The people in our lives have a lot of wisdom to share with us—so long as we’re willing to listen. However, while some tips are incredibly helpful, others might no longer be all that useful for surviving and thriving in 2023 and beyond.
One Reddit user sparked an interesting but provocative discussion online. They asked members of the younger generations to share what pieces of work and life advice they’ve gotten from older people that they feel might be outdated. You’ll find their opinions as you scroll down.
Keep in mind that this doesn't automatically mean that everything suggested by members of older generations is 'wrong' or that younger people are always 'right'... or the other way around. The world's far more nuanced than that.
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*If you work hard, show up on time and give your heart and soul to a company, you'll get promoted and be financially successful.*
In 2023, if you work hard you will never get ahead and die in the harness.
In 2023, you can give your heart, soul, kidneys, lungs, both arms and both legs, liver and even your butt to the company, but you still not getting anywhere!
This still applies, just less broadly and unfortunately, just because you work hard and "try your best" doesn't mean that your best....is good enough. My buddy moved half way across the US to be closer to his kid after a divorce, left his $130k a year job...and started a new job at $34k a year in 2019. He's been promoted 3 times since, his pay has doubled to $78K a year (plus overtime, plus travel, plus full benefits) and they're paying the cost of college courses so he can get additional training as they plan to have him head up a department. If you're not getting recognition for your efforts? Sure, f**k them. But to pretend that it's pointless to make an effort, is just a self fulfilling prophecy.
My SO worked hard from the moment he joined the company at 18 and now, after being so invaluable they put him on their scarce skills list (which is very short), they are making him redundant after 35 years just because he works from home and he can't get to the nearest office.
If by "Get Ahead, and be financially successful", you mean get a lousy 50 cent raise after working hard for 4 years, and then holding their office together for a year with very few orders, then YAY ME!!
It's odd, isn't it? The older generation probably have worked donkey's years for one employer, but I don't think the majority was ever very successful in scaling the career ladder. In other words, the above assumption has absolutely no basis in reality. An employer is not your friend or a family member: he's someone you entered into a contract with, that's all.
Anyone following the boomers is stuck until they leave the workforce.
Load More Replies...The more you're willing to sacrifice, the more those "up there" will take advantage of you. Remember you're getting paid for your time and your work, you're not selling your soul!
Bored Panda reached out to Sam Dogen, the host of the Financial Samurai blog and the author of the bestseller, 'Buy This, Not That: How to Spend Your Way to Wealth and Freedom.' He was kind enough to shed some light on adapting to an ever-changing world and shared his thoughts on what employees can do to continue to stay relevant in the job industry.
"Each generation operates in its own world, but may erroneously extrapolate how things were with how things are today. If one thinks this way, this shows failure to adapt to an ever-changing world," the personal finance expert told us via email.
"Work overtime, holidays, nights, weekends, whatever you can. The boss will be so impressed by your commitment that you'll get a promotion and a raise!" Nope. He'll get the raise. I'll get f**k all. And then I'll be expected to stay over every time. Goodbye, family, friends. Goodbye, work-life balance. Hello burnout.
More like the boss will come to expect it then come for you when you start to burn out.
Excatly what happens. 👍 My husband took 12 days of vacation this summer because he was needed at work. (Standard summer vacations here is 4 weeks)
Load More Replies...I once worked 19 days straight, 2 whole weekends, whilst on salary, yeh I should have been in a full clown suit. My immediate boss, who was brother in law to the 2 owners complained to them that I deserved financial compensation for that especially as it was a result of me helping clean up others failures that caused the work. They gave me a voucher for a stock standard dinner for 2 at a steakhouse, think just a step up from fast food level. He was fuming at them but even he couldn't do anything more for me. He did keep at it for the next year though and I got a 5000 dollar raise and promotion 14 months later. I have no doubt they would have ignored me completely if he wasn't a part of the family and his wife, their sister liked me and I her so there was that.
Yup. Work hard, be rewarded with more work and less vacations or holidays.
Yep. When you get hired you should get a mandatory tub of Vaseline....we all know where this is going
I once put in extra shifts and hours all week during a busy time. A couple weeks before I had to call in sick and I think I was late one day. Thought I'd make up the time and all would be dandy. Nope the next week, after putting in all that extra time, I got a reliability warning. That was the last time I gave a damn about their hours drives and extra projects.
Never work hard because you want a raise. Work hard because it brings you some joy. Remember it doesn't matter if you have family or not everyone deserves to enjoy holidays.
7 days a week in mfg. MANY years. No home life until after hours, but did manage to support a 4 person household. Made the kids activities, really made the most of holiday weekends, vacations.
If you work hard, work overtime and weekends, dedicate your life to your job and go above and beyond, one day, your boss may be able to fly to space!
If hes / she’s picking on you, it means they like you
This is just as wrong and delusional as "If you ignore the bully, they'll leave you alone."
Yep, and both are a wonderful tool for teaching children that their boundaries don't matter.
Load More Replies...Looking back at all the bullying I endured in school, everyone must have been madly in love with me.
I was bullied by one kid because I had a big scar on my face after having a birthmark removed. I didn’t say anything to anyone about it. Then my sister who was 20 months older and in the year above me heard the girl picking on me, pinned her to the ground and started hitting her. The teachers took us inside, asked what had happened and the only one who got in trouble was the girl calling me scar face. Her parents and her older brother were in total agreement with the teachers and she was kind to me every day after that. We became very good friends. Back then teachers weren’t afraid to deal with bullies.
Load More Replies...Sticks and Stone may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. The biggest crock ever told.
For very young kids, this CAN be true because the kids are looking for attention, positive or negative doesn't matter. Plus, young kids might not know how to get positive attention from a crush. That being said, it still isn't acceptable behavior. I've explained this to my 5yo when she said a boy in her class made her not want to go anymore. We let the teacher know so she can handle it
Keep checking in with your daughter. Teachers may want to help but they have very little power now and this kid might not have parents who are as decent as you are. He could still be bullying your daughter but less obviously and she needs to know she can tell you and not have to rely on her teacher.
Load More Replies...Weirdly an ex of mine said her boss was picking on her, I said exactly the above. 6 months after we split up I bumped into a friend of hers, she'd married her boss.
In kindergarten my daughter, who was small for her age to begin with, was being picked on by a much bigger 2nd grade boy. I got the whole "He must have a crush on her" and "Boys will be boys" BULLSH*T excuses. She was having digestive issues as a result of the stress (at FIVE!). I called, I emailed, nothing was being done. Finally, I resorted to teaching her some self defense moves. The next time he pulled her hair, she kicked him so hard in the nuts he vomited. THAT got their attention. Meeting with the Principal & all parents. First time his had heard anything about it. Obviously, Jr. took after Dad, who tried getting in MY face. Sit your fat a*s down, doughboy. How about I call the police and have your son charged with sexual assault for pulling down my FIVE YEAR OLD daughter's pants on the playground? Shut him up real quick. The kid was transferred to another school the very next day. It took a year for my daughter's digestive issues to finally clear up.
They're not jealous of you, either. If someone says that to you it's out of pity, not truth.
"For example, I grew up in a world before the Internet for 18 years. Only until I got to college was I able to start surfing the web. If I was stuck in the past, I'd still be going to the library to do research instead of Googling for credible sources online!" he said.
"People need to change with the times, otherwise, they will get left behind. One thing I wonder is why we still need to spend four years or longer to get a college degree if we can now research and learn much quicker thanks to the internet? It makes no sense that the cost to attend college is also skyrocketing when most information can be found for free online," Dogen, the author of 'Buy This, Not That,' pondered.
"As a result, expect more and more people to reject the notion of going to college in the future."
“You can buy a house. It’s so easy”
I wish I could upvote this a million times. It will never be easy, and we will still be easy prey to predatory lenders. Even after Elizabeth Warren going after them. Repubs will continue to loosen restrictions.
Load More Replies...Yep. Buying a house is very easy...paying for it all isn't as easy.
C'mon .. It's not 2008 in the US anymore. Peeps can barely afford rent let along a mortgage payment/interest.
The original advice is actually a typo. It's supposed to be "You can DRAW a house. It's so easy." And it is. Just draw a square, then draw a triangle on top - BAM, a house of your very own. Told you it was so easy.
dress for the job you want, not the job you have. b***h, i work in a factory. cant be wearing a suit and tie with all this machinery trying to kill me. also, osha said i couldnt.
But the last time I showed up wearing a leather catsuit and a harness, I was fired. They said that was inappropriate for a financial institution. Maybe during banking hours it is. I understand that. The job I wanted was for after hours. I'm not an idiot.
That advice is meant for and said to people who work in an office. Geez.
Maybe the advice was about dressing properly for a job interview and give a good impression.
Yeah, but are you gonna wear your work boots and safety vest when applying for that office job you want?
It works in some situations! I didn't want a job, so I didn't wear any clothes, and hey presto! I didn't have a job.
Go right into the store and ask for the manager. Give a firm handshake, look them in the eye, and get the job.
And that's the part that bothers me. Im so old school is pitiful.
Load More Replies...Some (and increasingly few) jobs this Might work for. But if the place says 'apply online' and you don't, they'll likely file you under 'do not hire' as it shows you can't follow instructions.
Evaluate the so-called 'manager'. Make them defend their position. How did they get there?
*Walks into Chipotle. Asks to see the manager. Screams "PREPARE TO DEFEND YOURSELF*.
Load More Replies...My father tells me this all the time. "Go in. Meet face-to-face. Doesn't matter if they say to apply online as when they see your application, they'll recognise you," regardless of how many times I tell him that all applications just go to head office and they wouldn't know me from Sally Sizzleworth.
I've gotten a few jobs this way. I mean, not *good* jobs, but I've gotten them.
I actually did this! In 1997, I got a job at an engineering firm this way (administrative; I'm not an engineer). That era ended on 9/11/2001.
Meanwhile, the host of the Financial Samurai blog revealed that the best way to stay relevant is to keep networking with people in your industry, as well as to keep your skills sharp and updated.
"I also recommend everybody build a brand online by starting their own dynamic website where they can share their thoughts freely. Having social media profiles on LinkedIn, X, and Meta are not good enough. You want to own your brand by owning your website to show your creativity, knowledge, and skills."
Work a summer job waiting tables in the Hamptons and you'll have enough money to pay for a year of college, room and board, books, and still have extra spending money for the weekends.
If you’re pretty, you can land a rich husband waiting tables in the Hamptons and then you won’t need to save money
How about, learn a trade! Spend 6-12 months getting paid while you get certified at $22/hr and save every penny you can while you're still living with mom and dad, then watch that rate go up real fast because there's a deficit of over 7 million skilled workers in the US, re-assess whether or not you really need to go to college.
I don't know how much the Hamptons job would pay but there are programs for students from Europe to work in the U.S. for a summer, and the students say they earn a significant amount of money that way.
Except you also have to pay for boarding food, and the program there. You do earn money but if you also count the cost it’s not that much, those programs are more for the experience.
Load More Replies...It works. It really does. But you have to be good looking & willing to be some old rich guy or rich woman's toy on the side.
As an older person, this is hard.
Here are my best guesses for the worst old people advice:
1. Vote Republican. They are good for the economy and for national defense.
2. Keep some dimes in your pocket to leave for tips.
3. Don't bother to vote. They are all the same.
4. You don't need a union. Only losers need unions.
Regarding #1 - I can totally imagine some old German dude in the 1920's/1930's saying "Vote for that Adolf guy - he is good for the economy." In other words - think ahead before you vote!
I knew way too many people that voted trump because “he’s a good businessman and gets real people.” Eye roll. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Load More Replies...And during the Pandemic. and during Watergate. And during 9/11, the Iraq War and Afghanistan war. and original Gulf War. And Iran Contra Scandal. Oliver North. Scooter Libby.
Load More Replies...If being called a loser is necessary to live a better life, then so be it.
My grandfather used to always leave nothing by loose change for tips at restaurants. It embarrassed the family to do end.
I picked up an old books that covered the state of American politics. The book was published in 1901. It is really eye opening about American politics. Things really have no changed much. There is an entire chapter on Republican & Democratic semantics. The Republicans call it what it is. The Democrats do the same exact thing but give it a better sounding label. They then proclaim they are the morally superior ones. Even back then they foretold the demise of our govt. If the Republicans & Democrats become the only parties in America, we are doomed. So true.
I was raised to understand a person's choice of who to vote for was personal and private, thus the secret ballot system we currently have. I was also raised with the understanding that the Constitution gives us that right? Am I the crazy one here for believing everyone has the right to vote for whomever they think is better? And am I also the crazy one for not choosing my friends based on who they vote for?
I agree. We need to agree to disagree more so people can calm tf down
Load More Replies...1: only if moderate(there are few now) 2: dollars now 3: true(except for Bernie) 4: False, you enjoy your current PTO and pay due to Union strength
When I was 23, somebody told me I was "significantly behind the curve" because by 23 you're supposed to own a house and a car. I still can't wrap my brain around it. Putting aside how wildly out-of-touch that is, even if you had the cash... who looks back on their 23yo self and thinks "yep, that person is totally ready for the responsibility and harsh reality of homeownership?" Not me, that's for sure.
In high school I had an awesome sociology professor who warned us kids about what our 20s would look like. He called the 20s "the should decade" because everyone is always telling 20-somethings what they "should" be doing, thinking or feeling. Don't let anyone should on ya.
I was ahead of the curve before 20, now I dawdle far behind it. I like life in the slow lane.
Right i dont need the latest and greatest, or what others think i need or Shou have. I want what works for me, and im happier and life is simpler that way
Load More Replies...People will criticize for choices like this either way. From 22-25 I had a job at a company that underpaid us but "made up for it" by offering stock options. The day we went public when I was 25 I sold all of my shares for about $65k and bought my first condo. EVERYONE (including my mother) criticized me for not holding onto those stock options because they expected them to increase in value over time. I heard story after story about secretaries at IPOs that ended up millionaires. Well when I was 26 the execs got investigated for false reporting, the stock got delisted and the company went under. I was totally ready for home ownership, none of the other employees were ready for their stock options to be worthless.
Haha got em there! Good on you for getting a home 😊
Load More Replies...Took me till I was 50 to buy a home....it was built the same year I was born😅🤣😂
The only reason anyone would tell you you're "behind the curve" is to hurt your feelings and make you feel bad. Therefore not someone worth listening to imo
It’s vital to keep in mind that just because someone belongs to a certain generation doesn’t mean that they behave exactly like their peers. There’s a lot of variation. Assuming that all Baby Boomers are identically “outdated” in their beliefs would be just as hurtful as telling someone that all Millennials and members of Generation Z are “lazy” or lack ambition.
However, certain general trends and outlooks toward work and life do exist, even if there are plenty of exceptions and nuances.
The viral Reddit thread confirmed that different generations do have broadly different attitudes toward work, family, success, and life in general. And while that’s expected to a certain extent, in some cases, it seems like there’s very little overlap. Well, at least at first glance.
I went to the hospital and somehow managed to stay overnight without anybody asking for my insurance information. Eventually received a hospital bill in the mail for $1200; I was billed the "uninsured" rate.
I asked my parents for advice. "If I submit this to my insurance, it will likely go down, right? Worst case scenario I end up paying the entire $1200 out of pocket?" I said. They told me yes. So that's what I did...
Couple weeks later, I received another bill from the hospital. They had submitted the claim to my insurance. The insurance company negotiated them down to my $6000 out of pocket maximum and stuck me with the rest. I called the hospital and explained the situation, and asked if I could "unsubmit" the insurance claim and just pay the uninsured rate. The representative laughed at me and said something like "I'm afraid the cat's out of the bag now!"
The American healthcare system, ladies and gentlemen.
And the saddest thing is that any attempt to change this causes panic cries of "ThAt'S cOmMuNiSm!"
Most Americans have no idea what socialism and communism actually is . As soon as you mention either of the two, it's like a red flag to a bull: they charge.
Load More Replies...Yes. I once paid $300 for new glasses, frames and lenses, without submitting to insurance. The next time I told them to bill insurance, they billed insurance $900, and I still paid $300. And it's defended as CAPITALISM. It's all BS and FRAUD.
You can always get a copy of your prescription instead and get glasses online for wayyy cheaper. Its honestly a lifesaver for us poor folks
Load More Replies...Always, always ask for an itemized bill (in the US). That's how I figured out the hospital wanted to bill me $84 for a cup of broth and 2 packs of saltines.
So how much did you have to pay? $6000? Not being American I am a little confused.
I don't understand this? They pay a tiny amount and then the patient has to pay everything else?
Load More Replies...The American Medical Association came out with a marketing/PR campaign railing about the horrors of socialized healthcare during the Truman administration. The cost was over 100k. It was an outrageous amount of money for the time. Best money they ever spent to make sure we are sick and poor for generations.
I work in private healthcare in the UK and we let people unsubmit all the time if it'll work out cheaper for them to self fund than go through their insurance. Private healthcare is expensive enough as it is without f*****g everyone over. America is wild.
EVERY system in the US. The US economy is based on greed, pure and simple. Give me money and don't expect to get any back. It's MINE!
I just got a bill from the ortho I saw for the lump on my wrist (arthritis, tough sh*t for me). It was my portion of the cost of the wrist brace. $155.25 & I'm being billed the balance insurance didn't cover - $50. I could have bought basically the same f*cking wrist brace at Walgreens for $29.99
My older male neighbour keep telling me I can get a girlfriend if I'm persistent and don't take no for an answer and court her at her home and work everyday because that's how he got his now wife, like mate that's F*****g stalking it's not the 60s anymore
Who wants a wife that is with them because her life had been ruined and she realised she could never escape her captor? Compared to one that felt an independent attraction from the get-go?
Right? My ex husband would sit in the front yard bawling and screaming about how much he loved me after I kicked him out. Of COURSE you breaking into the house and leaving my jewelry box on top of the toaster so I'd know you'd been there means you LOVE me. Of COURSE you slashing all the tires on my car means you LOVE me. Of COURSE you threatening to kill my children if I don't take you back means you LOVE me. Oh, sure - I obviously didn't realize. Come right on in - to jail, you f*cking loser psychopathic stalker.
I'm an old fart now. I pay attention to how people interact with one another. The whole hunt for a romantic partner is turned upside down now. It's so bad one has to wonder what is physically & emotionally wrong with the younger generation. I still like the day when I saw three cute teenage girls trying to hook up with 3 guys their age in our local mall. The boys were cold fish. Even the gay couple sitting nearby showed more interest in the girls than the teenage boys.
I would rather have a g/f than be married. More fun less fighting
What do you mean by that? This comment seems weird but maybe I’m misunderstanding
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My grandma used to tell me never to get tattooes, or I won't find any work. Now I live in a society where even grannies have tattooes and nobody cares. Nobody. Cares. Just don't be an a*****e.
I love that piercings, tattoos, and coloured hair are becoming more and more prevalent. One thing that younger generations have done, made it possible for many more people to express themselves with their own bodies.
This. Be your own, best self as you see fit. Chances are you'll find your people as those with less adaptive minds are already being left in the dust. They'll evolve accordingly. Or not... to their detriment.
Load More Replies...I remember an older client telling me how she "Didn't understand why all the 'young folks' were getting tattoos" and that only "trashy" people got tattoos, but she could tell that I was a nice young girl from a good family because I didn't have all those markings on my body. Then I removed my lab coat to show her my full sleeves! Never heard anyone try to back peddle so fast 🤣
I have tattoos, and I was speaking with my boss's attorney (who is married to a federal judge) and he told me that some judges will *still* think less of you if you come to the stand with tattoos. He saw my forearm tattoo and we got to talking and I called him on it - "so do you think I am less capable at my job because of this tattoo?" It certainly forced him to think about it...
That's him, doesn't change a lot of others in professional jobs.
Load More Replies...Actually, people still care about face and prominent neck/ hand tattoos. There are many places that still will not hire you with them.
I second this. There are a lot of places, especially professional ones that do care.
Load More Replies...Having tattoos means you can endure the pain of needles jammed into your skin for several hours--or a regular shift in retail.
I think they make a person look hard. You can also tell a lot about a person by their tats. They practically beg for prejudgement.
I was always told it would look shrivelled up when I'm a senior, and that I would be limiting my job opportunities. I think my job opportunities are drastically more limited not being able to drive, than that one guy with "Respect" tatted on his neck and random scribbles on his face.
Sure, someone telling you that you’ll get a job if you head on over to a store, ask for the manager, look them in the eye, and give them a firm handshake isn’t all that helpful in the 21st century. However, the idea behind the advice—the importance of confidence, body language, and being proactive—is actually timeless. The specifics might change, but the context remains the same.
What really doesn’t help, however, is if someone tells you just how easy it is to buy property. The economy and job industry have changed enormously over the decades. Unless someone puts in the effort to keep up with the news, they might assume that everyone can afford a house on their day job salary.
CNN reports that US home prices hit a new all-time high in July 2023, as property inventory hit historical lows. Homes in Chicago, Cleveland, and New York saw the biggest price increases in July, as well as June. What compounds the problem, aside from high prices and fewer properties to choose from, are the sky-high mortgages. The average 30-year fixed-rate mortgage rose to over 7% in August of this year. This is the highest level in 20 years.
“Respect your elders” I respect everyone until you give me a reason I shouldn’t. You don’t need to earn my respect but that doesn’t mean you’re obligated to it just because you’ve been around the block. The most disrespectful and judgmental people I have ever met or dealt with are all “elders”
White middle ages men tend to get more respect right off the bat compared to anyone else.
Load More Replies...This 100%. For me, everyone gets baseline respect. You gain or lose respect based on your actions
This. You get my respect when we meet. It's yours to lose.
Load More Replies...my late father used to get angry about the saying "old and wise", he thought it was complete bs. Being old means you have had time to learn by experience, but many people don't learn from experience. Stupid is stupid, and stupid at 20 is often still stupid at 80.
Nope! Respect is earned. Your identifiers, young, old, white, black, gay, straight, trans whatever....are MEANINGLESS when it comes to judging WHO you are as a person, and the value or legitimacy of your opinions.
You should respect and be nice to everyone until they give you a good reason not to. That way there would not be so much grief and anger in the world about mostly nothing at all.
People get respect when they either deserve it or have earned it. Respect isn't free.
You are creating the reality you will live in. Wisdom is earned through living and experience. Your (future) children will watch how you treat the elderly, and when you become elderly, it will be too late to unring that bell.
“Don’t say you can’t afford a kid. You always can make do. Our first kid slept in our dresser drawer”
I got this advice from a taxi driver once. It was a double whammy because it is terrible advice and I was suffering through infertility at that time
I'm sorry to hear that. Must have hurt like heck. Hugs honey.
Load More Replies...Yeah if you did this now in the US the department of children and families would take your kids forever so this is some really outdated not great advice lol
And have a high chance of passing it on for generations to come.
Load More Replies...You can't, and if you're one of those special people that pretends you'll just "figure it out" don't expect everyone around you to make exceptions or sacrifices so as to make the consequences of your dumb choice easier.
My mam always used to say, 'There is no "Right time" to have a baby, so don't wait for something that will never come. Just don't do it at the wrong time'.
Even if there is a "right time", your situation could change gradually or in an instant after you have a kid. There's no predicting what will happen later on. I think some people have that anxiety of what if something makes it harder on them and they'll end up regretting their decisions or feel guilty for making a bad move. I believe some of these anxious people are the same ones shaming parents with kids for ending up in tough times with kids.
Load More Replies...I did it on very little money. If you breastfeed and have a baby shower/get secondhand everything (people are desperate to unload their old baby gear), it’s really not a lot of money.
I waited until I was financially stable and owned a house at 43 to have a child. Best decision I've ever made. I can afford to live in the 3rd best school district in the country, pay for any extra curricular activities and tutors. Never forget that the single best and most accurate indicator of your child's success is what zip code the grow up in.
My mother : "Women like it when men take charge and show they know stuff".
People like it when people show they know stuff instead of just acting dumb or be ignorant. (At least I do)
Yes, women especially like it when men take charge of the household an know how to take care of it
Load More Replies...In my experience (as a man) women seem to like it when you’re educated (for me the feeling is 100% mutual). Take control not so much, however being able to deal with stuff otoh (again mutual - I’m looking for a partner not a kid).
Okay, I'm reading the other comments and maybe I am imagining a different scenario. But the times a man has overridden me and showed off about his supposed knowledge have always been incredibly unpleasant. I like people to act like an equal and to work cooperatively.
Load More Replies...I love it when my man can take charge; his knowledge of stuff is a massive part of my love of and attraction to him. If this "advice" is instead referencing D-bags who brag just to show off then yeah, I agree that's cringe.
Yes; "take charge" understood in the way that (for example) you know where you're going and what you're doing on holidays. In other words: Plan ahead and be prepared. My wife likes that, at least.
Load More Replies...Well, they do... Or at least, I do. Or maybe, I'm not quite getting this.
I feel like people are taking this the wrong way. Pretty sure them mean a man that can make good decisions when needed and is resourceful
I don't think this is completely wrong. Many women like men who are capable of getting shít done and solve problems heads on or organise the night out together. Problematic is the point where "being in charge" ignores boundaries and "knowing stuff" becomes mansplaining.
Yes, there's a fine line there. Most women, I have known, like when a man shows a degree of preparedness and control when, for example, you are on a date or a holiday together. Then she can relax more, knowing that everything will run smoothly.
Load More Replies...As we’ve written on Bored Panda recently, members of each generation tend to think that they see things far more clearly compared to members of older generations. For one, people tend to think similarly to their social circles. So if you’re surrounded with folks who think that Baby Boomers and Gen Y have outdated beliefs, you’re likely to think that, too.
What does undoubtedly change, however, is the (rapidly advancing) technology, as well as the culture of the times.
Work hard at your job and you’ll get a promotion/raise.
Give at least 2 weeks notice to maintain good relationships.
Don’t buy Starbucks or Avocados and you will be able to buy a home in no time.
I can agree with the first 2, but "don't buy Starbucks" is a sound advice. Not only is it overpriced (and overrated), but also the quality of their coffee is so horrible that you have to add a sh!tload of other stuff to make it somewhat palpable.
I said I buy almost anything else cheaper than SB and got down voted lol. Their stuff is insanely overpriced
Load More Replies...Why do people keep saying don’t buy avocados? Are they expensive?
Yes, they are very expensive in certain parts of the USA.
Load More Replies...I just recently learned I'm not qualified for a raise until my 2nd year. WTAF?
Let’s do these one by one: You won’t get a promotion or raise if you don’t work hard but working hard doesn’t guarantee you that promotion or raise. If you want a good reference, give two weeks notice. If you’ll never need the reference, then don’t worry about notice. Small purchases add up. Understand what you are paying for things like speciality coffees and the impact if that money was saved and the power of compounding.
Starbucks is trash at an insane markup. That markup, adds up over the year. Like every other little "convenience" Part of being a financially responsible adult, is thinking beyond your instant gratification, and treating anything that you can't have right now, next week or next year as some unattainable fantasy. Avocado's are TERRIBLE for the environment, and the majority of production comes from Mexico which has been seized by the cartels so as to have a "legitimate" revenue stream.
*If you are leaving under amicable circumstances. But if you are being treated poorly, by all means get out of there.
Load More Replies...Did someone somewhere ever say that about avocados and houses, except maybe joking? I've never heard it except for people quoting it as nonsense advice.
There were many headlines saying Starbucks and avocado toast is why Millennials cannot afford to buy houses. They were being serious, ya know, avoiding the real reasons. It's been rightly memed to death tho
Load More Replies...Don't burn your bridges behind you is perfectly sage advice. I've never actually seen anyone say don't buy Starbucks or avocado (toast), it seems to be an internet meme.
If you're loyal to that company they'll take care of you.
No, most companies will treat you like a rag. You will be used and abused for whatever messy work they have then you get tossed once you are too tattered to be of use anymore. They then get a new rag.
Load More Replies...Yes, of course they will. They need someone to do the work you are no longer able to do. However, this is an indication of a properly run company; they don't expect everyone else to do extra work, they employ someone else to do it.
Load More Replies...Companies know no loyalty. Their loyalty is with clients. Be a client if loyalty is what you're after. Even then, you're only as good as your money.
Family in a job description is a hard no from me. Unless its like a local owned small family type thing lol
Load More Replies...After working for several years at several companies. YEAH RIGHT. The longer you work the more you are paid and the more vacation you get. So, firing you is often a cost cutting measure.
Not everywhere. In my industry it can be pretty expensive firing someone as you can't, you'd have to make them redundant and pay a LOT
Load More Replies...Most of these loyalty to corps posts seem to be more an invention of what people imagine older gens to say, rather than things they heard said in real life. I'm 62 and was raised when Unions ruled the day and no one I ever knew ever held to such a 70+ year old mentality.
My sister was a nurse at the same place for nearly 40 years. When she died & called to let them know, their reaction was who is going to fill her shifts now. No condolences, card, or flowers. She used to do 16 hour shifts 6 days a week for most of her career.
I have had about 10 jobs and this was true for one of them. Until they got bought out and I was fired because I made too much.
1: go in to apply in person - they are just going to tell you to go online.
2: ask to meet the manage to make an impression - the manager doesn't care and wants you to f**k off so they can work
3: send a thank you note for the opportunity - unless they plan on hiring you, they have already forgotten who you are.
4: go above an beyond to get a raise - f**k that. Act your wage because otherwise they are going to take advantage of your hardwork and never reward you for it.
5: buy a house in cash - literally impossible nowadays
6: all debt is bad - you literally need debt to build up a credit score and you need a credit score to be able to get any kind of housing.
7: don't take days off if you don't have to - look perfect attendance is a lie they hammer into grade schools to make you feel guilty for taking your paid time off that is part of your total compensation. If you don't feel bad collecting your paycheck, do not feel bad taking the paid time off you are entitled to.
That "building your credit" stuff must be à very US thing. When we bought our house, we were commended by the banker, because we didn't have a single loan pending.
American credit is predatory and set up to make most people fail.
Load More Replies...4) attitude is a part of everything. you can't expect more if you don't do more. you won't just get a raise because you feel like you should get one, you get a raise when you can prove that you deserve it. and to show that you deserve it, you do more. now that you've shown you can do more, go and ask for the raise/promotion, they won't acknowledge it or commend you for it, you have to make your point for why you should get it...... this coming from someone who grew up in this current generation and had to do just that.
I learned in school there is good debt and bad debt. Good debt is when you borrow to attain a valuable asset, such as a house, car, loan for an education in a high demand field you know you have a drive and talent for. It could also be taking out a credit card and paying the balance every month. Bad debt is borrowing to pay for things that have no appreciating value and don't have the money to pay back on a consistent basis. However, it's all subjective as good debt doesn't include emergencies and necessary survival situations.
#3 - I have interviewed people only to have them not o my send a canned thank you note, but then also try to friend me on FB and LinkedIn. Felt stalkery.
not entirely true, you can still walk in and apply for jobs in person. my roommate got a job the first day he went out looking for one doing that a couple weeks ago.
Not all companies are the same ffs. Gen Z is being brainwashed into being absolute dogshit workers.
"Don't take days off if you don't have to"; and here (CH) you're forced by law to take vacation.
#7 is inverted. As a Gen X I can tell you: the only thing that used to matter was the quality of your work. Nobody cared how or when you worked if you produced good work! Now it's all about "soft skills" - you are evaluated on how much of a "team player" you are, and you can't take time off because you are not "supporting the team".
In Europe you can use credit card to pay for everything, then close the balance from main account without overdrafting and credit score will go up (it's like barrow from your own pocket to raise score) secret is to balance income and spending and don't go in negative. Plus have a separate saving account might help a bit ... or a private retirement fund ... investment fund .. whatever you think is safer and better... luxury is for punks ...
People usually reply something about tattoos making you unemployable, but I was once told you couldn't even have a beard or mustache at a job interview.
Some professions, it makes sense. Like if you HAVE to wear a respirator mask with a complete seal
Right, but even if the job has those requirements they shouldn't reject you simply for having them at the interview. If you refuse to shave then they should reject you.
Load More Replies...Some men look fantastic with facial hair... some don't. If you're only able to grow 27 hairs, and you're calling that a moustache, you might need a second opinion. Also, some guys look creepy when they try to sport the porn-stash. Always get a second opinion when you're developing your facial hair profile.
That depends very much what country you live in. I did Movember a couple of years. First time I was in the UK and it was plainly obvious I was growing a mo for Movember. Second time, I was working in Belgium for most of it. No-one batted an eyelid. So many people wear a moustache all the time, I just blended in. LOL
I don't understand why employers believe they have the right to dictate how Billy-Bob, who fills the shelves, looks like. Uniform makes sense, but everything else is seriously not their business
It really depends on the person. Some people look good others look messy and so on
Load More Replies...re: tattoos- It was true when people actually said it, 40-50 years ago. I haven't heard it for 30 years.
I feel like whoever gave some of this advise should have tailored it to the job. Creative career types have a lot more leeway than customer facing medical equipment sales or service or worse, stuffy finance companies.
“No one will take you seriously with a beard.” I was told that 10 years ago when I was forty and subsequently asked regularly when I was going to shave it. “No one trusts a man with a beard.” Tell that to Abe Lincoln. Still have the beard, but after a decade, now that it’s mostly silver, the same folks say I look distinguished. No pleasing some people.
I work in an office, my bosses have tattoos and we always talk about the next ones we are gonna get lol
If you break the law and try to take over the U.S. government, you will never be able to be president.
Apparently you can have 91 federal and state felony charges brought against you and still become president.
Damn shame isn't it? Put his a$$ in a cave and seal it shut.
Load More Replies...Meanwhile Biden has shady, illegal dealings with Ukraine involving his crackhead son that we’re paying for with our tax dollars
There are literally hours and hours of video, doofus.
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Save your money, it will be useful in the future. Lol! What money? What future?
There’s a difference between being a doomer and a realist. Get a savings account and plan ahead. There’s no penalty for at least trying.
When I lost my job at the start of covid 2020, it took me a while to adjust to my new reality, partly because I still received a paycheck for nearly 11 months due to my taking sick leave, annual leave and long service over that time with the companies blessing until it ran out. I ended up on a carer pension. Counting my pennies suddenly had me averaging a yearly piggy bank of over 1200 dollars just in loose change i put away. Never did that when i had a full wage. Yeh I live frugal, but still live and learned some things late in life about taking having money for granted.
Load More Replies...For the less perceptive individuals, this advice doesn't target people who are so poor they have to choose between eating and saving money
This is smart advice if you are cutting back on luxuries. Not completely omitting, just cutting back. Like instead of getting SB, I buy cheaper coffee just about anywhere else
My money is very useful to me now. Essential actually. Oh, Ohohoh. I get it. You mean useful in the future of one minute from now.
Money? What will the most useful 'currency' be if the power grid disappears tomorrow and likely won't be back for months, or years?
If at all possible the best advice is still the same: Pay yourself first. Take some amount, whatever that might be, and put it away where you won't blow it before you pay your creditors.
Save money but realize it will only become less valuable over time due to inflation. That savings can save your backside one day.
Well you wont have one with that attitude. Then I guess you will whine about that too.
A savings account is a great way to give a bank your money to play with practically for free.
I’ll play. My MIL just hit me with “both political parties are the same”, this afternoon on a 2.5 car trip. Needless to say I had a lecture prepared…
Both parties may have flaws, but at least one of them hasn't devolved into a death cult.
...or worships the former head of the E German KGB, call vets losers and suckers, etc..
Load More Replies...Well, she wasn't wrong. Every election, you have to decide which one is the least terrible thing for the country.
We elect politicians to solve the problems that we wouldn't have if there weren't politicians
Load More Replies...Lecture prepared. Fun car trip. From my experience, saying 'they're both the same' is a way to try and open and shut the subject quickly.
My stance is that they all suck, but at least one tries to care for the poor while the other only cares about the rich. I tend to lecture those I know who are both poor and Republican because Republicans don't tend to care about the poor. Like, at all.
The poor are poorer than ever and basically are relying on the government to survive instead of the government helping them learn to do things better for them selves which could get them out of their situation but ok
Load More Replies...Both parties are trash, and that fact is a symptom. The disease, is the voting public. Yes, democrats are competitively much, much better. But it's like being presented with the choice to dive into a pool filled with broken glass, or be set on fire. The end result is going to be the same, it's just going to be a different journey getting there.
One party just labels their hate, crimes, fraud, racism, manipulation, etc with a nicer sounding name is all. Then they proclaim they are somehow better human beings b/d of it. CNN did a piece a while back on hate in America. One political group wears their hate & prejudice out on their sleeve where the side is equally bad while they fervently deny everything while pointing their fingers at others.
Hate to break it to you. But both parties hate you. They want you to fail and they don't care about you. You can lie to yourself and say "My party is for the people!" and think they are the good guys. They aren't. They don't care about anyone except themselves and their bank accounts. Stop fighting each other. Fight them.
Both parties are the same. They are both full of S***, corrupt, and liars.
Disagree with your first sentence, but definitely agree with the second. The corruption is what makes them similar, but they are very, very different.
Load More Replies...My dad: If you want to work somewhere, you have to show up there in person asking for a job!!! 1. I have no company I “aspire” to work for 2. I have a feeling the receptionist would just go, “uhhh I don’t give the jobs around here, please check our online job postings and leave weirdo”
As a receptionist, yup. I always take a resume anyway, I always walk it to HR, and I always watch them s**t can it. "Did you tell them to go online?" Yes. "Okay. *trash*" They don't even read the name to see who tried. We legally can't look at any paper resumes anymore. Since we hold Federal contracts, all hiring has to be done the same way, and that way is online.
Most of my shopping is done at Costco. They actually treat their workers decently.
Load More Replies...What if the job you want is in a far away state or different country? That will work. :(
I love how Dave Ramsey will say get 32 more jobs delivering pizzas to pay off debt. Well Dave, I would love to work and pay off my student loans. However, my job takes up 60 hours of my life. I’m salary and make no OT. Then you factor in that I have kids and have to take care of them. school events, sports, and just regular daily being a family s**t. Oh, and while I don’t go to church. That’s part of his bs advice too. Now, please explain to me how I’m supposed to do this?
Some of his advice is good, but a lot of it is clearly 'out of touch Boomer' c**p
Load More Replies...Dave is a fake Christian d**k. But many young people share his dumb belief that all credit is bad. It is not if you use it responsibly.
Dave Ramsey is a fraud who treats his employees like trash. Don't listen to a word he says, and if your church uses his materials, look up some articles on who he really is and have a conversation with your clergy. Also, his advice is completely out-of-touch and harmful.
My parents SWEAR by Dave Ramsey, and don't get me wrong he does have some good advice, but it only works if you have the money to actually do his program. If you're living paycheck to paycheck, have given up all luxuries already, and still have little to no money to put away you flat out can't follow his guidelines. It's just not possible.
So you got a BS degree... You’ll NEED God if you expect to pay off that student loan in a dead end career path you paid $120,000 to learn.
You are clueless. He said to deliver pizza. You apparently have a chit career instead. That's on you! Dave is correct. You will make much more delivering pizza with tips. Do NOT bash Dave for your bad career decision, that's on you.
Anything involving bootstraps.
The expression began as mockery of the idiotic belief that we can simply do the impossible task of elevating ourselves.
If you don't raise yourself, no one else will. A good education and manners will do wonders for your reputation. Don't lie, cheat, steal, curse, or litter and you'll outclass the average person by a great length. Attending church is very commendable. Being good is a great habit to inculcate. What WOULD Jesus do? He wouldn't settle for OK or average.
Load More Replies...Speaking only for myself - if I hear 'bootstraps' outside of an artistic, exploration or equestrian sense again...lol...
Computing... "bootstrapping", more commonly known as "booting".
Load More Replies...I love sharing this little fact. Originally saying someone "pulled themselves up by their bootstraps" meant they were attempting an impossible or futile act. Not that they did it themselves.
It was originally said as a joke because its impossible by the laws of physics.
Pull your socks up, get your skates on, and pull yourself up by your bootstraps
Now there is so much resentment to the bootstrap mentality that they choose to do nothing in order to get ahead. The sit on their butts & demand others make their lives better. Go talk with some of the highly motivated young people in our society right now. They are not letting hopelessness & despair catch up to them. They are making the life for themselves despite the hardships they have go thru. That adversity is motivating many wonderful young minorities today.
Yeah don’t bother helping yourself. Just wallow in the gutter and wait to be saved.
At this point? Nearly all of it. They give advice for a world they purposely destroyed.
Just my opinion ==> Believe that if you want, but every generation wanted their children to be better off than they were. However, the world's population was 1.6 billion in 1900, 2.6 billion in 1953, and only 70 years later it's 8 billion. Purposely destroyed? No. Unwittingly by most, maybe.
To make it worse, Any attempt at birth control/ family planning is thwarted by the religious bigots specially in underdeveloped country. The head of the peodos in the Vatican still demonizes the use of birth control.
Load More Replies...My country used to draft 18-year-old men into military service so that they'd have to fight in any war the country waged. The boomer generation ended that. Nobody seems to remember the good changes they brought.
And let's not forget the Sexual Revolution. Your great sex life is due to Boomers breaking the boundaries. As if we would purposely ruin the earth.
Load More Replies...Oh eff off with this one. I look forward to seeing the reactions of milennials and GenZ when they get to middle age and realise that for all their posturing and pouting that they have had as little influence on how the world works as most boomers have, and that they're being blamed by the younger generation for *their* supposed greed and selfishness. Most people have very little choice in how the world is run.
Which generation creates the most rubbish and compulsively buys stuff that only lasts a year? Just asking....
My first (inherited) washing machine lasted just short of 40 years, my second one was scrap metal and plastic after 7 years. Maybe not planned obsolescence but definitely vastly reduced quality.
Load More Replies...It wasn't intentional, it was apathy....and that apathy persists to this day in the younger generations. Acknowledging that the problem exists isn't worth all that much when you continue to do the same destructive, short sighted things while trying to blame it all on "the others"
Stop saying that they purposely destroyed anything. If you must blame anyone, blame the politicians who changed the rules because they thought there was too much money in the middle class and they needed to keep most of it at the top, in the billionaires' pockets. THAT'S who you should blame.
Most people just go about their lives. Try to make a living and raise their kids. Keep your head down and get on with your own life. So many forget that communication even 30 years ago was tiny in comparison to what you have today. Most people had no idea what was going on outside their little world. A few large corporations must have known they were doing harm but the average person. NO WAY. Stop blaming everyone for what a few did.
I keep hoping younger generations won't make the same mistakes mine did, but I don't see a lot of change when it comes to consumption, waste, etc. You can't make things better if you aren't doing things differently. But, yeah, go ahead and whine about it while doing little to nothing to change it.
That we *need* to know cursive.
I use cursive more than I use block/print but that's only because my hand gets lazy and my letters drag anyway. I'm a grown person with a grown up job in an attorneys office. I have never once had to use or read cursive nor have I been asked if I can
I do think people should learn to sign their names. You can't go around printing it. Pretty soon people will just put an X. A signature can be as distinctive as a fingerprint.
I just changed my last name and had to relearn some cursive letters to sign stuff.
Load More Replies...The main reasons I support teaching cursive are the benefits past "pretty penmanship." It teaches fine motor skills, patience, and control.
Many historical documents are written in cursive. Not knowing how to read it could mean forgetting history.
It's easy to find them printed out on the internet. And a lot of the historical documents look nothing like the cursive we use now.
Load More Replies...Here we only learn cursive. Kids in kindergarten learn to print in capitals to write their name, but once they start learning to read, they'll also start learning to write in cursive. Cursive was invented because it was faster not to lift the hand from paper for every single letter.
Being able to read cursive *helps* you read other people's lazy handwriting, which is inevitable
This is true, at least for me XD I learned cursive in school (born 1982) and I'm left-handed (sometimes a lefty's handwriting can be incomprehensible due to hand positioning). I am called upon to read anything handwritten that my family members cannot decipher. I am terrifyingly good at it XD
Load More Replies...Our youngest son has severe dyslexia. Public school couldn't/wouldn't teach him to read. I taught him how to write in cursive so he could at least have a signature and turned out he has absolutely no dyslexic problems reading cursive. Over the past 4 years he has done so much better with reading that he can easily read anything in front of him! He now writes in cursive all of the time.
I've been told to stop using cursive more frequently now. But I can't help it. It's become part of my printing. I half print, half cursive, and it's sloppier than it has ever been.
Don’t get divorced
Sometimes getting a divorce is the only way to survive.
Load More Replies...Don't get divorced... at the first sign of trouble. All relationships will have bad moments. You need to put in an effort, not just throw things out. That being said, there does come a moment when no amount of effort or communication can solve the problem, at which point splitting is best.
Don't get married. Marriage is not for the faint of heart, it's hard work in a field of land mines.
Don't get married. Live common-law. All the rights of a marriage but no wedding, no marriage license, you get to keep your last names separate, and your credit separate.
Honestly, by that point it's too late, even if the relationship could have been saved. I've always felt that people get married too easily.
I mean, if you can avoid it, then please do, especially if you have kids. Look at the statistics regarding kids from broken homes and raised by single mothers. Don’t leave your husband because you’ve gotten bored or he argued back about something.
‘Hard work will pay off’
(Simply because there’s a ton of young people who work really hard every single day and they aren’t recognized for it)
Oh ffs, do you really expect to get promoted or elevated in any way by half-assing?
Hard work may not get rewarded but it’s unlikely you will be successful in any job without working hard.
Lol. You think older peoplele haven't been doing this and known this for decades?
Drug dealers will offer you free drugs in an attempt to get you addicted.
Maybe it's like those "try this" trays in a grocery store. Just eat one of everything and then go to another store and eat more there? So for cocaine go to a street corner to get a freebi, then to another corner to get some more from another dealer. You will never have to pay! 👍
Load More Replies...Ah yes, when we were kids, we were often warned not to touch abandoned food/drinks because they would surely contain drugs, to get us addicted, you know... Note that taking abandoned food still isn't a good idea overall, but due to hygiene, rather than because someone "put drugs in it."
Dealers don't need to push, or offer free drugs. People WANT THEIR DRUGS and do anything for them.
There is an important lesson here. If someone offers you drugs, you say Yes! Drugs are expensive.
XD The only time I was approached to by drugs, actually I have never been approached. I have merely been asked by a guy sitting on a bench I walked past. He was with his girlfriend. I rejected his request saying I don't do that stuff. He said that's cool and good. His girlfriend said "No it's not. We need money." I just laughed and kept walking.
My mom LOVES to say people need to walk into businesses with a paper resume, and ask to speak directly to the manager to introduce themselves. She thinks this will almost guarantee a job at any business. She told my boyfriend to go to BOEING and ask for the manager to introduce himself. When I point out that most places want applications online, or that a lot of businesses have people outside of the manager do the hiring, she gets mad and says that’s just to weed out the people who aren’t willing to put in effort….
How do you just walk into a company, even? If you were to do that at my job, they'd ask you: "What manager? We have several hundreds of manager-type employees, within different chair groups and departments. Do you want to speak to HR? You want a job? We have those online."
Where I work, the manager doesn't even interview candidates haha. We have a board of directors and recruitment team that handle it.
Load More Replies...When was the last time this woman held a job or had to interview? this is some 1980's trickery
This one drives me nuts. I work for a small IT firm and our office is closed to the public. Good luck even getting through the locked door.
You couldn't even get into boeing probably. I live in a city with tons of plants on the river, And Boeing is one. They have guard gates and security. I did have to deliver a package to one of those plants. I had to have my pic made at security and when I got to the office, it was secretaries that took the package. Had I asked to see a manager about a job, they would have probably told me they don't know anyone who works outside that office.
I had someone come into my office to drop off an application. I told them we do not accept paper applications, and that he needs to go to our website to apply, then submit a resume and a cover letter. He asked me to send it to HR anyway. It went straight in the trash.
If our parents didn't see us physically applying at jobs they thought we were just dillydallying on the computer saying we're job hunting but thinking we're not really. It's that lack of trust.
Oof. Last person who came to my office left in handcuffs. We don't see clients at our office and it's a commercial bank, that building is locked down tight.
I had a grandpa come in with his new HS-grad grandson. Gramps wanted a book with lists of company addresses so Grandson could start writing letters and mailing resumes to. I gently introduced them both to some of our library's databases. Kid found half a dozen jobs to apply for within an hour or so.
You're not getting into any boeing property I've ever seen without an appointment. They're kinda particular about that...
“Just get a job in the summer to pay for tuition.” Yep
Yeah, if you default into a no-skill minimum wage hellscape that's true. If you opt to learn a trade skill, you'll make about $11,000 over the summer as you're pursuing your certification.
Load More Replies...You can’t even hardly buy your textbooks for the little you can save working all summer.
Especially when one textbook is $700. That should be illegal.
Load More Replies...If I can make $25K in a summer there's no need for college! Duh! I'll be making $100k a year!
50 years ago I did this. It was public college, not some six-figure a year private school. but today this isn't much of an option unless you can finagle scholarships and grants. Even then it wouldn't work for anything but a state-funded college.
If you're a science major, one summer of work just might pay for one semester of textbooks. They were often $250 per book and some classes required 2-3 of them. I can't imagine they got any cheaper over time. And then the college bookstore would only buy them back for $3 even if they were in perfect condition.
Get a college degree so you can get a high paying job, do whatever it takes, take out a loan if you have to.
I know of welders who make more than doctors. *and who work reasonable hours, are balanced, happy and safe, though some do dangerous jobs. Be smart, diligent and safe and you'll be fine.
Just make sure that if you work in a job that uses your body (like welding or any other trade) that you save at least 20% of your income in a retirement fund because age and injuries will not let you work much past 45/50. Whereas that doctor will be able to work in some way right up until dementia or death. Please listen to this guy who works in the trades. If I didn't start my own business with employees years ago, I'd be working for minimum wage at a big box store like the overwhelming majority of my peers.
Load More Replies...I tell most seniors (18 years) who are unsure of direction, skilled trades START at $45k/yr, little debt.
College is not for everybody. Trade school can set you up for life.
Yes, and that advice backfired terribly. Now there is a real shortage of skilled tradespeople (I'm talking skilled here, not ordinary labourers.) They seem to have forgotten that the skilled trades built their houses, their mansions, their arenas, their schools, etc. Everyone was made to feel like they were "nothing" if they didn't have a college degree. Now you have a skilled tradesman, who can name his price because of the shortage, work an 8 hour day and go home to his house and family, with no college debt and making really good money. NOW who is the intelligent one?
I'm having a rough financial time due to health and my ex boss (nice woman but totally out of touch) suggested I get a credit card to pay for things while I recover. Like anyone is going to give a sick unemployed person a credit card lol
They may not be super high paying jobs, but at least they're not dead end, minimum wage jobs.
I've never had to show any employer any diploma. My word and capability carry the day. I am an honest, responsible, able citizen that doesn't need to BS to get things done. No butt-kissing. If an employer doesn't meet MY standards, they don't get to hire me. I choose where I work and if they are good enough to try me out they get honest hours with no time off, no excuses. Now I'm retired and wish I could keep going, but bodies wear out. Best wishes to everyone who sets a high mark for themselves and doesn't get bogged down in the psychological baloney that TV and some employers try to throw at you. Don't get married or go into any kind of debt. You'll be tilting at windmills. Be your own nation and obey God. Stand tall, you set the standard and answer only to God. The founding fathers will be proud of you. Godspeed.
This advice is from the 1950s. In the 1990s we we telling people to go for the trades because of the shortages predicted.
If you burn your finger cooking, stick it in the butter.
A big, solid car will keep you safe! You know, like a big old studebaker made of steel with no crumple zones to absorb the impact.
Don’t sit close to the TV. The radiation will ruin your eyes.
Circa 1936 -
Lionel Logue: I believe sucking smoke into your lungs will... will kill you.
King George VI: My physicians said it relaxes the... the... the throat.
(From “The King’s Speech” (2010)
Room temp or cool, not cold, water is better. The cold temp can further damage the tissue
Load More Replies...You shouldn’t sit close to the tv though. Though they’re not nearly as radioactive as they were back then, it’s still bad for your eyes.
It doesn't actually do anything to your eyes except the same eye strain you get from staring at the phone or computer. They weren't radioactive either lol
Load More Replies...Sticking a burned finger into butter will just make it taste like greasy bacon 🥓🤮
Don’t take a shower or bath during a storm, you can get electrocuted
I'm going to presume this depends a lot on the type of plumbing you use mixed with luck. All my plumbing is plastic so the chances of an issue are slim. If your plumbing is all metal, especially the drainage, the risk is a lot higher. Oh course, I've read reports of people being hit by lightning while inside away from everything just minding their own business. I've been indirectly hit but my bare foot was touching a grounded metal thing when lightning hit nearby. I sometimes wonder if that event ruined my body because it's been troublesome ever since.
Load More Replies...This is actually very true. Most homes have copper piping that conducts electricity.
At least in the UK, the standard is that all copper piping should be earthed close to any tap, radiator, etc, which somewhat mitigates this.
Load More Replies...Yeah, I wouldn't do this. If that water stream and you is the easiest route to the ground, you are SOL
ok but thats not just "old person" advice, that is legit true. do not take a shower during a thunderstorm.
This is true if you live in a place where the shower has those heaters in the faucet
Electricity always looks for the shortest route to "ground". Your plumbing is mostly metal and water is a good conductor. Is it likely? Probably not, but it can indeed happen.
Load More Replies...You need to always have six months' salary saved, just in case. As if the current pay and cost of living make this possible.
My company offers PTO. I always keep a baseline of 160 hours so that if I get canned I'll get a one month payout to find a new job. That's the best I got.
It’s something to strive for. I’ve had it in the past, fortunately, and it saved my butt at the time. I’ve not been able to build it back up, but if I ever can I will.
I've got about 0.00007% of a months salary saved at the moment. But the phone bill is due tomorrow, so....
I remember hearing the 2 month rule. Yet many companies can't function after 2 weeks
"After you put in an application for a job, keep calling. That shows initiative that you want the job." A friend kept doing that because his dad kept telling him too. Didn't get a job until another friend told him to stop
This did work for me once, with the crucial difference that the hiring manager *asked* me to keep checking in.
Anything having to do with your “permanent record”.
"I hope you know that this will go down on your permanent record" - Violent Femmes (Kiss Off)
What an amazing song to have stuck in my head today!!!!!! Thank you!
Load More Replies...I worked with a woman who wouldn't go to a Cancer Support group because "My husband doesn't want to go to a head shrinker. he makes a really good point. I don't want that on my permanent record."
God has a plan
I've never understood this. Why would there be someone in the sky planning your life?
Right? And if he is, then wouldn't it all just happen anyways whether I stayed in bed and slept or went out looking for a job?
Load More Replies...Why does God's plan include children being raped and murdered?
Nobody ever told you before? He works in mysterious ways.
Load More Replies...And it's for you to get falsely acused of a crime. You sit in jail because you can't afford bond. There you develop early signs of an entirely treatable cancer. The jails for profit health contractor ignores the signs and the cancer develops into an untreatable form. You now have 6 months to live. They will be agony.
Try not to change jobs too much, it looks bad on your résumé. Just stay at the same company for as long as possible. If you’re loyal to your company, they’ll be loyal to you.
For me this kinda worked. When I had two years at the same company in my CV, suddenly I was treated very differently. Maybe because I was older or because the economy was different, I don't know, but the change was crazy. Stay somewhere for some time and learn things, that is a good start. Then find a place that will pay you for what you learned and learn more.
What's with the questions about having gaps in one's resume? What, we're not allowed to take a prolonged break and just enjoy life for a year or two?
"Can you explain this gap in your resume?" "I signed an NDA, so no."
Load More Replies...I usually stay at a job for a long time (for a millenial, 3-5 years). Was told in an interview it showed reliability and that's what drew them to me. Still didn't get the job.
If you jump from job to job every 6 months or so, yes, it looks like you cannot hold a job. Also, employers do not like spending months training someone, just to have them leave soon afterwards.
"You'll never get a Job paying Videogames"
Yes. Streamers can be very profitable nowadays as well.
Load More Replies...Tell them they will never get a job doing the newspaper crossword puzzle.
My son (10) wants to be a video game programmer. He also has a high school in our area picked out that he wants to apply to in 8th grade that has classes that will help him get ready for that, and he would get college credit.
Don’t take “No,” for an answer
I'm thinking this has to do with jobb interviews or such?
Load More Replies...Skip the $5 coffee. Assuming you do that 5 days a week, every week in a year, that's $1300. Assuming you stop doing that and go without for the next 10 years, you'll have saved $13000, which still isn't even half the deposit on a s****y house. I'll take my cold brew instead, thanks
You forgot about inflation. In 10 years that 200k house you were saving the down payment for just shot up to 450k. Your wage will have gone up 18%, if your lucky unless you switched jobs 5 times. You will never catch up saving. And you will always be behind by staying at the same company.
So, start selling coffee it is! /s ☕️ or maby coffeens ⚰️ (know the spelling...)
Load More Replies...Why keep paying high rent prices when you could get a house?
Wear a suit to any job interview when a nice shirt and pants are just fine. Thank god my wife saved me from looking like a dork.
I'm 58, had some good jobs making 6 figures and never wore a suit or tie to work. Ties are ridiculous phallic nonsense.
As a Brit I really wish you'd said 'a nice vest and pants are just fine' (snigger)
Don’t get in a car with a stranger. Uber
Not quite the same thing. Uber is a service that you specifically ask for, as opposed to getting into a car with some stranger when you don't have to.
Or just a taxi, buss, airplane, train, blimp. Spaceformed penis, ow sorry, meant space rocket. Submarine, etc.
Load More Replies...when i was 18 i was walking home from the bus stop at around 2am. on my walk this guy and his, im assuming kid, asked if i wanted a ride. i thought for a second that they might kidnap me or murder me, but i was ok with either so i got in. turns out they live on the street behind mine and were going home. that's my story of how i got in to a strangers car and everything turned out ok.
"If you want a raise talk to your boss" Sir this is a corporation where raises are set for everyone on a scale based on the company profit and how nice they are not on your performance. Also when they think "ask them for a 10%+ raise", yeah i'll be surprise if they even give a raise at all
I'm a very very rare case where this actually worked for me, but I included an absurd amount of good reasons why I believed I deserved a raise and got a 20%+ increase.
This is good advice. At worst they’ll say no, at best, look, dang, you were actually included the next time raises were handed out. I missed out a bunch a few years ago because I was told this was bad advice. Golly people, at least try. It’s not a guarantee, but worth a free shot.
I asked my last boss (owner) for a raise to make it a living wage. They said they couldn't afford it. I know they can. Same excuse from the boss (different business owner) previous to them. "I can't afford that! My family has to live on chicken because we can't afford beef". Mmmhmm, I can't afford chicken. I went vegan because I couldn't afford meat. While you drive your oversized SUV that gets a new set of tires every year or so, I struggle to keep gas in my economy car and it took literally a year to afford to replace one tire. Mmmmhmmm, you go on your vacations while I can't afford to miss a single day of work. Vacation? I don't know what that means. It has been too long. Anyone forced to live a month in my life would either gain a huge amount of compassion or would unlive themselves. If it weren't for STRONG antidepressants, I literally wouldn't be here right now. A few years back everything became too much. Things are still too much but at least I'm not as worried. Still mad.
Depends, work for a small company and it may. Some places won't give you a raise unless you ask. It never hurts to ask for what you want.
Women don’t belong in the work place
Wages don't allow the luxury of a single-earner household any longer. Even when they did, that was still a stupid mentality that had no attachment to reality at large.
Go to church
Why? Isn't God meant to be everywhere! Or has that changed since 1985, last time I was forced to go to church.
No problem with "The Word" it's the interpretation by man that pi^^es me off
why? i'd rather waste an hour of my time somewhere with air conditioning and not a cult.
I've been. Apparently a waste of time unless you like talking to people after listening to someone tell you for a half hour about how you are probably going to hell, so give them money.
"15 dollars an hour is PLENTY!"
Ironically, the 15/hr protesters now need to protest for 25/hr due to inflation and cost of living increases. 15/hr is the new slave wage. It pisses me off when companies say that nobody wants to work but also offers pay that is 1/4 of a living wage. People want to work, they just don't want to be used and abused like slaves.
I live in central Europe and the equivalent of $15/hour is a VERY decent salary. In the US, though, everything is apparently so ridiculously expensive it doesn't even warrant a decent life.
“Learn how to do mental math, you won’t always have a calculator on you”
Honestly, even with a calculator on your phone right by your hand, if you can do it in your head it's quicker than typing it in
I'm just astonished that people work as cashiers and can't comprehend how to make basic change. If I but something for £1.50 and give you £2 how hard can it be to work out that giving me 20p change is wrong? I seem to always get downvoted to heck for this, but I wouldn't employ a cashier who wasn't able to do basic math.
Load More Replies...I’m grateful for my phone calculator, but my word. I’m more grateful I can actually use my mind.
Mental math is good practice for brain, so definitely do it. Also, simple things are better to calculate in mind. I'm not asking you to tell me what is the square root of 254, but let's say that it is 5:12 PM now and I tell you to call me back in 25 minutes. You shouldn't need a calculator to know that you should call back at 5:37 (or so). If you are at a shop and you are buying three cans of beans at 2 bucks per can and two cans of corn for 1.50, you should be able to say that it will cost 9 bucks without calculator.
They give you step by step directions to get somewhere Like they’ve never heard of google maps and refuse to acknowledge it. F**k off with your directions just give me the address
And then you realise that they live in a place with little to no phone signal and your google maps are useless. Now what? I prefer not to tell Big Brother Google exactly what my position is at all times.
If you have an Android phone, Google knows where you are. If you have an Apple phone, Apple knows where you are. Also, you can download directions to use off line.
Load More Replies...Even before google maps or the internet, I hated the step-by-step direction givers. I can't follow verbal directions, they don't lodge. Show me where it is on a map, or just give me the address so I can find it on a map, or if it really is that 'easy' then draw a simple map.
i see everyone saying "this is ageism" but in this persons defense they have short term memory and need to be told "turn left in 800 meters" or else they get lost.
Carry change for the payphones.
Would you like to accept a collect call from "Heymomitsmethemoviesovercomepickmeup"?
Modern day application- keep an extra phone charger on hand. What’s to complain about with that?
Our government changed the telecom laws in 2015. Now telecom companie(s) no longer are required to have public phoneboots anymore. And the last one was removed 3 years ago
We have free ones in quite a few places here in melbourne
Load More Replies...work hard to be successful
If your hand is bigger than your face, you're smart.
Turned out Possitive, but my Corona test was 101. Don't know what it means though (yes from YT)..
Load More Replies...John McClayn: "Just the fax mam" 🪐(not my downvote)
Load More Replies...We can’t bust heads like we used to—but we have our ways. One trick is to tell them stories that don’t go anywhere like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so I decided to go to Morganville which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So, I tied an onion to my belt which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel. And in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on ‘em. ‘Give me five bees for a quarter,’ you’d say. Now, where were we? Oh, yeah! The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt which was the style at the time. They didn’t have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones.
So you are just going to post an Abe Simpson quote without acknowledging it?
Ha ha, reminds me of the way my grandma tells stories about her youth. Before you know it, you will be hearing a detailed account about the jacket that the teacher's brother's surgeon's grocer's roommate's boyfriend wore on some totally unrelated event that happened 20 years before the story takes place.
Is your grandma Southern? We still tell stories that way.
Load More Replies...If you can't pay your bills, work harder. It worked for me back in 1970.
It’s funny that people would give financial advice from 1970 now. Imagine them in 1970 hearing some old codger go, “You know, back in 1917…”
You need to know how to balance your checkbook.
Well, it's done another way, now, mostly online, but keeping track of your expenses is not à bad idea...
Almost nothing requires a paper check to pay it these days. I only recently got my dad to the point where he does all his payments online instead of checks. Checks were convenient because you didn't need the cash on you, but they also took time to clear before the balance on your account caught up. So keeping track of your checks was actually kind of a big deal.
Load More Replies...“Send a thank you note” — more than once I’ve gotten a job and the hiring managers said it was because I was literally the only candidate to send them an email thanking them for their time. That’s just being polite, and people do appreciate politeness.
So that's good advice. We live in a world where using the post will make you stand out, such an easy move.
Put a hat on or you're gonna catch a cold.
Here's a little notebook to keep in your glove box. Write down the date, gallons, and odometer reading *every. single. time.* you put gas in your car and calculate your mpg. If the mpg changes, you'll know there's something wrong with your car before it becomes a major problem.
I already do this. Amazing the difference sometimes between warm weather, cold weather, driving habits...
The mpg difference between summer and winter is significant
Load More Replies...My car gets about 32mpg whether it's hot or cold or if I drive it like I stole it. After realizing this, I stopped keeping tabs on fuel economy.
People love to share posts about Buccees paying $20/hr starting out, but they don't hire anyone with visible tattoos.
Golf is a business skill. Gotta hit the driving range if you hope to be employable.
At my job, you don't play golf with the bosses, they have Discord server and play Diablo 4 together, but that is not going get you anywhere in the company, just gamer respect.
New salary review: well you did kill me alot in Dinlo 4 last year... 😬
Load More Replies...Don’t take any wooden nickels?
As an old guy, I can say that the interview barely matters to get the job, if at all. Employers are notoriously poor judges of character and will decide if they like you or not based on your resume/CV. They will usually spot something on the resume/CV that impresses them. Examples include a prestigious education, like an Ivy League school, or an employment at a prestigious company. That’ll be enough to get hired, but the employer will then go through the formality of the interview where you will start to realize early that they like you or not and that it’s all for show. Unless you make a mistake and draw attention to a red flag, you’re already hired. You are unlikely to be asked any questions pertaining to the job or to your own performance of that job, and will be expected to ask the employer questions instead, so be ready with those questions. This has been my experience in 90% of interviews. Also, the employer will lie, often by omission.
I fully disagree. I got my job ALSO based on my CV, but the deciding factor was the interview about my experience, knowledge and the presenation I had to give during the second interview. An interview is important, because they want to know the type of person they bring in.
So not true for good jobs. It often comes down to who they like given lots of people with equal qualifications.
This post doesn't sit right with me. It's as though a lot of posters pointing these things out don't realise they too will be old, they will give advice that in time will become out-of-date. I mean, my parents weren't Jedis, how were they to know that smart phones would be invented. Yes, people said not to get divorced, a big reason being society was set up against women, it wasn't until the early 70's that women could open a bank account with out a man, it wasn't until 1980 that sexual harassment was legally defined, until the early 80s pubs could refuse to serve women - getting divorced was very detrimental to a woman's life. You get the gist.
I think it screams "out of touch" too give advice that's only appropriate for people 40+ years ago. There are plenty of people capable of continuing to learn well into their sunset years, but many will stop putting in any effort after 30. It's really not much effort to just check current events, and put in a little time to listen to others, but so many people assume the world stopped turning after they stopped going to school.
Load More Replies...Seems like Bored Panda is either bashing me as an American or me as an old person EVERY DAY now. Pretty soon, I'll be tired of coming here at all. Not that anyone will notice, I suppose.
So we are old and our advice is outdated. Don't listen to us then. Go out and do your own thing. Figure it out, make a plan or if you can't then go crawl under a rock and hide or die but please do it quietly. The rest of us are trying to mske a life. For God's sake this helpless useless complaining and blameshifting is working on my tits
I'm curious: you said, "us." Do you give this advice to people? If not, then it's not about you. It's about the people who think the world stopped changing after 1940.
Load More Replies...The "don't say you can't afford to have a kid" one is f*****g ridiculous. DO NOT HAVE KIDS IF YOU CANT AFFORD THEM! It's not just about buying a crib. It's about the other 99% of things that baby needs that costs money everyday. You buy a crib once. You have to feed that child everyday. Keep the lights on. Keep the water & gas on. You have to pay for clothes. Doctor. Insurance. School. Daycare. Etc. & that's just in the first 6 years. Like wtf?
Another infantile post pitting people against one another based on imaginary "advice". Also, given the many responses, it's amazing how cynical and why-bother-trying many people seem to be.
I very much doubt this advice is wide-spread. If anything, someone posted it once, and then other young people just read that, and assumed that was advice from older people. But they themselves never got that advice.
Load More Replies...Most of it was "economy is bad and jobs are hard", yeah, that was always true.
This chaps my grits that people are complaining about many of these all ding dang day. Look beyond the exact wording, and try to see what wisdom is there between the lines. Sure, if someone these days said, “make sure you have a quarter to call home from a pay phone” that would be outdated. But what is the meaning behind the words? Maybe you could take that to mean, “Make sure you have an extra phone charger on hand”. I feel I should note– I’m in my mid 30s. I could easily jump on the complaining wagon, but guess what? I put up and shut up and work through sh*t without complaining about every ding dang thing. The more you complain the more miserable you’ll be. And vice versa.
Ask to speak to manager at any real job. Even if you do, chances are they already have an HR and the manager can not hire above the HR or else it breaks rules/laws. So what's the side advice on that? Screw someone in HR to get the job? Sure your quarter/charger analogy makes sense, but make it work there. Work harder to get a raise, psh, hopefully you kept that quarter, cause you're going to need it if you are waiting for that.
Load More Replies...There is a great variety of people and experiences in the so-called boomer wave. I'm at the early end. Born 1948. By the time my brother was born in 1960 the world had already changed enormously. I feel great sympathy for young people today. My young relatives. The children and grandchildren of my friends. But trust me MANY of us did NOT have an easy time. And many of us are now struggling with a lot of aging issues that our own parents and grandparents did not have. I think of my paternal grandmother Nana. Illiterate Italian immigrant. No one expected anything of her. She was admired just for having survived. But it's ok to laugh at me for wearing shapeless dresses and clunky shoes and etc. At least I'm computer literate ha ha.
Reading the bigotry and hatred on here has made me sad for us. Each side hates each other so much they think the other people are monsters. That is nothing but politicians pushing us apart and radicalizing everyone to each side. Our beliefs and politics according to the internet are so left or right sided they are almost parodies. People on one side or the other aren't bad. Our "leaders" are just hoping they can get you to think they are and to hate them. Don't let them push us apart.
This post doesn't sit right with me. It's as though a lot of posters pointing these things out don't realise they too will be old, they will give advice that in time will become out-of-date. I mean, my parents weren't Jedis, how were they to know that smart phones would be invented. Yes, people said not to get divorced, a big reason being society was set up against women, it wasn't until the early 70's that women could open a bank account with out a man, it wasn't until 1980 that sexual harassment was legally defined, until the early 80s pubs could refuse to serve women - getting divorced was very detrimental to a woman's life. You get the gist.
I think it screams "out of touch" too give advice that's only appropriate for people 40+ years ago. There are plenty of people capable of continuing to learn well into their sunset years, but many will stop putting in any effort after 30. It's really not much effort to just check current events, and put in a little time to listen to others, but so many people assume the world stopped turning after they stopped going to school.
Load More Replies...Seems like Bored Panda is either bashing me as an American or me as an old person EVERY DAY now. Pretty soon, I'll be tired of coming here at all. Not that anyone will notice, I suppose.
So we are old and our advice is outdated. Don't listen to us then. Go out and do your own thing. Figure it out, make a plan or if you can't then go crawl under a rock and hide or die but please do it quietly. The rest of us are trying to mske a life. For God's sake this helpless useless complaining and blameshifting is working on my tits
I'm curious: you said, "us." Do you give this advice to people? If not, then it's not about you. It's about the people who think the world stopped changing after 1940.
Load More Replies...The "don't say you can't afford to have a kid" one is f*****g ridiculous. DO NOT HAVE KIDS IF YOU CANT AFFORD THEM! It's not just about buying a crib. It's about the other 99% of things that baby needs that costs money everyday. You buy a crib once. You have to feed that child everyday. Keep the lights on. Keep the water & gas on. You have to pay for clothes. Doctor. Insurance. School. Daycare. Etc. & that's just in the first 6 years. Like wtf?
Another infantile post pitting people against one another based on imaginary "advice". Also, given the many responses, it's amazing how cynical and why-bother-trying many people seem to be.
I very much doubt this advice is wide-spread. If anything, someone posted it once, and then other young people just read that, and assumed that was advice from older people. But they themselves never got that advice.
Load More Replies...Most of it was "economy is bad and jobs are hard", yeah, that was always true.
This chaps my grits that people are complaining about many of these all ding dang day. Look beyond the exact wording, and try to see what wisdom is there between the lines. Sure, if someone these days said, “make sure you have a quarter to call home from a pay phone” that would be outdated. But what is the meaning behind the words? Maybe you could take that to mean, “Make sure you have an extra phone charger on hand”. I feel I should note– I’m in my mid 30s. I could easily jump on the complaining wagon, but guess what? I put up and shut up and work through sh*t without complaining about every ding dang thing. The more you complain the more miserable you’ll be. And vice versa.
Ask to speak to manager at any real job. Even if you do, chances are they already have an HR and the manager can not hire above the HR or else it breaks rules/laws. So what's the side advice on that? Screw someone in HR to get the job? Sure your quarter/charger analogy makes sense, but make it work there. Work harder to get a raise, psh, hopefully you kept that quarter, cause you're going to need it if you are waiting for that.
Load More Replies...There is a great variety of people and experiences in the so-called boomer wave. I'm at the early end. Born 1948. By the time my brother was born in 1960 the world had already changed enormously. I feel great sympathy for young people today. My young relatives. The children and grandchildren of my friends. But trust me MANY of us did NOT have an easy time. And many of us are now struggling with a lot of aging issues that our own parents and grandparents did not have. I think of my paternal grandmother Nana. Illiterate Italian immigrant. No one expected anything of her. She was admired just for having survived. But it's ok to laugh at me for wearing shapeless dresses and clunky shoes and etc. At least I'm computer literate ha ha.
Reading the bigotry and hatred on here has made me sad for us. Each side hates each other so much they think the other people are monsters. That is nothing but politicians pushing us apart and radicalizing everyone to each side. Our beliefs and politics according to the internet are so left or right sided they are almost parodies. People on one side or the other aren't bad. Our "leaders" are just hoping they can get you to think they are and to hate them. Don't let them push us apart.
