Karen Boss Tells Off Overworked And Underpaid Employee For Taking A 5-Minute Break, They Stop Doing Her Job For Her
InterviewBe careful what you wish for, you just might get it—a phrase dating back to hundreds of years BCE (Aesop’s Fables is believed to be the source of this gem) that is still as relevant today.
The redditor 00964567886543334 described a case of wishful thinking to the “Malicious Compliance” community when they spoke about their Karen-like retail store manager. She wanted the OP to “do their job”—a request that came back to bite her, as the employee shook off the additional duties covered until then. Things at work started falling apart soon after.
Bored Panda reached out to the author of the post, redditor 00964567886543334, and they answered a few of our questions.
Retail store employee stopped taking care of additional tasks after the manager asked them to “do their job”
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The person started encountering problems when the old management was replaced by less competent people
The employee wasn’t able to develop a good relationship with the new person in charge
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Things at work took a turn for the worse pretty quickly
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The story proves that not all managers are worth the position—some are simply improperly appointed for such duties. According to Gallup, over 80% of companies choose the wrong person for vacancies at the management level. They might be great employees and show exemplary achievements at their position, but being a manager requires more than just good stats.
The person in charge has to be prepared to deal with stressful situations and think on their feet. Despite some people being able to swim instead of sinking in unexpected situations, it is always better to be prepared and that’s what training is for. When it comes to managing a team, it helps to put out fires and ensure a smooth workflow. Sadly, more than one in four managers say they weren’t ready for the position when they got it and as much as 58% state they didn’t receive proper training.
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In addition to their know-how, they are also expected to boast good people and leadership skills. Whether it’s something they’re born with or developed throughout time, these soft skills are vital in order to lead the team to its full potential. Around 50% of employees agree that being a good leader is essential for any manager. Other important assets include good communication and problem-solving skills, empathy, and teamwork.
The OP discussed the qualities a suitable supervisor should have with Bored Panda: “Good management needs to be understanding, competent and genuinely appreciative of the work employees do. They need to value and respect employees as well as defend them and fight for their rights in the workplace. A good manager in my opinion needs to be on their team’s side, not actively working against them. The adversarial relationship between employers and workers needs to change desperately.”
Some executives find it difficult to view themselves as part of the team, though. In certain cases, they might be taken over by the feeling of superiority and mistreat their subordinates. Sadly, it’s not a rare occurrence, as nearly 80% of people have had a toxic boss at some point in their careers. “Work relationships require most importantly mutual respect and appreciation. Bosses in retail have a tendency to view employees as machines rather than people and never give thanks to those who run the business. Morale and respect keep a workforce motivated,” the OP added.
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Choosing such a person to be in charge can change the entire dynamics of the team or even the company. The Society for Human Resource Management revealed that 84% of workers in the US believe an inadequately trained manager causes additional stress in the workplace. Unsurprisingly, they can make people want to leave the place all together. Statistics show that half of people quit because of the boss, not the job itself (way to go, Karen).
“Essentially, retail and min wage workers are severely underappreciated and treated like trash by their employers, and people aren’t putting up with it anymore. I encourage ‘quiet quitting’ for everyone, not just abused workers. Normalize the idea of just doing your job and no more,” said the retail store employee.
The OP must have had nerves of steel, considering that they didn’t leave when the obnoxious woman became captain. Not only that, the employee took the manager’s wish as a command, and did exactly what was expected of them—their job. And oh, how the tables have turned.
The story received an abundance of reactions and opinions on the matter
Community members shared their stories of similar experiences
If you have an employee like this you should pay better and cherish that person. Why would you be an A-hole to someone who works extra, does it well and loves the job. Shees
Most lower managers are poorly trained and underpaid, and some try to make up for it by power tripping
Load More Replies...I think that most of these problems happen when companies don't promote from within. So they hire "A manager" from anywhere, somewhere, nowhere. That person doesn't know sh*t about the basic company operations. Sadly, they can't do the work and haven't a clue how to manage people in that particular field. If these companies would just take a look at the people who are already there, doing a great job, and hire from within for manger jobs. It gives employees something to work toward. They can say "hey, this place really cares about me and the work I do." People will want to work their butts off when they feel appreciated and feel they have a future with the company.
Even if you hire from within, there's no guarantee you'll promote the right person. I worked in a music shop with a very overconfident guy who had a million theories about running the place, based on no experience or logic. He gave the GM of the company an ultimatum: make him store manager, or he would leave. Somehow she took the wrong way at that fork in the road, and we all got to watch the Peter Principle play out in real time. After a few months, the GM took this guy out to lunch, and while she terminated him over a burger, the store's front door lock was changed.
Load More Replies...Imagine being a “manager” who thinks it’s alright to try to shame someone for going to the washroom…
Retail work is s****y and underpaid. Minimum wage at best. Get outta there and find a better job, or better yet, go to School and get a degree in an actual career, not just a mere "job."
You are so right. Retail is a s****y job and I say this from experience.
Load More Replies...I used to work retail. Started backroom, moved to apparel. Had a girl in backroom who went to use the restroom, got stopped just outside the door and yelled at for "abandoning work". So she just peed herself. Right there, in front of the manager. Who was disgusted. And she said "I held it as long as I could. What was that about I didn't need to go that bad?" I mention apparel because about a month later, I got fired for not working. In an hour I zoned 2 tables. Manager didn't see that I covered a lunch break, worked the registered, helped multiple customers, etc. 6 months later, I went in to shop. He begged me to come back at $0.50 more per hour. I laughed in his face. In that 6 months I started a company and had started turning a profit, but I was infinitely happier. I told him flat out, "for $20/hour and a $500 sign on bonus, I'll return". This was 10+ years ago.
My boss took unqualified people who were "manager want to be" and dumped all her work on them and she gets all the credit. They were do happy to be "management" they go out of their way to do EVERYTHING she asks them too.
They never appreciate people who are doing all the work behind the scenes
I recently got passed over an entry level manager position because I didn't have enough manager experience. I've been with the company for about 18 years, always go above and beyond, never complain, always get praise for my hard work and dedication. Haven't got a raise in 10 years except a basic living increase because I've been waiting for the next pay step. The manager they hired seems to have no idea of how to handle staff or workload priorities. More than half my day now is devoted to questions from her of what to do. The other half is split between calming annoyed employees that feel they are being micromanaged and doing her job that I "don't have the experience for". How can I get experience if I can't get the job? Also must be qualified enough if the higher ups are having me do what she screws up. Seems like I'm doing the job for my lower pay.
If you have an employee like this you should pay better and cherish that person. Why would you be an A-hole to someone who works extra, does it well and loves the job. Shees
Most lower managers are poorly trained and underpaid, and some try to make up for it by power tripping
Load More Replies...I think that most of these problems happen when companies don't promote from within. So they hire "A manager" from anywhere, somewhere, nowhere. That person doesn't know sh*t about the basic company operations. Sadly, they can't do the work and haven't a clue how to manage people in that particular field. If these companies would just take a look at the people who are already there, doing a great job, and hire from within for manger jobs. It gives employees something to work toward. They can say "hey, this place really cares about me and the work I do." People will want to work their butts off when they feel appreciated and feel they have a future with the company.
Even if you hire from within, there's no guarantee you'll promote the right person. I worked in a music shop with a very overconfident guy who had a million theories about running the place, based on no experience or logic. He gave the GM of the company an ultimatum: make him store manager, or he would leave. Somehow she took the wrong way at that fork in the road, and we all got to watch the Peter Principle play out in real time. After a few months, the GM took this guy out to lunch, and while she terminated him over a burger, the store's front door lock was changed.
Load More Replies...Imagine being a “manager” who thinks it’s alright to try to shame someone for going to the washroom…
Retail work is s****y and underpaid. Minimum wage at best. Get outta there and find a better job, or better yet, go to School and get a degree in an actual career, not just a mere "job."
You are so right. Retail is a s****y job and I say this from experience.
Load More Replies...I used to work retail. Started backroom, moved to apparel. Had a girl in backroom who went to use the restroom, got stopped just outside the door and yelled at for "abandoning work". So she just peed herself. Right there, in front of the manager. Who was disgusted. And she said "I held it as long as I could. What was that about I didn't need to go that bad?" I mention apparel because about a month later, I got fired for not working. In an hour I zoned 2 tables. Manager didn't see that I covered a lunch break, worked the registered, helped multiple customers, etc. 6 months later, I went in to shop. He begged me to come back at $0.50 more per hour. I laughed in his face. In that 6 months I started a company and had started turning a profit, but I was infinitely happier. I told him flat out, "for $20/hour and a $500 sign on bonus, I'll return". This was 10+ years ago.
My boss took unqualified people who were "manager want to be" and dumped all her work on them and she gets all the credit. They were do happy to be "management" they go out of their way to do EVERYTHING she asks them too.
They never appreciate people who are doing all the work behind the scenes
I recently got passed over an entry level manager position because I didn't have enough manager experience. I've been with the company for about 18 years, always go above and beyond, never complain, always get praise for my hard work and dedication. Haven't got a raise in 10 years except a basic living increase because I've been waiting for the next pay step. The manager they hired seems to have no idea of how to handle staff or workload priorities. More than half my day now is devoted to questions from her of what to do. The other half is split between calming annoyed employees that feel they are being micromanaged and doing her job that I "don't have the experience for". How can I get experience if I can't get the job? Also must be qualified enough if the higher ups are having me do what she screws up. Seems like I'm doing the job for my lower pay.


































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