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Man Gets His New Fiancée Pregnant While Waiting For Divorce, Ex Loses Her Mind
Man Gets His New Fiancée Pregnant While Waiting For Divorce, Ex Loses Her Mind
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Man Gets His New Fiancée Pregnant While Waiting For Divorce, Ex Loses Her Mind

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Coming to terms with the fact that your marriage is no longer working is never easy. You might want to fight for the relationship while your spouse has already given up, or the two of you might agree that it’s best to move forward with divorce. But no matter what happens, it’s best to be 100% before bringing up the d-word, because you can never take back the damage it can cause.

One father recently detailed on Reddit how his wife decided to end their marriage, then later began having second thoughts about her choice. Below, you’ll find the full story that he shared online, as well as conversations with Couple and Family Therapist Peter H. Fowler and Relationship Coach Jane Parker

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    This man’s wife filed for divorce after deciding that she would be better off alone

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    But now that her ex-husband has moved on, she’s having second thoughts about her decision

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    “Many couples experience what can be described as mixed agendas, where one is leaning in and seeking to save the marriage and the other is leaning out”

    To gain more insight on this topic, we reached out to Family Therapist Peter H. Fowler, who was kind enough to share his thoughts with Bored Panda.

    First, we wanted to know how quickly couples usually decide to go through with divorce once they’ve decided it might be the best option for them. “Many couples experience what can be described as mixed agendas, where one is leaning in and seeking to save the marriage and the other is leaning out, with one foot out of the marriage,” Peter shared. 

    “In some cases the leaning out partner has already left. These couples are in a ‘liminal space,’ where they are neither together, but nor are they apart,” the therapist explained. “They are on the brink of divorce and need some help to gain clarity about their feelings and what is driving their desire to stay or go.”

    Peter says that, ultimately, these couples need to gain the confidence to either leave or commit to couples therapy. “Couples can remain in this liminal space for years,” he noted. “However, if they seek help from a professional couples therapist, they may be able to quickly move out of this state and decide what they want for their future.”

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    “I recommend couples like this seek help and get a professional perspective before they rush into divorce,” the expert added. “Sometimes, the process of therapy can help to slow things down and remove the emergency, so it is possible to reflect and make an informed choice.”

    We were also lucky enough to get in touch with Relationship Coach Jane Parker to hear her thoughts on this situation. In this case, Jane says it seems like divorce was a quick decision. “Many couples try for many years to make their marriage work before even considering divorce,” she noted. 

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    “Unless the individuals consult a professional therapist and engage in the work of self reflection and self awareness, they are highly likely to repeat the same patterns of behavior in a new relationship”

    “When there are life changes (such as menopause, kids, change of job, etc.) it takes time to recalibrate the relationship,” Jane explained. “It requires many conversations to help create understanding and to reassess what is necessary and needed by both parties with the new circumstances.”

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    And when it comes to moving on from divorce, Peter says it is almost never a good decision to leap from one relationship into another. “We learn attachment strategies very early on in life and we bring those dynamics to our adult relationships,” he noted.

    “There is a good chance that these dynamics contributed to the first break-up and unless the individuals consult a professional therapist and engage in the work of self reflection and self awareness, they are highly likely to repeat the same patterns of behavior in a new relationship,” Peter explained. “At first, it may seem like the new partner is very different and that nothing is the same, but over time, they often come to realize ‘Oh no, I’ve done it again.’”

    Jane also says it is wise to give yourself time to grieve the old relationship before entering a new one. “Especially when there are children involved, they need time to adjust as well and to know their parents are available for emotional support when they need it,” she shared.

    When it comes to parents divorcing, Peter recommends approaching it in a collaborative way that ensures the best interests of their children are front and center. “In this case, the divorce is almost concluded, so it’s best that the couple learn to let go of their past relationship with dignity,” he noted. “That might mean mourning the relationship that has ended and appreciating the qualities and values they once shared.”

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    “It might also involve exploring the hurt and sadness of the partner who feels abandoned and expressing some empathy and understanding,” the therapist added. “If possible, I would advise them to learn to make a transition from the romantic sexual relationship they experienced together to one of friendship and mutual support.”

    “I would also strongly advise both partners to seek individual help to gain insight into the patterns of behavior that led to the end of their relationship and how each of them contributed to this,” Peter says. “If they commit to doing the work of self awareness and learn new relationship skills, it will help them avoid repeating those patterns and enable them to create a clear direction for change.”

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    “Women need more help and support through menopause, and it can bring couples closer together when the woman feels loved and accepted”

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    Jane is also optimistic that the parents may be able to be on good terms in the future, as long as they are both invested in having a harmonious relationship. “It can be difficult, but with the right guidance and attitudes, it can be done and it makes life easier for everyone involved,” she told Bored Panda.

    “If I knew this couple, I would advise them both to take time and space to work on themselves and get help with the difficult conversations for the sake of the children,” she shared. “If both parties treat the other with respect and consideration, and are willing to have the difficult conversations, then progress can be made.”

    Jane also pointed out that menopause can be an extremely difficult time for couples. “It is a time when most couples realize a change in their relationship. Both wives and husbands have a responsibility to work on the relationship throughout menopause, it is not just a women’s issue,” she shared.

    “There is plenty that a husband/partner can do to support and help their wife through this time. Relationships that break down during this time could often have been saved if the couple came together and navigated the changes as a team,” Jane noted. 

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    “Women need more help and support through menopause, and it can bring couples closer together when the woman feels loved and accepted, even when she isn’t feeling/being her best. Of course, women need to take responsibility for their own health and behavior also,” the expert added. 

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    Some readers took the father’s side, noting that it was his ex-wife’s decision to divorce in the first place

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    However, others shared concerns about how quickly the man moved on from his marriage

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    Howdy, I'm Adelaide! I'm originally from Texas, but after graduating from university with an acting degree, I relocated to sunny Los Angeles for a while. I then got a serious bite from the travel bug and found myself moving to Sweden and England before settling in Lithuania about three years ago. I'm passionate about animal welfare, sustainability and eating delicious food. But as you can see, I cover a wide range of topics including drama, internet trends and hilarious memes. I can easily be won over with a Seinfeld reference, vegan pastry or glass of fresh cold brew. And during my free time, I can usually be seen strolling through a park, playing tennis or baking something tasty.

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    Hphizzle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My heart hurts for all the children involved in this chaos.

    Mari
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For them it will feel like their father is abandoning them and replacing them with a new baby. They cannot understand things when it goes so fast. The father has his own life and right to be happy again but he has to think about his kids. He just menioned them but his whole story is about him, new girlfriend and new baby.

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    Averysleepypanda
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The way this dude wrote this just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth. It's all ick.

    Mrs.C
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, there's a serious lack of a timeline here. Did the ex leave him and he gets the new girl pg in 30 minutes, 30 months? And was the ex having a really hard time or was she actually being an AH? "I didn't cheat, so I'm not a bad husband" speaks volumes. Sounds like there's a lot more to this story than we're getting.

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    sturmwesen
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA but not really intelligent either. Maybe wait with kids and wedding planning till your first marriage is settled

    That Persistent Lint
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People can so easily understand hormone inbalances when discussing mental health... except when talking about "crazy ladies". And the guy goes "this person that knows absolutely nothing about me loves me, as apposed to my decades long partner that has been through a lifetime of tired routines and problems; better give this new woman the opportunity to hate my guts in 10 years as well instead of (God forbids) working through the tough patch"...

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Plenty of people end relationships during a mental health crisis. There's no obligation for their partners to take them back. It will just happen again, and if its intentional or not that emotional torture is more than most people can handle. If your coping mechanism is inflicting hurt on someone else, or if you can't see you are hurting your partner, you shouldn't be in a relationship at all.

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    Becca not Becky
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm going with ESH. It sounds like he has a lot of insecurities and poor communication. Telling someone they're just being hormonal is dismissive and almost always puts people on the defensive. Should have said "you're not acting like yourself and you haven't been for X months/years. I'm worried about you and I think you need to see a doctor." Then present the ultimatum if things continue. It sounds to me like he used a lot of dismissive communication with her in the past. Getting a divorce doesn't make him an AH, but he doesn't seem like the brightest bulb in the box for how he just jumped into a new relationship. All it took was for a younger woman to suddenly validate him and tell him what he wanted to hear, then he was all in and she's pregnant before the divorce is even finalized? That could actually complicate the divorce, and the divorce can greatly affect his finances right as the baby comes. The soon-to-be-ex wife isn't innocent in this either.

    Matthew Shepherd
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    1 year ago

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    Asexual aromantic sea sponge
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a post where I'd like to hear everyone else's side of the story.

    clairebear
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry but he is the A. Peri-menopause is a b***h, it does make you ask crazy. She probably was in denial that she was that old. Many women can feel their youth is over it is very nasty transition in life. It sounds like instead of being in any way sympathetic or supportive he pushed her into a corner. Once on HRT she would be her normal self and see what a mess she had made. You don't bail on a marriage because one of you is going through some s**t. He did abandon her when she needed him most. He knows he is being a s**t and is looking for validation. Or course other men will give it, they have no idea about menopause. I feel sorry for the kids, he is just having another to spite his wife. Talk about idiot.

    KimB
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm in perimenopause right now (I'm 46) and I've developed PMDD. I won't take HRT because of my strong family history of cardiovascular disease. I do feel like I'm going crazy some days. I feel like my body isn't mine anymore. I am on medication to help with the mood swings and anxiety but it's not a cure. I do have a supportive husband but he also calls me out when I'm being unreasonable. It's part of life. It's never an excuse! Don't put us back to the dark ages suggesting we are fragile little flowers incapable of controlling our emotions!

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    Arlecchino The Knave
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even though his wife was s****y, I think it's a ESH. The wife for being, well, terrible, but the husband for moving on to someone else and getting them pregnant while in a relationship. It's technically cheating if you consider a few things. But that's just my opinion.

    ConstantlyJon
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aw man, no thought for those kids at all. Tragedy for sure.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He said it himself. Rebound lady is the first romantic connection he's had who has ever been genuinely nice to him. His earth shattering revelation that decent people exist was apparently all it took to make him yeet his entire existence out the window and go live out that midlife crisis dream. I hope she has a good support system in place for when the honeymoon phase inevitably ends in a few months and he realizes that decent people have bad days too. What a dork áss loser.

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    Hphizzle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My heart hurts for all the children involved in this chaos.

    Mari
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For them it will feel like their father is abandoning them and replacing them with a new baby. They cannot understand things when it goes so fast. The father has his own life and right to be happy again but he has to think about his kids. He just menioned them but his whole story is about him, new girlfriend and new baby.

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    Averysleepypanda
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The way this dude wrote this just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth. It's all ick.

    Mrs.C
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, there's a serious lack of a timeline here. Did the ex leave him and he gets the new girl pg in 30 minutes, 30 months? And was the ex having a really hard time or was she actually being an AH? "I didn't cheat, so I'm not a bad husband" speaks volumes. Sounds like there's a lot more to this story than we're getting.

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    sturmwesen
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA but not really intelligent either. Maybe wait with kids and wedding planning till your first marriage is settled

    That Persistent Lint
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People can so easily understand hormone inbalances when discussing mental health... except when talking about "crazy ladies". And the guy goes "this person that knows absolutely nothing about me loves me, as apposed to my decades long partner that has been through a lifetime of tired routines and problems; better give this new woman the opportunity to hate my guts in 10 years as well instead of (God forbids) working through the tough patch"...

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Plenty of people end relationships during a mental health crisis. There's no obligation for their partners to take them back. It will just happen again, and if its intentional or not that emotional torture is more than most people can handle. If your coping mechanism is inflicting hurt on someone else, or if you can't see you are hurting your partner, you shouldn't be in a relationship at all.

    Load More Replies...
    Becca not Becky
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm going with ESH. It sounds like he has a lot of insecurities and poor communication. Telling someone they're just being hormonal is dismissive and almost always puts people on the defensive. Should have said "you're not acting like yourself and you haven't been for X months/years. I'm worried about you and I think you need to see a doctor." Then present the ultimatum if things continue. It sounds to me like he used a lot of dismissive communication with her in the past. Getting a divorce doesn't make him an AH, but he doesn't seem like the brightest bulb in the box for how he just jumped into a new relationship. All it took was for a younger woman to suddenly validate him and tell him what he wanted to hear, then he was all in and she's pregnant before the divorce is even finalized? That could actually complicate the divorce, and the divorce can greatly affect his finances right as the baby comes. The soon-to-be-ex wife isn't innocent in this either.

    Matthew Shepherd
    Community Member
    1 year ago

    This comment has been deleted.

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    Asexual aromantic sea sponge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a post where I'd like to hear everyone else's side of the story.

    clairebear
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry but he is the A. Peri-menopause is a b***h, it does make you ask crazy. She probably was in denial that she was that old. Many women can feel their youth is over it is very nasty transition in life. It sounds like instead of being in any way sympathetic or supportive he pushed her into a corner. Once on HRT she would be her normal self and see what a mess she had made. You don't bail on a marriage because one of you is going through some s**t. He did abandon her when she needed him most. He knows he is being a s**t and is looking for validation. Or course other men will give it, they have no idea about menopause. I feel sorry for the kids, he is just having another to spite his wife. Talk about idiot.

    KimB
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm in perimenopause right now (I'm 46) and I've developed PMDD. I won't take HRT because of my strong family history of cardiovascular disease. I do feel like I'm going crazy some days. I feel like my body isn't mine anymore. I am on medication to help with the mood swings and anxiety but it's not a cure. I do have a supportive husband but he also calls me out when I'm being unreasonable. It's part of life. It's never an excuse! Don't put us back to the dark ages suggesting we are fragile little flowers incapable of controlling our emotions!

    Load More Replies...
    Arlecchino The Knave
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even though his wife was s****y, I think it's a ESH. The wife for being, well, terrible, but the husband for moving on to someone else and getting them pregnant while in a relationship. It's technically cheating if you consider a few things. But that's just my opinion.

    ConstantlyJon
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aw man, no thought for those kids at all. Tragedy for sure.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He said it himself. Rebound lady is the first romantic connection he's had who has ever been genuinely nice to him. His earth shattering revelation that decent people exist was apparently all it took to make him yeet his entire existence out the window and go live out that midlife crisis dream. I hope she has a good support system in place for when the honeymoon phase inevitably ends in a few months and he realizes that decent people have bad days too. What a dork áss loser.

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