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“She Wants To Quit Her Job Permanently To Become Lazy”: Man At Crossroads After Wife Changes
“She Wants To Quit Her Job Permanently To Become Lazy”: Man At Crossroads After Wife Changes
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Recently, it’s become trendy online for people to point out the fact that they “don’t dream of labor.” Many are tired of pouring all of their energy into jobs they hate for 40+ hours a week, and they want corporations to know that this is not what they intended for their lives. However, we must also be realistic. And while I don’t dream of sitting at a computer for 8 hours a day, I do dream of being able to pay my rent and having a fridge full of groceries.

Below, you’ll find a story that was recently shared on Reddit, where a man discusses his wife’s new and controversial goal to live a “soft life,” as well as some of the replies concerned readers have shared.

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    But when this man’s wife decided she wanted to quit her job to pursue a “soft life,” he couldn’t take her seriously

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    Later, the man responded to a couple of comments from readers and provided some background information

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    Living a soft life means trying to minimize stress while prioritizing happiness

    If you’re not familiar with the idea of living a “soft life,” don’t worry, the concept is pretty straightforward. According to Dictionary.com, this simply means “a lifestyle of comfort and relaxation with minimal challenges or stress.” While the term has apparently been around since the mid-1600’s, referring to “a life without difficulty,” it has recently gained popularity on social media, thanks to the Nigerian influencer community, as a direct response to the struggle many of us know all too well of working a stressful job.

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    The appeal of living a soft life is undeniable. Who doesn’t want to work less hours and eliminate stress from their daily routine? In a world where hustle culture has permeated the workforce and LinkedIn-fluencers are constantly telling us we’re not working hard enough, it can be refreshing to be told to take a deep breath and relax.

    According to Katherine Chang at The Everygirl, living a soft life does not actually require quitting your job or being anti-work, but it’s simply about minimizing stress and anxiety and making an effort to prioritize your own happiness. “Soft living can look opulent, but at its core, it’s a mindset cultivating balance, self-awareness, intentionality, and joy,” Chang explains.

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    But not everyone has the privilege of being able to pursue this lifestyle

    Some of the key steps to take to pursue a softer life are making time for rest, managing your stress, establishing boundaries in all aspects of your life, living intentionally, and enlisting help when necessary. Those who choose a soft life will avoid activities that they feel pressured or obligated to do and instead fill their time with what they actually enjoy.

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    While a soft life may sound like a dream to you, there’s no denying that there’s a bit of privilege involved in being able to quit a toxic job at a moment’s notice or having the opportunity to work less hours while still being able to put food on the table. In the United States, 53% of households are dual-income today, because for many families, one paycheck simply isn’t enough to make ends meet.

    While the woman in this story may want to quit her job to lower her own stress levels, forcing her husband to become the sole breadwinner may have the opposite effect on him. Having to provide for yourself and your partner can be detrimental for a person’s health, if it causes their stress and anxiety to rise. According to research from the American Institute of Stress, “73% of people have stress that impacts their mental health, and 48% of people have trouble sleeping because of stress.”

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    Becoming the sole breadwinner can be incredibly stressful for a spouse

    Some other common symptoms that can come from living a stressful lifestyle are irritability and anger, fatigue or lack of energy, lack of motivation and interest in things, anxiety or nervousness, headaches, feeling sad or depressed, indigestion or upset stomach, muscle tension and appetite changes.

    While no one should be forced to keep a job that makes them unhappy, we should do our best to work with our partners to find a compromise and a lifestyle that suits us both. Whether you believe that a little bit of hard work builds character or not, maintaining close relationships is essential for our health and wellbeing. So we shouldn’t be quick to throw our friends or spouses into a stressful lifestyle that we know we don’t want for ourselves.

    We would love to hear your thoughts on this story in the comments below, pandas. Would you pursue a soft life if you had the chance? Feel free to share, and then if you’re interested in reading another Bored Panda article discussing a similar topic, look no further than right here.     

    Readers assured the man that he had done nothing wrong, while some recommended that he rethink his marriage

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    Howdy, I'm Adelaide! I'm originally from Texas, but after graduating from university with an acting degree, I relocated to sunny Los Angeles for a while. I then got a serious bite from the travel bug and found myself moving to Sweden and England before settling in Lithuania about three years ago. I'm passionate about animal welfare, sustainability and eating delicious food. But as you can see, I cover a wide range of topics including drama, internet trends and hilarious memes. I can easily be won over with a Seinfeld reference, vegan pastry or glass of fresh cold brew. And during my free time, I can usually be seen strolling through a park, playing tennis or baking something tasty.

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    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like your wife, I want the soft life and to not work. But after sober reflection, I realized I like eating regularly and living indoors too much to quit my job. Anyway, you should offer to explore in marriage counseling how to reduce both your stress levels but if she insists on quitting, your marriage is over.

    Fora Nakit
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand completely her point of view. She might feel like it will take forever to recharge but it will not. As a person who has had a hyperactive life before, she will get bored in a few months max. My BF had burnout like this 2 years ago. We had enough savings for him not to work at least half a year. For a week he did nothing and then he started to do little projects around the house. After two months he got himself a low-paced work that he did in 2 months. After that, he went back to work at full speed. We thought that he'd need at least half a year, and it only took 4 months for him to get back to normal. Now is my turn. I quit my job 4 weeks ago. I told to myself that I'd take some 3 months off, but I am already getting restless. Did a lot for myself already, and I think in a week or two, I'll start to look for a new job. My point is that she thinks that she will never want to go back to her old lifestyle, and he took that as a fact and got scared. She will.

    PolymathNecromancer
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you, very well said. And I'll add that the real important dynamics here are SUPPORT, COMMUNICATION, TRUST, HONESTY. I came right here and haven't read this post yet because I'm living it. The bottom line is, if she's genuinely hitting the skids, he's a HUGE AH and so are his supporters!! If she's pulling a fast one, trying to milk it, or laying an ultimatum, then FU TO HER because it gives those of us who are REALLY burnt out a bad name. Our society already glorifies hustle too much, don't feed it by going for a GRAB

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    Ima Manimal
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So she’s basically quitting her job to act like an “influencer”. Then the misandry of demanding he man up and support her Cush lifestyle because she’s exploring her toxic femininity. Glad he has a prenup. That will come in handy.

    Marcellus II
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... but without the hassle of being an influencer & constantly generating 'content'.

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    Deborah B
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sit down and do a budget, ask her to cost out and budget what she'd like. Work out what level of income you need as a couple to give each of you the lifestyle you want. Work out how much she needs to contribute if you stay in your current job. There's no reason she can't move to a less demanding job, or more WFH, or freelance, as long as she is being reasonable about her expectations. Expecting you to carry all the financial burdens for the household, while she works for pocket money, is not reasonable. If she's burning out, cutting back her hours by 20% or finding a WFH role might let her rearrange her life to cut the "hustle pressure", without making him carry all the responsibility.

    Justin Smith
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's refusing to do anything but her idea of freelance work, which seems to be only one or two jobs every now and then..

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    Jay Walsh
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd agree with her, then tell her you plan to join her, quit your job, and start the 10% effort/income free-lancing live too! Probably need to move into a "tiny home", which shoudl be fine, it's just the two of you. I'd also point out i'm not funding her new lifestyle. clearly your wife is burnt out and need a change, hopefully you can support her in this, and help her navigate to a less stressful job. I suspect, you're heading for a divorce.

    Dainty72
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can you imagine a man saying "I don't want you to work, you belong in the home cooking and cleaning and I'll be the provider!" Women have spent many years trying to be equal in a "man's world" and you get her suggesting this??? She can do other things, but wants to be a kept woman? You need to work more years of savings and retirement before you should contemplate this! It's not fair at all. Imagine how he would be lashed had he suggested this???? I'm worried for your marriage!

    UpupaEpops
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think Morrolan put it best. At first glance, some of what the wife wants doesn't look like anything big. The problem is, that she probably hasn't looked into the financial aspect of it. Buying equipment for baking, knitting, ingredients, those candles are effing expensive, etc. If she's burned out, she might not be able to think rationally. She would be in flight mode, trying to get out of an untenable situation. So it does fall on OP to pull the breaks, have calm, non-judgemental conversations and state facts without taking jibes at his wife.

    Zakaar Bovus
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you brought up candles it made me think of Michael and Jan from the office.

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    Tammy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think that the OP is being a bit melodramatic. Just because she is burnt out now and wants to practice a little self care, that doesn't automatically equate to a lifetime of alternative work. I think they both need counseling, individual and marital.

    Papa
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It may not equate to a lifetime of alternative work (or no work), but it certainly sounds like that's what she has in mind. I wholly agree that they need counseling.

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    Id row
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This woman has spoiled house cat fantasies. I'd nope out if I were him.

    Sara Wilson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex husband HATED his job so much and was miserable. I told him I would rather he take a job making less and b happier. He wouldn't do. Instead he spent insane amounts of money on hobbies to make himself feel better, to the point where we struggled paying bills, making over $100k/yr together. And ANY TIME I expressed being miserable and wanting to try a different career, I wasn't supported because it would mean downgrading our income and less money for his hobbies. I left him after 18 years of marriage and over 20 together. Literally HALF of my life. So OP, u have to either find a way to compromise, or u will find urself single. One way or another. I'm not saying let her do 100% what she wants, but there has to b something here. Sounds like OP is more concerned with his lifestyle and fancy apartment, then the health and happiness of his spouse.

    Lexekon
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interesting, I see some highly upvoted comments on this response thread are now missing. Would not have spotted this, except the system notified me about it. Possible server issue?

    Jazz To Country
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think your wife needs a different husband. You want a workhorse to contribute half the rent etc. She wants a traditional marriage where the husband contributes more of the money. Split up the assets and get on with your lives.

    millac
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What I find weird is that none of the things she lists wanting to do are all that ridiculous or require quitting. The lady makes 100k a year, she can go get massages and learn how to bake bread. That she hasn't even attempted any of the items on her list makes me think she's indulging in some pretty heavy escapism fantasies that everything in her life will miraculously fix if she does x, y, and z

    Ali
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have literally no respect for stay at home wives. It's such a lazy way to live and I feel second hand embarrassment for them. This woman is in a high demand field with an education, she could find another job that's less stressful and probably make about the same money. OP is right, she just wants to be lazy, he should leave her now before she tanks his credit on useless s**t

    JP Purves
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The wife's therapy was online? That's more than a little suspicious right there. Did it involve crystals and essential oils? So she wants to be a stay at home wife with a small side hustle. It would seem that they would need couples counseling, but it sounds like her mind is made up and I don't hold much hope for this relationship..

    Hakitosama
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Op should be the provider?... You hear that? That rattling sound of a feminist dragging a baseball bat on the ground? That sexist pos is a shame to all the Sisterhood! Ho don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with being a stay at home wife, there is, however, BIG issues leeching on your partner and big SEXIST issue in doing it because they're "the man" and it's their "masculin" duty to provide her lifestyle.

    Judit Hajdu
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA - tell her that you are not going to support her financially

    Robin Dorsey-Cosley
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask her to consider taking a 3 month hiatus. Call it a mental health break a d it might qualify as FMLA. Give her a chance to start her business and maybe she can do both part-time. You're accustomed to the income so that would be more than fair.

    Karen Philpott
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, between them they earn about $200k. How much of that does she earn? She sounds as though she's the one doing long hours, more days of work and even OP has said she is stressed and she says, worn out. Maybe you both need a couple of weeks of holiday, away from work, as it seems that all either of you do is work. Take the time out together and stop telling each other what to do. Discuss this like adults. Listen to each other. Try and put yourselves in each other's shoes. I don't think that either of you are listening to each other. You're both TA.

    Cherry pie
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate these posts. The guy only shared his side of the story. She could be quitting to save her mental health, her sanity. He's being just a selfish as she is. Sound like they are better off without each other.

    Power puff scientist
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you can quit a job to save your mental health but saying something like "i'm just going to appreciate the finer things in life, hang around the house and have you support me and you will just have to downsize your lifestyle to support me" is just plain wrong. suggesting he is just as selfish as she is because he doesnt want her to uproot his entire life makes no sense. she could easily offer to find another job or do something else but she didn't, she has it all figured out she wants to be a stay at home, taken care of by the man, wife.

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    Gardener of Weeden
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a hard life then a harder one for 40+ yrs - NOW I earned a bit of a softer one

    PattyK
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If she won’t go to counseling with you, go alone.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell me you want to be an influencer without actually telling me you want to be an influencer.

    Johnny Cakes
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like trouble. This is just the start of her taking advantage of you so she can live a "soft" life. Go F*** Yourself b*tch

    Papa
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is one of those decisions that shouldn't be made unless both people vote Yes. If that doesn't happen they should work together to reach a compromise they're both okay with. If one of them isn't willing to do that (and it sounds like that's what's going on here), there's a real big problem.

    Miss Frankfurter
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She doesn’t seem to want to do anything to help herself (in person counselling), marriage counselling to help repair/keep the marriage together, or choose to live in the real world. Counselling in “secret”? Maybe a visit to a divorce lawyer in “secret” is called for. She wants to live the soft life? Go ahead, but she’s then actually on her own to figure out how she’s going to do that. Maybe start buying lottery tickets? I hear the Powerball can net you a fortune.

    Sunny Day
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell her you had an epiphany, too. You quit your job so you can achieve your life's goal of being a toyboy and couch potato extraordinary. Tell her she needs to figure out how to finance this new lifestyle, and be quick because rent is due in a couple weeks.

    Nonya Business
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    divorce her, hopefully no kids. let her find another sucker to free load from

    Sami-Jo Ross
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would love to live a "soft" life...but I also am not fkcing delulu and thinking that I can splurge like a moocher off a single income.

    Nils Skirnir
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In order: get an attorney, move assets, and then get counseling. In my experience, when a partner starts acting like this, they’re either planning on or having an affair. Your marriage is over.

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    Premium
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would tell her, "Okay, I'll contact the lawyer to arrange the divorce and you can go look for sugar daddies on the internet. You don't get to "just decide" this stuff for yourself when someone else is supposed to be footing the bill. I'd laugh in her face, pack my bags and file for an immediate legal separation so I don't have to pay any more of her bills.

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like your wife, I want the soft life and to not work. But after sober reflection, I realized I like eating regularly and living indoors too much to quit my job. Anyway, you should offer to explore in marriage counseling how to reduce both your stress levels but if she insists on quitting, your marriage is over.

    Fora Nakit
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand completely her point of view. She might feel like it will take forever to recharge but it will not. As a person who has had a hyperactive life before, she will get bored in a few months max. My BF had burnout like this 2 years ago. We had enough savings for him not to work at least half a year. For a week he did nothing and then he started to do little projects around the house. After two months he got himself a low-paced work that he did in 2 months. After that, he went back to work at full speed. We thought that he'd need at least half a year, and it only took 4 months for him to get back to normal. Now is my turn. I quit my job 4 weeks ago. I told to myself that I'd take some 3 months off, but I am already getting restless. Did a lot for myself already, and I think in a week or two, I'll start to look for a new job. My point is that she thinks that she will never want to go back to her old lifestyle, and he took that as a fact and got scared. She will.

    PolymathNecromancer
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you, very well said. And I'll add that the real important dynamics here are SUPPORT, COMMUNICATION, TRUST, HONESTY. I came right here and haven't read this post yet because I'm living it. The bottom line is, if she's genuinely hitting the skids, he's a HUGE AH and so are his supporters!! If she's pulling a fast one, trying to milk it, or laying an ultimatum, then FU TO HER because it gives those of us who are REALLY burnt out a bad name. Our society already glorifies hustle too much, don't feed it by going for a GRAB

    Load More Replies...
    Ima Manimal
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So she’s basically quitting her job to act like an “influencer”. Then the misandry of demanding he man up and support her Cush lifestyle because she’s exploring her toxic femininity. Glad he has a prenup. That will come in handy.

    Marcellus II
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... but without the hassle of being an influencer & constantly generating 'content'.

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    Deborah B
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sit down and do a budget, ask her to cost out and budget what she'd like. Work out what level of income you need as a couple to give each of you the lifestyle you want. Work out how much she needs to contribute if you stay in your current job. There's no reason she can't move to a less demanding job, or more WFH, or freelance, as long as she is being reasonable about her expectations. Expecting you to carry all the financial burdens for the household, while she works for pocket money, is not reasonable. If she's burning out, cutting back her hours by 20% or finding a WFH role might let her rearrange her life to cut the "hustle pressure", without making him carry all the responsibility.

    Justin Smith
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's refusing to do anything but her idea of freelance work, which seems to be only one or two jobs every now and then..

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    Jay Walsh
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd agree with her, then tell her you plan to join her, quit your job, and start the 10% effort/income free-lancing live too! Probably need to move into a "tiny home", which shoudl be fine, it's just the two of you. I'd also point out i'm not funding her new lifestyle. clearly your wife is burnt out and need a change, hopefully you can support her in this, and help her navigate to a less stressful job. I suspect, you're heading for a divorce.

    Dainty72
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can you imagine a man saying "I don't want you to work, you belong in the home cooking and cleaning and I'll be the provider!" Women have spent many years trying to be equal in a "man's world" and you get her suggesting this??? She can do other things, but wants to be a kept woman? You need to work more years of savings and retirement before you should contemplate this! It's not fair at all. Imagine how he would be lashed had he suggested this???? I'm worried for your marriage!

    UpupaEpops
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think Morrolan put it best. At first glance, some of what the wife wants doesn't look like anything big. The problem is, that she probably hasn't looked into the financial aspect of it. Buying equipment for baking, knitting, ingredients, those candles are effing expensive, etc. If she's burned out, she might not be able to think rationally. She would be in flight mode, trying to get out of an untenable situation. So it does fall on OP to pull the breaks, have calm, non-judgemental conversations and state facts without taking jibes at his wife.

    Zakaar Bovus
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you brought up candles it made me think of Michael and Jan from the office.

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    Tammy
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think that the OP is being a bit melodramatic. Just because she is burnt out now and wants to practice a little self care, that doesn't automatically equate to a lifetime of alternative work. I think they both need counseling, individual and marital.

    Papa
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It may not equate to a lifetime of alternative work (or no work), but it certainly sounds like that's what she has in mind. I wholly agree that they need counseling.

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    Id row
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This woman has spoiled house cat fantasies. I'd nope out if I were him.

    Sara Wilson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex husband HATED his job so much and was miserable. I told him I would rather he take a job making less and b happier. He wouldn't do. Instead he spent insane amounts of money on hobbies to make himself feel better, to the point where we struggled paying bills, making over $100k/yr together. And ANY TIME I expressed being miserable and wanting to try a different career, I wasn't supported because it would mean downgrading our income and less money for his hobbies. I left him after 18 years of marriage and over 20 together. Literally HALF of my life. So OP, u have to either find a way to compromise, or u will find urself single. One way or another. I'm not saying let her do 100% what she wants, but there has to b something here. Sounds like OP is more concerned with his lifestyle and fancy apartment, then the health and happiness of his spouse.

    Lexekon
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interesting, I see some highly upvoted comments on this response thread are now missing. Would not have spotted this, except the system notified me about it. Possible server issue?

    Jazz To Country
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think your wife needs a different husband. You want a workhorse to contribute half the rent etc. She wants a traditional marriage where the husband contributes more of the money. Split up the assets and get on with your lives.

    millac
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What I find weird is that none of the things she lists wanting to do are all that ridiculous or require quitting. The lady makes 100k a year, she can go get massages and learn how to bake bread. That she hasn't even attempted any of the items on her list makes me think she's indulging in some pretty heavy escapism fantasies that everything in her life will miraculously fix if she does x, y, and z

    Ali
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have literally no respect for stay at home wives. It's such a lazy way to live and I feel second hand embarrassment for them. This woman is in a high demand field with an education, she could find another job that's less stressful and probably make about the same money. OP is right, she just wants to be lazy, he should leave her now before she tanks his credit on useless s**t

    JP Purves
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The wife's therapy was online? That's more than a little suspicious right there. Did it involve crystals and essential oils? So she wants to be a stay at home wife with a small side hustle. It would seem that they would need couples counseling, but it sounds like her mind is made up and I don't hold much hope for this relationship..

    Hakitosama
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Op should be the provider?... You hear that? That rattling sound of a feminist dragging a baseball bat on the ground? That sexist pos is a shame to all the Sisterhood! Ho don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with being a stay at home wife, there is, however, BIG issues leeching on your partner and big SEXIST issue in doing it because they're "the man" and it's their "masculin" duty to provide her lifestyle.

    Judit Hajdu
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA - tell her that you are not going to support her financially

    Robin Dorsey-Cosley
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask her to consider taking a 3 month hiatus. Call it a mental health break a d it might qualify as FMLA. Give her a chance to start her business and maybe she can do both part-time. You're accustomed to the income so that would be more than fair.

    Karen Philpott
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, between them they earn about $200k. How much of that does she earn? She sounds as though she's the one doing long hours, more days of work and even OP has said she is stressed and she says, worn out. Maybe you both need a couple of weeks of holiday, away from work, as it seems that all either of you do is work. Take the time out together and stop telling each other what to do. Discuss this like adults. Listen to each other. Try and put yourselves in each other's shoes. I don't think that either of you are listening to each other. You're both TA.

    Cherry pie
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate these posts. The guy only shared his side of the story. She could be quitting to save her mental health, her sanity. He's being just a selfish as she is. Sound like they are better off without each other.

    Power puff scientist
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you can quit a job to save your mental health but saying something like "i'm just going to appreciate the finer things in life, hang around the house and have you support me and you will just have to downsize your lifestyle to support me" is just plain wrong. suggesting he is just as selfish as she is because he doesnt want her to uproot his entire life makes no sense. she could easily offer to find another job or do something else but she didn't, she has it all figured out she wants to be a stay at home, taken care of by the man, wife.

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    Gardener of Weeden
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a hard life then a harder one for 40+ yrs - NOW I earned a bit of a softer one

    PattyK
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If she won’t go to counseling with you, go alone.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell me you want to be an influencer without actually telling me you want to be an influencer.

    Johnny Cakes
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like trouble. This is just the start of her taking advantage of you so she can live a "soft" life. Go F*** Yourself b*tch

    Papa
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is one of those decisions that shouldn't be made unless both people vote Yes. If that doesn't happen they should work together to reach a compromise they're both okay with. If one of them isn't willing to do that (and it sounds like that's what's going on here), there's a real big problem.

    Miss Frankfurter
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She doesn’t seem to want to do anything to help herself (in person counselling), marriage counselling to help repair/keep the marriage together, or choose to live in the real world. Counselling in “secret”? Maybe a visit to a divorce lawyer in “secret” is called for. She wants to live the soft life? Go ahead, but she’s then actually on her own to figure out how she’s going to do that. Maybe start buying lottery tickets? I hear the Powerball can net you a fortune.

    Sunny Day
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell her you had an epiphany, too. You quit your job so you can achieve your life's goal of being a toyboy and couch potato extraordinary. Tell her she needs to figure out how to finance this new lifestyle, and be quick because rent is due in a couple weeks.

    Nonya Business
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    divorce her, hopefully no kids. let her find another sucker to free load from

    Sami-Jo Ross
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would love to live a "soft" life...but I also am not fkcing delulu and thinking that I can splurge like a moocher off a single income.

    Nils Skirnir
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In order: get an attorney, move assets, and then get counseling. In my experience, when a partner starts acting like this, they’re either planning on or having an affair. Your marriage is over.

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would tell her, "Okay, I'll contact the lawyer to arrange the divorce and you can go look for sugar daddies on the internet. You don't get to "just decide" this stuff for yourself when someone else is supposed to be footing the bill. I'd laugh in her face, pack my bags and file for an immediate legal separation so I don't have to pay any more of her bills.

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