Guy Won’t Get The Message, Keeps Bothering Woman At Gym, Is Shocked When She Snaps
Is it okay for guys to approach a woman at the gym? There’s been a raging debate about this for many years. Some believe it’s a total “no-no,” while others say “why not?” Then there are those who argue that it largely depends on the circumstances, and how the man goes about it.
One woman’s recent experience has caused people to butt heads over the topic once again. She shared how she was approached by a very persistent guy, both in and out of the gym. When some netizens criticized the woman for how “rudely” she handled the situation, she backed up her behavior by relaying another, more scary, incident involving a different man at the gym. Only then, did a few people understand where she was coming from.
You can read more about it below. Bored Panda also reached out to Etiquette Expert and Author Rosalinda Randall for her advice regarding approaching women at gym.
Putting on headphones at the gym to avoid being approached is one of the oldest tricks in the book
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But when that didn’t work for one woman on a very a persistent guy, she snapped
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People had questions and the woman provided more info
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The woman gave an update later and included some details of another gym incident
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“Let me be your workout”: an expert weighs in on the whole debate
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While the jury is out on whether or not it’s ever okay to approach a woman at the gym, it’ll probably always depend on the preference of the woman. And for those who are willing to risk it, we reached out to Etiquette Expert and Author, Rosalinda Randall to get her advice.
Firstly, you should never interrupt her workout; instead, wait for a break. “Don’t approach if she’s with a trainer or a workout buddy,” Randall added. And for the love of ripped bodies, do not ever take photos or videos of her. Besides being creepy, she could report you, and you’ll have some serious problems on your hands.
“I’d advise a man to approach in a professional manner,” Randall told Bored Panda, adding that there’s no room for obnoxious lines like “Let me be your workout,” “I could watch you all day,” or “You look like you can use a break.”
She says a less creepy approach might be, “Excuse me, may I show you another way to lift?” “Would you mind if I worked out with you?” or “I’ve seen you here a few times, I thought I’d say hi”. But even those lines won’t fly with some women.
Reasons she might brush you off or shut you down…
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One of the reasons women give for not wanting to be approached at gym is because they are there purely to train, and that’s all they want to focus on. Randall says sometimes there are other things at play. You might be the third guy who’s hit on her and quite frankly, she’s over it. Or, maybe she’s just not into you and you’re not her type. She’s possibly even seen you hit on every other woman at the gym. She could also be in a relationship, or not interested in men at all.
If you’re on the receiving end of being shut down by a woman at the gym, Randall advises that you maintain your dignity and don’t let your ego take over. She suggests saying something like, “Got it, have a great workout” or “I didn’t mean to bother you.” Or simply say nothing and walk away.
We asked Randall how women should deal with unwanted approaches at the gym. “If the guy’s approach is disrespectful or his talk is bargain-basement, your go-to response should be to promptly stop, stand up, squarely look him in the eye, and sternly tell him to back off,” advised the expert. “If he doesn’t, report him immediately. Don’t try to handle it yourself.”
She added that if it’s a “sweet or cheesy” attempt to start a conversation, but you’re not in the mood, you can still be tactful. “There’s no need to berate another human being or make a scene,” she told Bored Panda.
Randall suggests simply responding with something along the lines of, “Thank you for the compliment. I’m not interested,” “It’s kind of you, but I’m not available” or “I’m here to work out, not meet anyone.”
“A tight-fitting outfit is not a signal for come-hit-on-me,” do better!
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“Some women smile at everyone they make eye contact with, while some women are by nature, alluring,” says Randall. “This can unintentionally give off the wrong signals.” She warns that guys should exercise their brains too before risking being shut down.
“Be aware that you might be misinterpreting a smile or a glance,” said Randall. “That come-hither look could have been directed at someone behind you.”
“A tight-fitting outfit is not a signal for come-hit-on-me,” she warns, adding that, “Working out may boost hormones, so beware of your mind’s frisky thoughts and body’s feelings of attraction.”
Randalls says that if it isn’t the right time, but there might be some interest, suggest meeting after the workout. “If her response is negative or indifferent, offer a sincere and brief apology, then walk away and never look back.”
She also cautions that should the encounter turn into a relationship and then fizzles out, things could get awkward. And you might find yourself looking for a new gym.
People had lots to say in response to the story and many took the woman’s side
“Rude”: some felt the woman could have done better
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I agree with EVERYTHING she said in her post. And to all the YTA's comments, no one is owed a conversation with anyone. Yes the guy was friendly but it doesn't matter, she doesn't want to speak to him (or anyone) and she doesn't have to (and that guy also ignored multiples clues that she wanted to be left alone)
So much this! And I love her ending about why the guy didn’t confront the other guy.
Load More Replies...I just want to follow up with an answer to her question: Why is it easier for a man to comfort a woman than to confront the man being a jerk? Well, there's a lot of reasons, but here's a few: 1) Men are often just as shocked as women are when I guy behaves way out of line. It can be hard to realize what is happening until it's actually happened, so intervening is often just not possible until our brains are computing what the situation is. 2) Not all men are comfortable with confrontation. And starting a fight with a guy rather than telling a manager or offering comfort are just not top of mind. 3) We are also regularly told that by being confrontational, we are making the incident about the man, and taking away from the fact that a woman was just put into that situation, and so we should be recognizing her experience first. These are just a few, there are plenty more, but I ran out of space
Yeah. Re. 3: What works best for me is knowing the other men in a space will have my back. I can handle an аsshole, but if it turns out I can't, there's five guys who have already manifested in the corners of my eyes to make sure nothing goes wrong.
Load More Replies...The only time I would talk to a woman at a gym would be if I needed to tell her the building was on fire.
For me it would be to ask where the exit is, and why am I in a gym?
Load More Replies...I don't wonder why at all. I think women's only spaces make a LOT of sense. Men can be horrible in ways that women rarely are. And no, not all men, not even most men, but statistically speaking MOST women will encounter at LEAST one man that IS horrible. So yeah, women's only spaces make a tonne of sense to me
Load More Replies...I can understand that the first encounter with the man appearing super close and grabbing her would make her wary of others there for quite some time. I know I would be freaked out! I wouldn’t worry about being blunt or “rude” to the second of any gender. Clueless extrovert guy will just go extrovert on someone else, it’s not like she insulted his mother, his thighs, or his choices in life.
Where the eff do those YTA a$$hats come from? It is not the woman's duty to be nice to a stranger, especially in a place not designed for meetings. There was a woman in the steam room that had to cover her head with her towel b/c the guys would not leave her alone. The one time a woman sighed and took out her ear-buds taught me a lesson.
But it was for hundreds of years and that's a lot of prejudice to deal with. That attitude has come to be in the last 25 years and it wonderful to see.
Load More Replies...The whole thing about if she would act differently if he were attractive is a moot point. It was a little weird to approach her outside the gym, but for some people, they might click and end up seeing each other. The problem with the guy is he wouldn't take the hint. She rejected him pretty clearly by not giving him the fist bump. After that interaction, he should have left her alone. IMO, that's where he really went wrong. And it could have gone differently, and that's okay.
I don't think OP is an AH at all - he didn't get the message, and generally OP was pretty respectful about it. I don't, however, agree with OPs take on the guy who said something to her after the baseball cap man incident. If it had been me, I might say something to the front desk, but that's about it. I wouldn't want to situation worse by creating needless confrontation - I don't know OP or baseball cap man, and I'm not jumping into something like that based off my 20-second perspective.
Am I the only one who was stunned by the fact that OP said she works out while she's s****d?
Why would you be shocked at that? Exercise is an excellent stress reliever!
Load More Replies...I am hearing impaired and wear aids in both ears, but I don't always wear them when I want to eat alone, or read, or taking a walk. I can hear some in one ear but not enough to have a conversation. Persistent guys--those who demand my attention with unsubtle hints or complain that I'm such a b***h for ignoring them don't get the apologetic "sorry, I don't hear well." I've been called rude, cold, unfriendly my whole life (I'm in my 70s now) just because I didn't hear someone. As a woman I'd really prefer to be left alone unless I have deliberately put myself into a social situation, like going to a party. It would never occur to me to talk to someone who showed every sign of either not hearing or has no interest in speaking to me. The writer is not the jerk.
i dont owe anyone conversation. i will ignore someone to the end of time rather than talk to them. the only people i care to interact with is my family and a very few coworkers. that is it. and i dont hang out with coworkers outside of work. im fine never speaking to a stranger if i dont absolutely have to. she did everything right and i applaud her
In answer to her last question, I think the 2nd man was respecting her. He didn't need to confront the jerk. She had already done that. The second guy was saying that he was a witness and he had her back.
I thought that way too. In my first month as a bar person in my local, I was stoked that when I had to kick someone out, the locals kept an eye but really trusted me to have the situation handled. They were there if I needed them but were confident that I had it covered, and that made me feel SO fantastic. I feel this bloke also was respectful of her ability to deal with it but wanted to let her know that he felt she shouldn’t have to.
Load More Replies...Headphones are usually the sign of "I'm not talking." However, I always find it sad that people don't want to chat to each other while working out. I don't mean just man/woman chat. I mean just friendly chat with another human being.
Sometimes I get the feeling that the reason men choose "comfort the gal" over "correct the guy" is that he wants other guys to do wrong stuff so he himself looks better. Don't get me wrong, I do know plenty of men who like to stand up and help women out...but most of them are gay.
If someone has headphones in, regardless of their genitalia, do not approach, especially if they are in the middle of a work out. Like, leave people alone in the gym. Unless you are a trainer, don't try and offer help unless someone is clearly struggling and even then approach with caution and politely.
"This is why men don't approach women anymore" is so f*****g stupid. He did approach her. She showed no interest. He kept at it because he couldn't take a hint so SHE had to be upfront about it. But she's the rude one? Nobody owes you anything, even though "wE'Re iN a SoCieTY".
For the YTAs you've obviously never been cornered or touched when you're in zero mood to do so. If a woman is interested she will let you know- otherwise STAY AWAY. Some men will make any excuse to touch you- first bump, "I was going to use those weights", the hand on the back as they pass by "excuse me"- DO NOT TOUCH. I loathe being touched by people I do not know/love.
I don't even interrupt my kids when they wear headphones, let alone a stranger 😆 NTA
Which time? The second time or third that she shut him down. The least she could have done? Shut the f**k up
Load More Replies...I agree with EVERYTHING she said in her post. And to all the YTA's comments, no one is owed a conversation with anyone. Yes the guy was friendly but it doesn't matter, she doesn't want to speak to him (or anyone) and she doesn't have to (and that guy also ignored multiples clues that she wanted to be left alone)
So much this! And I love her ending about why the guy didn’t confront the other guy.
Load More Replies...I just want to follow up with an answer to her question: Why is it easier for a man to comfort a woman than to confront the man being a jerk? Well, there's a lot of reasons, but here's a few: 1) Men are often just as shocked as women are when I guy behaves way out of line. It can be hard to realize what is happening until it's actually happened, so intervening is often just not possible until our brains are computing what the situation is. 2) Not all men are comfortable with confrontation. And starting a fight with a guy rather than telling a manager or offering comfort are just not top of mind. 3) We are also regularly told that by being confrontational, we are making the incident about the man, and taking away from the fact that a woman was just put into that situation, and so we should be recognizing her experience first. These are just a few, there are plenty more, but I ran out of space
Yeah. Re. 3: What works best for me is knowing the other men in a space will have my back. I can handle an аsshole, but if it turns out I can't, there's five guys who have already manifested in the corners of my eyes to make sure nothing goes wrong.
Load More Replies...The only time I would talk to a woman at a gym would be if I needed to tell her the building was on fire.
For me it would be to ask where the exit is, and why am I in a gym?
Load More Replies...I don't wonder why at all. I think women's only spaces make a LOT of sense. Men can be horrible in ways that women rarely are. And no, not all men, not even most men, but statistically speaking MOST women will encounter at LEAST one man that IS horrible. So yeah, women's only spaces make a tonne of sense to me
Load More Replies...I can understand that the first encounter with the man appearing super close and grabbing her would make her wary of others there for quite some time. I know I would be freaked out! I wouldn’t worry about being blunt or “rude” to the second of any gender. Clueless extrovert guy will just go extrovert on someone else, it’s not like she insulted his mother, his thighs, or his choices in life.
Where the eff do those YTA a$$hats come from? It is not the woman's duty to be nice to a stranger, especially in a place not designed for meetings. There was a woman in the steam room that had to cover her head with her towel b/c the guys would not leave her alone. The one time a woman sighed and took out her ear-buds taught me a lesson.
But it was for hundreds of years and that's a lot of prejudice to deal with. That attitude has come to be in the last 25 years and it wonderful to see.
Load More Replies...The whole thing about if she would act differently if he were attractive is a moot point. It was a little weird to approach her outside the gym, but for some people, they might click and end up seeing each other. The problem with the guy is he wouldn't take the hint. She rejected him pretty clearly by not giving him the fist bump. After that interaction, he should have left her alone. IMO, that's where he really went wrong. And it could have gone differently, and that's okay.
I don't think OP is an AH at all - he didn't get the message, and generally OP was pretty respectful about it. I don't, however, agree with OPs take on the guy who said something to her after the baseball cap man incident. If it had been me, I might say something to the front desk, but that's about it. I wouldn't want to situation worse by creating needless confrontation - I don't know OP or baseball cap man, and I'm not jumping into something like that based off my 20-second perspective.
Am I the only one who was stunned by the fact that OP said she works out while she's s****d?
Why would you be shocked at that? Exercise is an excellent stress reliever!
Load More Replies...I am hearing impaired and wear aids in both ears, but I don't always wear them when I want to eat alone, or read, or taking a walk. I can hear some in one ear but not enough to have a conversation. Persistent guys--those who demand my attention with unsubtle hints or complain that I'm such a b***h for ignoring them don't get the apologetic "sorry, I don't hear well." I've been called rude, cold, unfriendly my whole life (I'm in my 70s now) just because I didn't hear someone. As a woman I'd really prefer to be left alone unless I have deliberately put myself into a social situation, like going to a party. It would never occur to me to talk to someone who showed every sign of either not hearing or has no interest in speaking to me. The writer is not the jerk.
i dont owe anyone conversation. i will ignore someone to the end of time rather than talk to them. the only people i care to interact with is my family and a very few coworkers. that is it. and i dont hang out with coworkers outside of work. im fine never speaking to a stranger if i dont absolutely have to. she did everything right and i applaud her
In answer to her last question, I think the 2nd man was respecting her. He didn't need to confront the jerk. She had already done that. The second guy was saying that he was a witness and he had her back.
I thought that way too. In my first month as a bar person in my local, I was stoked that when I had to kick someone out, the locals kept an eye but really trusted me to have the situation handled. They were there if I needed them but were confident that I had it covered, and that made me feel SO fantastic. I feel this bloke also was respectful of her ability to deal with it but wanted to let her know that he felt she shouldn’t have to.
Load More Replies...Headphones are usually the sign of "I'm not talking." However, I always find it sad that people don't want to chat to each other while working out. I don't mean just man/woman chat. I mean just friendly chat with another human being.
Sometimes I get the feeling that the reason men choose "comfort the gal" over "correct the guy" is that he wants other guys to do wrong stuff so he himself looks better. Don't get me wrong, I do know plenty of men who like to stand up and help women out...but most of them are gay.
If someone has headphones in, regardless of their genitalia, do not approach, especially if they are in the middle of a work out. Like, leave people alone in the gym. Unless you are a trainer, don't try and offer help unless someone is clearly struggling and even then approach with caution and politely.
"This is why men don't approach women anymore" is so f*****g stupid. He did approach her. She showed no interest. He kept at it because he couldn't take a hint so SHE had to be upfront about it. But she's the rude one? Nobody owes you anything, even though "wE'Re iN a SoCieTY".
For the YTAs you've obviously never been cornered or touched when you're in zero mood to do so. If a woman is interested she will let you know- otherwise STAY AWAY. Some men will make any excuse to touch you- first bump, "I was going to use those weights", the hand on the back as they pass by "excuse me"- DO NOT TOUCH. I loathe being touched by people I do not know/love.
I don't even interrupt my kids when they wear headphones, let alone a stranger 😆 NTA
Which time? The second time or third that she shut him down. The least she could have done? Shut the f**k up
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