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Teacher Refuses To Call Girl By The Name She’s Been Using For 3 Years, Parent Asks For Advice
Teacher Refuses To Call Girl By The Name She’s Been Using For 3 Years, Parent Asks For Advice
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Teacher Refuses To Call Girl By The Name She’s Been Using For 3 Years, Parent Asks For Advice

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As the great William Shakespeare once asked, “What’s in a name?” A lot, as it turns out—especially if you don’t like it.

Reddit user CoralMansion submitted a post to the platform’s parenting community, asking its members to share their opinions on a recent incident concerning their daughter.

The girl, Penelope, doesn’t like her name and wants everyone to call her Fiji instead. However, one of her teachers refused to do so, leaving the girl feeling misunderstood and frustrated.

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    A name is a big part of a person’s identity, and this girl felt like hers just didn’t fit

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    But when she asked people to call her by a different one, her teacher refused

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    Our name isn’t just a string of letters

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    The girl’s strong feelings toward her identity are understandable. According to psychologist Adam Alter, a marketing professor at NYU who’s studied people’s name preferences, we attach significant meaning to names when forming impressions.

    To get a better understanding of the situation, consider this extreme hypothetical case: say a couple named their children Yes and No.

    “Imagine having to present yourself as Yes versus No for your childhood, adolescence, and then into adulthood,” Alter presents this example. “One major effect is that it changes how you present yourself to others as you imagine how they’ll respond to your name,” which, in turn, influences how they actually do respond to you.

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    And if you feel like the name doesn’t really represent who you are, usually two things can happen: you end up feeding off of people’s responses to present a self that doesn’t feel entirely authentic, or you chafe against the impression your name puts forth, subvert the associated expectations, and feel trapped by a label that doesn’t seem accurate.

    Either way, the predicament can create a sort of constant impostor syndrome, which could be what Fiji was going through.

    A person’s name can even reflect their character and appearance

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    The link between who a person is and what they’re called is a concept known in psychology research as “nominative determinism,” or the idea that our name can shape who we become. A study that Alter co-authored found that we tend to think more favorably of people whose names are easier to pronounce — and that those people, in turn, are more likely to achieve professional success than their similarly qualified but more tongue-twisty counterparts.

    One 2015 study even discovered that people look like their names: when participants saw a photo of a stranger and were asked to guess the person’s name from a list of choices, they picked the right one at a rate significantly higher than chance.

    (For instance, in one of the experiments, the correct name of Dan was picked out of the pool — which also included Jacob, Josef, and Nathaniel — 38 percent of the time, as opposed to the 25 percent that would indicate random guessing.)

    The explanation that the researchers behind this research offered for their results echoes Alter’s point: In many cases, a name is “a self-fulfilling prophecy.”

    But they added that a name can instead be a “self-defeating prophecy” as well, when we adjust our appearance in subtle ways to intentionally rebel against a name that doesn’t fit. So maybe the teacher could’ve kept an open mind?

    As the story went viral, its author joined the discussion in the comments

    Some people shared their own similar experiences

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    Queen Jackson.
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Given names are just as made up as nicknames. They’re just given by different people.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On the first day of class, I always told my students "If you want to be called something different from what's on this paper or I mispronounce it, just tell me. And If I keep getting it wrong, don't say to yourself 'Well, I must be nothing and nobody to him." Instead say to yourself "He's old and stupid" and keep correcting me." Never a problem.

    Mike Fitzpatrick
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was that way when I was in school in the 60s. This teacher is being a hard-a*s who really needs to learn to pick her battles.

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    Herringbone
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked with a woman whose forenames were Elsie Edith Ethel (not necessarily in that order). When she went to school, the teacher called in her parents, to tell them she thought their child was deaf because she didn't answer to her name. She had always been known as Twink, and didn't know her real names.

    Sonia Holloway
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where I'm from when ever we got in major trouble our mom would call us by our full government name .......first middle extra names last name lol but called by the familial name given to us by family

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    digitalin
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son's first initial is T. and his middle name is Rex. I'm sure he'd show up on the name-hating groups here, but he likes to go by T. Rex in class/with friends. His new teacher gave me the side-eye, but to my knowledge still calls him that. It is (a version of) his legal name, after all.

    Sergio Bicerra
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the coolest non-intentional nickname. Tell him GRROAARRRRR! from me.

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    Betty Walker
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was born in the 40s, where if you said your name was Jim, they wrote James. I was named BETTY, everyone wrote Elizabeth. I refused to answer to it, roll call in school, I refused to answer , spent lots of time in the hall the the office in grade 9 my report card was sent home with ELIZABETH ON IT( parents had told them numerous times) my Dad went to his desk, gave me a letter for my teacher. She ran to the office, paperwork was all changed and I was never Elizabeth again. I am in my late 70s and get mad when I think of all the adults etc who would not call me by my name, yes it does change how you think of yourself , and all the times I was called rude, disrespectful etc for not answering to a name that wasn’t mine.

    Joann Hart
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol, my cousin Jack and Jon, the schools wanted to tell their parents full names please. They said that is their full first names

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    BluEyedSeoulite
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to laugh when a FIRST grade teacher is saying school is a formal and professional environment. Ma'am, your students still regularly eat their boogers. Go to a private high school with thst attitude

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I taught in one. It doesn't work there, either.

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    Casey Payne
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "...and said if we didn't like the name, we shouldn't have used it." The first words out of my mouth would have been "F**k you" and that would have been the end of the conversation. The teacher is ignoring and insulting the parents while bullying the kid. This is where "parental rights" should be invoked. So far, it has only been used to ban books and promote bigotry. If it can't be used to protect kids from being bullied by their teacher, what good is it?

    Rachel Ann
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're right. It's bullying. Plain and simple.

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    𝐆𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐦-𝐏𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know about this teacher for certain, but when our family ran into teachers with this "no nicknames" policy, it was almost ALWAYS an excuse so they could deadname trans children. They only applied it to all the children in their classroom so they could claim it wasn't. (The tipoff was that they would also refuse to use pronouns that differed from the child's biological sex.) "I'm sorry, but this paper says [gendered name] and [male/female], so that's how they're going to be known in my classroom. I don't want to confuse the other children."

    Tyke
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd report the teacher and get the kid moved. My Headmistress in Primary school called me Gillian then would shout at me if I didn't answer. I said I thought she mean the girl in the class who is actually called Gillian, I was sent to sit on the wall outside for being disrespectful. My Mum came to get me, Head told her the story. My Mum simply went... But her name is JILL, I hate the name Gillian, call her by her name. I made this about me, but basically, Fiji is her name, teacher needs to call her that. No arguments.

    Ivona
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited)

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    Fiji isn't her name. Fiji is a silly name she made up when she was just 4 years old. Her parents shouldn't have allowed her to keep calling her that, especially not when she started school. If she doesn't like to be called Penelope, then she can pick a normal name she likes and her parents will change that to be her legal name.

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    Silre (she/her)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If my teacher had just started calling me by my first name I probably wouldn't have answered. Nobody uses my first name, not even my family.

    BluEyedSeoulite
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was confused when I found out my grandpa was a Sr and my uncle a Jr because they've always gone by different names, my grandpa by his middle name, uncle by his first. I found out at my uncle's funeral, it was such a non-issue

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    Queen Jackson.
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Given names are just as made up as nicknames. They’re just given by different people.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On the first day of class, I always told my students "If you want to be called something different from what's on this paper or I mispronounce it, just tell me. And If I keep getting it wrong, don't say to yourself 'Well, I must be nothing and nobody to him." Instead say to yourself "He's old and stupid" and keep correcting me." Never a problem.

    Mike Fitzpatrick
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was that way when I was in school in the 60s. This teacher is being a hard-a*s who really needs to learn to pick her battles.

    Load More Replies...
    Herringbone
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked with a woman whose forenames were Elsie Edith Ethel (not necessarily in that order). When she went to school, the teacher called in her parents, to tell them she thought their child was deaf because she didn't answer to her name. She had always been known as Twink, and didn't know her real names.

    Sonia Holloway
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where I'm from when ever we got in major trouble our mom would call us by our full government name .......first middle extra names last name lol but called by the familial name given to us by family

    Load More Replies...
    digitalin
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son's first initial is T. and his middle name is Rex. I'm sure he'd show up on the name-hating groups here, but he likes to go by T. Rex in class/with friends. His new teacher gave me the side-eye, but to my knowledge still calls him that. It is (a version of) his legal name, after all.

    Sergio Bicerra
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the coolest non-intentional nickname. Tell him GRROAARRRRR! from me.

    Load More Replies...
    Betty Walker
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was born in the 40s, where if you said your name was Jim, they wrote James. I was named BETTY, everyone wrote Elizabeth. I refused to answer to it, roll call in school, I refused to answer , spent lots of time in the hall the the office in grade 9 my report card was sent home with ELIZABETH ON IT( parents had told them numerous times) my Dad went to his desk, gave me a letter for my teacher. She ran to the office, paperwork was all changed and I was never Elizabeth again. I am in my late 70s and get mad when I think of all the adults etc who would not call me by my name, yes it does change how you think of yourself , and all the times I was called rude, disrespectful etc for not answering to a name that wasn’t mine.

    Joann Hart
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol, my cousin Jack and Jon, the schools wanted to tell their parents full names please. They said that is their full first names

    Load More Replies...
    BluEyedSeoulite
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to laugh when a FIRST grade teacher is saying school is a formal and professional environment. Ma'am, your students still regularly eat their boogers. Go to a private high school with thst attitude

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I taught in one. It doesn't work there, either.

    Load More Replies...
    Casey Payne
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "...and said if we didn't like the name, we shouldn't have used it." The first words out of my mouth would have been "F**k you" and that would have been the end of the conversation. The teacher is ignoring and insulting the parents while bullying the kid. This is where "parental rights" should be invoked. So far, it has only been used to ban books and promote bigotry. If it can't be used to protect kids from being bullied by their teacher, what good is it?

    Rachel Ann
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're right. It's bullying. Plain and simple.

    Load More Replies...
    𝐆𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐦-𝐏𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know about this teacher for certain, but when our family ran into teachers with this "no nicknames" policy, it was almost ALWAYS an excuse so they could deadname trans children. They only applied it to all the children in their classroom so they could claim it wasn't. (The tipoff was that they would also refuse to use pronouns that differed from the child's biological sex.) "I'm sorry, but this paper says [gendered name] and [male/female], so that's how they're going to be known in my classroom. I don't want to confuse the other children."

    Tyke
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd report the teacher and get the kid moved. My Headmistress in Primary school called me Gillian then would shout at me if I didn't answer. I said I thought she mean the girl in the class who is actually called Gillian, I was sent to sit on the wall outside for being disrespectful. My Mum came to get me, Head told her the story. My Mum simply went... But her name is JILL, I hate the name Gillian, call her by her name. I made this about me, but basically, Fiji is her name, teacher needs to call her that. No arguments.

    Ivona
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited)

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    Fiji isn't her name. Fiji is a silly name she made up when she was just 4 years old. Her parents shouldn't have allowed her to keep calling her that, especially not when she started school. If she doesn't like to be called Penelope, then she can pick a normal name she likes and her parents will change that to be her legal name.

    Load More Replies...
    Silre (she/her)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If my teacher had just started calling me by my first name I probably wouldn't have answered. Nobody uses my first name, not even my family.

    BluEyedSeoulite
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was confused when I found out my grandpa was a Sr and my uncle a Jr because they've always gone by different names, my grandpa by his middle name, uncle by his first. I found out at my uncle's funeral, it was such a non-issue

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