“What Victim Ended Up Being The Bad Guy After More Information Came Out?” (50 Answers)
InterviewIt can be hard to fess up to mistakes, but ultimately a mature person needs to bite the bullet, face the music and go through the embarrassment they inflicted on themselves. However, some folks can’t live with this idea and invent complex scenarios where, somehow, it’s not their fault.
An internet user asked “What "victim" ended up being the bad guy after more information came out?” and people shared their best examples. We also got in touch with the person who posted the question to learn more. So get comfortable as you read through, upvote your favorites and be sure to leave your experiences in the comments below.
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The Catholic church when Sinead O'Connor tore the pope's picture up on stage. Everything she was making statement about was 100% true.
the Catholic church and so many religious organizations CONTINUE to do the shuffling of r@pists and pedophiles. Self-policing NEVER WORKS. Organized religion is a giant cult.
I didn't know until after she died that she ended up in a Magdalene Laundry as a teenager. Mostly because she'd been abused as a kid. RIP, Sinead.
The harassment was mostly in USA. Most of Europe still loved her. RIP Sinead 😞
Nah she was never the bad guy, what an insane reaction to someone saying mean things about your religion.
Recently there was this dude in a town in Ontario who filed assault charges on his neighbour for spraying him with a water gun. Her story comes out first to the media, saying how she can't return to work as school support staff until the charges are sorted out, and gives a story about how she was just having a fun water gun fight with the neighbour kids and accidentally sprayed the neighbour while he was mowing his lawn.
Week later, his story gets published in the paper. He's repeatedly received targeted harassment for this neighbour and others, he says likely because he's the one black guy on the street of a small town, in an interracial marriage, and releases his security camera footage of him just casually cutting his lawn, with the other neighbour actively telling the kid to bring her the water gun while she's standing behind him, then sprays him directly with it. And the camera also captures the audio of the aftermath where some racial slurs are dropped (also a recurring thing). What's also funny is that the neighbour claimed that there was some language barrier misunderstanding between them... The guy is straight up Canadian and speaks clearer than most people.
Wow, I saw several news reports on the first part of this story (not far from where I live), but I have not come across the game-changing update! Interesting how the truth may be getting a lot less media attention....
I didn't know the second half of this. And now I understand why the cops wanted to charge her with assault. Good for them.
McDonald's, I guess, in the hot coffee lawsuit. It's tough describing a massive corporation as a "victim," but people were definitely on their side until the details of the lawsuit came out.
I remember my parents laughing about this story when I was a kid. It’s horrific what actually happened to her.
That poor woman. What happened to her was horrific. All she wanted was her medical bills paid. I'm glad more people are becoming educated on the case and not just hopping on the idea of calling it the epitome of a frivolous lawsuit. Another thing McD's perpetuated rather than apologize for. They McDoubled down hard on that.
The poor woman's labia got fused together from the burns!!! That's how bad it was.
I remember that. Never sided with McDonald's on that, I had ( FOB) made de mistake of taking a sip and I burned my mouth to a crisp. I DO NOT understand why they do that either, boiling the coffee wrecks it.
I've heard different reasons. One is that they advertised that their coffee would still be hot when you get home. Another was that supposedly the hotter the water the fewer coffee grounds you need, so its cheaper to make the coffee that way. I don't know if any are true, but that's what I've been told.
Load More Replies...On an avarage, I hear this story once a year. They still dont know how her labia melted from the heat, so they still laugh at her"frovilous" suit. Until I correct them at least.
What? Her labia didn’t “melt”; they were severely burned, and unless the lips were somehow held apart as they healed (they normally touch), they were gonna fuse. There’s no “melting,” but rather severe wounds (burns).
Load More Replies...Every time I hear this story I am still perplexed by the idea that someone thought it was a good idea to put a cup of coffee between her legs so she could pry off the lid. Anyone who has wrested with a lid will know how difficult is can be. It is challenging when you have a table to work on. Trying to do this in a car, whilst ho.ding the cup between your legs is incredibly foolish. Yes, the coffee was far too hot. No, it wasn't a frivolous lawsuit. But it was still a very foolish and reckless thing to do.
Yeah but wasn't she like in her mid 70s when it happened? Which, frankly, makes it even worse--she was medically fragile--but means that her death was very likely just, you know, reaching the end of her timeline.
Load More Replies...Well, it wasn't McDonald's, it was the manager of that particular restaurant. He kept the coffee well hotter than what was legally allowed and had actually been cited by the board of health prior to the incident for having the coffee too hot. He'd turn the temperature down, then turn it back up after the inspector left.
Bored Panda got in touch with the netizen who asked this question and they were kind enough to provide some more details. Naturally, we wanted to hear more about what, if anything, prompted them to make the post in the first place. “It was initially to get ideas for a story I was writing.”
“I even mentioned it in the thread at the beginning of its life, but people started downvoting me for no reason. (So I deleted that comment.) Reddit loves negativity, the internet loves negativity. Most popular r/askreddit posts are either about sex or negative things. I do not.”
Susan Smith. She was all over the news begging for the return of her two boys who were toddlers. Stating she had been carjacked. After several days, it was discovered that she had let her car roll into a lake with her babies strapped into their car seats. I'll never forget hearing it on the radio driving home from work. My children were their age at the time and I had to pull off the road because I couldn't see through the tears.
Was she having an episode, psychosis, or just pure evil human? Edit: saw the post (now) below! 🤬🤬😿
Load More Replies...Not just car jacked though, car jacked by a man of color. Disgusting woman.
And all so she could marry her rich boyfriend who had said no to marriage because he didn't want kids.
She didn't just claim it was a carjacking, she insisted the non-existent criminal was black.
The NBC correspondent on the scene played the story straight for days on the Today Show for all the fretting moms in the audience until she cracked. But all the while the look on his face showed “this is b******t.”
There should be no parole for murder. If you take a life, you should have to give up your freedom until you come out in a box. I'm looking at you too, Canada.
Load More Replies...I just read there is a parole hearing in 2024. I mean, WTF. Killing your small children?
Sometimes when I read stories about murdered children I imagine how heartbroken I would have been if someone murdered my child. I doubt parents ever recover from that horror. When I heard about this one I imagined how those poor kids died at the hands of the person they likely trusted the most. I hope she dies in prison.
More heartbreaking, somehow, was the British women where a similar thing happened, except hers was entirely accidental when she parked her car on a slipway to pop into a shop and the handbrake failed. The car, with her two year-old daughter in it, rolled into the river. When she came out of the shop, she thought the car had been stolen and reported it as such. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/river-two-year-old-slipway-14439915
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When I was in college there was a young woman who claimed she was getting into her car when someone shoved her into the car from behind and attempted to r**e her in broad daylight. She said they stopped and took off when another car rolled through the parking lot. The story sounded off, so a lot of people were skeptical at first. That led to an outpouring of support, with post-it notes popping up all over the school that said “I believe her”. There was a lot of talk about victim-blaming, and the need for people to support victims.
About a week and a half later, after news stations asked to interview her, she recanted her story and admitted that she’d made the whole thing up for attention.
What really pissed me off about that situation was that she handed ammunition to the a******s who claim “women make up r**e accusations all the time”.
Shame on her! She could easily have ruined an innocent person's life with such a lie.
This is also like the story that Rolling Stone printed about events at the University of Virginia that turned out to be absolutely false. It really did a disservice to all the women who actually WERE assaulted.
Women caught deliberately lying about that should face the same sentence the accused would have faced if found guilty.
I have always thought there should be criminal charges for anyone who lies about being sèxüáļļŷ assaulted.
Tawana Brawley accused 4 white men of rape and racial violence. Rev Al Sharpton represented her in some capacity. Then it came out she lied. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/08/05/209194252/15-years-later-tawana-brawley-has-paid-1-percent-of-penalty
But most of us are NOT crying wolf. Nobody would believe me when my coworker hurt me because I was "too fat" for him to be attracted to. It wasn't about attraction. It was about power, and he wanted to have power over me. It came out later that he'd done it to a number of others, but I was the first to report, and that's why they didn't believe me.
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Mick Philpott. He wanted to show that his ex was violent and dangerous to their children and he wanted to play the hero. He devised a plan to set alight to his family home and he would "rescue" the children. Unfortunately, the fire took hold faster than he anticipated and all six of his children died. He then played the victim on TV shows and news until they discovered that he set the fire.
This guy was already a villain to begin with. Get a load of this from Wikipedia: In July 1978, aged 21, Philpott attempted to murder Kim Hill, his girlfriend of two years; their relationship began when she was aged 15. He had previously shot Hill in the groin with a crossbow because he felt her dress had been too short, and had cracked her kneecap with a hammer when she paid too much attention to a baby she had been minding. Philpott attempted to kill Hill by stabbing her over a dozen times as she was lying in bed, because she sent him a letter saying she was leaving him. He also stabbed Hill's mother when she came to her daughter's aid. Hill suffered collapsed lungs and a punctured bladder, kidney and liver. Philpott was convicted of attempted murder of Hill, and grievous bodily harm with intent against her mother, and was sentenced to seven years in prison in December 1978.Philpott was released after three years and two months. What the everlasting f**k?
"Cracked her kneecap with a hammer" because she PAID *TOO MUCH* ATTENTION TO A BABY she was tasked with caring for? WTF? Where do I even begin with that?!
Load More Replies...He also tried to get his ex girlfriend arrested for starting the fire, cuz she left him and took her kids. Why? First cuz Mick is a narcissistic psychopath and couldn't accept the fact that she left him and second cuz he lost benefit money cuz she took the kids. Luckily, she had an alibi so the police didn't charge her, also there was tons of evidence pointing to Mick.
As someone who is British, I would like to say that the legal system has only recently "cracked down on domestic violence;" and so many cases still over looked. I'm 57, and I can still remember the campaign to make rape in marriage illegal.
You can't go past YouTube, there's lots to watch. His current wife was in on it too. I think he had 11 kids all up. The whole story is a trainwreck that should never have come that the conclusion.
Load More Replies...and then the right wing media made out it was because he was on benefits. it was disgusting. his actions were nothing to do with the fact he was on benefits, and everything to do with him just being an awful person
Not mentioned here but I remember a TV (BBC) item when Ann Widdecombe was an MP. She made a documentary showing her sharing his family's life and how she tried to help him into work. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-22018006
We also were curious to hear if they had any favorites. “The one where that guy burned his house down to "save his kids" took me on a mini deep dive. He also had a horrible record before that. Kind of messed up to call it my "favorite", more like the one I found most interesting,” they shared.
Dave Kroupa had been dating casually after his 12-year relationship ended and ended up meeting a woman named Cari Farver. They hit it off instantly and spent a lot of time together over the next few weeks. This was until Cari texted Dave at work and asked if they could move in together - this was a shock to Dave and he said no. Cari then sent a super nasty response and basically told him to f**k off.
Dave then started getting bombarded with texts and emails from Cari. The harassment, already relentless and almost daily, started to expand to include other people in Dave’s life, like his recent ex (sort of) girlfriend Liz Golyar. Liz became a constant target of Cari’s stalking and harassment.
Things escalated - at one point Liz’s house burned down. (I suggest looking up this case for the full details because there’s so much more to this story).
As it turned out, Liz had k**led Cari - ostensibly out of jealousy of Cari’s quickly growing relationship with Dave. Liz then began impersonating Cari and sending messages pretending to be Cari. That’s right, Liz was the one behind all those messages.
The whole story is absolutely WILD. I suggest checking out the book “A Tangled Web” by Leslie Rule for the full story. It’s absolutely nuts. .
Yeah I was going to say--was there a Netflix film on this? Because it sounds familiar. Now I gotta go watch that...
Load More Replies...I watched a couple of documentaries about this case and it's crazy as hell.
Oh, I saw this story on Dateline or 20/20 or something - it was really crazy!
One famous case is when Lance Armstrong was initially seen as a victim of doping allegations, but later it came out he had been using performance-enhancing d***s all along.
Additionaly, he was a real effing bully to all of his teammates, basically all of his career
He absolutely destroyed the Andreus, his former best friends.
Load More Replies...Utter douchebag. Still didn't even sound apologetic even in the latest documentary.
I think there were also allegations that his bikes were motorized, or at least "power-assist."
I saw Lance with Sheryl on an episode of Oprah in 2005 and I ordered 10 of them LIVESTRONG bracelets. Duped.
Karen Matthews. Faked her daughters kidnapping not long after Madeline McCann went missing so that she could get money. She hid her inside a bed at a friends house and planned to collect the reward money. People actually felt sorry for her, thinking her daughter was missing and it was a huge police investigation. Ended up in jail for kidnapping, perverting the course of justice and false imprisonment.
Hid her "inside" the bed? Like what? Between the 2 mattresses? Was the kid still alive?
“I was expecting to get at least a few more personal-sounding answers. Not celebrity cases that got blown out of proportion. It's easier to "relate" (I guess) to smaller things that not many people know about. Plus it would've been more inspiring and realistic for what I want my story to sound like.”
I used to install security cameras as a side job. I was asked to help out a lady going through a horrible divorce. Her soon to be ex-husband was sending her threatening text messages from burner phones, he was coming by all hours of the night and breaking windows, and a few times attempted to set their house on fire. A friend of hers reached out to me and explained the situation and asked if I could help her in any way.
I purchased cameras and an NVR and went over one night in February and installed the whole system, wires and all. I never felt scared during any of my installations, some of which were in really bad neighborhoods, but this psycho had me worried, so I did this job armed. After finishing up, I showed her how the system works and told her to call me if she ever needed anything else.
A couple weeks later I get a call from a fire investigator asking me for help in recovering video. He told me that the guy had returned, broke out a first floor window, and threw in a Molotov Cocktail causing the first floor of the house to be engulfed in flames. The woman and her two daughters were trapped upstairs. The police showed before the fire department, and they had to grab an extension ladder from a neighbors house and rescue the family through a second floor window. One of the girls was taken to the hospital for smoke inhalation.
I walked the guy through the process of pulling up the video. Once he got to the right time on the camera facing the bathroom window he said, “The video just goes blank.” I told him that I set the video cameras to be super sensitive to movement, so the only way it can go blank is if the camera is removed or damaged in some way. I directed him to a camera that would cover the area under the camera that goes blank and he should see someone mess with it. He tells me that nobody ever approached it. I then informed him that the only way that this scenario is possible is if the guy got into the house and disconnected the feed from inside.
We concluded our conversation since he would now need to pour through a lot of video in order to find this man going into the house. About a month passes by and I am driving to work. I hear the woman’s name who I had been helping mentioned on the radio during a news segment. I start paying attention and soon find myself feeling weightless in my chair. It had not been her husband at all; she had been the one doing all these things in order to get her husband arrested and sent to jail.
She had bought burner phones to send herself text messages. She had been going out at night and breaking the windows. She had been taking the family out to dinner, excusing herself to go to the restroom, then driving home to break a window and try to set the house on fire before returning to the restaurant. She had been the one to disconnect the camera from inside the house the night that she almost k**led her kids in an attempt to frame her husband. I thought I was protecting her from a psycho, but turns out I was helping the psycho.
TLDR: I thought I was helping a “victim” by protecting her from her soon to be ex husband, but she was trying to frame him by risking her kids lives.
This is what the original poster was asking about. PERSONAL experience or somebody you know.
Perhaps this? https://www.newarkadvocate.com/story/news/crime/2016/05/26/woman-charged-setting-fire-own-house-children-inside/84982770/
7 years and 3 months. https://www.newarkadvocate.com/story/news/crime/2016/11/28/woman-sentenced-burning-house-blaming-husband/94211746/
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Katie Sorensen, the nut job "momfluencer" who claimed a couple was following her through a shopping center, plotting to kidnap her children, supposedly because they were so good looking. Turns out the other couple were just shopping at the same time, did absolutely nothing wrong at all, and she just wanted attention and more followers.
Funny but true story my baby was a ridiculously adorable baby, people would ask if they could take photos and cooed over them non stop. But at an indoor market this one lady started following us around and then approached me and asked if she could sit and take numerous photos up close because they made those lifelike baby dolls and wanted to make one that looked like my baby. I said no, and quickly left because she looked incredibly upset when I said no. It would be so creepy to think there were dolls out there that looked like my kiddo.
Good grief, hell to the no. You earn the right to ask intimate questions like that by being goods friends with someone for a long time first.
Load More Replies...I was shopping yesterday and there was a couple in the shop I accidentally bumped into the lady and apologised carried on shopping, and this couple where up every aisle I went down then I went to the till and they were in front of me. I then went to a local fast food place for lunch and as I was going out they were coming in. I didn't think they were following me and they probably didn't think I was following them. Weird coincidences like this happen all the time.
this happened in my wife's and i former home, sonoma county, ca. we were shocked reading this.
Anna Aayala. She claimed she found a fingertip in a bowl of Wendy's chili. The press coverage cost the company over 20 million in losses. Turns out the finger came from a co-worker of her husband who lost it in a work accident and she intentionally planted it.
How did her and her husband end up with the finger in the first place? Wouldn't an attempt at reattachment be the first option? Its not like I'm at work like...oh hey! A finger! Im taking that home with me.
I worked for the carrier when this happened. It was a thumb. Ex-husband's coworker cut off his thumb in an accident but thumb wasn't found when coworker went to the hospital. Ex-husband found the thumb and got it to his ex wife. She made the chili claim so they could make money. Both were prosecuted..
Load More Replies...That was WILD. Like I know this was a whole ago, but DNA evidence was still a thing!
Well, Wendy's chili is really good. Not 'finger-licking', but still very good.
Yep., I remember that instance. At the time I wonder where she got the finger after it came out that she planted the finger in the chili.
There are a few videos on YouTube about this that's pretty interesting.
“But yeah, I don't really post easy content like this for fame or popularity. I just like reading people's answers and learning more in my freetime. Sometimes they happen to get popular, sometimes I only get 10 comments. Either way, I just like to learn more about people,” they shared with Bored Panda.
That story about the Vallejo couple where the girlfriend was kidnapped and the police decided the boyfriend did it and everyone shamed him. But then it turned out that the police did a terrible job and it was an actual kidnapper the whole time.
They didn't just blame him they blamed her after she was released saying she gone girled herself for attention that poor girl was victimized twice
I'm guessing it's this story? : https://www.usnews.com/news/entertainment/articles/2024-01-18/kidnapping-of-california-woman-that-police-called-a-hoax-gets-new-attention-with-netflix-documentary#:~:text=via%20AP%2C%20File)-,VALLEJO%2C%20Calif.,docuseries%2C%20%E2%80%9CAmerican%20Nightmare.%E2%80%9D
That's a terrible story, but it doesn't fit the premise of this article.
Vallejo has serious problems. Nice looking town, though. Ten miles north.
In 1961, Captain Julian Harvey was found drifting at sea in a lifeboat with the lifeless body of a little girl by the name of René Duperrault. When he was rescued, he explained that he had been hired by the girl's family to sail them around the Florida Keys for vacation in a Ketche called the Bluebelle. He went on to explain that, the previous evening, a strong wind caused the main mast to snap and pierce the hull, causing the ship to sink. Worst still, a fire broke out, separating him from the family and the only other crew member, his own wife. He got into the lifeboat hoping to swing behind and hopefully get through the cabin from behind, but the ship had sunk rapidly and the other person he was able to recover was the already dead René. Truly a tragic story.
That was, until, three and a half days later Terry Jo Duperrault, the other daughter of the Duperrault family, was found drifting at sea in a small cork dinghy. She was dehydrated, starving, sunburned like hell, but alive. When she was healthy enough to make a statement, the story she told was very different from Harvey's. She woke up to find her brother and her mother already dead and when Captain Harvey saw her, shouted at her to go back to her cabin. She did so, cowering under the covers, and says that Harvey was standing at the door of her cabin. She thinks that maybe he was holding his brother's rifle, but she's not completely sure. He eventually left and, when the water started to fill her room, she went up on deck. Harvey got her help to undo the life raft, however, when the rope slipped through her fingers, he dove into the water after it, leaving her on the sinking vessel. She then remembered the cork dinghy and crawled into it. As you can see, her account is very different from Harvey's and, most notable, there never was a fire.
Sadly, we'll likely never know the full story as Harvey would take his own life hours after Terry Jo was found.
I’m more inclined to believe Terry Jo. Incidentally, this sounds a little like the start of Life of Pi.
Also reminds me of the book Dead Calm, by Charles Williams.
Load More Replies...Terry Jo wrote a book about it. Very interesting. It's called Alone: Orphaned on the Ocean.
Carolyn Bryant, who told people Emmit Till harassed her and did nothing knowing her husband m***ered him.
As much as it must have pained his mother to let a picture of his severely beaten body (his face – Jesus) in his casket to be photographed and shown, I have immense respect for her! That picture serves as a reminder that as humanity we can't allow ourselves to go back! PS: Carolyn, the woman who accused Emmett, died last year, and despite admitting that she fabricated the whole story that led to a child being brutally murdered, could still not bring herself to apologise.
And her family hid her for years to "protect" her. Garbage, all of them.
Load More Replies...Ow f**k! It is just some unfortunate person with the same name! 😦 but with quit the opposite story! Note from pic page : " Carolyn Bryant, an ACS family advocacy program specialist speaks at an event called "Walk a Mile in Her Shoes" where men wear high-heel shoes while walking one mile to promote the fight against violence towards women Sept. 22, 2012 at Rose Barracks. The event was hosted by Army Community Service."
Load More Replies...Just my thought, it's been 16 h and still wrong pic, I even reported it!
Load More Replies...Bored Panda, you did ESPECIALLY dirty with this stock photo. You just googled "Carolyn Bryant" and just... chose a photo of a woman named that. This is NOT the Carolyn Bryant in question. This crime happened in 1955. That was ALMOST 70 YEARS AGO. The ACTUAL Carolyn Bryant involved in this travesty of justice died last year... AT THE AGE OF 88. Come on. At least use a photo of Emmett Till, the ACTUAL victim in this situation.
The kid was only 14, if I'm reading it right. She accused a FOURTEEN year old, a CHILD and got him viciously murdered for no reason
Emmett's crime was "being black in the South during the Jim Crow era". Black people were still segregated from white people in the South at that time. They were not allowed to use the same facilities as white people. Black people were not allowed in the same buses or train cars as white people. They were not allowed in the schools, libraries, waiting rooms, beaches, etc. that were for white people. White people and black people couldn't eat in the same diners/restaurants unless they were partitioned off from each other. It was unlawful in Florida for white teachers to teach black students. It was illegal to bury a black person in a white-people-only cemetery in Georgia. And, of course, it was illegal to engage in miscegenation - interracial marriages were against the law. And the racism and discrimination continues today, even though we've "ostensibly" repealed the Jim Crow Laws. And it's not just black people - ALL people of color (including Asians) are STILL discriminated against.
Load More Replies...This is probably a really unpopular opinion, but I don't think she's the -only- one to blame for Mr. Till's death. She lied, yes, and it was a disgusting, horrible lie that she probably knew was going to have the impact it did (though maybe not). She was a horrible person. But I don't like how she's always the only one called out for it, as if the gang of men who actually committed murder had no other choice.... Had those men been decent, or even non-violent, Mr. Till would probably still be alive today. No matter what they heard, they didn't -have- to hurt him. They're even more responsible than she was, but do we even know their names? Were they ever tried or punished? Why are we not talking about them?
Karla Leanne Homolka, the “Barbie” in “The Barbie and Ken K***ers.” She was thought of as the victim of Paul Bernado’s abuse, being forced into participating in his r***s and m***ers. This included the one where Paul r***d and accidentally m***ered her younger sister, Tammy Homolka.
She went to the police to report Paul after a particularly bad beating from him that left her in hospital. She was given a plea deal and her lawyer covered up the tape recordings that showed her willingly participating in the r***s and m***ers. Once this information was let out, it was too late. The plea deal was made, Paul was arrested and is still in prison and she got out and now is working around children in a school.
I f*****g hate that nasty b***h. She was abused by him, yeah, but it disgusts me that she willingly participated in the m***ers and r***s. Oh, and she married the brother of the lawyer who represented her. She’s able to live a normal life whereas the three teenagers she helped k**l never got to start theirs.
How the hell is she allowed to work with kids? She goaded him on to ŕ a p e and m u r d e r her own little sister!
Oh the parents found out who she was. And through word of mouth she's been rightfully ostracised by the community.
Load More Replies...She participated willingly in the murders. She wasn't a victim of anything, they deserved each other. She is the same kind of monster he is.
She was the spark that turned Bernardo from rapist to murderer. Before her, he didn't kill his victims. There is a connection between Bernardo and another notorious Canadian criminal - Russell Williams. They could possibly know each other. During the period of the Scarborough Rapist, both lived in the area and police believed there may have been more than one rapist. Colonel Williams went on to be the base commander at CFB Trenton - the largest military base in Canada (I think)... and a rapist/murderer.
Load More Replies...This woman and the crimes were from a place nearby to me and though I was still a child at the time, I remember the years when she was released and then granted permission both to change her name and get her passport back. People tracked her down and found out she’d left the country but then moved to another province in Canada and even had a kid. She’s been granted fairly decent government protection since her release and even with the release of the tapes, the country is split on her release and how we feel about her overall.
Not sure the country is split over how we feel about her overall. I'm thinking 99% of us hate her with every fibre of our being.
Load More Replies...Disturbing facts about this case: Karla was never charged with a sex offence. Her plea deal was made after the video tapes were found but before they were viewed. She played the battered woman and got only 12 years for manslaughter despite videos showing her clear participation in the sexual assaults. She drugged and sexually assaulted her own sister - who then choked on her own vomit and died. The plea deal didn't include any charges for her sister's death. She stayed in jail for her full sentence because getting out early (parole) meant she could be monitored by law enforcement. She got married and had kids after her release. She volunteered at their school!! Paul Bernardo and Russell Williams might have known each other. They could have both been the Scarborough Rapidt.
I was roughly the same age as the victims had been when this case went to trial here in Toronto, and I cannot even begin to describe how horrific it was to me as a 16 year old girl. This was the first of three serial killer cases that I doubt I ever cease to have a visceral reaction to - the others being Robert Pickton (as I wrote in another thread recently, I know the daughter of one of his victims) and Bruce McArthur (who found most of his victims in my neighbourhood/community; I walked by some of their faces on "missing" posters daily for years before he was caught.)
I just listened to a podcast about a girl Mackenzie Shirilla. Basically she, her boyfriend and another friend were involved in a crash that k**led the boyfriend and the friend.
She was a driver and she survived. At first it seemed like maybe there was some fault in the car or that she simply lost control of the vehicle, but as the investigation went on they realized she planned the crash and ran into that wall on purpose. It was a crazy listen!
EDIT: Since a lot of you are asking - I listened to it on the Sword and Scale podcast, Episode 274!
Saw the video over a year ago and I could not (still can't) wrap my mind around it! She purposely drove that car into a wall. And then the performance in court afterwards, I have no words. Please watch the vid!
Is this the one where there's video of the cop meeting her parents at the hospital and telling them what happened, to their absolute horror?
I watched her sentencing.I don't have any sympathy for Mackenzie: she didn't seem to realise what she had done until the judge tore into her and deservedly so. As for her mother, well, do you ever come to terms with the tremendous guild you must feel that your daughter has killed two of her best friends and caused irreparable damage to two families? And being torn between wanting your daughter home at some point but knowing she deserves what she got?
Alicia Esteve Head is a Spanish businesswoman who claimed to be a survivor of the attacks on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, under the name Tania Head. She joined the World Trade Center Survivors' Network support group, later becoming its president. Her name was regularly mentioned in media reports of the attacks. In 2007, it was revealed Head's story was a hoax; she was not in New York City on September 11, 2001, but in reality was attending classes in her native city, Barcelona.
There's a documentary about this called The woman who wasn't there. Some of the stories she told were so detailed that it's creepy how good she was at lying.
The horrible thing is that she would lean on real survivors for "support," telling really evocative traumatic tales (lies) to real survivors who had tried to forget and brought them flashbacks. It's a top notch scumbag that not only fakes tragedy for attention, but makes real victims pamper h er
Load More Replies...Yet, another documentary I've seen on YouTube and this woman was massively f****d up!
Penny Boudreau... Daughter was missing, went on TV as the "grieving" mother... Turns out she k**led her 12 year old daughter, Karissa, in order to save her relationship with her boyfriend.
Karissa's dad would have taken her. Super sad.
This happened in my hometown. There is a book written about the murder called "Mommy Don't", which were the last words the little girl said before she died. I cry every time I think of that.
Leah, I just recently learned of this, and read that book - there's another, written by a detective, I believe, but after reading Mommy Don't, I just couldn't read any more about that, just hurt too much. I sincerely hope that Penny Boudreau is never released, and that she burns in hell when she finally dies. She PLANNED for DAYS to kill Karissa!!! I just can't even fathom such a thing. I visited Karissa's memorial by the river, left her a gift. It was so emotional to see in-person. Karissa's teacher at that time transferred to my town's school at some point - my son had him as a teacher during the pandemic - he retired the year after my son had him.
Load More Replies...Justin Timberlake. It's insane how classy Britney was when he was accusing her of cheating on him when in reality he was banging strippers for years before she kissed one guy ONCE and he made best selling albums about how she essentially destroyed his perfect life by cheating on him.
Look at how he laid all of the blame for the Super Bowl at Janet Jackson's feet. He walked away getting to make jokes about the incident and was able to further his career while she was treated as a pariah and took a serious hit to her career. After being given the ultimate pass he is still just a basic boy standing in Janet Jackson's shadow.
Natalia Grace's adoptive parents who claimed she was an adult when they adopted her.
She was actually a child, not the diabolical mastermind akin to the movie Orphan.
I can’t understand how the parents were believed by anybody. There are photos of her when adopted and she grew bigger afterwards, like a child does, not an adult.
Load More Replies...If you watch any interviews or documentaries on this, I guarantee that after listening to the so called "parents", you will want to punch a hole in your television. I hope their lives are miserable until the day they die.
Those people are f*****g horrible for what they did to that little girl!
I worry that the movie kinda is and isn't true, not on poor Natalia Grace, but for some other kid, like my sister, Because my younger sister is 36 years old {im 39 now} and she keeps getting looked at as a 13-year-old, or if we go to a bar or something, I keep getting asked to "not bring my kid in" to places like "that", and she has to pull her id out...
Recently i saw how she had been doing very shady things with her new pastor family. Google it.
Yeah there is going to be a follow up because just as they finished that documentary her new family was trying to kick her out.
Load More Replies...She came from abuse and all she got was more abuse. What do you expect? She has a disability and she was treated like rubbish.
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I don’t remember her name, I think it was Sherri Papini, but there was a YouTube video I watched of a girl who faked her own kidnapping, and was trying to play victim. While all the resources were going to finding Sherri, there was a women who was actually kidnapped. She ended up serving jail time.
The whole time she was having a fling with a guy other than her husband, sicko.
Again, another disgusting human being blaming POC. This time, 2 Latina women.
She was with her ex who admitted that at her request, he banged her up with a hockey stick all at her direction. He was charged with no crimes.
The Charles Stuart case in Boston in 1989. Initially a husband and his pregnant wife, Charles and Carol Stuart, were reported attacked in their car at night and the wife was k**led and he husband badly injured. A huge police manhunt was on for the k***er, alleged to be a " black man" by the husband.After much drama it turned out that it was a carefully staged m***er perpetrated by the husband. Charles Stuart k***ed himself when he was about to be charged for m***er.
It’s so disgusting how many of these people try to cover up their lies by accusing Black folks.
They accuse black people because they know they will be believed. They know a lot of people are racist and will easily believe a black person is a violent criminal.
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And the police went full force into the housing projects and violated the rights of 100s of people living there and the city swept the whole thing under the rug after.
Jesse Anderson did the same exact thing in Milwaukee not long after - probably where he got the idea. Fortunately, both he and Jeffrey Dahmer were both killed in prison by Christopher Scarver. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Anderson
Right from the beginning I suspected the husband. Just had a feeling he was lying.
There are some videos on YouTube about this that are really interesting to watch.
Bethany Storro was the victim of an acid attack that was racially motivated in Vancouver, Washington.
Turns out she maimed herself trying to commit s***ide with acid. She chickened out of drinking it after pouring it on her face, I remember watching an unhinged interview after she was found out. Her reasoning was that all the attention would allow her to tell people about Jesus.
In this one case I'm going to play the "mental issue" card. If she was trying to kill herself there was a huge red flag there. I'm not defending what she did, but she wasn't thinking logically. Also, she didn't harm anybody else, so I feel sorry for her.
Tracie Andrews. She appeared on TV appealing for the road rage driver that k**led her BF to give himself up. Only thing is that she was the one that had stabbed the BF over 40 times until he died.
In 1864 a train pulled into London carrying a bloodied unconscious man, Franz Müller. Police were alerted and when the man came to Müller told them as they were riding 2 men approached him and tried to rob him. However Mr Muller fought back, was shot, and then left behind as the robbers jumped off the train.
What actually happened was Franz Müller attacked a Mr Thomas Briggs, a 69 yo banker, and robbed him of his gold chain and pocket watch. Later in the day Mr Briggs would be found unconscious lying on the tracks because Müller shot him and threw Briggs off the train. Briggs would soon pass away from his injuries.
Police were super suspicious and then a p**n shop owner came forward identifying Müller as selling him Briggs' gold chain. London Police issued a warrant however Muller had already fled the hospital and boarded a sail ship for New York. Scotland Yard Inspectors took a steamship to NY beating Muller by weeks. They and an entire crowd of people were waiting at the docks when Muller arrived.
And that's the story of the first m***er on a train. There's a cool book about it, Mr Briggs' Hat.
Seriously BP? Censoring the word P**n? Come on, this is just silly.
P a w n, yes, but they don't censor PORN shop... 🤷♂️
Load More Replies...Is the censorship being done by a faulty algorithm, or are human censors making poor decisions?
For those of you wondering, that's p*awn where you exchange goods for a temporary loan of money, not the other sort.
Joe Gliniewicz, Illinois cop that staged his s****de to look like he was m***ered by assailants. Police and community rallied behind his widow for weeks. Search for the assilants. Funds were collected and donated, tributes were made. Turns out he committed s****de because he been embezzling money from a police program and he was about to be found out.
Why use a UK Met Police photo? Surely there are photos of police cars in the USA, BP? 🙄
I'm beginning to wonder if AI is inserting the pictures. So many are so far off base.
Load More Replies...Assuming she wasn't in on it, his widow would have deserved sympathy and support either way, and I hope she wasn't unreasonably vilified after the truth was known, leaving her in a terrible position.
There was speculation that she knew, and she got 2 years of probation for "deceptive practice", down from accusations of money laundering and disbursement of charitable funds. So no real need for sympathy, sadly.
Load More Replies...I remember this vividly; a very frightening time for the entire community.
Corey Harris. He’s the guy who went viral earlier this year for showing up at a zoom court hearing driving while on suspended license. He spent two days in jail. Then it was reported that Harris should’ve had his license reinstated 2 years prior. Harris’ attorney sets up interviews with local TV stations stating his innocence. Good Morning America does a piece on Harris and lectures the viewer to not judge a book by its cover. Harris goes back to court, the judge does his homework, and discovers Harris has never had a license in Michigan or any other state, yet has been to Secretary of State office multiple times to renew his ID. The opportunity was there for him to get a license, he chose not to. He goes viral again but because he lied and embarrassed so many people along the way.
If he never had a licence how did he manage to have it reinstated? I can't understand this story.
He got his state ID renewed, not a driver license.
Load More Replies... The Roxanne Pallett “punchgate” incident on Celebrity Big Brother. She accused another housemate (Ryan Thomas) of punching her and spent the next couple of days convincing the other participants that this occurred and generally turning the house against him.
Don’t get me wrong, it was immediately evident to the audience watching at home that she was a lying POS. But with the housemates, they initially believed her and confronted Ryan and made his time at the house generally unpleasant. All the while, Ryan was in an isolated environment not knowing what his family/the general public were thinking back home… it was actually awful that the producers let it play off for so long.
Anywho, next eviction vote comes and iirc the housemates could hear the general public outside chanting Ryan’s name and jeering Roxanne. You could see the penny drop for all of the other housemates. Roxanne soon left of her own accord in disgrace and tried to play the victim card… until it turned out that she had pulled this c**p on multiple occasions in private settings with colleagues, etc. Her career is now absolutely well and truly in the toilet. Oh, and Ryan ending up winning the competition.
Honestly, watch a video on it. Not usually a fan of c**p reality tv but it honestly was like some sort of cruel social experiment that needed to be shut down but wasn’t.
All TV chains worry about is money. Here in Spain, one housemate raped his drunk "girlfriend" in full sight of the camera, but the wonderful Big Brother team didn't stop the aggression. They didn't stop broadcasting either. She didn't remember anything next day, so they told her in one of those "confession sessions" to show her reaction to the audience. Pure s**t. I don't know all the details because I've never watched this show, which I find revolting and degrading. In general, I don't feel sorry for the idiots who willingly participate in this kind of rubbish, but I feel sorry for this girl. I don't know what happened afterwards, but I do hope she found help to cope with it.
Maybe it's because I'm from another country, but "Celebrity Big Brother" implies celebrities, and these don't ring a bell
Yes i remember that, poor Ryan it was hell in the house for him and the way she was going on after it was horrible, i think at one point she started to believe her own lies, nasty B!tch and Ryan and his family are doing amazing, check out the family tictok page its so funny 😂🤣
Balloon Boy Hoax: Panicky parents called police, claimed their young son was missing and had likely been carried aloft by a home-built helium balloon, which peaked at 7000 ft. Witnesses claimed something had fallen from it while it was ascending. When balloon eventually came down, boy wasn't in it.
Child was later found hiding in the attic. Whole thing was revealed as a publicity stunt when child was asked by Wolf Blitzer why he was hiding, and said to his dad "You guys said we did it for the show!"
Dad (failed actor and comedian) pleaded guilty to attempting to influence a public servant, was sentenced to 90 days and a $36K fine. Mom got 20 days to be served on weekends. Both were later pardoned by Colorado's idiot governor, Jared Polis.
They were trying for a reality show...which didn't happen. Poor people. (boo hoo)
There seem to be few depths that have not been plumbed by 'reality' shows. Their frantic search for ever-deeper shocks is the only reliable 'reality' they acknowledge.
Load More Replies...I was wondering why this story was so far down the list. We even heard about this in’s Australia, when it happened.
I remember all of the press about this because the story went National.
International. I remember it being on the news in the UK
Load More Replies...How fing big would that ballon have had to be to lift a kid? Google: lifting capacity for helium, 1 gram per liter of helium.
Try googling Lawnchair Larry. It would be incredibly easy to build one that lifts a kid.
Load More Replies...That white racist b***h who m****red Emitt Till.
Not to diminish her guilt (she lied and never showed remorse), the actual deed was done by her husband and his half-brother. To cap it off: In September 1955, an all-white jury found Bryant [the husband] and Milam [the half-brother] not guilty of Till's murder. Protected against double jeopardy, the two men publicly admitted in a 1956 interview with Look magazine that they had tortured and murdered Till, selling the story of how they did it for $4,000. (Wikipedia)
https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/emmett-till.
Load More Replies...Years ago there was a local news story about a woman who was caught shoplifting baby supplies and formula. The cop that responded took pity on her because she had a young kid and no money, so instead of arresting her bought the stuff for her. A local business even went as far as to offer her a job and I happened to know the owner. A few days after the story I asked him if she got the job and he said no because every single one of her references said she was a massive kleptomaniac.
Boyfriend's roommate in college kept getting fired from places, because merchandise or cash would go missing, but he kept spinning it as not his fault. And to be fair, no place had enough to prosecute, they would just fire him or cut his hours. After he moved out, one of the roommate's mom gets some fraudulent checks written, in familiar handwriting. Such a POS
Totally might not be the case, but it would really suck if you stole supplies due to being poor and having a baby, then couldn't get a job because you stole stuff. Not saying it's right, and not saying it's what she did... It's just a sad possibility.
Dee Dee Blanchard.
Was k**led and her disabled daughter kidnapped. She was well loved but so there was a lot of shock and sorry for her daughter.
Turns out that Dee Dee had been faking her daughter's disabilities and had been abusing her horribly. The k***er was her daughter's secret boyfriend.
Dee Dee was a f*****g monster. I completely understand the daughter's mindset of, "I didn't know how else to get out the situation, so... death." (Not saying it's justified, though) Professional doctors, lawyers, cops, people who should PROTECT her were surrounding her for her entire messed up life, and they never intervened! Still really depressing that her boyfriend got booked and dumped though.
In my opinion, the mother got what she deserved. She was a monster. Somebody, in all those years, should have taken two minutes to investigate what was happening and help the girl, but nobody cared.
Load More Replies...Christopher Watts. Horrible what he did and to have the audacity to go on the news and lie about wanting his wife and daughters to return, I'm glad he's rotting away in prison.
In the early hours of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, American oil field operator Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985) murdered his pregnant wife Shanann (34) by strangulation, and their two children Bella (4) and Celeste (3) by suffocation. He buried Shanann in a shallow grave near an oil-storage facility, and dumped his children's bodies into crude oil tanks. Watts initially maintained his innocence in his family's disappearance, but was arrested on August 15, after confessing in an interview with detectives to murdering Shanann. He later admitted to murdering his children.
On August 15, 2018, the FBI joined the search for Shanann and her daughters. Chris Watts was administered a polygraph test, which he failed. He subsequently confessed to his father Ronnie, and then to authorities, that he had killed Shanann, but falsely claimed that he did so because Shanann had smothered their daughters. Chris relayed that he had discovered Bella's corpse, and that when he found Shanann in the process of strangling Celeste, he strangled Shanann in a fit of rage, before disposing of their bodies at Anadarko, the oil field where he worked. Chris was arrested that day. He got 5 life sentences plus 48 years, no parole.
Load More Replies...We always have the local news on while making dinner and I remember seeing the interview he did the day after they supposedly disappeared, pleading for their return. i actually said, "I hope he didn't kill them!" The way he conducted himself in the interview... you knew something was terribly off about him. Apparently, a lot of viewers picked up on it, as well.
He kept referring to the victims in the past tense as well, a major tell that he knew damn well they were dead.
Load More Replies...I remember that a bunch of the First Responders, basically everyone involved in recovering the bodies had to attend therapy because the bodies were in such bad shape. Shanann's Parents had the funeral services recorded and there is also a bunch of true crime videos that show their gravesite.
It's local (Greece), but it has not precedence so far. A woman by the name Roula Pispirigou is accused of k**ling all of her three children, out of spite and jealously for her husband.
They had an on and off relationship. She became pregnant, they got married. She gave birth to three girls. The second daughter was in the early stages of Leukemia , but the doctors considered it completely viable. She died unexpectadly and without any cause related to her condition. At some point, in the same timeline, the first daughter was also admitted at the hospital.
Three years later, the third daughter, dies in her crib. SIDS is considered the cause of death. Special tests for hereditary deseceases come back, negative. The only remaining child,the first daugther ends up in the hospital once again. While being treated she goes into some type of a shock. They revive her after trying for 50 minutes. She comes back, tetraplegic.
You can all imagine, how everyone was viewing her. The poor woman, with the unfaithful husband that lost two children and her last one, was left with special needs. That is until, her daughter dies, while being at the hospital. Now all three children are gone.
The prosecutor gets involved and everything starts to roll out. How conviniently, a child was either admitted to the hospital or died, because the husband had left the house or moved out.
Currently she is incarcerate with a lifetime sentence, convicted of k**ling her three children.
Bad things happen for (apparently) no reason. Authorities may well have been 'looking into ' this for a while but, for many reasons, they don't announce what they're looking at till they have thorough evidence of a crime. Police are not vigilantes.
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Chris Benoit.
First off everybody assumed that someone had k**led him, his wife and his 8 year old son.
Then we discovered it was a double m***er-s****de, that took place over 2-3 days, and that his son was in the house with the body of his dead mum for a period of that time, and the Chris with the bodies of both of them, for a while longer.
WWE jumped on a memorial episode of Raw, the day after the 3 of them were found. A few days later, they had to "come clean" about what the actual truth was.
Horrible for the wife and poor kid, end ur own life if you want, not others.. i did hear recently that he had a brain tumour or something along the lines of that and he wasnt his usual self around that time 🤷
Chronic traumatic encephalopathy. Massive brain damage from repeated head trauma. Benoit had been wrestling since his teen years. His signature move was a flying headbutt, which is exactly what it sounds like. Reports show that he had been abusive to his wife for a while. Likely exacerbated by the injuries, but this was still a monstrous incident.
Load More Replies...Chris Benoit's Autopsy showed that he had the brain of a 80+ year old Dementia patient. In 2005, 2 years before his murder/suicide his best friend and everyone refers to as his Anchor, Eddie Guerrero suddenly died at 38 years old. There was a bunch of things that took place over that weekend and prior to it, involving Nancy and her previous attempts to end her marriage to Chris. If you want to know more about the case you can search Wikipedia or there are so many documentaries on YouTube that you can watch. I watched Chris wrestle in the Attitude and Aggression Era with WWE and some of his previous fights with early promotions. Even given how f****d up things were with Nancy, no one saw this coming.
Not that this makes him innocent but the damage to his brain was significant. If an 80 year old dementia patient kills someone when they're out of touch with reality, it would technically be murder but they'd be found not criminally responsible. I truly believe in this case, Chris Benoit was not criminally responsible. Responsible - yes. But not criminally responsible.
I agree Smitin. CTE is the reason and cause of this tragic incident. Benoit was the person who committed the crime but he didn't know what he was doing and could not be held responsible had he not taken his own life. Knowing that CTE is prevalent in not only wrestling but football and some other sports, really makes me sad and concerned for the players who are no doubt going to end up with the disease. They know what is happening and choose to continue playing because they love the sport so much. I can only imagine the thoughts running through their heads if the disease progresses and they already know how horrific the outcome can be. Gives me chills just thinking about it.
Load More Replies...Regarding the Original post: Chris, Nancy and Daniel Benoit were discovered on Sunday during a welfare check, because he had a match that night and no one could get in contact with him. The Head Office at WWE was notified by the Police Department and the ONLY information they were given was the discovery of their bodies. The Sunday night show was cancelled and on Monday Night Raw they aired a Memorial show instead of the current storyline that was supposed to take place. After MNR had aired the WWE and Vince McMahon were notified of what actually happened. They did Air a segment, explaining to the fans what happened and after that the Memorial episode was scrubbed from their site. I'm not a fan of VM, but if someone is going to post s**t at least get it halfway right.
While I will not condone what The Rabid Wolverine did, I will maintain that the true murderer was Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE). Imagine a 40-year old man with the mind and brain condition of a 90-year old with dementia. That's how bad Benoit's condition had deteriorated. Uncle Eddie's (Guerrero) passing didn't help his condition much either. All-in-all, Benoit is guilty, but NOT totally.
That one lady who said some black guys kidnapped then drowned her children only to find them drowned in her car.
Susan Smith. Disgusting how she viewed her children as inconvenient objects. Then played on prejudices. Throughout history, various groups have been used as convenient scapegoats for crimes.
Hoping for life in prison here, anything else is to easy..
Load More Replies...Wasn't that so she could run off with some BF who wasn't interested in taking on kids?
I think their crimes should be remembered, but their names should be forgotten.
Load More Replies...Heres a good article on all her outrageous prison infractions: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4923748/Susan-Smith-s-secret-life-sex-d***s-bars.html
Belle Gibson. Claimed she had cancer, claimed she beat it through diet. Claimed to donate $1m to cancer hospital. Didn’t have cancer. Didn’t donate. Lied about everything. Played the victim too. Who knows how many people died following her “advice”.
I had breast cancer and in my support group there are so many women who are refusing treatment and just trying to cure it though diet and supplements
I hope they succeed or, even, maybe take medical advice from actual doctors who have trained for many years to qualify. Anyone can call themself a 'dietitian' - it's no guarantee that they know any more than you do about how to deal with cancer, or any other medical problem
Load More Replies... Ana Julia Quezada.
She was dating a divorced man who had an 8 year old son. One day, the kid goes missing and the news started interviewing the parents. She would always stand next to the dad crying and begging the kidnapper that, if they're watching, to please give back the kid (I remember this very vividly watching the news).
Turns out, there was no kidnapping. She'd k**led the kid the very first day of his disappearance and played her part around her boyfriend and the news.
People believe she did it out of jealousy and in hopes of convincing her boyfriend to move to her country to get over his kid. Her 4 year old daughter had also died in 1996 in some strange circumstances.
If something in these shorts interests you I would encourage you to do your own further research. The whole internet lies at your fingertips, dive in.
Load More Replies... Hellena Taylor when she was replaced on *Bayonetta 3*.
She was the original voice actress for Bayonetta in the first two games. About two years ago she came out with an angry statement that she had been offered what sounded like a rather low amount of money for the third game, then replaced by Jennifer Hale. The entire vibe was that it was an intentional low-ball to get rid of her. She insisted that fans should boycott the game.
You saw the response immediately on Reddit. People wanted to jump to her defense and criticized Platinum Games.
Slowly the rest of the story began to come out. She was apparently demanding a ridiculous fee, plus royalties. She had lied or at the very least deliberately misrepresented the deal previously. She increasingly came off as a little unhinged and vindictive, with an inflated sense that *she* was responsible for the success of the games and irreplaceable. For several days it seemed like a new detail was coming out every day that kept making her look worse and worse.
It was particularly interesting to see this happen in such a short period of time. To watch the public opinion shift as more information was revealed with each subsequent day. It really showed the importance of getting all the facts, hearing from multiple sides, and not immediately falling for rage-bait Internet drama in fan culture.
VA's barely get a decent wage as is, so what was Hellena Taylor demanding for it to be considered ridiculous?
It was the royalties that made it absolutely beyond considering. It's just not done in that industry and she didn't have the clout to suddenly change everything
Load More Replies... Alex Murdaugh - he garnerered lots of sympathy for the m***er of his wife and son, and his attempted m***er. When it came out that he'd stolen millions from his legal clients, likely arranged for his wife and son's deaths and definitely arranged for his own attempted m***er, it was...not a good look.
Did I mention all the d***s? Lots of those.
The Son that was murdered was being investigated and sued by a girl that he killed in a speedboat "accident" furthermore he was also being investigated in the hit and run death of another young man while he was intoxicated. AM had used his position to try and cover-up the hit and run and has also been implicated in the possible murder of his housekeeper in order to steal her Insurance settlement.
Attorney John Meadors delivered the state's reply and final argument. The jury was charged and began deliberating on March 2. On March 2, 2023, after less than three hours of deliberation, the jury found Murdaugh guilty of two counts of murder and two counts of possession of a weapon during a violent crime.
Many, many Germans, and quite some other Europeans truly believed for many years that Poland had attacked first when WWII began in Europe.
Look at the Russians believing Putin. Same. Even when they have more access to media showing the truth. Wilfully ignorant.
A caveat; all media claim to be telling the truth, and it's not that easy to differentiate , especially when the government is preventing one side from being heard. It's not fair to say people are 'wilfully ignorant' when they are subjected to daily government propaganda, and other views are suppressed. Many countries are 'silos' where the only information that's legally available is what the rulers want people to hear. Be kind to their citizens.
Load More Replies...Officially codenamed 'Operation Himmler, the Gleiwitz incident was a false flag attack on the radio station Sender Gleiwitz in Gleiwitz (then Germany and now Gliwice, Poland) staged by Nazi Germany on the night of 31 August 1939. Along with some two dozen similar incidents, the attack was manufactured by Germany as a casus belli to justify the invasion of Poland. Prior to the invasion, Adolf Hitler gave a radio address condemning the acts and announcing German plans to attack Poland, which began the next morning. Despite the German government using the attack as a justification to go to war with Poland, the Gleiwitz assailants were not Polish but were German SS officers wearing Polish uniforms. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
I rarely believe any ''terrorist attack'' that leads to a country going to war. I'd 95% likely it's a false flag every time. They all learned a lot from those Nazis.
Load More Replies...Thankfully, as a German born in 66, I grew up learning that this is a myth.
I've never heard of this before (I'm British). Were Germans told that they had gone to war because the Polish had invaded?
Load More Replies... So, doesn't necessarily fit with all the true crime responses involving "victims" who turned out to be perpetrators all along, but Shinzo Abe, Japan's former Prime Minister, who was assassinated in 2022. The assassin, Tetsuya Yamagami, targeted Shinzo for his support of the Unification Church. The assassin's mother was brainwashed by the church, donating most of the family's possessions to it, resulting in her children going without food and lingering family strife that included the assassin's brother committing s***ide, and the assassin himself attempting it. The assassin initially targeted the leader of the Church, but being unable to reach them, instead targeted Shinzo because of his and his family's close relationship with the Church, which includes the assassin's belief that this support from Shinzo and his grandfather, who was also Prime Minister, helped the Church get established and thrive in Japan.
The effect of the assassination was to highlight the nature of the Unification Church and its influence in Japanese politics. Shinzo Abe's ties to it were scrutinized, as were those of members of his cabinets, and politicians still in office. It hastened the reshuffle of the then-ruling cabinet and one or two political resignations over ties to the church. It also opened up the media to criticism for its lack of reporting on the tactics of the church and its victims. Furthermore, it generated legal efforts to strip the Church of its religious incorporation, strengthen laws against cults and their activities, and adopt policies to aid victims, particularly the children of cult members. Finally, publicity around the Church's activities and the assassin's plight have so tarnished Shinzo Abe's reputation and raised public sympathy for the assassin that prosecutors still haven't actually prosecuted the assassin for the crime.
Unification Church is the ones that planted chemical weapon in the subway of japan ?
No, that was Aum Shinrikyo. The Unification Church, aka The Moonies, are a Korean religious movement whose founder believed he was the second coming of Christ, it's generally considered a cult.
Load More Replies... I worked at a newspaper in college. We covered this story of a student who claimed she had been gang r**ed by multiple men, at a fraternity if I recall correctly. It was a horrifying story that sparked police investigations and temporarily stopped social activities on campus.
A few weeks later someone caught her preparing to fake her own kidnapping / hostage situation - she was found taping her own wrists and ankles together with duct tape, and had written a sign that said something like "help me." When the police interviewed her, she recanted all allegations, admitted that she had made it all up. I still don't even know what to make of that story.
Sounds like a pathological attention-seeker to me. What a horrible horrible thing to do!
Too many (a very small proportion, but still...) women falsely play the drape card, and it denigrates the real victims - both male and female - who are draped.
It’s not, it just gets more media attention because people believe it is
Load More Replies... Ian and Angela Diaz. The story appeared on 60 minutes.
In short, Ian (who was a Deputy U.S. Marshall) claimed that his ex Michelle Hadley was posting r**e fantasy adverts on Craigslist in an attempt to get Angela r**ed. Eventually, Michelle ended up arrested and sat in jail for 88 days as police investigated the matter. It was during that investigation that they realized things didn't add up.
It was all a ploy to frame Michelle as part of a twisted plot to get her to walk away from a condo she had purchased with Ian. At first it was assumed or implied Angela alone was responsible and she pleaded guilty and was sentenced to five years in prison. However, five years later Ian was found guilty for his participation in the plot and sentenced to 10 years in prison.
Angela plead guilty, Ian plead not guilty but was found guilty. Guilty pleas and plea deals commonly reduce sentences.
Load More Replies... Tracie Andrews immediately came to mind. She swore up and down her boyfriend was k**led in a road rage incident. This was the 90s in the UK. The police put together a press conference to appeal for information, but it was designed to catch Tracie out. She told the story wrong because she couldn't remember her lies.
Tracie had stabbed him 42 times.
Coco Berthmann and Amanda Riley. Both became D-list celebrities as "victimhood influencers." Both faked cancer diagnoses, then targeted religious institutions, non-profit organizations and/or gullible people to "raise funds for their treatment," made a ton of money, and eventually got caught. Coco's story also included a number of highly questionable claims about being abused.
My gf put on the podcasts about each of them on a long road trip, and I was the classic bf who initially scoffed but was quickly pulled in. What started as "once you go to sleep I'm putting on something else" turned into me binge-listening while she slept in the passenger seat LOL.
I dont remember the details of the case and can't find it on a search, but heres the details i do remember.
There was a guy who had an argument with an Uber/taxi driver when his wife complained about him. They were basically harassing each other back and forth.
Then, the Uber driver ended up dead in that man's apartment. He claimed self-defense, saying the guy broke in and was trying to attack him and his wife. Guy was being praised as a home defender and for protecting his family.
Turns out he sent a note to the driver to come to his house so they can work things out. When the driver got there, the guy invited him in and shot him.
The whole thing was staged, and everyone believed it and praised him for k**ling another person, basically stroking his ego. Then it came out as premeditated and everyone was shocked.
No. The husband murderedd his wife, then invited the Uber-driver over, killed him and then claimed the enraged driver had killed the wife. It all was a plot to get rid of his wife.
Haven't these people heard of divorce? Jesus Christ! If you don't love your partner anymore, if you've met somebody else, if you are fed up... FFS, get a lawyer and divorce.
Load More Replies...It was an airport shuttle driver. He scared the wife while driving and told husband. Perfect way to do away with wife. Husband k-lls wife with hammer and invites guy over. Shoots him as he walks in. Police could tell by body positions story didn't add up.
Yes! I just saw this on an episode of Forensic Files. I remember it happened before Uber was even a thing, it was a shuttle driver.
Load More Replies...Babis Anagnostopoulos. 33 year old Babis m****red his 19 year old wife, Caroline Crouch, and tried to claim it was burglars who had done it. The truth came out after the evidence contradicted his story and he was forced to confess.
No. If it's the one I'm thinking of, he confessed after the police literally asked him how he was accessing all these phone applications while he was supposedly tied up. There was plenty of other evidence they put in front of him, but the use of phone apps was the one that sticks. IIRC, he ended his wife in front of their 11 month old daughter and left daughter in the same room until the police arrived and discovered the body. There's also a possible grooming issue given he was much older than her and they met when she was 15 and married 3 days after her 18th birthday. For context, he was around 32 when she passed. She was 19, one month from turning 20.
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That Kuwaiti girl who told about how Iraqi soliders entered the hospital and threw babies out in the street .
“The Nayirah testimony was false testimony given before the United States Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990, by a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl who was publicly identified only as Nayirah at the time. In her testimony, which took place two months after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, she claimed to have witnessed Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubators at a Kuwaiti hospital before looting the incubators and leaving the babies to die on the floor. Nayirah's statements were widely publicized and cited numerous times in the United States Senate and by American president George H. W. Bush to contribute to the rationale for pursuing military action against Iraq.“
Eventually it was found that she was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador and her speech was made up as a part of a PR campaign (coordinated with an American PR company) to encourage American military involvement against the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony
Load More Replies...And then years later, there was "evidence" of "weapons of mass destruction", which justified the US invasion of Iraq.
And that's how I (and many other people) ended up in the Persian Gulf War AKA Desert Shield/Desert Storm.
As we decode personal tales of misjudgment and learn from them, it's reminiscent of how cultural icons are reassessed over time. Just like the playful comparison made between the old and new versions of a famous pop star, scrutinizing our own past mistakes often leads to unexpected insights.
For those curious about the evolution of public personas and how they are mirrored in retrospective comparisons, delve into the creative takes on past pop culture by exploring iconic transformations in pop culture.
Brittany Norwood - A former soccer star that worked at a Lululemon athletic clothing store in an upscale wealthy neighborhood. She had worked the nightshift with her manager and both were the victim of a brutal robbery/m***er. A co-worker arrived at the Lululemon store the next morning, discovered the scene and contacted the police. The manager, Jayna Murray, was brutally m***ered and stabbed over 60+ times. Norwood suffered minimal injuries, her pants ripped and she was tied up. Norwood claimed an African-American man first k***ed Murray, then approached Norwood, ripped her pants apart and r**ed her. The police initially believed Norwood's story and sent her home.
During the investigation, the police came across text messages of manager Jayna Murrary discovering Norwood had been stealing merchandise and she was going to confront her about the theft, then fire her. The police soon made Norwood a suspect, especially after discovering Murrary's car, with Norwood's blood inside, was parked 3 blocks away from the store. Norwood claimed the robber told her to move the car, then walk back to the store, or they will k**l her. The police believed this was absurd she would be allowed to leave , then return after being allowed to leave. She was arrested, charged with m***er, convicted and sentenced to life without parole. It was later revealed at her trial the entire m***er was overheard by several people who did not intervene. An Apple store employee overheard women fighting and assumed it was, "just drama.
Correction: An Apple store...
She put on men’s size shoes from the store to commit the crime, so it would look like the perp was a man. Then she washed them and put them back on the shelf.
In 2018, Susan Mize was a promising up-and-coming aspiring 17 year old model in the Houston, Texas area. Upon taking a ride with a male friend, Preston Barry, two teen dudes jumped in the car, threatened Barry with a gun, took his money, forced him to go to an ATM to withdraw money before he eventually escaped. Turns out Susan was the mastermind behind the whole thing. Lost all her modeling opportunities and was sentenced to 7 years in jail
In 2004, Marie-Léonie Leblanc a 23 year old French woman, walked into a police station and told the officers that she had been physically and verbally assaulted on a Parisian RER commuter train by six youths of Arab origin. She claimed that none of her fellow passengers moved a muscle as the youths slashed her clothes, cut off locks of her hair, knocked over her 13-month-old baby's pushchair and scrawled swastikas on her stomach with a marker pen. The story made international headlines, with the leaders of both France and Israel commenting on and condemning the attack... Which never happened. Leblanc made it all up so that her family and significant other would pay attention to her and was sentenced to a four-month suspended prison sentence, two years probation and ordered to seek therapy.
Leblanc is not even Jewish, as a Jew this baffles and pisses me off to no end
Well, the French pos did get the attention she craved... There's no therapy to cure racism, though.
I'd suggest that we've learnt from the many haters, that deeply entrenched subjective views are not easily questioned - or changed.
Load More Replies... My ex girlfriend who has BPD. She attacked me in my own house. My neighbor called the cops and when they arrived she wanted to act like I was the one who attacked her. I was taken to jail, my guns were seized, etc. While I was in jail for like 12 hours, I received a protective order where she filled out MY address as HER address. So, for like 4 days, I couldn't even go to my own home. We got that straightened out at the next hearing for an extended order though. When court finally came around about a year later, I had video footage (security cameras ftw) of her attacking me. The case was immediately dropped, I got my guns back, and got the charge (Second Degree Assault) expunged from my record. Last I heard, she moved to Florida which is awesome because it's far away from me.
She lied to me countless times. She cheated on me at least once. She stole from me at least once. She attempted s***ide after I had fallen asleep, with her idea being that I would wake up the next day with her dead body lying next to me in bed. But the worst thing was her having me thrown in jail after brutally attacking me. If I would not have had that camera installed, I would have lost my guns permanently, I would have lost my security clearance. I would have lost my job, etc.
She came very close to ruining my entire life in about 4 months time. She was pure evil.
I might be reading too much into it, but OP seems to consider getting his guns taken the worst part of this experience, besides going to jail. The situation sounds horrifying, I agree. It just kinda amuse me that he kept mentioning his guns for some reasons.
I went under the assumption that he needed his guns for his job, as he states it requires security clearance that he almost lost as well
Load More Replies...It is odd how he lists that right alongside ‘my life would’ve been ruined’.
Load More Replies...I hate it when BPD is represented as the sufferers being monsters, hysterical, with no moral code. My sister has textbook BPD and she is no monster, she's a loving mother of many birds and has a history of giving disabled birds the best lives possible. I'm her little sister and she goes mama bear if someoneo threatens me.
I have a friend with BPD and she has never acted like a monster.
Load More Replies... Corey Harris.
Corey got arrested for driving with a suspended license. Corey insisted it was a mistake and that his license was not expired. Due to Covid, non-serious court situations like this were handled over zoom. So Corey called into his court hearing... while driving. His court hearing about a suspended license. So Corey was arrested and charged... again.. for committing the same crime... again.
Now Corey's thought process was that it was a mistake and his license wasn't actually suspended so this was okay. Which... makes sense, but it's still not a great look, and more importantly, still illegal.
So everyone had a good laugh at Corey for being so dumb. But then it came out that Corey was correct. His license **was not** suspended. So his initial arrest, and all the ridicule he faced. Turns out he was right the whole time. Everyone owed him an apology.
Except.
It came out that Corey's license was not suspended. Because he never had a driver's license in the first place. The 46 year old man had been driving for 30 years, completely without any sort of drivers license.
These lists are ripped directly from the top voted comments of reddit threads, BP doesn't give a s**t about double posts because they don't read these.
Load More Replies...So what kind of penalty did he get for driving for 30 years without a licence
John Bobbitt. He continued to abuse others after having his little w***y chopped off.
Was it 'little' ? Or is this comment just a chance to put someone down for an ( imagined?) body characteristic?
If it wasn’t before, it sure is now. Took too long to locate it, so the time to be able to reattach it passed.
Load More Replies...Couldn't have happened to a nicer wife beater/rapist. What a shame. Sarcasm for those who can't detect it.
Read an interview with one of the girls from said movie. They were... unimpressed with him
Load More Replies...The Menendez brothers.
Their PARENTS were monsters. The mother knew and did nothing to protect her sons.
Load More Replies... Amber Heard and Johnny Depp.
There were a variety of perspectives that painted both of them as the victim. If you paid attention to the case and didn’t have a stake in who was “right”, then what came out was that they’re both terrible, toxic people that treated both each other and people around them like c**p. Johnny Depp won the court case, but through the course of it, it became abundantly clear that he was incredibly abusive in his personal life and many people on his “side” painted it as reactive abuse but it’s incredibly difficult to look at the facts and try to say either of them wasn’t heavily contributing to their horrible relationship.
Lol, it did not become abundantly clear that he was abusive. Quite the opposite, in fact: not a single allegation by Heard was confirmed and it was she who came out looking like an abuser.
Yeah, I was a huge Johnny Depp fan and when this first came out, I was like--welp, that's the end of that. I was fully ready to support her. But then I found it odd that no one else in his life had similar stories. BUT people do change and not always for the best. So, I watched the entire court case, went into it ready to believe her, and preparing myself for the disappointment I was about to face regarding him. That's not what happened. Yeah, I was still disappointed because he still came across as an a*s. But he definitely did not come across as abusive. As you said, they could not confirm a single allegation against him. But she came out looking like a complete wackadoo monster who was 100% abusive. And we all learned that she's a terrible actress.
Load More Replies...Thet are both really rich garbage people doing what really rich garbage people do to each other. I do not and will never understand the fascination the public has with these 2 troglodites.🤷♀️
Much of her evidence wasn't allowed to be submitted. She proved it in a British court.
When the story first broke I was supporting Depp as something seemed off about Heards claims. I don't know what it was... probably her bad acting. I'm glad Depp was exonerated and then there was that thing with Momoa not long after...
I am really, really tired of trying to figure out words with all these silly asterisks. Just spell them out -- the world will not end!
Am I the only one that doesn't have a problem figuring out what the words mean? It's obvious from context, you can literally just read the sentence and the word becomes clear. Why are so many people having problems with this? The constant complaining about it is getting old. They're not going to stop doing it, no matter how much you bìtch, so if it bothers you that much, stop coming here! It's a free site, you get what you pay for. So many people thinking they're going to change things if they just whine loudly enough, really need to get a clue.
Load More Replies...Eleanor Williams. She lied about being ràped and trafficked by Asian men, as well as two innocent lads she'd met. The men she lied about were nearly driven to unalive themselves, the police wasted loads of time investigating her made up stories and people were actually rioting and demanding " justice for Ellie". Racist attacks doubled in the town. Eventually, the police charged Eleanor with perverting the cause of justice and she was sent to prison. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Williams_(criminal)
Disgusting. She ruined those mens lives all because she wanted attention. One of them had his shop windows smashed, and another spent a few months in prison on remand. She even posted pictures of herself online looking all battered but it turned out she'd done it to herself with a hammer.
Load More Replies...26 women have publicly accused him of rape, kissing, and groping without consent; looking under women's skirts; and walking in on naked teenage pageant contestants. Thirty-four felony convictions. Charges of fraud, election subversion, and obstruction. Started a riot to over turn the election. And tried to get his running mate hanged. The public after learning the truth. Sorry my bad.....at least half of America want to make him President again and give him access to 5044 nuclear weapons
Some are fraudsters and con artists but many are mentally ill. Doesn't excuse their behavior. They should be required to seek therapy like the French courts ordered that one woman.
Load More Replies...Diane Downs. Claimed a carjacker shot her and her kids. Quickly discovered she had made it all up and shot them herself. One of the kids died and another was paralyzed. Life in prison, still claims she's innocent. Did it because her lover didn't want kids.
where is casey anthony? "'my poor daughter, caley, is missing and was kidnapped by the babysitter!"
Surprised no one mentioned Crystal Mangum, whose false report of rape kicked off the Duke Lacross Case in 2006. She probably set the issue of women's credibility in such cases back by 20 yrs.
I am really, really tired of trying to figure out words with all these silly asterisks. Just spell them out -- the world will not end!
Am I the only one that doesn't have a problem figuring out what the words mean? It's obvious from context, you can literally just read the sentence and the word becomes clear. Why are so many people having problems with this? The constant complaining about it is getting old. They're not going to stop doing it, no matter how much you bìtch, so if it bothers you that much, stop coming here! It's a free site, you get what you pay for. So many people thinking they're going to change things if they just whine loudly enough, really need to get a clue.
Load More Replies...Eleanor Williams. She lied about being ràped and trafficked by Asian men, as well as two innocent lads she'd met. The men she lied about were nearly driven to unalive themselves, the police wasted loads of time investigating her made up stories and people were actually rioting and demanding " justice for Ellie". Racist attacks doubled in the town. Eventually, the police charged Eleanor with perverting the cause of justice and she was sent to prison. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Williams_(criminal)
Disgusting. She ruined those mens lives all because she wanted attention. One of them had his shop windows smashed, and another spent a few months in prison on remand. She even posted pictures of herself online looking all battered but it turned out she'd done it to herself with a hammer.
Load More Replies...26 women have publicly accused him of rape, kissing, and groping without consent; looking under women's skirts; and walking in on naked teenage pageant contestants. Thirty-four felony convictions. Charges of fraud, election subversion, and obstruction. Started a riot to over turn the election. And tried to get his running mate hanged. The public after learning the truth. Sorry my bad.....at least half of America want to make him President again and give him access to 5044 nuclear weapons
Some are fraudsters and con artists but many are mentally ill. Doesn't excuse their behavior. They should be required to seek therapy like the French courts ordered that one woman.
Load More Replies...Diane Downs. Claimed a carjacker shot her and her kids. Quickly discovered she had made it all up and shot them herself. One of the kids died and another was paralyzed. Life in prison, still claims she's innocent. Did it because her lover didn't want kids.
where is casey anthony? "'my poor daughter, caley, is missing and was kidnapped by the babysitter!"
Surprised no one mentioned Crystal Mangum, whose false report of rape kicked off the Duke Lacross Case in 2006. She probably set the issue of women's credibility in such cases back by 20 yrs.
