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Dad Ignores “No Ring, No Last Name” Rule That Woman Said, Shocked That She Gives Baby Her Name
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Dad Ignores “No Ring, No Last Name” Rule That Woman Said, Shocked That She Gives Baby Her Name

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One of the funnest exercises for first-time parents has got to be picking the name of the child. After all, we all train for this moment our entire lives, whether it’s naming a Barbie when we’re kids or just choosing the perfect name for our furry friend.

So, of course, by the time a couple is expecting their first kid, they also need to make a lot of decisions, but the name may well be on top of the priority list. Or at least, that’s what today’s narrator thought when she decided to choose her firstborn son’s surname, thinking the dad was fully on board. Turns out, he wasn’t, so here’s what happened.

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    So imagine this woman’s surprise when she suddenly found out her husband was against the name of their child

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    The fact that the kid’s surname wasn’t his was more upsetting to the man than the fact that he had a fake marriage ceremony

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    When the dad brought up the topic of the name again, the mom felt guilty that she had written down her last name instead

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    Apparently, the dad’s traditional values are coming into play, and the woman is struggling to figure out what to do

    It’s not always easy to co-parent when your core values are so drastically different, especially when cultural differences are also involved, which is exactly the case in today’s story. The original poster (OP) is a 32-year-old New Zealand woman married to a 34-year-old Punjabi man. Or at least, that’s what she thought, but we’ll get to that in a moment.

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    The couple welcomed their son five months ago, and that’s where the problem begins. They had been together for nine years, and according to the OP, she had always made it clear that she wanted any future children to have her last name, whether she was married or not. Her husband, however, apparently believed this would only apply to hospital paperwork, not legal documents.

    So when their baby was born, the OP gave him her last name, as previously agreed. But once the man realized this, all hell broke loose. He took issue with it, even going so far as to hide the truth from his family until the name could be changed. Here’s the twist: the OP had always said she’d use whatever last name she had at the time, assuming she would have taken her husband’s surname by the time their son was born.

    However, the ceremony they had in India was not legally recognized as a marriage. Even though documents were signed, there was no official wedding certificate. As a result, the woman never legally changed her name, hence why their son has her maiden name. This has become a major point of contention, as the husband holds more traditional views and believes their child should carry his last name.

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    This is actually a pretty difficult moral situation, mostly because the woman never expected her husband to oppose the name so strongly. However, taking into account the fact that he’s Punjabi, it does help explain his reaction. Experts note that in many Punjabi and broader Indian traditions, children almost exclusively take their father’s last name, mostly due to the importance of family lineage.

    But this isn’t a Punjabi-exclusive choice. In the U.S. alone, around 96% of children born to heterosexual couples take their father’s surname, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. New Zealand, however, tends to have a much more laid-back approach, with parents often choosing to hyphenate surnames or even create entirely new ones, so you can tell where they didn’t necessarily see eye to eye.

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    That said, this contrast in beliefs was bound to come up, especially if the husband intended to continue following his family’s traditions. Parenting experts generally agree that a child’s name should reflect a balance between cultural values and personal identity, and while the mother repeatedly made her wishes clear, there seems to have been a lack of communication regarding the father’s own expectations.

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    Online, however, people were quick to defend the OP. While the lack of communication is worth noting, most netizens felt it paled in comparison to the more obvious red flags, like him hiding the fact that their marriage wasn’t legally valid. So, what do you think the OP should do? Give in to the father’s wishes, or stand her ground and keep her son’s name as it is? Let us know in the comments.

    Netizens, however, had no questions and immediately warned the woman about the red flags in the relationship

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    Binky Melnik
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    1 week ago

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    If someone allowed me to be overjoyed at a wedding, allowed me to think I’m married, and allowed me to feel satisfaction that I’m now living the rest of my life with our baby and my husband and I found out that behind closed doors he was giggling with my family about having pulled one over on me, as soon as I was done crying for having been played for a fool, I’m waiting until he leaves the house and then taking all my stuff and my baby and BOLTING. As fast as I can. What a cruel thing to do to someone. That kid ought never know who his dad is because he’s a massive, raging аsshole.

    Suzie
    Community Member
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He lied about getting married and she still chose to have a child with him. smh

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "wedding" was in 2025 and the baby is only 5 months old now. She could have already been pregnant during the "wedding". And it sounds like, from her post, that she thought she WAS married for a long time until she started pushing for the certificate, so she thought she was married/was getting married when she DID get pregnant. She didn't "choose to have a child with him" AFTER she learned the wedding was fake. Come on, at least read the actual content before you make judgements about people.

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    KatSaidThat
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    1 week ago

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    Binky Melnik 1 hour ago If someone allowed me to be overjoyed at a wedding, allowed me to think I’m married, and allowed me to feel satisfaction that I’m now living the rest of my life with our baby and my husband and I found out that behind closed doors he was giggling with my family about having pulled one over on me, as soon as I was done crying for having been played for a fool, I’m waiting until he leaves the house and then taking all my stuff and my baby and BOLTING. As fast as I can. What a cruel thing to do to someone. That kid ought never know who his dad is because he’s a massive, raging аsshole. [this got hidden but I agree with what Binky said so thought I wold copy and paste - Katsaidwhat]

    KatSaidThat
    Community Member
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol, guess they didn't like my copy and paste either...

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kat - I seriously cannot understand why some comments get auto-hidden on BP right now XD Maybe there's a threshold for a certain number of capital letters in a row? Binky allcapsed the word "bolting", so maybe that's it. I don't even know any more XD

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    roddy
    Community Member
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds as if the “marriage” was a lie for the parents and he didn’t want it. He’s not willing to commit, but doesn’t want the parents to find out their grandchild has a different surname. That’s on him, though.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP seems like a nice person. WHY THE F**K is she even with that guy?>?!!?!

    Nicole Weymann
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have no idea about an India specific cultural background so maybe I'm missing out key details, but otherwise it looks like the guy married OP because his family wanted him to, he didn't file the papers because he didn't want that marriage , and is now throwing a hissy fit because his kid isn't "officially" his. It's possible he wants the kid, but not OP (for whatever reason), but in my opinion he's angry because sooner or later his family will notice that his kid doesn't have his name and go apeshit on him for the fake marriage.

    Sparky Hughes
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    1 week ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Certain parts of India and Asia are very misogynistic. They have a son. I get pedicures at a salon/spa owned by a Cambodian couple. She embraced being American and he’s still stuck in Cambodia mentally. They have 3 kids and all he cares about is his son. I like to mess with him and talk about famous historical women. Every single pedicure I prep by researching a famous woman. My next one is Elizebeth Friedman.

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    Kate Johnson
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    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So your bf is mentally defective and misogynistic? He sounds like a con man and total AH.

    Sparky Hughes
    Community Member
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    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why don’t people read. The commenter saying I don’t know where they are from stands out. She explicitly said she was from New Zealand

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, I used to work with someone with last name Majors. She ended up marrying someone with the last name McMasters. They combined their names and adopted McMajors as their new married last name. Which...I guess is kind of cute...? I guess? And then they got divorced. lmao The hassle to have to change both your names again. lmao

    2cdq45rpbx
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why, oh why, are you with this guy?

    RJ RQ
    Community Member
    5 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You need to run from this man

    T'Mar of Vulcan
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's with the poster saying "your son will be raised to be Sikh"? Most Indians (from India, not, like South Africa or somewhere) are Hindu.

    Brazen
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kind of get the feeling that he wants the child to have his last name so that he has a legal ground to take the child back to his country of origin without being tied down to her. Very scary thought.

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    1 week ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    If someone allowed me to be overjoyed at a wedding, allowed me to think I’m married, and allowed me to feel satisfaction that I’m now living the rest of my life with our baby and my husband and I found out that behind closed doors he was giggling with my family about having pulled one over on me, as soon as I was done crying for having been played for a fool, I’m waiting until he leaves the house and then taking all my stuff and my baby and BOLTING. As fast as I can. What a cruel thing to do to someone. That kid ought never know who his dad is because he’s a massive, raging аsshole.

    Suzie
    Community Member
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He lied about getting married and she still chose to have a child with him. smh

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "wedding" was in 2025 and the baby is only 5 months old now. She could have already been pregnant during the "wedding". And it sounds like, from her post, that she thought she WAS married for a long time until she started pushing for the certificate, so she thought she was married/was getting married when she DID get pregnant. She didn't "choose to have a child with him" AFTER she learned the wedding was fake. Come on, at least read the actual content before you make judgements about people.

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    KatSaidThat
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    1 week ago

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    Binky Melnik 1 hour ago If someone allowed me to be overjoyed at a wedding, allowed me to think I’m married, and allowed me to feel satisfaction that I’m now living the rest of my life with our baby and my husband and I found out that behind closed doors he was giggling with my family about having pulled one over on me, as soon as I was done crying for having been played for a fool, I’m waiting until he leaves the house and then taking all my stuff and my baby and BOLTING. As fast as I can. What a cruel thing to do to someone. That kid ought never know who his dad is because he’s a massive, raging аsshole. [this got hidden but I agree with what Binky said so thought I wold copy and paste - Katsaidwhat]

    KatSaidThat
    Community Member
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol, guess they didn't like my copy and paste either...

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
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    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kat - I seriously cannot understand why some comments get auto-hidden on BP right now XD Maybe there's a threshold for a certain number of capital letters in a row? Binky allcapsed the word "bolting", so maybe that's it. I don't even know any more XD

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    roddy
    Community Member
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds as if the “marriage” was a lie for the parents and he didn’t want it. He’s not willing to commit, but doesn’t want the parents to find out their grandchild has a different surname. That’s on him, though.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP seems like a nice person. WHY THE F**K is she even with that guy?>?!!?!

    Nicole Weymann
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have no idea about an India specific cultural background so maybe I'm missing out key details, but otherwise it looks like the guy married OP because his family wanted him to, he didn't file the papers because he didn't want that marriage , and is now throwing a hissy fit because his kid isn't "officially" his. It's possible he wants the kid, but not OP (for whatever reason), but in my opinion he's angry because sooner or later his family will notice that his kid doesn't have his name and go apeshit on him for the fake marriage.

    Sparky Hughes
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 week ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Certain parts of India and Asia are very misogynistic. They have a son. I get pedicures at a salon/spa owned by a Cambodian couple. She embraced being American and he’s still stuck in Cambodia mentally. They have 3 kids and all he cares about is his son. I like to mess with him and talk about famous historical women. Every single pedicure I prep by researching a famous woman. My next one is Elizebeth Friedman.

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    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So your bf is mentally defective and misogynistic? He sounds like a con man and total AH.

    Sparky Hughes
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why don’t people read. The commenter saying I don’t know where they are from stands out. She explicitly said she was from New Zealand

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, I used to work with someone with last name Majors. She ended up marrying someone with the last name McMasters. They combined their names and adopted McMajors as their new married last name. Which...I guess is kind of cute...? I guess? And then they got divorced. lmao The hassle to have to change both your names again. lmao

    2cdq45rpbx
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why, oh why, are you with this guy?

    RJ RQ
    Community Member
    5 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You need to run from this man

    T'Mar of Vulcan
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's with the poster saying "your son will be raised to be Sikh"? Most Indians (from India, not, like South Africa or somewhere) are Hindu.

    Brazen
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kind of get the feeling that he wants the child to have his last name so that he has a legal ground to take the child back to his country of origin without being tied down to her. Very scary thought.

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