Mom Posts ‘Angry As Hell’ Rant After Her 15-Day-Old Son Gets Exposed To Measles Due To Anti-Vaxxers
Lately, anti-vaxxers have been getting a lot of negative attention online. And, according to Jennifer Hibben-White, they deserve it. Some time ago, she received a call from her local health center, informing her that her baby boy was exposed to measles.
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At the time, her son Griffin was only 15-days old and too young to have been vaccinated. Children usually get their first measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) shot when they’re somewhere between 12 to 15 months of age. Until then, they have to rely on the so-called herd immunity, an indirect protection from infectious disease that occurs when a large percentage of a population has become immune to an infection, thereby providing a measure of protection for individuals who are not immune. Devastated and furious, Jennifer wrote a powerful Facebook post, and people quickly rallied to her support. Scroll down to read her message which has been shared over 604K times, and let us your thoughts on it in the comments.
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Luckily, after not showing symptoms of the virus during the incubation period, Griffin was declared healthy.
People had a lot to say about this difficult situation
This how I believe the government and society should handle the antivac situation. You have the right to not vaccinate. That's cool. But if you choose to exercise this right you lose the ability to access all social systems. No school, no hospital, no well fair, no food stamps, no right to mount a defense in the court system, no tax return, no access to local government infrastructure, no parks, no license, no access to roads, no 911 services. No access to any local government, State or federal government subsidizes aspect of our wourld. You should be issued a phone that can only call the CDC so when you decide you can't live like that you call them , they come out and give all your shots. And only after they concluded you aren't carrying and illness that could spread to the public, THEN and only then do you get to join the real world.
back in the days when vaccines were seen as miracle drugs, no child who wasn't vaccinated could attend school or go to public places. We WILL need to get back there as this continues, the anti vaxxers and others like them have gone backwards Complacency is what happened as we were free from childhood communicable diseases. I began my nursing career in the 1950s, I saw what those diseases did to children and don't want to think of it happening again.
My mom became a nurse in the '50s and has told me horror stories of people she administered to who were in iron lungs from caching Polio. None of these idiots know their history of public places being shut down due to epidemics like Polio et. al. Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to relive it!!!!!
Not all drunk drivers kill people, but they are more likely to do so. Drunk driving is illegal, regardless of what you believe. How is this different? Not all unvaccinated children spread illnesses, but they are more likely to.
This needs to happen, EVERYWHERE! The WHOLE WORLD needs to get behind this! Anti-Vaxxers need to be treated like the outsiders they are. They should be segregated & not allowed any "free" (I'm Canadian) medical care, they should have to pay for it. I also believe that they should be treated as child abusers, because it is not THEM that suffers, its their children. I guarantee you the Anti-Vaxxers are themselves vaccinated, its THEIR CHILDREN that are not, and they aren't old enough to understand or to speak for themselves. This should be written into LAW that vaccinations are REQUIRED to live with the rest of civilization.
Why not just require them to vaccinate?
Why hide their identity? You decide not to vaccinate, you are an idiot. Someone else suffers because of your decision, you are a criminal. Like the names of all accused criminals, your name should make headlines!
Maybe make them liable for lawsuits if someone else gets sick?
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Noooooo, nobody would take people's children away. Forced quarantine is more likely. This feeds into hysteria.
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I could just see cops or soldiers invading people's homes & taking their kids or holding them down to give them vaccinations. Not good for the kids either.
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It's changing. Many school districts won't let kids in the door if they aren't vaccinated, and all of the antivax parents with their phoney "religious" exemptions are being told that the only way they don't get to vaccinate is if the kid is a cancer patient or has a compromised immune system. Where I live, that takes two doctors to sign off.
Aunt Messy not vaccinating is not equivilent to child abuse and that is really insulting to people who have been abused.
You're right, "legally" child abuse is when you're abusing your own child. This is more akin to grabbing someones baby and football punting that poor SoaB 20 feet
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All this (well, except the phone thing which isn't really do-able) but also if you choose not to vaccinate your child. Whichever parent or parents have the ability to make that choice would also bear the consequences for that choice. (Nia: Because that would be a dangerous precedent for the type and level of power of a government over your body. You probably don't want someone to tie you down and make you give you blood every 2-3 months, even though that is good for society and (most likely) not harmful to you. I know, vaccines are different, antivaxxers are *actively* harming us all. Still, I think there's a line.)
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Choosing not to vaccinate is child abuse and should carry all of the legal consequences that child abuse has. Any child that dies (ANY, not just theirs) as a result of their choice to abuse them should be considered murder.
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This is stupid. You shouldn't lose all your rights just because you don't want the government to force-poison you or your children.
It wasn't, it is the same as why criminals are quarantined. They endangers people around them, and you know what? By being un-vaxx you not only endangering yourself to the disease, you are potentially spreading it to people around you.
The thing is if you want to live in a civil, vaccinated, disease resistant populous you damn well ought to contribute to said populous if able. Otherwise fuck off to the woods or someshit.
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That’s dumb though and doesn’t help anything. Those unvaccinated people can still walk into a crowd and make everyone sick. Only difference is that you created a new set of problems: now we have to keep track of all these people, have a special task force dedicated to taking away any benefits they use, create these special unhackable phones that only dial out to CDC, give them said special phones, and provide them with personal on the spot vaccine access. Which a fuckload of people will abuse probably. You think antivaxers deserve all that? Ok.
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You're an idiot, basically you're describing a communist country where the government tells the people what they can and can't have, thank God we don't live in a world like you're describing.
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Not only that, but he's describing a country where the government can compel you to put something inside your own child's body. Vaccines are a good thing on the whole (obviously) but go fuck yourself if you think it's right to force other people to put something in their children against their will.
I have my certification in holistic medicine. And even I think every child should be vaccinated
Thank you for that
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Certification in holistic medicine lol.
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@Joan - Bravo to the pro-vaccine part, and I'm calling bullshit on the "holistic" bit. "Alternative" medicine that WORKS is called "medicine".
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Aunt Messy, I´d give you a hundred up-votes if I could. I don´t even understand how they can use those two words in the same sentence. I lost a friend who went to a center with a so called ¨holistic¨approach in order to avoit the " horribly toxic" chemo therapies after a mastectomy for cancer. After spending a small fortune there, she had just two short weeeks with her daughter before she passed away. In my mind, that is equal to murder - for profit!
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What medical school did you go to? At what university? I thought so.
to whom are you referring? I hope not to the person certified in holistic medicine..because she's PRO-vaccine. or did you stop at "..holistic medicine." ??
Institute of Integrative Nutrition. Some of you need a hug or get laid.
Why isn't this manslaughter? Do anti vaxxers not realize that their child can potentially kill another child? This is ridiculous. Vaccinate your kids! I have a mild form of autism, but am college educated, work full time, am independent, and guess what...I'm vaccinated!
People go to jail over Knowingly spreading HIV, why not extend that to parents that knowingly endanger other children with diseases the human race has developed a defense to. Also for those fucks that think Autistic kids are a symptom, I think they are a cure to the drama human condition. Have you hung out with those human calculators. Their only issue is dealing with emotions. I could use more of that shit. Fuck emotions.
You must be a Vulcan, BTW that's a compliment :)
I work with autistic kids. The most frustrating part of my job is changing the parent's outlook. Their child is a perfectly normal child who just happens to be autistic. There is nothing WRONG with him. Stop acting like he has a disease and stop trying to "cure" him! Think of it as a feature. i.e. tall, athletic, blond. Features are not flaws. I say, "He has autism" the same way I say, "He has blue eyes". Does he have unique challenges in life? Yes. Does he interact with the world differently? Yes. Is he an individual with ideas of his own, who should be respected and accepted for who he is? Definitely!
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Also, autistic ppl probably are the only group where nobody is stupid enough not to vaccinate.
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Right now, the anti-vaxxers have decided to tell everyone that measles prevents cancer.
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Manslaughter? Yeah, that's the world I want to live in, one where it's manslaughter to show symptoms of an illness well after being in the same room as a tiny human. You are just chock full of righteous indignation, eh? You literally advocate that this person go to jail for manslaughter for contracting measles? You are a hateful, spiteful person.
no, just if they do not vaccinate their kids.
This how I believe the government and society should handle the antivac situation. You have the right to not vaccinate. That's cool. But if you choose to exercise this right you lose the ability to access all social systems. No school, no hospital, no well fair, no food stamps, no right to mount a defense in the court system, no tax return, no access to local government infrastructure, no parks, no license, no access to roads, no 911 services. No access to any local government, State or federal government subsidizes aspect of our wourld. You should be issued a phone that can only call the CDC so when you decide you can't live like that you call them , they come out and give all your shots. And only after they concluded you aren't carrying and illness that could spread to the public, THEN and only then do you get to join the real world.
back in the days when vaccines were seen as miracle drugs, no child who wasn't vaccinated could attend school or go to public places. We WILL need to get back there as this continues, the anti vaxxers and others like them have gone backwards Complacency is what happened as we were free from childhood communicable diseases. I began my nursing career in the 1950s, I saw what those diseases did to children and don't want to think of it happening again.
My mom became a nurse in the '50s and has told me horror stories of people she administered to who were in iron lungs from caching Polio. None of these idiots know their history of public places being shut down due to epidemics like Polio et. al. Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to relive it!!!!!
Not all drunk drivers kill people, but they are more likely to do so. Drunk driving is illegal, regardless of what you believe. How is this different? Not all unvaccinated children spread illnesses, but they are more likely to.
This needs to happen, EVERYWHERE! The WHOLE WORLD needs to get behind this! Anti-Vaxxers need to be treated like the outsiders they are. They should be segregated & not allowed any "free" (I'm Canadian) medical care, they should have to pay for it. I also believe that they should be treated as child abusers, because it is not THEM that suffers, its their children. I guarantee you the Anti-Vaxxers are themselves vaccinated, its THEIR CHILDREN that are not, and they aren't old enough to understand or to speak for themselves. This should be written into LAW that vaccinations are REQUIRED to live with the rest of civilization.
Why not just require them to vaccinate?
Why hide their identity? You decide not to vaccinate, you are an idiot. Someone else suffers because of your decision, you are a criminal. Like the names of all accused criminals, your name should make headlines!
Maybe make them liable for lawsuits if someone else gets sick?
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Noooooo, nobody would take people's children away. Forced quarantine is more likely. This feeds into hysteria.
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I could just see cops or soldiers invading people's homes & taking their kids or holding them down to give them vaccinations. Not good for the kids either.
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It's changing. Many school districts won't let kids in the door if they aren't vaccinated, and all of the antivax parents with their phoney "religious" exemptions are being told that the only way they don't get to vaccinate is if the kid is a cancer patient or has a compromised immune system. Where I live, that takes two doctors to sign off.
Aunt Messy not vaccinating is not equivilent to child abuse and that is really insulting to people who have been abused.
You're right, "legally" child abuse is when you're abusing your own child. This is more akin to grabbing someones baby and football punting that poor SoaB 20 feet
👏👏👏
All this (well, except the phone thing which isn't really do-able) but also if you choose not to vaccinate your child. Whichever parent or parents have the ability to make that choice would also bear the consequences for that choice. (Nia: Because that would be a dangerous precedent for the type and level of power of a government over your body. You probably don't want someone to tie you down and make you give you blood every 2-3 months, even though that is good for society and (most likely) not harmful to you. I know, vaccines are different, antivaxxers are *actively* harming us all. Still, I think there's a line.)
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Choosing not to vaccinate is child abuse and should carry all of the legal consequences that child abuse has. Any child that dies (ANY, not just theirs) as a result of their choice to abuse them should be considered murder.
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This is stupid. You shouldn't lose all your rights just because you don't want the government to force-poison you or your children.
It wasn't, it is the same as why criminals are quarantined. They endangers people around them, and you know what? By being un-vaxx you not only endangering yourself to the disease, you are potentially spreading it to people around you.
The thing is if you want to live in a civil, vaccinated, disease resistant populous you damn well ought to contribute to said populous if able. Otherwise fuck off to the woods or someshit.
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That’s dumb though and doesn’t help anything. Those unvaccinated people can still walk into a crowd and make everyone sick. Only difference is that you created a new set of problems: now we have to keep track of all these people, have a special task force dedicated to taking away any benefits they use, create these special unhackable phones that only dial out to CDC, give them said special phones, and provide them with personal on the spot vaccine access. Which a fuckload of people will abuse probably. You think antivaxers deserve all that? Ok.
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You're an idiot, basically you're describing a communist country where the government tells the people what they can and can't have, thank God we don't live in a world like you're describing.
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Not only that, but he's describing a country where the government can compel you to put something inside your own child's body. Vaccines are a good thing on the whole (obviously) but go fuck yourself if you think it's right to force other people to put something in their children against their will.
I have my certification in holistic medicine. And even I think every child should be vaccinated
Thank you for that
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Certification in holistic medicine lol.
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@Joan - Bravo to the pro-vaccine part, and I'm calling bullshit on the "holistic" bit. "Alternative" medicine that WORKS is called "medicine".
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Aunt Messy, I´d give you a hundred up-votes if I could. I don´t even understand how they can use those two words in the same sentence. I lost a friend who went to a center with a so called ¨holistic¨approach in order to avoit the " horribly toxic" chemo therapies after a mastectomy for cancer. After spending a small fortune there, she had just two short weeeks with her daughter before she passed away. In my mind, that is equal to murder - for profit!
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What medical school did you go to? At what university? I thought so.
to whom are you referring? I hope not to the person certified in holistic medicine..because she's PRO-vaccine. or did you stop at "..holistic medicine." ??
Institute of Integrative Nutrition. Some of you need a hug or get laid.
Why isn't this manslaughter? Do anti vaxxers not realize that their child can potentially kill another child? This is ridiculous. Vaccinate your kids! I have a mild form of autism, but am college educated, work full time, am independent, and guess what...I'm vaccinated!
People go to jail over Knowingly spreading HIV, why not extend that to parents that knowingly endanger other children with diseases the human race has developed a defense to. Also for those fucks that think Autistic kids are a symptom, I think they are a cure to the drama human condition. Have you hung out with those human calculators. Their only issue is dealing with emotions. I could use more of that shit. Fuck emotions.
You must be a Vulcan, BTW that's a compliment :)
I work with autistic kids. The most frustrating part of my job is changing the parent's outlook. Their child is a perfectly normal child who just happens to be autistic. There is nothing WRONG with him. Stop acting like he has a disease and stop trying to "cure" him! Think of it as a feature. i.e. tall, athletic, blond. Features are not flaws. I say, "He has autism" the same way I say, "He has blue eyes". Does he have unique challenges in life? Yes. Does he interact with the world differently? Yes. Is he an individual with ideas of his own, who should be respected and accepted for who he is? Definitely!
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Also, autistic ppl probably are the only group where nobody is stupid enough not to vaccinate.
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Right now, the anti-vaxxers have decided to tell everyone that measles prevents cancer.
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Manslaughter? Yeah, that's the world I want to live in, one where it's manslaughter to show symptoms of an illness well after being in the same room as a tiny human. You are just chock full of righteous indignation, eh? You literally advocate that this person go to jail for manslaughter for contracting measles? You are a hateful, spiteful person.
no, just if they do not vaccinate their kids.