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Manager Gets A Dose Of Malicious Compliance After Penalizing Team For Working From Home
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Manager Gets A Dose Of Malicious Compliance After Penalizing Team For Working From Home

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Recently, an office worker turned to the Malicious Compliance subreddit to share an incident they had at work. “We have a hybrid policy, two days on site, three days WFH. We can’t pick the day we work from the office (this changes every month),” the Redditor explained.

The problem arose when one day, all three members of the author’s team decided to work from home due to a heavy workload. “Only time this has happened since the office opened a year ago,” they added.

Turns out, the manager was far from impressed with the team’s behavior so she sent a patronizing email telling them that she was counting this as not working that day. This is when the team had no choice but to maliciously comply.

A manager counts working from home as not a working day, team maliciously complies and takes their PTO, leaving all the work for her

Image credits: Vlada Karpovich (not the actual photo)

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Bored Panda reached out to Dr. Gleb Tsipursky, the CEO of the hybrid work consultancy Disaster Avoidance Experts and author of multiple best-selling books, to comment on this particular situation and find out what his advice for any employee in a similar position would be.

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“That’s certainly problematic behavior by the manager. It’s clear the manager is exhibiting a passive-aggressive style of management, both in her initial patronizing email and in her subsequent efforts to punish her employees,” Dr. Tsipursky told us.

“What I would suggest to the employees is to document the situation,” the CEO of Disaster Avoidance Experts said. “Keep a record of the instances where your manager has displayed passive-aggressive behavior and any negative impacts it has had on your work or well-being. This documentation can be useful if you need to escalate the situation to HR or a higher-level manager.”

Moreover, the situation is clearly unsustainable, Dr. Tsipursky said. “After documenting the situation, it’s important to use this documentation as a basis for scheduling a meeting with your manager to discuss the situation and express your concerns about their behavior. Explain how it is impacting your work and well-being, and try to find a solution that benefits both parties.”

According to Dr. Tsipursky, if your manager’s behavior persists, consider involving HR and/or senior management. “They can mediate a conversation between you and your manager, provide guidance and support, and help resolve the issue. The senior management already clearly intervened to change the unreasonable and unfair policy on PTO.”

“Finally,” Dr. Tsipursky continued, “if the situation is untenable and continues to have a negative impact on your work or well-being, you may need to consider seeking alternative employment that better aligns with your needs, and where they adopt best practices in hybrid and remote work.”

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And this is what people thought about this whole situation, sharing their own experiences. Leave us your thoughts in the comments below!

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arao_91 avatar
White Sauce Hot Sauce
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For these types of managers, it's less about having a productive workforce, and more about lording this type of control over people in order to justify their employment.

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John G
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep. My company has insisted that people come in now 3 days a week. Even when shown that productivity was up with WFH. I have a short commute, but know people that it is now costing a substantial time to commute. I think I would just take it out of my 8h.

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Stacia
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Serves her right. She's at the wrong company then. My department still lets us WFH on the days we choose. As long as the work is getting done they don't care.

censorshipsucks12 avatar
censorshipsucks
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ohoh? So WFH is PTO? OK. Then I won't answer my phone or email AT ALL during PTO or weekends.

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SealOfDisapproval
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been working from home since the pandemic started. I am both happier and more productive.

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RossJones
Community Member
1 year ago

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I am making $92 an hour working from home. I never imagined that it was honest to goodness yet my closest companion is earning $16,000 a month by working on a laptop, that was truly astounding for me, she prescribed for me to attempt it simply. Everybody must try this job now by just using this website....................... 𝐖𝐰𝐰.𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝟐𝟒.𝐜𝐨𝐦

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Klara Lorinczi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work from home most of the time. I wouldn’t trade it for the old way unless my salary was at least doubled. I love the flexibility and not being supervised.

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Astarael
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like in office work is just so they can justify having a building right now

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Mad McQueen
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bcc a manager above her with the workload an expected deadline and delegations. Then anytime she gets aggressive forward that email in a bcc to boss with your nice reply. If no one catches her snotty actions she won't get tossed.

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Chez2202
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work from home 3 days a week and in the office 2 days. The office is 7 miles away. On some days I have left the house over an hour and a half before my start time and still been late because of horrendous traffic. I could have been working during that time. There have also been times where it’s taken almost 2 hours to get home. I’d rather work those hours free than spend them sat in traffic.

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Jessica Olson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like, if wfh is just out more effective than office, they should be required to pay your travel time... Because all this nonsense it's just making traffic worse for us who can't do a job from home. 😮‍💨

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Robert T
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I read that as "What the F***ing Hell means Please Turn Over". Work From Home. Paid Time Off. Stupid TLAs.

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Seadog
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem with people and companies like this is the company fails to see what/who the problem is and the individual never sees that they are the problem. SOP for corporate America.

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Mandy Delaforce (PC Girl)
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand. PTO is paid time off? How did they lose this? WFH is working from home, and shouldn't be any more hours than usual. this sounds all weird.

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I kinda hate the WFH culture right now. I work directly with kids (violence intervention services) and 80% of my day everyday is with the kids. 10% is supporting afterschool staff by being available to cover the infirmary and deal with injuries and the 10% I have left is far more than I need for paperwork and prep (we use a very set "curriculum" of games and discussions, nothing is graded and I rarely need to create new things for the school year program.) I already have my summer curriculim done and waiting on field trip approvals to get those and guest speakers scheduled. If we are closed then I have nothing to do. But because so many people have shown that you can WFH, we are now expected to do so, losing all our previously paid Snow Days. So Im stuck trying to find something to justify a day's "work" when all I have is my laptop, none of the things I actually need to do the little bit of prep I need for Monday (industrial papercutter and shared craft supplies). I hate WFH days.

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Miadlor
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1 year ago

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I'm sorry, but if you think it's your right to work from home, there's something wrong with you. A lot of people think because they have a position that they can work from home, think they're actually are working. Clicking a mouse is not work. This may be a chore, an annoyance that hinders your social media time, but not work.

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Seb Benson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks like someone completely missed the point by not actually reading the post...

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PigSquatch
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1 year ago

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This all goes back to contracts, I hate to tell most of you out there that if you read your contracts they have no provisions for WFH. Thusly if they call you back to the office according to your contract, which states that you work in an office, you need to go back. What most of you do not understand is that if the company you work for decides to sue you for breach they will win. You won't have a job and be out money. So this I will just quit might not work either as it depends on the contract you sign with your employer. Some have clauses that you have to follow before quitting or you will end up in court and losing since you sign and agreed to the terms and conditions of employment with said company. I am sure this will get downvoted by people that do not believe it but it is the truth none the less.

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bakingtoes
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1 year ago

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To be honnest I'm getting tired of these "malicious compliance" stories... along with tiktok bs and boomer-bashing, there is not much content on BP anymore

arao_91 avatar
White Sauce Hot Sauce
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For these types of managers, it's less about having a productive workforce, and more about lording this type of control over people in order to justify their employment.

johng_3 avatar
John G
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep. My company has insisted that people come in now 3 days a week. Even when shown that productivity was up with WFH. I have a short commute, but know people that it is now costing a substantial time to commute. I think I would just take it out of my 8h.

Load More Replies...
stacwinn avatar
Stacia
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Serves her right. She's at the wrong company then. My department still lets us WFH on the days we choose. As long as the work is getting done they don't care.

censorshipsucks12 avatar
censorshipsucks
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ohoh? So WFH is PTO? OK. Then I won't answer my phone or email AT ALL during PTO or weekends.

sepantt avatar
SealOfDisapproval
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been working from home since the pandemic started. I am both happier and more productive.

virop91311 avatar
RossJones
Community Member
1 year ago

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

I am making $92 an hour working from home. I never imagined that it was honest to goodness yet my closest companion is earning $16,000 a month by working on a laptop, that was truly astounding for me, she prescribed for me to attempt it simply. Everybody must try this job now by just using this website....................... 𝐖𝐰𝐰.𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝟐𝟒.𝐜𝐨𝐦

Load More Replies...
klorinczi avatar
Klara Lorinczi
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work from home most of the time. I wouldn’t trade it for the old way unless my salary was at least doubled. I love the flexibility and not being supervised.

tilly_carvey avatar
Astarael
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like in office work is just so they can justify having a building right now

madmcqueen avatar
Mad McQueen
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bcc a manager above her with the workload an expected deadline and delegations. Then anytime she gets aggressive forward that email in a bcc to boss with your nice reply. If no one catches her snotty actions she won't get tossed.

cherylhayesbent avatar
Chez2202
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work from home 3 days a week and in the office 2 days. The office is 7 miles away. On some days I have left the house over an hour and a half before my start time and still been late because of horrendous traffic. I could have been working during that time. There have also been times where it’s taken almost 2 hours to get home. I’d rather work those hours free than spend them sat in traffic.

jessicaolson avatar
Jessica Olson
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like, if wfh is just out more effective than office, they should be required to pay your travel time... Because all this nonsense it's just making traffic worse for us who can't do a job from home. 😮‍💨

Load More Replies...
robert-thornburrow avatar
Robert T
Community Member
1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I read that as "What the F***ing Hell means Please Turn Over". Work From Home. Paid Time Off. Stupid TLAs.

damonhill avatar
Seadog
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem with people and companies like this is the company fails to see what/who the problem is and the individual never sees that they are the problem. SOP for corporate America.

mandydelaforcepcgirl avatar
Mandy Delaforce (PC Girl)
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand. PTO is paid time off? How did they lose this? WFH is working from home, and shouldn't be any more hours than usual. this sounds all weird.

jencasey_1 avatar
Jen
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I kinda hate the WFH culture right now. I work directly with kids (violence intervention services) and 80% of my day everyday is with the kids. 10% is supporting afterschool staff by being available to cover the infirmary and deal with injuries and the 10% I have left is far more than I need for paperwork and prep (we use a very set "curriculum" of games and discussions, nothing is graded and I rarely need to create new things for the school year program.) I already have my summer curriculim done and waiting on field trip approvals to get those and guest speakers scheduled. If we are closed then I have nothing to do. But because so many people have shown that you can WFH, we are now expected to do so, losing all our previously paid Snow Days. So Im stuck trying to find something to justify a day's "work" when all I have is my laptop, none of the things I actually need to do the little bit of prep I need for Monday (industrial papercutter and shared craft supplies). I hate WFH days.

miadlor avatar
Miadlor
Community Member
1 year ago

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

I'm sorry, but if you think it's your right to work from home, there's something wrong with you. A lot of people think because they have a position that they can work from home, think they're actually are working. Clicking a mouse is not work. This may be a chore, an annoyance that hinders your social media time, but not work.

sebedie avatar
Seb Benson
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks like someone completely missed the point by not actually reading the post...

Load More Replies...
shawnwoodbury avatar
PigSquatch
Community Member
1 year ago

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

This all goes back to contracts, I hate to tell most of you out there that if you read your contracts they have no provisions for WFH. Thusly if they call you back to the office according to your contract, which states that you work in an office, you need to go back. What most of you do not understand is that if the company you work for decides to sue you for breach they will win. You won't have a job and be out money. So this I will just quit might not work either as it depends on the contract you sign with your employer. Some have clauses that you have to follow before quitting or you will end up in court and losing since you sign and agreed to the terms and conditions of employment with said company. I am sure this will get downvoted by people that do not believe it but it is the truth none the less.

celinemeyer avatar
bakingtoes
Community Member
1 year ago

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

To be honnest I'm getting tired of these "malicious compliance" stories... along with tiktok bs and boomer-bashing, there is not much content on BP anymore

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