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Anti-Vax Mom Turns To Social Media Meltdown After Family Rejects Her Baby For Safety’s Sake
As the world fought the devastating war against Covid-19 a few years ago, another battle was fast heating up. In one corner, those who were willing to get the jab. On the opposite side, pockets of anti-vaxxer resistance, and some “Covidiots.” Soon, false health information was flooding social media, disguised as deep “research.” To this day, there are still friends and family who, after finding themselves on polarizing ends of the vaccine debate, are no longer on speaking terms.
While the Covid pandemic is, quite thankfully, now behind us, the Great Vaccine Debate still rears its ugly head time and again. One woman has shared how a years-long friendship is at stake because her pregnant anti-vaxxer friend refuses to believe in modern medicine. The woman is wondering whether she’s justified in banning her friend’s baby from seeing her own kid. And netizens are not holding back with their responses.
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Health experts recommend children get their first vaccinations at birth, and follow a routine immunization schedule as they grow up
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But one pregnant woman is refusing to abide by this, and she’s getting a big dose of consequences from friends and family
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There are vaccines to prevent more than 30 life-threatening diseases and infections, and here’s how they work…
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Immunization prevents 3.5 million to 5 million deaths every year from diseases like diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), influenza, and measles. That’s according to the World Health Organization (WHO). Nowadays, we have vaccines to prevent more than 30 life-threatening diseases and infections.
The organization explains vaccination as a simple, safe, and effective way of protecting you against harmful diseases before you come into contact with them. Vaccines use your body’s natural defenses to build resistance to specific infections, making your immune system stronger.
“Vaccines train your immune system to create antibodies, just as it does when it’s exposed to a disease,” reads the WHO site. “However, because vaccines contain only k****d or weakened forms of germs like viruses or bacteria, they do not cause the disease or put you at risk of its complications.”
Most vaccines are administered via injection. And here’s what happens when you get “the jab”:
Your immune system kicks into gear, and responds by recognizing that an enemy, or invading germ, has entered your body. It then begins producing antibodies to fight the virus or bacteria. Antibodies are proteins produced naturally by the immune system to fight disease, explains WHO.
Your immune system also remembers the disease and how to fight it. “If you are then exposed to the germ in the future, your immune system can quickly destroy it before you become unwell,” reads the World Health Organization site, adding that vaccine are therefore a safe and clever way to produce an immune response in the body, without causing illness.
WHO goes on to explain that our immune systems are designed to remember. “Once exposed to one or more doses of a vaccine, we typically remain protected against a disease for years, decades or even a lifetime. This is what makes vaccines so effective. Rather than treating a disease after it occurs, vaccines prevent us in the first instance from getting sick.”
The Covid pandemic created not only a wave of illness but also a flood of false information
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Many people, their aunties, and the guy next door suddenly became “medical experts” who had done their own “research” on Covid-19 and vaccines. They felt they were better equipped than qualified scientists, and merrily dished out advice. Some knocked the vaccine. Others went as far as to say that Covid does not exist.
False information comes in different forms. Sometimes, unintentional mistakes lead to what’s known as misinformation. Or, being misinformed. On the more sinister end of the spectrum is disinformation: false or inaccurate information designed to deceive. Then there’s malinformation, which is information designed to harm.
“The majority of vaccine-related inaccurate information falls into the disinformation category,” notes Voices For Vaccines. “Typical types of disinformation include misrepresenting or purposefully misinterpreting scientific publications, making false claims that are backed by pseudo-science and non-credible sources or individuals.”
Those sowing disinformation are aware they’re creating inaccurate or false information. But many of those who share or spread it are under the impression that it’s true. “This is how disinformation spreads,” explains the Voices For Vaccines site. “The information is written or packaged to look credible, so unsuspecting people believe it to be true and share it. Their friends share it and so on. Unfortunately, the more times people hear something, the truer it seems even if the facts don’t add up.”
“Facts trump opinions”: many people felt the pregnant woman was being irresponsible
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ElfVibratorGlitter 9 months ago
So I'm really early in my pregnancy but I'm on some message boards and holy héll. So many woman asking strangers opinions on whether they should vaccinate. unless your baby is born with some illness that precludes it from getting immunizations...YES YOU SHOULD VACCINATE YOUR CHILDREN!
V 9 months ago
Honestly I am usually all for free will and stuff. But it's getting to the point with regular childhood vaccines where I just think they should be legally mandatory for every child (except those with actual medical reasons to not have them). No religious, moral or cultural reasons allowed. Jail time and children taken away from parents who refuse. So their kids get them anyway. Or at the very least parents who refuse to vaccinate their children should be held criminally responsible if their children end up in hospital or dead from preventable illnesses.
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Michael MacKinnon 9 months ago
Mild tweak: George Washington required his troops to get vaccinated for smallpox, not flu.
Bryn 9 months ago
oh thank you for that, I was soooo confused! I'm a historian but that's not my area so I was really confused
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Uncommon Boston 9 months ago
My son was exposed to whooping cough and HIB. Even though he was vaccinated, he got both badly. My doctor reminded me, HE DIDN'T DIE. Children have died from these diseases. The vaccine saved his life. One terrible year I got the flu even though i always get a flu shot. I complained to my doctor. He said the flu was deadly that year and starting listing the number of people who died of the flu at local hospitals. Many were healthy to begin with.
Astrid 9 months ago
I had whooping cough as a kid and was vaccinated. It was a traumatic experience I still remember 43 years later, stamping my feet on the floor whenever I coughed. just to cope with the pain. Without the vaccine I dread to think how it might have been.
Load More Replies... Libstak 9 months ago
So her d.rug dealer BF is her go to for expert advice on life saving or life ending medicines because "he thoroughly researched online". Has he researched the mortality rate on illegal narcotics before he lined his pockets with the money he made putting others lives at risk? You can't play expert and claim a moral high ground when you are literally playing with people's lives every day to make a dollar outside what the law allows to keep people safe.
PeTeH 9 months ago
Antivaxxers love their beliefs more than the health and safety of the people around them, including their children.
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Lee Gilliland 9 months ago
I had my kid long before vaccines became a debate. Therefore, grew up in a society where there were still those who hadn't been vaccinated, and trust me, there were a LOT of deaf people because of measles. Please vaccinate your kids.
Vinnie 9 months ago
Some people reason that the odds of surviving a disease are pretty good, therefore the vaccine isn't needed. Thank you for pointing out that there can still be long-term consequences.
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CP 9 months ago (edited)
Kids are not property. They should be vaccinated whether or not the parent wants it. If a parent doesn't provide food and shelter for the kid they are a bad parent the same way as not vaccinating. This BS needs to be stomped out. The worst part us they can pass their stupidity to their children.
Shannon Donnelly 9 months ago
Unfortunately, stupidity does not have a vaccination yet.
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Corvus 9 months ago
For anyone who is scared of autism, you need to know just one thing - based on what we know so far, autism develops in the womb, before birth. Vaccinations happen after birth... so unless a vaccine somehow has the ability to travel back in time, there is no way it could possibly cause autism or anything related.
Vinnie 9 months ago
For folks who think no one had autism before vaccines existed: folks with autism existed. Some were institutionalized; some were known as the local eccentric.
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Robert Beveridge 9 months ago
"the díldo of consequences rarely arrives lubed" is absolutely going into regular rotation at goat central.
Beak Hookage 9 months ago
The guy who sells dangerous illicit substances is suddenly an expert on what you should be putting into your body? Good lord.
Petra brown 9 months ago
My sister, a pediatrician has absolutely no patiebce with anti-vaxxers. I once asked ger what she tells them if it is really necessary to vaccinate because of google research they have done ... She said I tell them that they absolutely do not need to vaccinate all of their kids - only the ones they would like to keep.
Mabelbabel 9 months ago
I'm sure your sister has faced that ridiculous argument that doctors only spend an hour learning about vaccinations. Before we spend that hour looking up the current schedules, we've spent 4 years learning about the anatomy and physiology of the immune system, learning about immunology and immunideficiency conditions, haematology and the various types and function of blood cells, the pathology of immunological disease and immune system tumours, allergy and anaphylaxis, different types of immune system responses, therapeutics and pharmacology relating to medications used, polypharmacy reactions, clinical management of infectious diseases of bacterial, viral, fungal and parasitic infections. Thousands of hours studying over several years, even more if you specialise in paediatrics. And yet the "only one hour on vaccines" and "read the inserts" nonsense still persists.
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Quinn Goforth 9 months ago
My in laws refused to get covid vax, and were so incredibly salty about being *forced* to do so. Cousin just had twins with complications and they wanted to visit the hospital...
BrunoVI 9 months ago
Wait... the anti-vax friend's husband's a d**g dealer and the problem in this relationship is vaccines??? I want to be clear that IN GENERAL I strongly support vaccination, and suspect the friend is an idiot. But if THAT's what finally drives her away from letting her kids play with a d**g dealer's kids, she's got pretty strange priorities.
KatSaidWhat 9 months ago
This is bugging me more than it should. I would be tempted to report this post to authorities, because vaccines aside, these kids are being raised by a d**g dealer who is endangering them in more than one way.
brittany 9 months ago
my MIL is, not really completely anti vax but she thinks there should be longer wait times between vaccines and that some vaccines arent needed at all. their father thinks the same way. fortunately i am in charge of their medical care and my kids have received all their vaccines when they are supposed to per their doctor and are up to date on everything
KatSaidWhat 9 months ago
Lol at d**g dealing dr google. By all means, run to social media, it rarely goes well.
Earonn - 9 months ago
These people don't do it for the "best for their child". If they wanted that, they would accept the possibility that they themselves are wrong. They use their child as a knock-out argument so nobody can question their decision. The truth is, the only thing they care about is their own ego. And unfortunately, as we have seen, parents are too easily willing to let their children die for their own egos.
marcelo D. 9 months ago
the best and smartest comment was "will her bf deliver the baby since she doesn't trust doctors"
Tabitha 9 months ago
BF is a d**g dealer who doesn’t want ANY authority figure in his life who might find/figure out what he does for a living and send his a*s to jail. Period.
Load More Replies... Robin Roper 9 months ago
A fool and her children are soon parted will become far more true than necessary.
Kat Alison 9 months ago
Good. Anti-vaxxers should be shunned and ostracized. And if somehow they manage to infect me or somebody I love…I will make their life a living hell.
Rimjabbathehutt 4 months ago
Vaccines cause autism. The only country that hasn't admitted this is the US.
Joan CR 5 months ago
The idiocy surrounding anti-vaxxers is mind blowing. I laugh at those who do their 'research 'on google. While google 'research' is fine for deciding which car is the safest, but these are the people who totally reject medical experts for 'Joe next door's opinion'. During COVID, friends and I would sit outdoors spaced quite a bit away and wearing masks. A new friend joined and said she didn't believe in vaccines. We also had a friend with cancer, who has since died, liked to join us in her last year of life. I blew up at this anti-vaxxer and told her straight up that she was no longer allowed to join our small group. I still refuse to have any thing to do with her.
Sheena Leversedge Wood 9 months ago
so, Dads a dealer, and happy to make money off putting known to be harmful substances into peoples bodies, but not willing to have the baby vaccinated despite huge evidence of the benefits. much like someone I know that threw out a lot of his not well off girlfriends food when he moved himself in, because of the "chemicals" in them, but would happily take a pill he found on a pub toilet floor.
Lace Neil 9 months ago
I had rubella at two years old and chicken pox immediately after. The mmr vaccine didn't exist back then, neither did the chicken pox vaccine. I nearly died. This is why I think anti vaxxers are idiots, cuz babies and toddlers are incredibly vulnerable and catching diseases like rubella or measles will either k**l them or damage them for life. If you walk around a graveyard, you will often see whole families who were wiped out by diseases like measles.
Crystalwitch60 9 months ago
I was born in 1965 , n back then well here in uk anyways all the jabs that are now in the mmr , were single jabs all live vaccines, I had them all n each one made me more ill than had I not had them , two even nearly killed me , but that said my gran I grew up with was the matron of a hospital, and she was very strong on vaccines , when it came to my two kids now 21-24 having their mmrs I was worried sick that they would have same response to them , but I still had them done I just monitored them very closely for three days after each one , like not even sleeping , but in no way shape or form was I NOT HAVING THEM DONE , anti vaxers are down right dangerous lunatics !! as for her husband wow trump supporter I assume ! Brainwashed highly dangerous lunatic , op NTA , it’s not worth the risk ,
Parmeisan 9 months ago
For those who "asked if I'm admitting that vaccines don't work": Soooo you couldn't be bothered to do the 30 minutes of research that would be required to understand what vaccines are and aren't supposed to do, yet you think you've done enough research to know more than any doctor about their effectiveness?
Mark Childers 9 months ago
My sister and I both got chicken pox as kids. This was before a vaccine was available. Luckily, I caught it first when we were pretty young (severity gets worse the older you contract it, generally), and my case was really mild (but very itchy). My sister caught it from me, and she was sicker than I was, but we were both fine. I had the measles vaccine, but on a later exam, they realized that I had it too young and needed another one after 3 years old. So, I had two vaccinations, yet still managed to get measles. My only symptom was a fever (and I never ran a fever, even when I was pretty sick), so my mother took me to the doctor. He diagnosed it by the white spots on my inner cheeks. I was sick for a few days, and then I was fine. My older cousin had measles, and it affected her sight. Her prescription isn't to the degree that she's legally blind, but she can't see without her glasses, at all.
Kate Johnson 9 months ago
Vaccines are a life saver. No medication is without complications. I don't take my advice about medical issues from those that get their information from quacks on YouTube. In this case I wouldn't trust this friends judgement in general.
LakotaWolf (she/her) 9 months ago
She's not motivated to do what's best for her child. If she were, she would get it vaccinated so that it doesn't die of measles, mumps, whooping cough, polio, or any of the other fun childhood diseases that are re-emerging because of nutbag parents like her. She cares more about her BELIEFS and FEELINGS than her child's health and life. Can she make her own decisions about her own child? Yes, of course. But don't try and say she's motivated to "do the best" for her child, because she isn't.
Load More Replies... ElfVibratorGlitter 9 months ago
So I'm really early in my pregnancy but I'm on some message boards and holy héll. So many woman asking strangers opinions on whether they should vaccinate. unless your baby is born with some illness that precludes it from getting immunizations...YES YOU SHOULD VACCINATE YOUR CHILDREN!
V 9 months ago
Honestly I am usually all for free will and stuff. But it's getting to the point with regular childhood vaccines where I just think they should be legally mandatory for every child (except those with actual medical reasons to not have them). No religious, moral or cultural reasons allowed. Jail time and children taken away from parents who refuse. So their kids get them anyway. Or at the very least parents who refuse to vaccinate their children should be held criminally responsible if their children end up in hospital or dead from preventable illnesses.
Load More Replies... Michael MacKinnon 9 months ago
Mild tweak: George Washington required his troops to get vaccinated for smallpox, not flu.
Bryn 9 months ago
oh thank you for that, I was soooo confused! I'm a historian but that's not my area so I was really confused
Load More Replies... Uncommon Boston 9 months ago
My son was exposed to whooping cough and HIB. Even though he was vaccinated, he got both badly. My doctor reminded me, HE DIDN'T DIE. Children have died from these diseases. The vaccine saved his life. One terrible year I got the flu even though i always get a flu shot. I complained to my doctor. He said the flu was deadly that year and starting listing the number of people who died of the flu at local hospitals. Many were healthy to begin with.
Astrid 9 months ago
I had whooping cough as a kid and was vaccinated. It was a traumatic experience I still remember 43 years later, stamping my feet on the floor whenever I coughed. just to cope with the pain. Without the vaccine I dread to think how it might have been.
Load More Replies... Libstak 9 months ago
So her d.rug dealer BF is her go to for expert advice on life saving or life ending medicines because "he thoroughly researched online". Has he researched the mortality rate on illegal narcotics before he lined his pockets with the money he made putting others lives at risk? You can't play expert and claim a moral high ground when you are literally playing with people's lives every day to make a dollar outside what the law allows to keep people safe.
PeTeH 9 months ago
Antivaxxers love their beliefs more than the health and safety of the people around them, including their children.
Load More Replies... Lee Gilliland 9 months ago
I had my kid long before vaccines became a debate. Therefore, grew up in a society where there were still those who hadn't been vaccinated, and trust me, there were a LOT of deaf people because of measles. Please vaccinate your kids.
Vinnie 9 months ago
Some people reason that the odds of surviving a disease are pretty good, therefore the vaccine isn't needed. Thank you for pointing out that there can still be long-term consequences.
Load More Replies... CP 9 months ago (edited)
Kids are not property. They should be vaccinated whether or not the parent wants it. If a parent doesn't provide food and shelter for the kid they are a bad parent the same way as not vaccinating. This BS needs to be stomped out. The worst part us they can pass their stupidity to their children.
Shannon Donnelly 9 months ago
Unfortunately, stupidity does not have a vaccination yet.
Load More Replies... Corvus 9 months ago
For anyone who is scared of autism, you need to know just one thing - based on what we know so far, autism develops in the womb, before birth. Vaccinations happen after birth... so unless a vaccine somehow has the ability to travel back in time, there is no way it could possibly cause autism or anything related.
Vinnie 9 months ago
For folks who think no one had autism before vaccines existed: folks with autism existed. Some were institutionalized; some were known as the local eccentric.
Load More Replies... Robert Beveridge 9 months ago
"the díldo of consequences rarely arrives lubed" is absolutely going into regular rotation at goat central.
Beak Hookage 9 months ago
The guy who sells dangerous illicit substances is suddenly an expert on what you should be putting into your body? Good lord.
Petra brown 9 months ago
My sister, a pediatrician has absolutely no patiebce with anti-vaxxers. I once asked ger what she tells them if it is really necessary to vaccinate because of google research they have done ... She said I tell them that they absolutely do not need to vaccinate all of their kids - only the ones they would like to keep.
Mabelbabel 9 months ago
I'm sure your sister has faced that ridiculous argument that doctors only spend an hour learning about vaccinations. Before we spend that hour looking up the current schedules, we've spent 4 years learning about the anatomy and physiology of the immune system, learning about immunology and immunideficiency conditions, haematology and the various types and function of blood cells, the pathology of immunological disease and immune system tumours, allergy and anaphylaxis, different types of immune system responses, therapeutics and pharmacology relating to medications used, polypharmacy reactions, clinical management of infectious diseases of bacterial, viral, fungal and parasitic infections. Thousands of hours studying over several years, even more if you specialise in paediatrics. And yet the "only one hour on vaccines" and "read the inserts" nonsense still persists.
Load More Replies... Quinn Goforth 9 months ago
My in laws refused to get covid vax, and were so incredibly salty about being *forced* to do so. Cousin just had twins with complications and they wanted to visit the hospital...
BrunoVI 9 months ago
Wait... the anti-vax friend's husband's a d**g dealer and the problem in this relationship is vaccines??? I want to be clear that IN GENERAL I strongly support vaccination, and suspect the friend is an idiot. But if THAT's what finally drives her away from letting her kids play with a d**g dealer's kids, she's got pretty strange priorities.
KatSaidWhat 9 months ago
This is bugging me more than it should. I would be tempted to report this post to authorities, because vaccines aside, these kids are being raised by a d**g dealer who is endangering them in more than one way.
brittany 9 months ago
my MIL is, not really completely anti vax but she thinks there should be longer wait times between vaccines and that some vaccines arent needed at all. their father thinks the same way. fortunately i am in charge of their medical care and my kids have received all their vaccines when they are supposed to per their doctor and are up to date on everything
KatSaidWhat 9 months ago
Lol at d**g dealing dr google. By all means, run to social media, it rarely goes well.
Earonn - 9 months ago
These people don't do it for the "best for their child". If they wanted that, they would accept the possibility that they themselves are wrong. They use their child as a knock-out argument so nobody can question their decision. The truth is, the only thing they care about is their own ego. And unfortunately, as we have seen, parents are too easily willing to let their children die for their own egos.
marcelo D. 9 months ago
the best and smartest comment was "will her bf deliver the baby since she doesn't trust doctors"
Tabitha 9 months ago
BF is a d**g dealer who doesn’t want ANY authority figure in his life who might find/figure out what he does for a living and send his a*s to jail. Period.
Load More Replies... Robin Roper 9 months ago
A fool and her children are soon parted will become far more true than necessary.
Kat Alison 9 months ago
Good. Anti-vaxxers should be shunned and ostracized. And if somehow they manage to infect me or somebody I love…I will make their life a living hell.
Rimjabbathehutt 4 months ago
Vaccines cause autism. The only country that hasn't admitted this is the US.
Joan CR 5 months ago
The idiocy surrounding anti-vaxxers is mind blowing. I laugh at those who do their 'research 'on google. While google 'research' is fine for deciding which car is the safest, but these are the people who totally reject medical experts for 'Joe next door's opinion'. During COVID, friends and I would sit outdoors spaced quite a bit away and wearing masks. A new friend joined and said she didn't believe in vaccines. We also had a friend with cancer, who has since died, liked to join us in her last year of life. I blew up at this anti-vaxxer and told her straight up that she was no longer allowed to join our small group. I still refuse to have any thing to do with her.
Sheena Leversedge Wood 9 months ago
so, Dads a dealer, and happy to make money off putting known to be harmful substances into peoples bodies, but not willing to have the baby vaccinated despite huge evidence of the benefits. much like someone I know that threw out a lot of his not well off girlfriends food when he moved himself in, because of the "chemicals" in them, but would happily take a pill he found on a pub toilet floor.
Lace Neil 9 months ago
I had rubella at two years old and chicken pox immediately after. The mmr vaccine didn't exist back then, neither did the chicken pox vaccine. I nearly died. This is why I think anti vaxxers are idiots, cuz babies and toddlers are incredibly vulnerable and catching diseases like rubella or measles will either k**l them or damage them for life. If you walk around a graveyard, you will often see whole families who were wiped out by diseases like measles.
Crystalwitch60 9 months ago
I was born in 1965 , n back then well here in uk anyways all the jabs that are now in the mmr , were single jabs all live vaccines, I had them all n each one made me more ill than had I not had them , two even nearly killed me , but that said my gran I grew up with was the matron of a hospital, and she was very strong on vaccines , when it came to my two kids now 21-24 having their mmrs I was worried sick that they would have same response to them , but I still had them done I just monitored them very closely for three days after each one , like not even sleeping , but in no way shape or form was I NOT HAVING THEM DONE , anti vaxers are down right dangerous lunatics !! as for her husband wow trump supporter I assume ! Brainwashed highly dangerous lunatic , op NTA , it’s not worth the risk ,
Parmeisan 9 months ago
For those who "asked if I'm admitting that vaccines don't work": Soooo you couldn't be bothered to do the 30 minutes of research that would be required to understand what vaccines are and aren't supposed to do, yet you think you've done enough research to know more than any doctor about their effectiveness?
Mark Childers 9 months ago
My sister and I both got chicken pox as kids. This was before a vaccine was available. Luckily, I caught it first when we were pretty young (severity gets worse the older you contract it, generally), and my case was really mild (but very itchy). My sister caught it from me, and she was sicker than I was, but we were both fine. I had the measles vaccine, but on a later exam, they realized that I had it too young and needed another one after 3 years old. So, I had two vaccinations, yet still managed to get measles. My only symptom was a fever (and I never ran a fever, even when I was pretty sick), so my mother took me to the doctor. He diagnosed it by the white spots on my inner cheeks. I was sick for a few days, and then I was fine. My older cousin had measles, and it affected her sight. Her prescription isn't to the degree that she's legally blind, but she can't see without her glasses, at all.
Kate Johnson 9 months ago
Vaccines are a life saver. No medication is without complications. I don't take my advice about medical issues from those that get their information from quacks on YouTube. In this case I wouldn't trust this friends judgement in general.
LakotaWolf (she/her) 9 months ago
She's not motivated to do what's best for her child. If she were, she would get it vaccinated so that it doesn't die of measles, mumps, whooping cough, polio, or any of the other fun childhood diseases that are re-emerging because of nutbag parents like her. She cares more about her BELIEFS and FEELINGS than her child's health and life. Can she make her own decisions about her own child? Yes, of course. But don't try and say she's motivated to "do the best" for her child, because she isn't.
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