Woman Asked If People Consider 23 Minutes A Walking Distance And Created Quite A Debate On Twitter
InterviewYou never know what random thought posted on Twitter will go viral and cause a passionate reaction from other people. Twitter users share their opinions on certain topics or want to hear other people’s opinions to find out if the majority agrees with them or they should reconsider their beliefs.
One such silly question was shared by Mal, who wanted to know if people feel that 23 minutes is a walking distance. The thread was filled with passionate responses and caused quite a divide. Also, the tweet got over 33k likes as it is an entertaining read, half serious, half trivial.
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Twitter user sparked a heated debate when she asked a simple question she didn’t put much importance on: “Do you guys consider 23 minutes a walking distance?”
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The person who tweeted the question is Malaika, a 20-year-old media student with a love for social media living in London. We wanted to know if there was a story behind the question as it was so specific, so Bored Panda reached out to her.
Turns out, it was more of a mindless tweet with no expectations to get such serious answers or stirring a debate, “I was thinking of signing up for a gym and the closest one is a 23 minute walk, so I just tweeted it without thinking anything of it.”
The tweet attracted a lot of attention and was liked by 33.5k people with many people joining the chat
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Even though Malaika posted the question just out of curiosity, not wanting to cause a whole debate, she was surprised to see how many people joined the conversation.
The student admitted, “I didn’t expect that many responses at all. I muted the tweet after like 100 quote tweets, so when I looked back to see like 11k quotes I was shocked. I didn’t expect anyone to be arguing or going back and forth on the topic either.”
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The comments were divided and people had heated opinions
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But apparently people got offended and took the matter more seriously, maybe than they should have. Malaika has no idea why the comments are filled with such passionate responses: “maybe walking is their passion or something. In my mind I was like, some of these people need to relax.”
A lot of people thought that Malaika is an American and that is why she thinks that walking for 23 minutes is too long, because of how dependent Americans are on their cars. She shared her sentiment about it: “Yeah, it was annoying for people to assume I’m American. Some of them were bare rude and made assumptions but that’s just the internet.”
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A lot of them assumed that Mal is American and that they all have a problem with walking even short distances
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Even though it was an assumption, Americans being too dependent on their cars is a real issue. According to Brookings, the average commute for an American is more than 10 miles, so a car is the most convenient means of transportation for such distances.
The number of cars in the US increased from 96.6 million to 221.4 million in the span of 13 years (2005-2018), which means there are 25 million cars more on the road and statistically a household has almost two cars.
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But others pointed out that it’s because of the infrastructure that isn’t adapted for walking
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Bloomberg points out a few reasons why Americans ended up in such a situation. It all started in the 1930s with mass motorization. While in Europe only the wealthy had a car and it was a status symbol, for Americans they were more affordable as they were cheaper because production took place in the US.
It is still more affordable to have a car in the US than in Europe because of their taxation of car ownership and lower gas prices.
Another reason is that because of mass motorization, the government made sure that the roads are well taken care of and created convenient infrastructure. That means their roads are more adapted to individual cars rather than public transportation, cycling or walking.
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Some of them also made a good point that walking in the heart of a European city isn’t the same as alongside a busy road
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The US and Europe also have a different approach to land-use planning. For example, if a German needs to go to a doctor’s office, they can easily find it by foot in their residential area, as opposed to the US where they don’t allow residential areas to have doctors’ offices, cafes, corner stores, or apartment buildings, so they have to drive everywhere.
You could find even more reasons why Americans resort to going by car instead of any other means, but it’s just that different parts of the world developed differently, as Twitter user Bojan Tunguz pointed out. And those factors made Americans think they have to use their car to go anywhere, while Europeans tend to walk most of the time. But for Americans it’s not a big deal to commute 100 kilometers, which is very unusual in Europe. It’s a matter of perspective.
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So the walking habits were formed not by the people themselves, but by which area they live in and if it allows a more convenient drive or a walk
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While there were people who defended themselves by saying that it’s possible to walk to places you need to go if they are so near, others agreed that 23 minutes is just not a walking distance. Although, in an update tweet, Malaika said she went on the walk and it wasn’t so bad.
Do you think that 23 minutes is a walking distance, taking into consideration what condition your roads and sidewalks are in? Also, why do you think people had such strong opinions while answering the question? Let us know your thoughts in the comments!
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Share on Facebook23 minutes is nothing. Of course it is walking distance. That gets me to the pub. Coming back from the pub, that's more than 23 minutes. And no longer walking distance.
Hence the term "having a pub withing staggering distance" ;-)
Load More Replies...It's not just about where you live and what shoes you're wearing. Do you have 23 minutes to walk each way when the drive would be about five minutes? Do you have a gaggle of small children to get from point A to point B? Are you lugging laundry to the laundromat and back, or groceries? What's the weather? Obviously I would love to take a leisurely stroll alone in the park for 23 minutes on a lovely day, but that isn't my life.
My friend told me he didn't believe in structural racism until he moved to a working class outer suburb of Boston that was mostly immigrants and there were no sidewalks. Also, yesterday I walked 40 minutes because I didn't want to pay $3 to take the subway, so that's also a factor that needs to be added to this discussion.
Oh yeah, no sidewalks is a big one. My county deliberately doesn't put sidewalks in some places bc they want the roads to be 'rural'
Load More Replies...Entirely area dependent. I currently live in a smaller mountain town, walks are nice and pleasant you could easily walk 30 or 45 minutes no problem. When I lived in Phoenix Arizona? Absolutely not, no way. If it's 110 degrees outside a 5 minute walk is wretched and miserable.
I dropped my car off for service the other day and walked home 5.4 miles (8.7km). Some of that was in a city environment with sidewalks and pedestrian crossings, some of it was on a high-speed rural road with steep ditches, narrow shoulders and no sidewalks or curbs. In some cases the ditch was so close to the edge of the road that I had no choice but to walk on the 'wrong' side (with traffic). Given the choice, I would have preferred to have driven that route.
How about a foldable bike/scooter in your car, for dropoff/pickup?
Load More Replies...23 miles is nothing for The Proclaimers. They would walk 500 miles and they would walk 500 more
Yeah... but they will fall down at your door at the end of it! Unfit sods! 😆😜
Load More Replies...Why do people care about how much walking is harder for them. Dude, respect how much of anything bothers a person, even if it doesn't bother you.
I walk 45 mins 2xs a day w my dog in the trails behind my house. I wouldn't want to walk that on my street I live on though There is absolutely no sidewalk or streetlights I live in a state park. The roads are not safe at all to walk on. You have to swerve to the shoulder if two cars are going past each other on some parts of the road. People roll into the ditches all the time. Can't tell you how many times my husband has helped people pull their cars out w his truck. My sil rolled her car twice.
It would depend on your physical health and ability. I'm used to walking long distances. 23 minutes is about the same time it takes for me to get to the nearest convenient store, which I walk to every now and then. I've walked even longer to get to the mall. The longest walk I recall going on was about 8 hours for a job I had. But that's not normal. Anything over an hour and your hands start swelling and legs start burning.
And weather. 23 minutes in nice summer day is an easy walking distance. At dark November evening when wind is blasting wet snow against your face, not a walking distance.
Load More Replies...In the defence of people living in the US, most places just aren't built for walking. I live in Germany now I've previously lived in the UK, Australia and the US. I've never thought anything of walking 2-3km regularly and sometimes 10km or more. The only exception was when I lived on the outskirts of Denver, CO. There, it was a drama to walk a fraction of that and Denver is apparently not even that bad compared to other places. The US is made for cars, apparently.
This. I would love to be able to walk everywhere I want to go (even as an American.) I have 2 dogs that get walked twice per day, at least, and I love to walk in general. If I walked to work, it would take 3.5 hours, assuming I survived the journey. Each way. Luckily my home is in a very walkable neighborhood. I do 23 minutes for the right cup of coffee Saturday morning!
Load More Replies...American here. I live in Georgia in a fairly big city (for our area). I love walking, but we don't have good/reliable public transport, sidewalks, or bike lanes. When I travel to somewhere like Madrid, London, Oxford, NYC, or Boston, I walk everywhere I possibly can. The subway systems are great and walking isn't a big deal. I live about a 10 minute drive from work, but walking or biking would mean crossing 4 busy roads and railroad tracks in the dark. It's just not safe or feasible, unfortunately.
Also, I take my dog on a 20-30 min walk daily, so no, 23 minutes won't kill me
Load More Replies...It depends on the temperature. If you walked 23 minutes in south or even central florida especially during summer and in the city... it is crazy hot.
Same in the northern states during January. You're not walking 23 minutes when it's a high of -30 and there 30mph winds.
Load More Replies...I don't think 23 minutes is long at all, but in my city 23 minutes can get you into a bad part of town pretty quickly, so that would be what would keep me from walking instead of driving. *edit* also alot of the US doesn't have very good sidewalks, or any sidewalks at all next to streets. And at least in my city, there are practically no bike lanes, and you can't ride bikes on the sidewalks.
Before covid destroyed my lungs I'd walk everywhere. Sometimes for hours. Longest was I think around 2 hours. Now I can't walk for five minutes without needing oxygen.
I am so sorry for you. I hope you'll feel better in a while. Wish you health.
Load More Replies...So basically a few people complain and suddenly it's all Americans? I'm so tired of being put under this "American umbrella". Where I live most people walk everywhere, it's very situational. Stop this "Americans are stupid. Americans are lazy. Americans are horrible people". I've friggin had it with being judged by ASSHOLES that don't know most of us.
As a wheelchair user, if it's even and flat I could do it. Bumpy, uphill, degrading concrete, uneven pavement, etc. there's no way. Even having someone push me over that difficult terrain is a no, that will jar me too much and I'll be in too much pain to even move another inch. Like put me in a diaper and in bed and be prepared to clean up after me I'm not moving for anything kind of pain
My congressional district just got a federal grant for infrastructure. There were town hall meetings on how to best use it. The vocal majority wanted sidewalks. There was a petition with thousands of signatures to use the money for sidewalks. Our Representative just announced that the money will go to police departments. Go figure. Democray is a lie. ☹️
We had the same! We wanted sidewalks and bike lanes! .... we got police "training" (read: guns for the cops).W TF, right? I feel you.
Load More Replies...Walking to school was 2 miles for me (4 miles there and back) took me 40 minutes to walk to school as a teen and i was fine. sad to think that 23 minutes is a full on hike for some people
Since I could walk to school cross-farms as a kid ---- and did ---- it was no big deal. On a road without sidewalks or any shoulder? It's suicide. Since I now use a cane, I don't even try to walk where it's not meant for pedestrians. I can't hop outta the way!
Load More Replies...It's not as easy as how long, it's also terrain and circumstance. Where I live we're all living on various volcanoes, everything is a hill, a combo of steep or shallow gradients, paths are horrendous and not kept up. In other areas it's more flat, there's paths or grass to walk on. Easy to walk 20 mins elsewhere, not so much here. As an example, I would regularly go for walks of 30-40 mins in the area, had to drop my car off for a service 20 mins away in the opposite direction to my normal walks which I got a lift home from, but thought 'NO worries, I'll walk to pick the car up!', got my mum in her wheelchair and off we went. 10 minutes in I had to call for a ride because we'd already had to cross the road 5 times, mum had just about been tipped out of her chair twice because broken paths means we had to go onto the road (a main highway). When we're overseas or in flatter areas we happily walk for hours. You also have to ask if you have enough time. When I have time to get to where I'm going then love to walk to the train station 15 mins away, when I don't then I jump in my car and just go where I'm going. Same trip (home to work) in the car saves me 1.5hrs EACH WAY, because our public transport is crap.
"Anywhere is walking distance if you have the time".-Steven Wright. I will easily walk an hour to the stores each way. I live in American suburbia and I can take the bus. The bus takes much longer though. I can get out and shop and get back before the bus returns to my neighborhood. Anything further than 3 miles better have window shopping along the route!
As the weird American who has never had a driver's license and bike/walk/bus everywhere, I really hate how dependent American's are on their vehicles. Many won't even walk a few blocks on a nice day, but some do make a point that some areas have been deliberately designed around car dependency. 23 minutes of walking is nothing, but if you have to do it surrounded by the noise of cars, it does kind of suck and I am quite sick of cars being all I ever F*&^% hear.
*laughs in any job that requires standing, walking, lifting, etc* wtf is wrong with you people? There are literally several mountain ranges, deserts, national forests, canyons, and wilderness areas everywhere. Americans *live* in those regions. They work in them. Of course Americans walk. Just not necessarily down the cliff, over the river, and through the woods, to get to work. What a ridiculous stereotype.
Unfortunately, I'm too old and out of shape now to do it anymore, but any one of these @ssholes taking yet another opportunity to bash Americans would have been begging for mercy if I'd taken them along on one of my all day outdoor photo shoots back in the day.
I walk around 5 miles each day with my dogs around the local heath, this takes about 70-80 minutes and is not what I would consider to be strenuous. I also do longer walks at weekends, typically 2-3 hours through forests and heaths. Anyone under 60 and able bodied who finds 23 minutes of walking difficult needs to seriously consider their lifestyle.
It doesn't just depend on where you are, it depends on where you are going. If I need to walk 23 minutes to work... I'm fine with that, since I'm there all day. Unless it is a hot day, since I don't want to get to work sweaty. If it is 23 minutes to a friend's house, and I'm going to hang out there for a while, then yeah. But if it is 23 minutes to walk to the corner store to spend 5 minutes grabbing a loaf of bread, and then 23 minutes back again... I'm less likely to do that, unless I have lots of time to kill that day.
depends very much where you live, I pretty much walk everywhere but when it is -20c and I am coming back from work (ie work clothing) hell no. I have done it but was chilled to the bone by the time I got home. Not a great way to end a long day
I take my dog on longer walks than that and I am overweight and out of shape.
Hey! Do not make fun of unitedstatesians. Carrying your 160 pounds for 23 minutes is nothing. Try carrying my 239 pounds!.. That is more than twice as much...or is it.... three times as much....wait, I also failed mathematics.
It all depends on the area you are walking in. Those American cityscapes, with some notable exceptions, are deathtraps for pedestrians.
I feel grateful that I live somewhere really small. Having to walk only 3-8 minutes to get to most places has spoiled me so much that 23 minutes sounds like a run to me. Sorry guys.
There's nothing within a 23-minute walk from my house except farmland and other houses. And there are no sidewalks within 5km of my house.
I don't know, I'm in New Zealand and I work in retail. On top of all the walking around at work I walk home from work every day, about an hour's walk, around 5km, mostly on sidewalks next to busy roads. Maybe it's just coz I'm used to it, but that's not that bad. I don't drive so I have to walk every where - it's good exercise, and gives me plenty of time to listen to audiobooks. Only drawback is that I can't buy ice-creams or frozen foods because of the walking distance and time.
A friend used a pedometer at her retail job and discovered that she walked 30km a day just in her job!
Load More Replies...Totally depends upon the location and walking conditions. Urban areas with well lit sidewalks, yes, very doable. Rural areas and some suburbs may not be so doable. It's all about personal safety in this day and age, not laziness.
An absolutely great YT on the shittyass "Stroads" that cover so much of the US and explain why 23 minute walk in Chicago or New York is super doable and the same walk in the Suburbs an hour away is a nightmare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM
23 minutes is definitely walking distance, but I might not do it depending on the weather.
23 minutes is a stroll around the corner. In comfortable shoes though, I can't walk more than 5 mins in heels
Yeah, this absolutely blew my mind when I was living in the U.S. I was really lucky to live in a pretty walkable city in California (though I still needed to carpool to get to work), but when I visited my friend in San Bernardino and asked if we could go for an evening walk, she side-eyed me sceptically. We tried and lasted 15 minutes. In that time, we were almost attacked by a dog and came close to being hit by several cars because there were NO sidewalks. I moved to Germany/UK since and haven't owned a car in four years. I've always loved walking and now I walk everywhere - even if it's over an hour away - just because I can. Good infrastructure matters.
I'm lost, at work for lunch I walk 20 minutes to the supermarket to grab lunch and then 20 minutes back again. How is that a hike?
I want to know what 23 mins equates to. I'm not athletic but I used to live in the boonies where 23 mins was your nearest friend's house so it sounds like nothing but then again my walking speed may be slower than others so for this to work, I'd need to know specific miles.
Anywhere we happily walk to at the moment is 30-45 minutes away. Though I do miss when I was living in Nottingham, back before having a car and a desk job made me lazy, and I would happily walk for 3 hours running errands
Do these people not walk their dogs? 23min is just around a block, not nearly enough. 23min walking to a job however, is a nice warmup before a work. If that woman needs water to such little distance, i'd start worrying about my health (l ive 15min away so it's perfect for me)
I can walk for hours but I normally drive everywhere because America is not built for walking. There is actually a history of why it isn't. When cars came around people were getting run over left and right and there was talk of banning cars from cities. Car industry then did huge campaigns against this, developed the term jay-walking, and did everything in their power to set cities and towns up for driving as the standard. When I lived in the country I would go for 3 or 4 hour walks. Live in the suburbs now and the only walking I do is to and from my car. When we go on vacation to the mountains every year, I just walk through the woods for hours and hours. Miss it.
I mean what do they mean with walking distance? Can I walk for 23 minutes? Of course, do I walk everywhere where it would take 23 minutes or less? No, need to grab something from store, sure I could walk to the closest one in 20 minutes, but I also could use my car and within that 20 minutes I would already be back at home using the stuff I needed to buy.
Lol liked the Crig post with the 2 photos, but the « European » one is actually in NA. There is 2 flags of Québec province ( Canada ) on the right.
Everyone who owns a dog should not have a problem walking 23 minutes. If you do, then you're not taking care of your dog.
I used to live in Asheboro, NC (sometimes referred to as Trashboro lol) and the way the "city planning" was set up verses where i lived adding that i had no car or bus transportation to where i needed to get to, i had about an hour and a half walking commute to get to my job, and the same back. Once i got a bicycle it cut the time in half but it was dangerous because it was on small city roads with lots of traffic and no sidewalks. Getting to my grocery store and library i did have sidewalks and was only about a 30 min walk, but it was up and down hills the whole way. And the way back would be carrying a few days worth of groceries. 23 mins carrying nothing but the clothes on back? Where i come from, that ain't s**t lol.
Used to work 1km from my house (200m of them inside my residential to the entrance) I took my car every single day. In between places there were several parking lots for trailers, you can imagine the sidewalks, and by imagine I mean they're only in your mind as there weren't any. Also, my schedule was 11:00-20:00 90% of the time, going out at that hour no sidewalk through a couple of dark spots? Hell no. Take me hiking 6h? I'm in.
Where I live, anything under 10 miles is “walking distance”. Then again, a lot of people where I live are frighteningly fit.
It really all depends. It takes me 45 minutes to walk to my local library which is 1.5 miles away on sidewalks that're BAD in snow/ice free weather. The sidewalks are uneven, there's often mud, slippery moss, etc. Throw in winter snow and ice, and sometimes you can look ahead of you down the sidewalk and it LOOKS okay because the snow is level but you KNOW the slate or concrete under it... isn't. It's funny because in hiker terminology you hear about walking 2 - 3 miles an hour on a good trail but with weather and conditions, maybe 1 or less and that actually goes for most of my countries sidewalks. Many in my city opt to walk or ride bikes on the actual street... in icy conditions, with possible distracted or drunk drivers and it's... very scary. I don't care how crazy I look, if I walk in my city, I wear knee braces, ankle braces, winter boots with micro spikes or crampons, elbows pads and a helmet.
Anything where you don't need to cross an ocean is technically within walking distance
23 minutes is nothing at all. I lived in Seattle with no car. Very easy. Walked, biked, and bussed. Fast forward to rural living, just going down the street is 2 miles. Nearest grocery is 5.
Today i walked 3km in 45 minutes with my 3 year old. She did not complain!!!
I get that some cities are not walkable, but don't tell me you can't walk for 23 minutes if you have the opportunity. Hell, even 3 hours is a walking distance.
I'll easily walk around the park or the woods trail for 2 hours, but the shop 10 min away it's too far as it's all boring roads and houses on the way! I'd walk 30 min both ways for a job, the way in was absolut misery and it felt like climbing the Everest on one leg carrying a dead rhino misery. The way back was wooooohoooo all along, so it really depends.
While area is important, as a person in a mostly sidewalked area, I am more concerned about weather. 23 minutes in the sun is a lot easier than 23 minutes of ice and snow.
Of course people would have strong opinions; it's Twitter. Twitter breeds argument & discord (not the app).
It's all relative I guess. I would walk around our property all day long ,cause there is stuff that needs to be done. It involves crossing a creek, walking up and down hills, etc.It talks 15 minutes just to get to the first dam. But I wouldn't walk the hour it would take to walk into town. Mind you if you were wearing boots or sneakers, all good but if you are walking in office shoes, 23 minutes would be hell.
You wouldn't survive a 23 minute walk in Johannesburg (South Africa).
You won't survive a 23 minute walk in Johannesburg (South Africa).
23 minutes is just a little bit shorter of the 2km walk I have to the nearest shopping center. But the thing is that I have the option of public transport from 500m from my door to the center. The end result is that I walk the distance if the weather is nice and I'm not in a hurry. Usually I take the metro or bus back home though, especially if I have any frozen goods
First off, when I was young and first met the girl I would marry, I walked 26 miles/42 km one way to see her... every Friday and Saturday evening. (I did start late afternoon and arrived hours later.) I lived in the city and she in the country. After we married we lived in the city. I walked/ran the 5 miles to work most of the time, but always ran home after work. I could get home faster than if I took the city buses. After we moved to the suburbs I would still walk over 2 miles to the pub and quite often home again. No sidewalks on those rural roads. After our two children were grown and married, I still walk to my son's house which is only about 0.3 mile/0.5 km away (uphill), but with permanent damage to my sciatic nerves, it takes me about 25-30 minutes. When our car is in the repair shop, I don't even think twice about walking the 2 miles to retrieve the car, although that takes me over an hour. Not once did I ever take a water bottle with me. I won't dry up and blow away.
I live in the US and walk all the time, but it helps that I live in a place near a lot of parks with tons of sidewalks in all the neighborhoods.
It’s depressing how dependent people are getting on technology. Saw someone at work have to use a calculator to work out 20+8 🤦♂️
When I'm tired of being in the house, I'll happily go out and walk for half an hour or more. But, I live in a neighborhood with sidewalks, and near a nice woods trail.
Also,I would much rather ride my bike for errands in town than drive, when it's decently warm out
Load More Replies...I’m American. A 23 minute walk is not long at all. That’s just a leisurely little stroll!
However, I would not walk in a city because I don’t like cities, they’re not good places for walks. I’d rather walk in the woods (which I do not consider a hike. Hiking should take hours)
Load More Replies...My mother casually mused one day that the reasons we are living longer might be due to all the preservatives we consume in modern processed food. I tried to point out the fallacy of that thinking, but she countered that we are really just walking meat and so why wouldn't it keep us "fresh" longer. I gave up; she won.
I think nothing of walking for 4 hours with the dogs in my converse all-stars, who the f**k are these people?
Most ripped off comedian, the magnificent Steven Wright said in the 80s "everywhere is walking distance - if you have the time".
"Actually I have no concept of time" SW - So I married an axe murderer.
Load More Replies...I'm super lame. While I could walk for miles in NYC where I grew up, walking in the suburbs where I live now sucks. Today I ordered food from a restaurant that I thought it was only a few blocks away from where I had an appointment. No big deal, I'll just walk over there and grab it and come back to my car and go home. However when I reached where I thought the restaurant was and looked at the map, I saw that it was a least another half mile away. Well I'm a native New Yorker, I can walk, so I decided to continue hoofing it. However, I realized I was starting to get fatigued because I was walking in flip-flops footwear that I don't normally wear much outside. I finally reached the restaurant picked up my food and decided to call a Lyft back to my car. I feel like I should turn in my native New Yorker card. Today I walked 0.7 miles to pick up food at a restaurant that I thought was a lot closer. I realized I didn't have it was wearing flip flops
I walk a lot further most days both alone and with my kids. I don't drive (yet). I'm used to it. Also use the time to listen to audiobooks if I'm alone. Makes it less of a drag. The only issue would be the weather. On days where it's pissing down I'll get a lift if possible.
I walk 35 min to work and another 35 back. I save so much money doing it like that and its a great way to wake myself up. Strange to think not everybody sees that as normal.
Also, are we talking a vigorous walk? You can do several miles in 23 minutes if you don't have any other pedestrians or obstacles and a decent sidewalk. If you're in a crowded megatropolis, 23 minutes might get you 1/2-1 mile from your starting point, if you're lucky.
I walk at work for an hour on one round of the mechanical rooms. I usually walk half of the work day. The deciding factor of when to walk or when to drive is, am I in a rush to get there? Will walking spend my time unnecessarily?
https://www.4daagse.nl/en Every year; just 50km a day or 125 miles in four days.
23 mins is nothing, i'd call anything under 1 hour a walking distance
I live in Vancouver BC Canada. I live next to Stanley park, I walk through the park, along the seawall and all the way downtown and back again. It takes me 2 to 2 and a half hours depending on my route if I stop for groceries. I live in a very walkable neighbourhood, if I do a short walk, the nearest mall is 4 minutes walk from my apartment.
Walking is normal in Denmark and 23 min's is nothing - even with your shopping...
I live in Australia, and walk/ ride my bike everywhere, 23 minutes is nothing for a lot of people because that’s just how they have to get around. I don’t drive and the buses are very unreliable
I regularly walk for 30 minutes +. Mainly because the public transport is pretty poor where I live Semi rural UK) I am also mobility impaired. We do generally have decent pavements although there is still a lack of dropped curbs in some places or they are blocked by people parking on them! I use a rollator. I do have my own transport but I would still prefer to walk for 30 minutes than use it, unless it's raining badly etc. I use public transport as it is free of charge for me.
Comment from The Rebel Colonies: Snowflakes. No respect for your excuses for not walking 23 minutes. I live 27 miles from my employer and regularly commute round trip by bicycle. No bike paths, no sidewalks, just sharing the road with four wheeled murder machines. Not every day, but at least twice a week in warm weather. It's done wonders for my health, saves money on gas and vehicle maintenance, and in a small way gives the flipper to Big Oil.
Love the comments where it's okay not to walk if theres no sidewalk. What's wrong with walking on grass?
In lots of places the alternative to the sidewalk is the *street* not some nice grassy verge.
Load More Replies...They'd poop the bed if they found out I took a 3-hour walk last weekend ...
Well yeah, if a 23 minute walk didn't sound like a journey to Americans do you think we'd have an epidemic of something we can quite literally walk away from?
In case you are genuinely misunderstanding, "a hike" is a phrase used to indicate that it's considered far to walk, especially if you don't have the right shoes. It's all relative.
Load More Replies...23 minutes is nothing. Of course it is walking distance. That gets me to the pub. Coming back from the pub, that's more than 23 minutes. And no longer walking distance.
Hence the term "having a pub withing staggering distance" ;-)
Load More Replies...It's not just about where you live and what shoes you're wearing. Do you have 23 minutes to walk each way when the drive would be about five minutes? Do you have a gaggle of small children to get from point A to point B? Are you lugging laundry to the laundromat and back, or groceries? What's the weather? Obviously I would love to take a leisurely stroll alone in the park for 23 minutes on a lovely day, but that isn't my life.
My friend told me he didn't believe in structural racism until he moved to a working class outer suburb of Boston that was mostly immigrants and there were no sidewalks. Also, yesterday I walked 40 minutes because I didn't want to pay $3 to take the subway, so that's also a factor that needs to be added to this discussion.
Oh yeah, no sidewalks is a big one. My county deliberately doesn't put sidewalks in some places bc they want the roads to be 'rural'
Load More Replies...Entirely area dependent. I currently live in a smaller mountain town, walks are nice and pleasant you could easily walk 30 or 45 minutes no problem. When I lived in Phoenix Arizona? Absolutely not, no way. If it's 110 degrees outside a 5 minute walk is wretched and miserable.
I dropped my car off for service the other day and walked home 5.4 miles (8.7km). Some of that was in a city environment with sidewalks and pedestrian crossings, some of it was on a high-speed rural road with steep ditches, narrow shoulders and no sidewalks or curbs. In some cases the ditch was so close to the edge of the road that I had no choice but to walk on the 'wrong' side (with traffic). Given the choice, I would have preferred to have driven that route.
How about a foldable bike/scooter in your car, for dropoff/pickup?
Load More Replies...23 miles is nothing for The Proclaimers. They would walk 500 miles and they would walk 500 more
Yeah... but they will fall down at your door at the end of it! Unfit sods! 😆😜
Load More Replies...Why do people care about how much walking is harder for them. Dude, respect how much of anything bothers a person, even if it doesn't bother you.
I walk 45 mins 2xs a day w my dog in the trails behind my house. I wouldn't want to walk that on my street I live on though There is absolutely no sidewalk or streetlights I live in a state park. The roads are not safe at all to walk on. You have to swerve to the shoulder if two cars are going past each other on some parts of the road. People roll into the ditches all the time. Can't tell you how many times my husband has helped people pull their cars out w his truck. My sil rolled her car twice.
It would depend on your physical health and ability. I'm used to walking long distances. 23 minutes is about the same time it takes for me to get to the nearest convenient store, which I walk to every now and then. I've walked even longer to get to the mall. The longest walk I recall going on was about 8 hours for a job I had. But that's not normal. Anything over an hour and your hands start swelling and legs start burning.
And weather. 23 minutes in nice summer day is an easy walking distance. At dark November evening when wind is blasting wet snow against your face, not a walking distance.
Load More Replies...In the defence of people living in the US, most places just aren't built for walking. I live in Germany now I've previously lived in the UK, Australia and the US. I've never thought anything of walking 2-3km regularly and sometimes 10km or more. The only exception was when I lived on the outskirts of Denver, CO. There, it was a drama to walk a fraction of that and Denver is apparently not even that bad compared to other places. The US is made for cars, apparently.
This. I would love to be able to walk everywhere I want to go (even as an American.) I have 2 dogs that get walked twice per day, at least, and I love to walk in general. If I walked to work, it would take 3.5 hours, assuming I survived the journey. Each way. Luckily my home is in a very walkable neighborhood. I do 23 minutes for the right cup of coffee Saturday morning!
Load More Replies...American here. I live in Georgia in a fairly big city (for our area). I love walking, but we don't have good/reliable public transport, sidewalks, or bike lanes. When I travel to somewhere like Madrid, London, Oxford, NYC, or Boston, I walk everywhere I possibly can. The subway systems are great and walking isn't a big deal. I live about a 10 minute drive from work, but walking or biking would mean crossing 4 busy roads and railroad tracks in the dark. It's just not safe or feasible, unfortunately.
Also, I take my dog on a 20-30 min walk daily, so no, 23 minutes won't kill me
Load More Replies...It depends on the temperature. If you walked 23 minutes in south or even central florida especially during summer and in the city... it is crazy hot.
Same in the northern states during January. You're not walking 23 minutes when it's a high of -30 and there 30mph winds.
Load More Replies...I don't think 23 minutes is long at all, but in my city 23 minutes can get you into a bad part of town pretty quickly, so that would be what would keep me from walking instead of driving. *edit* also alot of the US doesn't have very good sidewalks, or any sidewalks at all next to streets. And at least in my city, there are practically no bike lanes, and you can't ride bikes on the sidewalks.
Before covid destroyed my lungs I'd walk everywhere. Sometimes for hours. Longest was I think around 2 hours. Now I can't walk for five minutes without needing oxygen.
I am so sorry for you. I hope you'll feel better in a while. Wish you health.
Load More Replies...So basically a few people complain and suddenly it's all Americans? I'm so tired of being put under this "American umbrella". Where I live most people walk everywhere, it's very situational. Stop this "Americans are stupid. Americans are lazy. Americans are horrible people". I've friggin had it with being judged by ASSHOLES that don't know most of us.
As a wheelchair user, if it's even and flat I could do it. Bumpy, uphill, degrading concrete, uneven pavement, etc. there's no way. Even having someone push me over that difficult terrain is a no, that will jar me too much and I'll be in too much pain to even move another inch. Like put me in a diaper and in bed and be prepared to clean up after me I'm not moving for anything kind of pain
My congressional district just got a federal grant for infrastructure. There were town hall meetings on how to best use it. The vocal majority wanted sidewalks. There was a petition with thousands of signatures to use the money for sidewalks. Our Representative just announced that the money will go to police departments. Go figure. Democray is a lie. ☹️
We had the same! We wanted sidewalks and bike lanes! .... we got police "training" (read: guns for the cops).W TF, right? I feel you.
Load More Replies...Walking to school was 2 miles for me (4 miles there and back) took me 40 minutes to walk to school as a teen and i was fine. sad to think that 23 minutes is a full on hike for some people
Since I could walk to school cross-farms as a kid ---- and did ---- it was no big deal. On a road without sidewalks or any shoulder? It's suicide. Since I now use a cane, I don't even try to walk where it's not meant for pedestrians. I can't hop outta the way!
Load More Replies...It's not as easy as how long, it's also terrain and circumstance. Where I live we're all living on various volcanoes, everything is a hill, a combo of steep or shallow gradients, paths are horrendous and not kept up. In other areas it's more flat, there's paths or grass to walk on. Easy to walk 20 mins elsewhere, not so much here. As an example, I would regularly go for walks of 30-40 mins in the area, had to drop my car off for a service 20 mins away in the opposite direction to my normal walks which I got a lift home from, but thought 'NO worries, I'll walk to pick the car up!', got my mum in her wheelchair and off we went. 10 minutes in I had to call for a ride because we'd already had to cross the road 5 times, mum had just about been tipped out of her chair twice because broken paths means we had to go onto the road (a main highway). When we're overseas or in flatter areas we happily walk for hours. You also have to ask if you have enough time. When I have time to get to where I'm going then love to walk to the train station 15 mins away, when I don't then I jump in my car and just go where I'm going. Same trip (home to work) in the car saves me 1.5hrs EACH WAY, because our public transport is crap.
"Anywhere is walking distance if you have the time".-Steven Wright. I will easily walk an hour to the stores each way. I live in American suburbia and I can take the bus. The bus takes much longer though. I can get out and shop and get back before the bus returns to my neighborhood. Anything further than 3 miles better have window shopping along the route!
As the weird American who has never had a driver's license and bike/walk/bus everywhere, I really hate how dependent American's are on their vehicles. Many won't even walk a few blocks on a nice day, but some do make a point that some areas have been deliberately designed around car dependency. 23 minutes of walking is nothing, but if you have to do it surrounded by the noise of cars, it does kind of suck and I am quite sick of cars being all I ever F*&^% hear.
*laughs in any job that requires standing, walking, lifting, etc* wtf is wrong with you people? There are literally several mountain ranges, deserts, national forests, canyons, and wilderness areas everywhere. Americans *live* in those regions. They work in them. Of course Americans walk. Just not necessarily down the cliff, over the river, and through the woods, to get to work. What a ridiculous stereotype.
Unfortunately, I'm too old and out of shape now to do it anymore, but any one of these @ssholes taking yet another opportunity to bash Americans would have been begging for mercy if I'd taken them along on one of my all day outdoor photo shoots back in the day.
I walk around 5 miles each day with my dogs around the local heath, this takes about 70-80 minutes and is not what I would consider to be strenuous. I also do longer walks at weekends, typically 2-3 hours through forests and heaths. Anyone under 60 and able bodied who finds 23 minutes of walking difficult needs to seriously consider their lifestyle.
It doesn't just depend on where you are, it depends on where you are going. If I need to walk 23 minutes to work... I'm fine with that, since I'm there all day. Unless it is a hot day, since I don't want to get to work sweaty. If it is 23 minutes to a friend's house, and I'm going to hang out there for a while, then yeah. But if it is 23 minutes to walk to the corner store to spend 5 minutes grabbing a loaf of bread, and then 23 minutes back again... I'm less likely to do that, unless I have lots of time to kill that day.
depends very much where you live, I pretty much walk everywhere but when it is -20c and I am coming back from work (ie work clothing) hell no. I have done it but was chilled to the bone by the time I got home. Not a great way to end a long day
I take my dog on longer walks than that and I am overweight and out of shape.
Hey! Do not make fun of unitedstatesians. Carrying your 160 pounds for 23 minutes is nothing. Try carrying my 239 pounds!.. That is more than twice as much...or is it.... three times as much....wait, I also failed mathematics.
It all depends on the area you are walking in. Those American cityscapes, with some notable exceptions, are deathtraps for pedestrians.
I feel grateful that I live somewhere really small. Having to walk only 3-8 minutes to get to most places has spoiled me so much that 23 minutes sounds like a run to me. Sorry guys.
There's nothing within a 23-minute walk from my house except farmland and other houses. And there are no sidewalks within 5km of my house.
I don't know, I'm in New Zealand and I work in retail. On top of all the walking around at work I walk home from work every day, about an hour's walk, around 5km, mostly on sidewalks next to busy roads. Maybe it's just coz I'm used to it, but that's not that bad. I don't drive so I have to walk every where - it's good exercise, and gives me plenty of time to listen to audiobooks. Only drawback is that I can't buy ice-creams or frozen foods because of the walking distance and time.
A friend used a pedometer at her retail job and discovered that she walked 30km a day just in her job!
Load More Replies...Totally depends upon the location and walking conditions. Urban areas with well lit sidewalks, yes, very doable. Rural areas and some suburbs may not be so doable. It's all about personal safety in this day and age, not laziness.
An absolutely great YT on the shittyass "Stroads" that cover so much of the US and explain why 23 minute walk in Chicago or New York is super doable and the same walk in the Suburbs an hour away is a nightmare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM
23 minutes is definitely walking distance, but I might not do it depending on the weather.
23 minutes is a stroll around the corner. In comfortable shoes though, I can't walk more than 5 mins in heels
Yeah, this absolutely blew my mind when I was living in the U.S. I was really lucky to live in a pretty walkable city in California (though I still needed to carpool to get to work), but when I visited my friend in San Bernardino and asked if we could go for an evening walk, she side-eyed me sceptically. We tried and lasted 15 minutes. In that time, we were almost attacked by a dog and came close to being hit by several cars because there were NO sidewalks. I moved to Germany/UK since and haven't owned a car in four years. I've always loved walking and now I walk everywhere - even if it's over an hour away - just because I can. Good infrastructure matters.
I'm lost, at work for lunch I walk 20 minutes to the supermarket to grab lunch and then 20 minutes back again. How is that a hike?
I want to know what 23 mins equates to. I'm not athletic but I used to live in the boonies where 23 mins was your nearest friend's house so it sounds like nothing but then again my walking speed may be slower than others so for this to work, I'd need to know specific miles.
Anywhere we happily walk to at the moment is 30-45 minutes away. Though I do miss when I was living in Nottingham, back before having a car and a desk job made me lazy, and I would happily walk for 3 hours running errands
Do these people not walk their dogs? 23min is just around a block, not nearly enough. 23min walking to a job however, is a nice warmup before a work. If that woman needs water to such little distance, i'd start worrying about my health (l ive 15min away so it's perfect for me)
I can walk for hours but I normally drive everywhere because America is not built for walking. There is actually a history of why it isn't. When cars came around people were getting run over left and right and there was talk of banning cars from cities. Car industry then did huge campaigns against this, developed the term jay-walking, and did everything in their power to set cities and towns up for driving as the standard. When I lived in the country I would go for 3 or 4 hour walks. Live in the suburbs now and the only walking I do is to and from my car. When we go on vacation to the mountains every year, I just walk through the woods for hours and hours. Miss it.
I mean what do they mean with walking distance? Can I walk for 23 minutes? Of course, do I walk everywhere where it would take 23 minutes or less? No, need to grab something from store, sure I could walk to the closest one in 20 minutes, but I also could use my car and within that 20 minutes I would already be back at home using the stuff I needed to buy.
Lol liked the Crig post with the 2 photos, but the « European » one is actually in NA. There is 2 flags of Québec province ( Canada ) on the right.
Everyone who owns a dog should not have a problem walking 23 minutes. If you do, then you're not taking care of your dog.
I used to live in Asheboro, NC (sometimes referred to as Trashboro lol) and the way the "city planning" was set up verses where i lived adding that i had no car or bus transportation to where i needed to get to, i had about an hour and a half walking commute to get to my job, and the same back. Once i got a bicycle it cut the time in half but it was dangerous because it was on small city roads with lots of traffic and no sidewalks. Getting to my grocery store and library i did have sidewalks and was only about a 30 min walk, but it was up and down hills the whole way. And the way back would be carrying a few days worth of groceries. 23 mins carrying nothing but the clothes on back? Where i come from, that ain't s**t lol.
Used to work 1km from my house (200m of them inside my residential to the entrance) I took my car every single day. In between places there were several parking lots for trailers, you can imagine the sidewalks, and by imagine I mean they're only in your mind as there weren't any. Also, my schedule was 11:00-20:00 90% of the time, going out at that hour no sidewalk through a couple of dark spots? Hell no. Take me hiking 6h? I'm in.
Where I live, anything under 10 miles is “walking distance”. Then again, a lot of people where I live are frighteningly fit.
It really all depends. It takes me 45 minutes to walk to my local library which is 1.5 miles away on sidewalks that're BAD in snow/ice free weather. The sidewalks are uneven, there's often mud, slippery moss, etc. Throw in winter snow and ice, and sometimes you can look ahead of you down the sidewalk and it LOOKS okay because the snow is level but you KNOW the slate or concrete under it... isn't. It's funny because in hiker terminology you hear about walking 2 - 3 miles an hour on a good trail but with weather and conditions, maybe 1 or less and that actually goes for most of my countries sidewalks. Many in my city opt to walk or ride bikes on the actual street... in icy conditions, with possible distracted or drunk drivers and it's... very scary. I don't care how crazy I look, if I walk in my city, I wear knee braces, ankle braces, winter boots with micro spikes or crampons, elbows pads and a helmet.
Anything where you don't need to cross an ocean is technically within walking distance
23 minutes is nothing at all. I lived in Seattle with no car. Very easy. Walked, biked, and bussed. Fast forward to rural living, just going down the street is 2 miles. Nearest grocery is 5.
Today i walked 3km in 45 minutes with my 3 year old. She did not complain!!!
I get that some cities are not walkable, but don't tell me you can't walk for 23 minutes if you have the opportunity. Hell, even 3 hours is a walking distance.
I'll easily walk around the park or the woods trail for 2 hours, but the shop 10 min away it's too far as it's all boring roads and houses on the way! I'd walk 30 min both ways for a job, the way in was absolut misery and it felt like climbing the Everest on one leg carrying a dead rhino misery. The way back was wooooohoooo all along, so it really depends.
While area is important, as a person in a mostly sidewalked area, I am more concerned about weather. 23 minutes in the sun is a lot easier than 23 minutes of ice and snow.
Of course people would have strong opinions; it's Twitter. Twitter breeds argument & discord (not the app).
It's all relative I guess. I would walk around our property all day long ,cause there is stuff that needs to be done. It involves crossing a creek, walking up and down hills, etc.It talks 15 minutes just to get to the first dam. But I wouldn't walk the hour it would take to walk into town. Mind you if you were wearing boots or sneakers, all good but if you are walking in office shoes, 23 minutes would be hell.
You wouldn't survive a 23 minute walk in Johannesburg (South Africa).
You won't survive a 23 minute walk in Johannesburg (South Africa).
23 minutes is just a little bit shorter of the 2km walk I have to the nearest shopping center. But the thing is that I have the option of public transport from 500m from my door to the center. The end result is that I walk the distance if the weather is nice and I'm not in a hurry. Usually I take the metro or bus back home though, especially if I have any frozen goods
First off, when I was young and first met the girl I would marry, I walked 26 miles/42 km one way to see her... every Friday and Saturday evening. (I did start late afternoon and arrived hours later.) I lived in the city and she in the country. After we married we lived in the city. I walked/ran the 5 miles to work most of the time, but always ran home after work. I could get home faster than if I took the city buses. After we moved to the suburbs I would still walk over 2 miles to the pub and quite often home again. No sidewalks on those rural roads. After our two children were grown and married, I still walk to my son's house which is only about 0.3 mile/0.5 km away (uphill), but with permanent damage to my sciatic nerves, it takes me about 25-30 minutes. When our car is in the repair shop, I don't even think twice about walking the 2 miles to retrieve the car, although that takes me over an hour. Not once did I ever take a water bottle with me. I won't dry up and blow away.
I live in the US and walk all the time, but it helps that I live in a place near a lot of parks with tons of sidewalks in all the neighborhoods.
It’s depressing how dependent people are getting on technology. Saw someone at work have to use a calculator to work out 20+8 🤦♂️
When I'm tired of being in the house, I'll happily go out and walk for half an hour or more. But, I live in a neighborhood with sidewalks, and near a nice woods trail.
Also,I would much rather ride my bike for errands in town than drive, when it's decently warm out
Load More Replies...I’m American. A 23 minute walk is not long at all. That’s just a leisurely little stroll!
However, I would not walk in a city because I don’t like cities, they’re not good places for walks. I’d rather walk in the woods (which I do not consider a hike. Hiking should take hours)
Load More Replies...My mother casually mused one day that the reasons we are living longer might be due to all the preservatives we consume in modern processed food. I tried to point out the fallacy of that thinking, but she countered that we are really just walking meat and so why wouldn't it keep us "fresh" longer. I gave up; she won.
I think nothing of walking for 4 hours with the dogs in my converse all-stars, who the f**k are these people?
Most ripped off comedian, the magnificent Steven Wright said in the 80s "everywhere is walking distance - if you have the time".
"Actually I have no concept of time" SW - So I married an axe murderer.
Load More Replies...I'm super lame. While I could walk for miles in NYC where I grew up, walking in the suburbs where I live now sucks. Today I ordered food from a restaurant that I thought it was only a few blocks away from where I had an appointment. No big deal, I'll just walk over there and grab it and come back to my car and go home. However when I reached where I thought the restaurant was and looked at the map, I saw that it was a least another half mile away. Well I'm a native New Yorker, I can walk, so I decided to continue hoofing it. However, I realized I was starting to get fatigued because I was walking in flip-flops footwear that I don't normally wear much outside. I finally reached the restaurant picked up my food and decided to call a Lyft back to my car. I feel like I should turn in my native New Yorker card. Today I walked 0.7 miles to pick up food at a restaurant that I thought was a lot closer. I realized I didn't have it was wearing flip flops
I walk a lot further most days both alone and with my kids. I don't drive (yet). I'm used to it. Also use the time to listen to audiobooks if I'm alone. Makes it less of a drag. The only issue would be the weather. On days where it's pissing down I'll get a lift if possible.
I walk 35 min to work and another 35 back. I save so much money doing it like that and its a great way to wake myself up. Strange to think not everybody sees that as normal.
Also, are we talking a vigorous walk? You can do several miles in 23 minutes if you don't have any other pedestrians or obstacles and a decent sidewalk. If you're in a crowded megatropolis, 23 minutes might get you 1/2-1 mile from your starting point, if you're lucky.
I walk at work for an hour on one round of the mechanical rooms. I usually walk half of the work day. The deciding factor of when to walk or when to drive is, am I in a rush to get there? Will walking spend my time unnecessarily?
https://www.4daagse.nl/en Every year; just 50km a day or 125 miles in four days.
23 mins is nothing, i'd call anything under 1 hour a walking distance
I live in Vancouver BC Canada. I live next to Stanley park, I walk through the park, along the seawall and all the way downtown and back again. It takes me 2 to 2 and a half hours depending on my route if I stop for groceries. I live in a very walkable neighbourhood, if I do a short walk, the nearest mall is 4 minutes walk from my apartment.
Walking is normal in Denmark and 23 min's is nothing - even with your shopping...
I live in Australia, and walk/ ride my bike everywhere, 23 minutes is nothing for a lot of people because that’s just how they have to get around. I don’t drive and the buses are very unreliable
I regularly walk for 30 minutes +. Mainly because the public transport is pretty poor where I live Semi rural UK) I am also mobility impaired. We do generally have decent pavements although there is still a lack of dropped curbs in some places or they are blocked by people parking on them! I use a rollator. I do have my own transport but I would still prefer to walk for 30 minutes than use it, unless it's raining badly etc. I use public transport as it is free of charge for me.
Comment from The Rebel Colonies: Snowflakes. No respect for your excuses for not walking 23 minutes. I live 27 miles from my employer and regularly commute round trip by bicycle. No bike paths, no sidewalks, just sharing the road with four wheeled murder machines. Not every day, but at least twice a week in warm weather. It's done wonders for my health, saves money on gas and vehicle maintenance, and in a small way gives the flipper to Big Oil.
Love the comments where it's okay not to walk if theres no sidewalk. What's wrong with walking on grass?
In lots of places the alternative to the sidewalk is the *street* not some nice grassy verge.
Load More Replies...They'd poop the bed if they found out I took a 3-hour walk last weekend ...
Well yeah, if a 23 minute walk didn't sound like a journey to Americans do you think we'd have an epidemic of something we can quite literally walk away from?
In case you are genuinely misunderstanding, "a hike" is a phrase used to indicate that it's considered far to walk, especially if you don't have the right shoes. It's all relative.
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