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Guy Turns Down Twin Brother And Ex-Girlfriend’s Wedding Invitation, Asks If He’s Wrong
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Guy Turns Down Twin Brother And Ex-Girlfriend’s Wedding Invitation, Asks If He’s Wrong

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It’s no big secret that you can’t choose who you fall in love with; “the heart wants what it wants” and whatnot – however, for some families, this complicates things.

A user who goes by u/Much_Significance157 took online to share his own story. The thing is, the guy called it quits with his high school sweetheart right before heading off to college, and a year later, he discovered that his twin brother and his ex had become an item. Eventually, the pair got engaged, and the author wasn’t exactly thrilled about it. 

More info: Reddit | Sven Lauch | Rachel New

Guy turns down his twin brother’s wedding invitation as he’s getting hitched to his ex

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His family accuses him of being “selfish” and demands that he “suck it up” for one night

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AITA for refusing to attend my twin brother’s wedding?” – this internet user took to one of Reddit’s most thought-provoking and judgmental communities to ask its members if it was a jerk move to turn down his twin brother’s wedding invitation since he’s tying the knot with his ex-girlfriend. The post managed to garner 5K upvotes as well as 1.3K comments discussing the situation.

Things happen, and you can’t expect others to accommodate your feelings – however, there are moments when you wish it was possible. 

The creator of the post first started dating his now-ex when they were both 16, but right before they were about to head to college, they decided to separate. The guy went to a place a few hours away – however, his high school sweetheart stayed local. When he returned home from his first year, his brother told him that he and his ex had become a thing. Naturally, the author wasn’t pumped about the news, but there was nothing that could’ve been done, and the two eventually agreed to keep things civil as long as the twin never mentioned her or made them interact. 

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Fast forward to now: the brother surprised the author with another set of news and told him that the two had gotten engaged. Moreover, the sibling also wanted the guy to be his best man, but as you probably guessed, he refused. 

The Redditor then got a fair share of flak from his family, who called him “selfish” and demanded he “suck it up” for one night. He doesn’t feel comfortable participating in such an event, which is why he headed online to find out if he’s in the wrong. 

Now, to get a more professional outlook on this situation, Bored Panda decided to reach out to a couple of experts. First, we contacted Sven Lauch (UK) and invited him to introduce himself to our readers: “I’m an accredited Emotional Logic Coach who specialises in helping couples build deeper emotional connections through learning an emotional language that enables them to handle their conflicts assertively and vulnerably.” We then pondered whether it’s ethical to have a romantic relationship with your sibling’s ex, to which the man replied as follows: “It is not a question of ethics. If all parties have recovered from the emotional setbacks such a situation can cause, there is not much of a problem. Things become complicated when the emotional wounds are not properly dealt with.”

The man felt confident in his decision, yet he was still unsure if it was the right one

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Lastly, BP asked Sven Lauch how one should handle such a situation:

“Firstly, the twins have never worked through the problem. The agreement they reached looks like a coping mechanism that damaged their relationship. The conflict of interest has become a wall between them. The proposed wedding has amplified all that pain, and everyone seems surprised about the intensity.

How do you handle that problem?

There is no quick solution if all value all the relationships involved. Each person has to recognise that they have been hurt in some way.

The brother who broke up with his girlfriend carries a lot of unresolved grief caused by three damaged relationships – to his ex, to his brother, and to his family. The breakup with his ex impacted his relationship with his family and, eventually, his brother. He needs to recognise that he values all those relationships and that the emotions he feels are not caused by all those events but by his values. I guess he values his family, his brother and his ex. I even wonder if he actually got over his ex.

As it sounds in the post, all parties seem to be surprised by the intensity of the pain that surfaced, which is not uncommon because we don’t think systemically. To work things through, they need to recognise the complexity of the situation and the many relationships that are at stake. Each party must identify what they value and then learn to communicate those values openly and assertively to each other. That can help all parties gain a deeper understanding of each other. Once they see how all feel about the situation differently and do not see the implication to others, they have a better foundation to restore the relationships. If they are unwilling to go down the route of reconciliation and restoration, they will eventually destroy one relationship to hold on to another. The long-term implications of that are very difficult to predict.

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For the new couple, it is also super important to talk those things through and identify what implications it has on their relationship. Both need to understand that they will face setbacks and pains in the future because of the situation. Only open and vulnerable conversations will enable them to build a deep emotional connection that can carry the pain outside their relationship without destroying relationships they value.

Looking at the complexity of the problem, I would try to bring in a professional who facilitates them in learning about each other. But that would need commitment and a willingness from all parties to restore and reconcile.”

So he took to one of Reddit’s favorite communities to get some unbiased feedback

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Our second expert is Rachel New, a dating and relationships coach and educator in London, UK.

“With all ethical issues, it depends! I can imagine a healthy scenario in which your sibling hadn’t been together that long with the person, where the breakup was amicable, and where the siblings had an honest, supportive, caring relationship with each other. In that case, the siblings would communicate with each other openly, want the best for each other, accept that life can be messy and painful, and value relationships more than being ‘right’,” our second expert said when we posed a similar question regarding the wrongfulness of dating your sibling’s ex.

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We also invited Rachel New to share her professional take on how to tackle the situation, to which she said:

“Here’s a story of two siblings that deal with the situation in a healthy way.

Let’s call Sibling 1 the one that went out with the person first. I would suggest that a few months after the breakup, Sibling 2 could discuss with Sibling 1 that they wanted to go out with the ex. Sibling 2 would need to empathise with Sibling 1’s emotions, acknowledge that it might be painful, and express a desire to minimise that pain. Sibling 1 might say they were happy for them to date but they would rather not see them together unless it got serious. Sibling 1 could also take some time to talk to friends or a counsellor (or dating coach!) to process the relationship and their feelings about their sibling. They might conclude something like ‘Part of me feels as if my sibling has betrayed me and that they have conspired behind my back. But another part of me knows that’s not true, that my sibling and my ex are good people and would only do this if they really had to. The paranoid, humiliated part of me isn’t the mature me but an insecure part of myself that I can work on and comfort. The more mature part of me wants my sibling to find love.’

After, say, six months, Sibling 2 could then communicate to Sibling 1 why they thought the relationship had long-term potential and ask if they felt ready to see them. Sibling 1 might say ‘Part of me is struggling with some painful feelings and wondering how I’m going to feel about seeing you together, but part of me wants to support you if this relationship is going to make you happy. That part of me knows that seeing you together will get easier the more I do it and it would be better to do it sooner rather than later so it doesn’t become too big an issue.’

Sibling 2 and their partner would make sure they were sensitive, for example, by not being too demonstrative in front of Sibling 1 at first or keeping the meetings short and with other members of the family around. Sibling 1 would be careful to be friendly and not make a drama out of any awkwardness. Sibling 2 would continue to communicate with Sibling 1 about the relationship becoming more serious. Sibling 1 would be enjoying their own social life and love life, dating other people and having plenty of people to get emotional support from. Perhaps the siblings would grow a little further apart now they have their own romantic lives, but they would make the effort to keep their connection going.

Then, when Sibling 2 announced their engagement, Sibling 1 would be better prepared. Perhaps Sibling 2 could tell Sibling 1 in private and Sibling 1 could congratulate Sibling 2, while at the same time acknowledging inwardly that part of them felt a little sad or envious. By this stage, Sibling 1 would have a healthy way of dealing with negative emotions so that they didn’t become overwhelming and didn’t jeopardise valuable relationships.”

What do you think of the issue now that the experts have provided their opinions?

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zak
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Setting aside the issue at hand, why tf do people get married at 21 (before their brain is even fully formed)? What's the rush?

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Rachel Ainsworth
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can you imagine when she started dating twin2? Oh Steve, oh Steve umm oops I forgot, oh Sam, oh Sam.

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and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ngl I think this is more weird than anything. Sounds like the plot of a s****y porno.

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Marno C.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go to the wedding and preserve the relationship with the rest of the family. Be aloof and dignified. There is no way OP would look like the weird one at this wedding. People will be looking at the couple and thinking, "She broke up with Identical Twin 1 and is now marrying Twin 2? WTF? And Twin 2 was good with that?" It does not feel like they are awash with good judgment. And they are only 21. Resist the urge to start a betting pool.

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B.Nelson
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can we just talk about how she is dating/getting married to the identical twin of her high school boyfriend? And the identical twin thought it was a great idea? That has some issues that might need resolving...

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Nikole
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, I’m surprised the groom didn’t realize he was pretty much a super convenient replacement.

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Sa Ruuu
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People really gotta stop dating friend's or family's exes.

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Ael
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People need to stop to see their ex as their personal belonging. If someone has 30 friends, does that mean his ex isn't allowed to date these 30 men? Just because he isn't man enough to grow up and handle the fact that she could prefer someone else?

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Ron Baza
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’d be interested to know how long it was before the family knew the twin brother was s****ing the ex-girlfriend. Either A/The twin brother knew it was sketchy, and kept it a secret from the family for 6 months; or B/The family knew and kept it quiet from the OP.

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S Mi
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While I think asking the twin to be best man is a bit much, the people noting that holding onto an old high-school relationship will make things difficult are onto something. I don't think they need to be best friends, but probably time for some kind of truce.

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Justin Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First is he didnt break up with the gf for lack of caring about her, but because neither thought long distance would work. Second is that his twin brother waited maybe 6 months before jumping into bed with her. And finally they did have a truce with op not having to go to events or anything with the ex. But the twin is now acting like he not only has to go, but stand next to him as he marries the woman he loved for 3+ years.

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R Dennis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am gonna say he gets a pass. BUT he needs to figure out how to get over it. They broke up, she dated someone else and is marrying them. Life happens and there is too much left of it at 21 (hopefully) to let this ruin his relationship with his family. He has a right to feel how he feels, but if he were more mature, he would do it.

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BlueEyesWhiteDragon
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is horrible for OP, but it's happening and will continue for as long as his brother is married to his ex. The brother should have been upfront about the relationship, but sometimes emotions get the better of people. But OP will have to get over it at some point if he wants to remain part of the family. Dating for two years in high school seems significant at 21, but it probably won't matter in ten years if OP doesn't ruminate on the "betrayal" and ruin his life thinking about it. OP and his ex don't have to be best friends, and OP doesn't have to be the best man, but now would be a good time to talk to his ex and try to find common ground. (Of course, it's also possible this is fake. This post is basically the plot of The Hating Game and To All the Boys I've Loved Before.)

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Alexa/echo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She waited two after they broke up to date his identical twin he is allowed to set boundaries especially with something that creepy

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Allen Packard
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok. It's gross that his brother pursued the relationship. It's gross that the girl pursued the relationship. It's gross that the family is ok with the relationship.

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Happy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not gross at all. The O P and ex girlfriend CHOSE to break up...at least according to OP. He needs to get over it and not have the"those were my toys..,i don't want to play with them but NOBODY ELSE can either" That's tough s**t.

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StevieLove
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Be a better person. It feels good in the long run. Be his best man, be happy for them. The time will come that you will be happy you did.

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David
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA in terms of choosing not to be "best man". But you ARE being petty and selfish (or at least immature) if you can't choose to civil around her in social gatherings. My ex wife did some really bad / hurtful things and I do not like or trust her but we cans till be civil to each other in social gatherings with mutual family. TLDR: You can set healthy boundaries without being a butt about it.

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Janet C
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get that he's upset and I understand why, but she's going to be part of the family. This is way bigger than just the wedding. Is OP never going to attend Christmas or Thanksgiving with extended family because ex will be there? Will he have nothing to do with nieces or nephews in the future? OP and his brother need to figure this out now.

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Mad McQueen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well when you left her she just couldn't leave "you" and got the carbon copy. Hope she wasn't doing all this to get back at you for leaving her. But maybe it was just something in his personality even though you are twins that she just likes more to marry him. You should go. He's a second rare version of you and I'm sure you can just be like oh well I dodged that bullet and wish them well. It's a night out and a meal with drinks and dancing. Plus you can bring a girl as a friend that looks nothing like her to show her she wasn't your type.

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Anne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Either one is being used. Either he swooped in to a mourning lady, or she is just mirroring her ex. But since she broke up with Twin 1.. I think something fishy is going on. Is the fam very rich perhaps?

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Shawnna Clement
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All of them are AHs in this case! GF and twin for breaking the "Rule of One". You can only date one from a group of friends or one in a family. No exceptions. OP is being a retaliatory AH about the wedding. Suck it up buttercup! He's going to be your brother for life and she'll at least be around awhile. I agree with others that 21 is too young to get married. I got married at 21 and divorced within 3 yrs. It was nothing more than realizing that we were different people than we were at 19. Our goals and aspirations changed into our adult versions.

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Bhadrika Love
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never heard of "rule of one." I went to a small college, and that rule would have been impossible. (Generally said if you tied a string between everyone who had ever been involved... no one could move.) instead we had a general understanding that exes might avoid each other for a while (so you'd let folks know who would be at an event), but no dividing up the friends between them, and no banning futures with anyone else in the group. As a result, I went to a wedding where there was a hilarious and cheerful photo line of the bride's ex boyfriends - all still friends (one of them my spouse), and a highly entertaining attempt to line up in chronological order.

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Moezzzz
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. This is kinda creepy to me. Dating the TWIN of your first "love"? Nope. Hell nah. NTA

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Venice
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Damn dude you really got a gut slicing by an ex hooking up with your brother 2 months after you broke up. With a brother who had zero respect for you by not letting you know he's dating this peach but blindsided you with a best man request. I'm surprised at " get over it" comments on here. Who the hell dies test to their sibling especially identical twins. Nobody in that family cares about your feelings. Your brother the least. Also did no one talk sense into his head when this dating started. How was it okay for them to watch this same girl jump from one brother to the next. Remember family is not only the ones you are born into, but also the ones YOU create. Dude they don't care about you but want you to toe the line. Dump em. NTA.

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The Starsong Princess
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. This was a high school girlfriend, not his wife. In some areas, the dating pool is small so if you avoid everyone your sibling dated, that leaves no one. There’s no cheating here or bad blood - it seems like he expected her to wait around for him in case he decided he still wanted her after he played the field. You can’t call “baggsies for life” on an actual person. If he chooses to die on this hill, his family is going to rightly side with his twin.

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Tyke
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a horrible situation but he needs to really think about this. Is he will to avoid all family gatherings and never be a part of his neice's/nephew's lives because of a two year teen romance? Best thing he can do (it's tough, but possible) is move on and meet someone else that he truly loves.

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Casey McAlister
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While I agree it's a bit weird for his ex to start dating his twin two months after their breakup, but why does it bother him now? He should have got over it a long time ago.

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Pursuing Peonies
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They broke up at 18, they're now 21....that's not a long time....for either getting used to the idea that your ex, who broke up with you, is now with your identical twin AND they're getting married. Honestly, she seems sus. She dated someone for years, broke up due to distance (fair), then almost immediately started dating their twin and are getting married so quickly? I get things change and a few years can be a big thing sometimes, but it's just .... suspicious.

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Yvonne Dauwalder Balsiger
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, our feelings are our feelings and it's perfectly fine to have them but we can all be pragmatic about it, too. Even more first, don't get married at 21, wth? It actually seems it was a mutual decision to break up (not sure about this one, because he sure holds a real grudge against her years later) and she didn't cheat on him with his twin or did anything else despicable. So, he should be a bit more pragmatic about it - don't be the best man but go to the wedding, be polite and stop avoiding her on purpose. Statistics say, that marriage most likely won't last super long. PS: The woman sure is like "I find you unbelievable attractive, it's just your personality why it didn't work out". Ouch.

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Lily Mae Kitty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

#1-this marriage won't last. they are 21 years old and their brains are not done growing yet. #2-yeah it's weird they jumped in after 2 months but clearly they already knew one another. Maybe they caught feelings before your breakup. Who knows? No longer matters. #3 buck up. you dated someone as a freaking TEEN. Life goes on and she's going to be your sister in law. Play nice and don't be a di*k. #4- take a bet with another family member for how long the marriage lasts.

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Ael
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the boys who need to hear this: just because you dated with someone once, doesn't mean you owe them. They are not your slave. You are not to tell them who they love next. It's your best friend? It's your brother? It's your widowed FIL? NOT YOUR CALL. FFS. OP has feelings for that girl? Hell, no! If he *really* loved her, he'd be happy for her. It would have been hard in the beginning, but after 2 years? Boy needs to move on. In the same way his brother could have *informed* he's dating that girl, but brother doesn't need OP's permission either.

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Adeline Bennett
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What does this have to do with anything? They can do what they want but he does not OWE either of them his support.

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BoredMe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do yourself a favor, OP: Listen to the actual experts. Redditors don't have a good reputation in the online world for a reason.

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Sonnovab Kegeles
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am so tired of people (especially men) thinking they own the feelings of another. A girl/woman is NOT a possession that one brother (or best friend or or or) can call dibs on. WTF, did he pee on her to claim her? Just stop the lifelong bs. Love is love, whether you may have called dibs on her first. Yes, absolutely you ARE the a.h.

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madbakes
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not an issue of equality or dominance of the sexes. It's an issue of betrayal. Stop making it more than it is.

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Bone Dome Martin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

N.T.A.H.! Your brother IS a serious POS! And, I don't believe I can write what your EX is but it rhymes with runt! Not only did your brother willingly betray you and basically slapped you in the face. 2, he went behind your back and banged your EX. If he was your family, he would neeever would've violated that bond. You are completely in the right to make this decision. If your family decides to keep nagging you, shame your bro & his hoe for what they did and MAKE your family give justification. Otherwise, they'll, just contine THEIR A.H. behavior for supporting your twins behavior.

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Venice
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First comment I see that absolutely nailed this issue. Couldn't have said it better. If this was a friend he would cut ties immediately. Now he's stuck with this low life brother and woman who only cares about who can do her with no regard for feelings of others. He just needs to " get over it"...seriously! He doesn't have to live his life on others terms especially not his brothers. Kinda of a family does that to their own. Time for him to redefine the word " family" cause that ain't it.

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zak
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Setting aside the issue at hand, why tf do people get married at 21 (before their brain is even fully formed)? What's the rush?

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Rachel Ainsworth
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can you imagine when she started dating twin2? Oh Steve, oh Steve umm oops I forgot, oh Sam, oh Sam.

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and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ngl I think this is more weird than anything. Sounds like the plot of a s****y porno.

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Marno C.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go to the wedding and preserve the relationship with the rest of the family. Be aloof and dignified. There is no way OP would look like the weird one at this wedding. People will be looking at the couple and thinking, "She broke up with Identical Twin 1 and is now marrying Twin 2? WTF? And Twin 2 was good with that?" It does not feel like they are awash with good judgment. And they are only 21. Resist the urge to start a betting pool.

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B.Nelson
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can we just talk about how she is dating/getting married to the identical twin of her high school boyfriend? And the identical twin thought it was a great idea? That has some issues that might need resolving...

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Nikole
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, I’m surprised the groom didn’t realize he was pretty much a super convenient replacement.

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Sa Ruuu
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People really gotta stop dating friend's or family's exes.

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Ael
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People need to stop to see their ex as their personal belonging. If someone has 30 friends, does that mean his ex isn't allowed to date these 30 men? Just because he isn't man enough to grow up and handle the fact that she could prefer someone else?

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Ron Baza
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’d be interested to know how long it was before the family knew the twin brother was s****ing the ex-girlfriend. Either A/The twin brother knew it was sketchy, and kept it a secret from the family for 6 months; or B/The family knew and kept it quiet from the OP.

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S Mi
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While I think asking the twin to be best man is a bit much, the people noting that holding onto an old high-school relationship will make things difficult are onto something. I don't think they need to be best friends, but probably time for some kind of truce.

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Justin Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First is he didnt break up with the gf for lack of caring about her, but because neither thought long distance would work. Second is that his twin brother waited maybe 6 months before jumping into bed with her. And finally they did have a truce with op not having to go to events or anything with the ex. But the twin is now acting like he not only has to go, but stand next to him as he marries the woman he loved for 3+ years.

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R Dennis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am gonna say he gets a pass. BUT he needs to figure out how to get over it. They broke up, she dated someone else and is marrying them. Life happens and there is too much left of it at 21 (hopefully) to let this ruin his relationship with his family. He has a right to feel how he feels, but if he were more mature, he would do it.

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BlueEyesWhiteDragon
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is horrible for OP, but it's happening and will continue for as long as his brother is married to his ex. The brother should have been upfront about the relationship, but sometimes emotions get the better of people. But OP will have to get over it at some point if he wants to remain part of the family. Dating for two years in high school seems significant at 21, but it probably won't matter in ten years if OP doesn't ruminate on the "betrayal" and ruin his life thinking about it. OP and his ex don't have to be best friends, and OP doesn't have to be the best man, but now would be a good time to talk to his ex and try to find common ground. (Of course, it's also possible this is fake. This post is basically the plot of The Hating Game and To All the Boys I've Loved Before.)

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Alexa/echo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She waited two after they broke up to date his identical twin he is allowed to set boundaries especially with something that creepy

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Allen Packard
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok. It's gross that his brother pursued the relationship. It's gross that the girl pursued the relationship. It's gross that the family is ok with the relationship.

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Happy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not gross at all. The O P and ex girlfriend CHOSE to break up...at least according to OP. He needs to get over it and not have the"those were my toys..,i don't want to play with them but NOBODY ELSE can either" That's tough s**t.

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StevieLove
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Be a better person. It feels good in the long run. Be his best man, be happy for them. The time will come that you will be happy you did.

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David
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA in terms of choosing not to be "best man". But you ARE being petty and selfish (or at least immature) if you can't choose to civil around her in social gatherings. My ex wife did some really bad / hurtful things and I do not like or trust her but we cans till be civil to each other in social gatherings with mutual family. TLDR: You can set healthy boundaries without being a butt about it.

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Janet C
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get that he's upset and I understand why, but she's going to be part of the family. This is way bigger than just the wedding. Is OP never going to attend Christmas or Thanksgiving with extended family because ex will be there? Will he have nothing to do with nieces or nephews in the future? OP and his brother need to figure this out now.

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Mad McQueen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well when you left her she just couldn't leave "you" and got the carbon copy. Hope she wasn't doing all this to get back at you for leaving her. But maybe it was just something in his personality even though you are twins that she just likes more to marry him. You should go. He's a second rare version of you and I'm sure you can just be like oh well I dodged that bullet and wish them well. It's a night out and a meal with drinks and dancing. Plus you can bring a girl as a friend that looks nothing like her to show her she wasn't your type.

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Anne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Either one is being used. Either he swooped in to a mourning lady, or she is just mirroring her ex. But since she broke up with Twin 1.. I think something fishy is going on. Is the fam very rich perhaps?

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Shawnna Clement
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All of them are AHs in this case! GF and twin for breaking the "Rule of One". You can only date one from a group of friends or one in a family. No exceptions. OP is being a retaliatory AH about the wedding. Suck it up buttercup! He's going to be your brother for life and she'll at least be around awhile. I agree with others that 21 is too young to get married. I got married at 21 and divorced within 3 yrs. It was nothing more than realizing that we were different people than we were at 19. Our goals and aspirations changed into our adult versions.

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Bhadrika Love
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never heard of "rule of one." I went to a small college, and that rule would have been impossible. (Generally said if you tied a string between everyone who had ever been involved... no one could move.) instead we had a general understanding that exes might avoid each other for a while (so you'd let folks know who would be at an event), but no dividing up the friends between them, and no banning futures with anyone else in the group. As a result, I went to a wedding where there was a hilarious and cheerful photo line of the bride's ex boyfriends - all still friends (one of them my spouse), and a highly entertaining attempt to line up in chronological order.

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Moezzzz
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. This is kinda creepy to me. Dating the TWIN of your first "love"? Nope. Hell nah. NTA

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Venice
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Damn dude you really got a gut slicing by an ex hooking up with your brother 2 months after you broke up. With a brother who had zero respect for you by not letting you know he's dating this peach but blindsided you with a best man request. I'm surprised at " get over it" comments on here. Who the hell dies test to their sibling especially identical twins. Nobody in that family cares about your feelings. Your brother the least. Also did no one talk sense into his head when this dating started. How was it okay for them to watch this same girl jump from one brother to the next. Remember family is not only the ones you are born into, but also the ones YOU create. Dude they don't care about you but want you to toe the line. Dump em. NTA.

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The Starsong Princess
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. This was a high school girlfriend, not his wife. In some areas, the dating pool is small so if you avoid everyone your sibling dated, that leaves no one. There’s no cheating here or bad blood - it seems like he expected her to wait around for him in case he decided he still wanted her after he played the field. You can’t call “baggsies for life” on an actual person. If he chooses to die on this hill, his family is going to rightly side with his twin.

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Tyke
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a horrible situation but he needs to really think about this. Is he will to avoid all family gatherings and never be a part of his neice's/nephew's lives because of a two year teen romance? Best thing he can do (it's tough, but possible) is move on and meet someone else that he truly loves.

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Casey McAlister
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While I agree it's a bit weird for his ex to start dating his twin two months after their breakup, but why does it bother him now? He should have got over it a long time ago.

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Pursuing Peonies
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They broke up at 18, they're now 21....that's not a long time....for either getting used to the idea that your ex, who broke up with you, is now with your identical twin AND they're getting married. Honestly, she seems sus. She dated someone for years, broke up due to distance (fair), then almost immediately started dating their twin and are getting married so quickly? I get things change and a few years can be a big thing sometimes, but it's just .... suspicious.

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Yvonne Dauwalder Balsiger
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First of all, our feelings are our feelings and it's perfectly fine to have them but we can all be pragmatic about it, too. Even more first, don't get married at 21, wth? It actually seems it was a mutual decision to break up (not sure about this one, because he sure holds a real grudge against her years later) and she didn't cheat on him with his twin or did anything else despicable. So, he should be a bit more pragmatic about it - don't be the best man but go to the wedding, be polite and stop avoiding her on purpose. Statistics say, that marriage most likely won't last super long. PS: The woman sure is like "I find you unbelievable attractive, it's just your personality why it didn't work out". Ouch.

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Lily Mae Kitty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

#1-this marriage won't last. they are 21 years old and their brains are not done growing yet. #2-yeah it's weird they jumped in after 2 months but clearly they already knew one another. Maybe they caught feelings before your breakup. Who knows? No longer matters. #3 buck up. you dated someone as a freaking TEEN. Life goes on and she's going to be your sister in law. Play nice and don't be a di*k. #4- take a bet with another family member for how long the marriage lasts.

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Ael
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the boys who need to hear this: just because you dated with someone once, doesn't mean you owe them. They are not your slave. You are not to tell them who they love next. It's your best friend? It's your brother? It's your widowed FIL? NOT YOUR CALL. FFS. OP has feelings for that girl? Hell, no! If he *really* loved her, he'd be happy for her. It would have been hard in the beginning, but after 2 years? Boy needs to move on. In the same way his brother could have *informed* he's dating that girl, but brother doesn't need OP's permission either.

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Adeline Bennett
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What does this have to do with anything? They can do what they want but he does not OWE either of them his support.

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BoredMe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do yourself a favor, OP: Listen to the actual experts. Redditors don't have a good reputation in the online world for a reason.

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Sonnovab Kegeles
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am so tired of people (especially men) thinking they own the feelings of another. A girl/woman is NOT a possession that one brother (or best friend or or or) can call dibs on. WTF, did he pee on her to claim her? Just stop the lifelong bs. Love is love, whether you may have called dibs on her first. Yes, absolutely you ARE the a.h.

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madbakes
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not an issue of equality or dominance of the sexes. It's an issue of betrayal. Stop making it more than it is.

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Bone Dome Martin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

N.T.A.H.! Your brother IS a serious POS! And, I don't believe I can write what your EX is but it rhymes with runt! Not only did your brother willingly betray you and basically slapped you in the face. 2, he went behind your back and banged your EX. If he was your family, he would neeever would've violated that bond. You are completely in the right to make this decision. If your family decides to keep nagging you, shame your bro & his hoe for what they did and MAKE your family give justification. Otherwise, they'll, just contine THEIR A.H. behavior for supporting your twins behavior.

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Venice
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First comment I see that absolutely nailed this issue. Couldn't have said it better. If this was a friend he would cut ties immediately. Now he's stuck with this low life brother and woman who only cares about who can do her with no regard for feelings of others. He just needs to " get over it"...seriously! He doesn't have to live his life on others terms especially not his brothers. Kinda of a family does that to their own. Time for him to redefine the word " family" cause that ain't it.

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