanne Earle 9 months ago
I'm not anti vax. I got the shingles vax a couple years ago and often get the flu shot. And of course all the childhood ones and the occasional tetanus if needed. That said, i was not doing the covid one. No how, no way. So many friends who got both main covid shots and all the boosters STILL got covid. It was pointless. We did catch it in very late 2019 when we got home from the florida theme parks, mid Dec 2019. Covidd wasn't a 'thing' yet but it was being talked about on the news a little. I was never so sick and the meds given to me for pneumonia didn't help for days. My doctor admitted months later that i was definitely one of the first covid cases going into 2020. i didn't get the shots. Once quarantine was lifted, we resumed our road tripping around the USA the past few years and apart from the occasional head cold, we've been fine.
James King 9 months ago
As soon as I saw the title I knew what the comments would be like. A whole lot of people STILL don't seem to realize that the shot won't keep you from getting or spreading Covid. You people do realize it was the freakin' heads of the pharmaceutical companies that testified to that, right?
TotallyNOTAFox 9 months ago (edited)
This is absolutley correct, the vaccine doesn't prevent an infection but lowers the risks and lessens the symptoms. A point that often had to be explained to the real anti-vaxxers
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Freelove 9 months ago
“'I can’t believe they forced us to take the shot without fully understanding its long-term effects,' one user wrote." Sorry that time machines and crystal balls didn't exist to check out the long-term effects of a BRAND NEW vaccine? I feel for these people, I really do, but I will never not be proud that I got the vaccine to protect myself and others from a virus that killed millions of people and brought the entire planet to a stop. IT WAS FOR THE GREATER GOOD WHICH IS A CONCEPT LOST ON A VERY SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE.
Mike Goslin 9 months ago
Here's the study if you want to review it yourself. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.02.18.25322379v1.full-text
MrsWood 9 months ago
Right wing talking points and misinformation is it now Bored Panda? I'll be off then.
James King 9 months ago
99.99999999% of the articles and commentors on this garbage site either lean Left or are so far Left they make AOC look like a Republican. So yeah, let that 0.00000001% of the articles chase you off. That'll show all those people that think exactly as you do what's what!
Load More Replies... Plant Wizard 9 months ago
so many questions from this. Does not seem like a well run study to me rather a rush to prove something without a lot of science in it. Most important. 1. Did they determine if its just one manufacturers vaccine? some are the new RNA type and others are more conventional. Nothing on that in the report. If its one manufacturer then its important to determine that and ensure that people using that 'brand' are checked everyone else is most likely OK. 2. A sample of 42? that is not significant a large study group is needed. 3. Did they rule out all other factors or just assume its the vaccine? there are so many other factors that happened during the pandemic. Its important to rule those out before jumping to conclusions. Where did these guys learn their science? These factors were drilled into us when I was a student many years ago. Now it seems so many ignore good science practice to rush out and print something.
nicholas nolan 9 months ago
This was from one vaccine, by Astrazenica, that did NOT use the mRNA technology used in the widely used Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Which are safe and effective.
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Cpt. Christan "Panda Bombero" 9 months ago
Seriously, Bored Panda used to be full of sardonically humorous stories. Lately I feel like I am seeing a whole lot of more stories that your heard about being posted on Reddit, 4Chan, 8Chan, Return of Kings, Daily Mail, New York Post, Fox News, Newsmax, One America News, etc. Just stop.
Angelshark 9 months ago
The conspiracy theorists are already foaming at the mouth thinking that Trump being elected somehow validates all their fears. This unverified balony is just going to pour fuel on that trash-fire.
Wendy Herman 9 months ago
BP should stick to sad tales of relationships gone wrong. At least that way, they wouldn't be endangering anyone's long-term health. That's the risk posed by posting info on studies that haven't even been peer-reviewed.
Joe Bloe 9 months ago
What a great example of confirmation bias. Putting aside any point that goes against your predeterminated conclusion, only seeking what validate it and putting aside anything that goes against... The covid AND the vaccine, both could have side effects, sometimes very bad. You can never predict how it will go. We know for sure how the long effect of covid affect people, years later we find some negative effects, usualy from unconclusive, early studies that haven't been peer reviewed. Antivaxx lies have been published for decades, covid didn't change anything, but vaccines usefulness is without a doubt proven.
Forrest Hobbs 9 months ago
Joe Bloe, the thing about the vaccines is that they were all tested very thoroughly. The tests did enable predications to be made: the vaccines were proven by testing to pose little risk, and were proven by testing to provide very effective protection against dying from covid-19.
Load More Replies... brandyy17 9 months ago
i only got the very first one. my doctor actually strongly suggested not getting anymore after pushing so hard to get the first one. it was 4 years ago but i still get random muscle twitches where i got the shot. i was very hesititant to get the first one cuz my friend got it and it triggered his epilepsy. i m also epileptic so it horrified me. wen my doctor said me getting covid would b worse i thought about it and finally gave in. my husband also get the same muscle twitch as i do. in the end i ended up getting covid being asymtomatic and had a seizure. last year i got it a 2nd time asymtomatic again but multiple petit mal seizures and just massive anxeity waiting for the grand mal. i dont go out alot so no idea how i got it the first time but 2nd time i suspect it was at my cousins big city wedding. i have been living in fear of covid cuz both times i was asymptomatic and for all i kno i couldve had it more then twice just no seizures. vaccine doesnt do sh!t. my fil got the first and boosters and hes had covid 5 times. im by no means an anti vaxxer but the covid one if all my doctors r suggesting against it im gonna trust them cuz that means theres deff some sort of danger. i dont trust these articles cuz they can b blown way out of proportion and target an anti vaxxer audience but doctors i do trust. not to mention small studies can help with some things but bc they r small they cant b very valid cuz all ppl involved could have something about them that triggers bad effects. if they did a large study and found it was still happening then ok thats concerning but ya small studies dont prove anything. theres also the fact its bored panda i came here for funny lists and interesting reddit post stuff not for a news source.
roddy 9 months ago
The unprofessional presentation here aside, this is a genuine study undertaken at Yale University, which is a respectable institution. Given the complexity of the human body, (there are people who are allergic to water ffs) it would be a miracle if any mass treatment did not have a percentage of people who developed unanticipated reactions. Not to mention the occasional human error in manufacture, storage, and administration of any injection. I wonder if we will ever know to what degree the vaccine slowed the spread of the virus (assuming it did, as everyone I know who had the vaccine, including myself, all caught covid anyway). It would be nice to know it was worth the permanent damage to the people who had bad reactions to it. This includes a young member of my own family who now has Epstein-Barr and Kawasaki disease.
Craig S. (EvilSausage) 9 months ago
Why yes, Yale is a respected institution. And the sample size was tiny, the study isn't peer reviewed, and it doesn't even say what the article says it says. So what's your point?
Load More Replies... TotallyNOTAFox 9 months ago (edited)
I want to point out that the article is specifically about AstraZeneca, anybody half way informed knew even back then that it had higher risks than other vaccines. That's why it was suspended from further use here in Germany. It's an article about a faulty product from a company and not vaccines in general
Forrest Hobbs 9 months ago
TotallyNOTAFox: no-one had reliable data about the comparative risks of the different covid-19 vaccines when they were rolled out. The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine was the second covid-19 vaccine approved in the UK so naturally no-one could have much of a clue about the risks it posed. It was incredibly effective, saved countless lives, and was never remotely faulty. The risks of taking it were tiny as with all vaccines approved for use in humans, although it's true it came in for a lot of unjustified criticism. It's been discontinued because it's now less effective than it used to be due to covid-19 mutating - and because while the risks of taking it are tiny, they're still slightly greater than other vaccines which remain effective against the mutated covid-19 variants. Also, you can't blame AstraZeneca for any of it, because the vaccine was designed by Oxford University's Jenner Institute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenner_Institute.
Load More Replies... Becky Samuel 9 months ago
I am very far from anti-vax, but the Covid vaccine works in a completely different way to any previous vaccines, and having a rabid, knee-jerk reaction to anyone who suggests that it could have been a bad idea is not helpful. I agree, this study proves nothing, but good science cannot be done when people behave like this. Keep an open mind rather than tear into those with genuine concerns. I am currently awaiting a heart operation in an attempt to reverse the damage done by these injections. Just as many people are contracting Covid as ever did, the reason the mortality rate has dropped so much is mostly because the treatment regime has improved. Feel free to go on the attack over my position, but ask yourself whether you feel this way because it is your genuine opinion, or whether the media and governments have whipped you into a frenzy of lumping people who are sceptical of this product with all antivaxxers.
Forrest Hobbs 9 months ago (edited)
Prior to covid-19 vaccinations, it was killing people and putting people in intensive care. Most of those who survived that have since been vaccinated. The reason covid-19 isn't killing people at the original rate has nothing to do with improved care and everything to do with three things: the most vulnerable got killed by it, those who didn't have almost all been vaccinated, and the disease itself has mutated. If I'd not had "these injections", there's a good chance I'd've ended up in intensive care when the bug got me - with an equally good chance of not surviving at all. Ask yourself why you're spreading this anti-vaccine nonsense about the reason covid-19 isn't killing people at the rate that it did, and why you are using emotionally loaded language like "media and governments have whipped you into a frenzy".
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LizzieBoredom 9 months ago
Fauci should have his cute little face on Mt. Rushmore.
Load More Replies... Justin Everett (Tehashi) 9 months ago
Yeah, the writing of this article is sus and seems very anti-vax biased. I'm going to wait until i see something from a non clickbait centric website to believe anything ab out this.
LilliVB 9 months ago
I agree. If I'm reading something about it on a respectable trustworthy scientific/medical magazine/website (something like the Lancet or the New England journal of medicine) I know it's probably true. Here, not so much
Load More Replies... Jennifer Clayton 9 months ago
The study is tiny, hasn't been published, peer-reviewed, or replicated. Very irresponsible reporting. BP is becoming trash for articles like this.
Binky Melnik 9 months ago
And anyone reporting it will simply make the anti-vax fools that much more certain they’ré doing the right thing. Things like this bring out all the worst of the dummies. “I can’t believe they forced us to take the shot without fully understanding its long-term effects”: Yeah; we totally shoulda taken ten-twenty years to understand all the possible repercussions. At least we mightta knocked a big bunch of dummies out.
Load More Replies... Forrest Hobbs 9 months ago
BP, I'm astonished that you're promoting this sort of conspiracy theory nonsense. It's a Daily Mail article citing a small study which hasn't been peer reviewed and so cannot be relied on. Even so, the Daily Mail article does quote a researcher who points out that the study in question actually demonstrates the vaccines were safe: "The vaccines have been given to billions of people at this point, and there were large prospective placebo-controlled studies that didn't show these effects. 'As the vaccines were rolled out, not everyone got them at once... and this staggering would tell you if something is a problem that was not picked up in clinical trials.'" - so, whatever effects the small unreviewed study has detected isn't a problem caused by the vaccines. BP, shame on you! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14414367/covid-vaccines-new-syndrome-biological-changes-yale.html
Lorraine Logie 7 months ago
You do know that the vaccine used was not the same as the one initially trialled? The one originally trialled was made using Process 1, a much more expensive process than the Process 2 that was used to manufacture the vaccine that was rolled, after being trialled on only around 250 people, with no means of assessing long term risks as they destroyed the control group by vaccinating them. It's called bait and switch.
Load More Replies... rainy_days (fae/faer) 9 months ago
Eh. The Covid vaccine did worsen my migraines a lot, but I'd rather that than be dead or passing on covid to someone more vulnerable who could have died. Yeah they didn't have time to test it fully but that was already known at the time of the vaccine. The vaccine was the lesser of two evils as far as i'm concerned, but the anti-vaxx crew doesn't seem to understand that nuance
Grenelda Thurber 9 months ago
This. No vaccine is without risk, but you have to compare the risks. When you compare the risk of not getting the vaccine to the risk of a bad reaction to the vaccine, the numbers clearly show the risk of not getting vaccinated is so much larger that no sane (healthy) person wouldn't get vaccinated.
Load More Replies... BoredLittleLeafSheep 9 months ago
The sample size of the study was far too small to be of any real scientific value. Additionally, there are always going to be people who have negative reactions, whether it is a vaccine, a prescribed medication, or an over-the-counter d**g. This is irresponsible "writing".
Craig S. (EvilSausage) 9 months ago
Exactly! Side effects are a risk you take when you ingest any medication. But if a few dozen get them out of millions who took the shot, then that's actually quite safe.
Load More Replies... Rick Murray 9 months ago
Given who Trump has picked as the secretary of health, I'm sure we can expect a lot more of this sort of nonsense. For what it's worth this is the first year I've not had a Covid vaccination, and that's because the pharmacy didn't have a slot so they asked me to phone up the following week. Uh, no. I kept procrastinating and before you know it, spring is already on the way. Apart from picking up random 5G signals and these two really cute little antennae that have sprouted from the top of my head, I'm fine. Nothing to worry about.
Heir of Durin 9 months ago
Agreed! We should make a new website and cut ties with this crappy excuse for an online social club.
Load More Replies... Nova Rook 9 months ago
BP is going Maga/RFK. Maybe time to start looking for an alternative. Anyone had any suggestions?
Jan Willem ten Dam 9 months ago (edited)
The Daily Mail has a reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism, and flat-out fabrication.
Stephen Lyford 9 months ago
Very small patient sample, and only referring to ONE vaccine, and one that wasn't as widely used. This smacks of clickbait and stirring up fears. To those of you who are anti-vaccine, I will applaud your choice at your funerals.
Margaret Shannon 9 months ago
In general, I’m better off alive even with the vanishingly small risk of side effects.
Craig S. (EvilSausage) 9 months ago (edited)
64 test subjects? And the study isn't peer reviewed? What kind of happy horseshit is this? Oh and I looked up Dr. Iwasaki's research on my own. And according to her findings, most of the recipients of the vaccine suffered no side effects. And as for those who did? Well I hate to break it to you, but many medications have the risk of side effects. And they're approved anyway if a majority of patients don't don't suffer from any side effects.
BoredLittleLeafSheep 9 months ago
Exactly! Have you ever listened to a pharmaceutical commercial? "This d**g for (insert medical issue here) can cause infection, tuberculosis, cancer, taint rot, and even death".
Load More Replies... Heir of Durin 9 months ago
Wtf!?!? Great job spreading unpublished s**t all over, BP. This is ridiculous. Thanks for making an already difficult situation even worse. I think it’s time we all part ways with BP. You’ve crossed the line here as far as I’m concerned. 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
Mike F 9 months ago
I personally get my jab every year. I don't give a 💩 what those smooth brained idiots are peddling, I don't want to die after days or weeks as an intubated vegetable.
CAROL 9 months ago
Instead, you want others to follow your lead into an early grave? How irresponsible of you.
Load More Replies... Aballi 9 months ago
As others have written, this is a small, ongoing study that has NOT been peer reviewed and proves nothing. The reports are anecdotal, and it is irresponsible of BP to publish them as fact. The scientific method exists for a reason. Without it, one could “prove” that walking causes hair loss, using a toothbrush leads to an early death, and any other number of ridiculous theories. The truth is, vaccines save lives.
Curry on... 9 months ago
Small sample, but enough to get folks raising a stink. This does sound suspect, like maybe coming from a certain anti-vax politician. Here I am, along with family and friends, and no adverse affects. How do they account for people like us?
Parmeisan 9 months ago
"I can’t believe they forced us to take the shot without fully understanding its long-term effects" - yeah, you know what else we didn't fully understand? The long-term effects of Covid. Covid was killing people, and what we knew of long Covid was also real bad. Anybody who didn't jump at the chance to take the vaccine was an idiot and I stand by that assessment. Some small percentage of people might have had a side effect? Goodness gracious, that's unheard of! As long as the vaccine gives you better odds than the disease, and you don't have some contraindication, taking the frikken vaccine.
Lorraine Logie 7 months ago
The average age of death from covid was around 83. Millions of elderly people and younger disabled people died due to returning the sick to care facilities, illegal and blanket DNR orders, withholding of medical care, food, water and loving care and attention, medications hastening end of life without even assessing whether the individual might recover from covid. Even Sweden admitted they got it wrong with regards to their treatment of the elderly. Obesity and age were the biggest factors in outcomes from covid. If you want to get pissed off, try being pissed at our so called health leaders who abandoned all protocols for epidemics/pandemics and destroyed people's lives and economies. All reported on by Amnesty International and other organisations, btw.
Load More Replies... LizzieBoredom 9 months ago
FOX News, BoredPanda....so is it only animal related websites spreading vaccine misinformation?
SlightlyTarnished 9 months ago
This is how conspiracy theorists get their facts, BP "journalism"........
Lori T Wisconsin 9 months ago
Right wing BS. How many non vaxxed DIED FROM COVID? How do they know these people were harmed by the vaccine and not the actual virus?
SkippityBoppityBoo 9 months ago (edited)
This BP article has made me so angry. I had Covid and Spinal Bruising plus other severe injuries. I did technically die twice in the ambulance, my heart stopped and they used the paddles on me. I've still the faint scars on my chest. So F**K YOU BP for spreading misinformation about the vaccines and adding fuel to the Anti-Vaxxer nonsense fire. 42 people? Out of how many millions of people now who have had the vaccine with NO side effects? 42 people as a subject sample is Not A Big Enough Sample Size......... Morons.
Lorraine Logie 7 months ago
It sounds like you had a terrible time. Now imagine how those who "did the right thing" feel after the death of their life partner, father, mother, sister, or child, or losing limbs or being deemed unfit to work but not sufficiently disabled to receive any compensation, after receiving their vaccines. The trials never assessed whether one person's vaccination made no difference to the other person's outcomes. Natural immunity was denied. It should have been a choice, and perhaps those tragedies would have still occurred, but they should all be supported, not ignored and left to struggle in pain and debt. So many nations reported more excess deaths and increases in disability after the vaccine than they ever did during 2020. We need to know why so it doesn't happen again. I hope you're fully recovered.
Load More Replies... Doormeetass 9 months ago
Anyone who reads BP for its scientific journalism most likely also gets their news from tiktok
Anna Drever 9 months ago
I’ve had every single vaccination available to me for Covid, because I cannot afford to get sick again. I have fibromyalgia and viruses worsen it. And as a study of one (I know I’m not everybody and I’m aware that a small percentage of folks react to some vaccines) I’ve only ever had the expected sore arm and felt a bit poorly for 48 hours and then back to normal. My most recent vaccination for Covid was about 10 days ago and no side effects thus far.
Shelly Thibodeau 9 months ago
There is just something about this that feels suspect. It's a very small number of participants and we already know that vaccines carry risks for some people, this just seems to be creating a panic when none is needed.
Surly Scot 9 months ago
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.02.18.25322379v1.full-text actual link to the study. The study is small and needs expanded, but it was conducted by Yale School of Medicine, so it's not some b*llshit from some terrible lab somewhere. 42 participants, 22 used as controls - i've seen studies with less subjects and the results were still taken seriously. I don't see this article as anti-vax bias (i'm not an anti-vaxxer), I see it identifying the people who fell through the gaps and had a negative effect from it, which some people will have to any of the medications on the planet. No need to deride this because it doesn't fit with peoples narrative or they can't stop seeing anti-vaxxers everywhere. It's a study, performed by scientists and educated individuals in a proper setting. We need more of these studies in every direction.
Kevguy 9 months ago
The study is useful and needed. Every medical intervention has risks and finding out about possible (and from the study, very very rare) risks are is good. But this BP article is a heavily slanted anti-vax load of c**p. Some of the social media examples even say their problems were post-covid infection, not post-vaccine. We definitely need both sides, but this article ain't it.
Load More Replies... Joanne Earle 9 months ago
I'm not anti vax. I got the shingles vax a couple years ago and often get the flu shot. And of course all the childhood ones and the occasional tetanus if needed. That said, i was not doing the covid one. No how, no way. So many friends who got both main covid shots and all the boosters STILL got covid. It was pointless. We did catch it in very late 2019 when we got home from the florida theme parks, mid Dec 2019. Covidd wasn't a 'thing' yet but it was being talked about on the news a little. I was never so sick and the meds given to me for pneumonia didn't help for days. My doctor admitted months later that i was definitely one of the first covid cases going into 2020. i didn't get the shots. Once quarantine was lifted, we resumed our road tripping around the USA the past few years and apart from the occasional head cold, we've been fine.
James King 9 months ago
As soon as I saw the title I knew what the comments would be like. A whole lot of people STILL don't seem to realize that the shot won't keep you from getting or spreading Covid. You people do realize it was the freakin' heads of the pharmaceutical companies that testified to that, right?
TotallyNOTAFox 9 months ago (edited)
This is absolutley correct, the vaccine doesn't prevent an infection but lowers the risks and lessens the symptoms. A point that often had to be explained to the real anti-vaxxers
Load More Replies... Freelove 9 months ago
“'I can’t believe they forced us to take the shot without fully understanding its long-term effects,' one user wrote." Sorry that time machines and crystal balls didn't exist to check out the long-term effects of a BRAND NEW vaccine? I feel for these people, I really do, but I will never not be proud that I got the vaccine to protect myself and others from a virus that killed millions of people and brought the entire planet to a stop. IT WAS FOR THE GREATER GOOD WHICH IS A CONCEPT LOST ON A VERY SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE.
Mike Goslin 9 months ago
Here's the study if you want to review it yourself. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.02.18.25322379v1.full-text
MrsWood 9 months ago
Right wing talking points and misinformation is it now Bored Panda? I'll be off then.
James King 9 months ago
99.99999999% of the articles and commentors on this garbage site either lean Left or are so far Left they make AOC look like a Republican. So yeah, let that 0.00000001% of the articles chase you off. That'll show all those people that think exactly as you do what's what!
Load More Replies... Plant Wizard 9 months ago
so many questions from this. Does not seem like a well run study to me rather a rush to prove something without a lot of science in it. Most important. 1. Did they determine if its just one manufacturers vaccine? some are the new RNA type and others are more conventional. Nothing on that in the report. If its one manufacturer then its important to determine that and ensure that people using that 'brand' are checked everyone else is most likely OK. 2. A sample of 42? that is not significant a large study group is needed. 3. Did they rule out all other factors or just assume its the vaccine? there are so many other factors that happened during the pandemic. Its important to rule those out before jumping to conclusions. Where did these guys learn their science? These factors were drilled into us when I was a student many years ago. Now it seems so many ignore good science practice to rush out and print something.
nicholas nolan 9 months ago
This was from one vaccine, by Astrazenica, that did NOT use the mRNA technology used in the widely used Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Which are safe and effective.
Load More Replies... Cpt. Christan "Panda Bombero" 9 months ago
Seriously, Bored Panda used to be full of sardonically humorous stories. Lately I feel like I am seeing a whole lot of more stories that your heard about being posted on Reddit, 4Chan, 8Chan, Return of Kings, Daily Mail, New York Post, Fox News, Newsmax, One America News, etc. Just stop.
Angelshark 9 months ago
The conspiracy theorists are already foaming at the mouth thinking that Trump being elected somehow validates all their fears. This unverified balony is just going to pour fuel on that trash-fire.
Wendy Herman 9 months ago
BP should stick to sad tales of relationships gone wrong. At least that way, they wouldn't be endangering anyone's long-term health. That's the risk posed by posting info on studies that haven't even been peer-reviewed.
Joe Bloe 9 months ago
What a great example of confirmation bias. Putting aside any point that goes against your predeterminated conclusion, only seeking what validate it and putting aside anything that goes against... The covid AND the vaccine, both could have side effects, sometimes very bad. You can never predict how it will go. We know for sure how the long effect of covid affect people, years later we find some negative effects, usualy from unconclusive, early studies that haven't been peer reviewed. Antivaxx lies have been published for decades, covid didn't change anything, but vaccines usefulness is without a doubt proven.
Forrest Hobbs 9 months ago
Joe Bloe, the thing about the vaccines is that they were all tested very thoroughly. The tests did enable predications to be made: the vaccines were proven by testing to pose little risk, and were proven by testing to provide very effective protection against dying from covid-19.
Load More Replies... brandyy17 9 months ago
i only got the very first one. my doctor actually strongly suggested not getting anymore after pushing so hard to get the first one. it was 4 years ago but i still get random muscle twitches where i got the shot. i was very hesititant to get the first one cuz my friend got it and it triggered his epilepsy. i m also epileptic so it horrified me. wen my doctor said me getting covid would b worse i thought about it and finally gave in. my husband also get the same muscle twitch as i do. in the end i ended up getting covid being asymtomatic and had a seizure. last year i got it a 2nd time asymtomatic again but multiple petit mal seizures and just massive anxeity waiting for the grand mal. i dont go out alot so no idea how i got it the first time but 2nd time i suspect it was at my cousins big city wedding. i have been living in fear of covid cuz both times i was asymptomatic and for all i kno i couldve had it more then twice just no seizures. vaccine doesnt do sh!t. my fil got the first and boosters and hes had covid 5 times. im by no means an anti vaxxer but the covid one if all my doctors r suggesting against it im gonna trust them cuz that means theres deff some sort of danger. i dont trust these articles cuz they can b blown way out of proportion and target an anti vaxxer audience but doctors i do trust. not to mention small studies can help with some things but bc they r small they cant b very valid cuz all ppl involved could have something about them that triggers bad effects. if they did a large study and found it was still happening then ok thats concerning but ya small studies dont prove anything. theres also the fact its bored panda i came here for funny lists and interesting reddit post stuff not for a news source.
roddy 9 months ago
The unprofessional presentation here aside, this is a genuine study undertaken at Yale University, which is a respectable institution. Given the complexity of the human body, (there are people who are allergic to water ffs) it would be a miracle if any mass treatment did not have a percentage of people who developed unanticipated reactions. Not to mention the occasional human error in manufacture, storage, and administration of any injection. I wonder if we will ever know to what degree the vaccine slowed the spread of the virus (assuming it did, as everyone I know who had the vaccine, including myself, all caught covid anyway). It would be nice to know it was worth the permanent damage to the people who had bad reactions to it. This includes a young member of my own family who now has Epstein-Barr and Kawasaki disease.
Craig S. (EvilSausage) 9 months ago
Why yes, Yale is a respected institution. And the sample size was tiny, the study isn't peer reviewed, and it doesn't even say what the article says it says. So what's your point?
Load More Replies... TotallyNOTAFox 9 months ago (edited)
I want to point out that the article is specifically about AstraZeneca, anybody half way informed knew even back then that it had higher risks than other vaccines. That's why it was suspended from further use here in Germany. It's an article about a faulty product from a company and not vaccines in general
Forrest Hobbs 9 months ago
TotallyNOTAFox: no-one had reliable data about the comparative risks of the different covid-19 vaccines when they were rolled out. The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine was the second covid-19 vaccine approved in the UK so naturally no-one could have much of a clue about the risks it posed. It was incredibly effective, saved countless lives, and was never remotely faulty. The risks of taking it were tiny as with all vaccines approved for use in humans, although it's true it came in for a lot of unjustified criticism. It's been discontinued because it's now less effective than it used to be due to covid-19 mutating - and because while the risks of taking it are tiny, they're still slightly greater than other vaccines which remain effective against the mutated covid-19 variants. Also, you can't blame AstraZeneca for any of it, because the vaccine was designed by Oxford University's Jenner Institute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenner_Institute.
Load More Replies... Becky Samuel 9 months ago
I am very far from anti-vax, but the Covid vaccine works in a completely different way to any previous vaccines, and having a rabid, knee-jerk reaction to anyone who suggests that it could have been a bad idea is not helpful. I agree, this study proves nothing, but good science cannot be done when people behave like this. Keep an open mind rather than tear into those with genuine concerns. I am currently awaiting a heart operation in an attempt to reverse the damage done by these injections. Just as many people are contracting Covid as ever did, the reason the mortality rate has dropped so much is mostly because the treatment regime has improved. Feel free to go on the attack over my position, but ask yourself whether you feel this way because it is your genuine opinion, or whether the media and governments have whipped you into a frenzy of lumping people who are sceptical of this product with all antivaxxers.
Forrest Hobbs 9 months ago (edited)
Prior to covid-19 vaccinations, it was killing people and putting people in intensive care. Most of those who survived that have since been vaccinated. The reason covid-19 isn't killing people at the original rate has nothing to do with improved care and everything to do with three things: the most vulnerable got killed by it, those who didn't have almost all been vaccinated, and the disease itself has mutated. If I'd not had "these injections", there's a good chance I'd've ended up in intensive care when the bug got me - with an equally good chance of not surviving at all. Ask yourself why you're spreading this anti-vaccine nonsense about the reason covid-19 isn't killing people at the rate that it did, and why you are using emotionally loaded language like "media and governments have whipped you into a frenzy".
Load More Replies... LizzieBoredom 9 months ago
Fauci should have his cute little face on Mt. Rushmore.
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