Anyone who’s lived with different roommates may have at least one story of an unpleasant experience. It could be about stealing food, inconsiderate behavior, or, in the case of today’s story, deplorable hygiene.
A Reddit user dealt with a roommate who had not showered for four months. After trying to dialogue multiple times, she had no choice but to threaten eviction.
The woman now asks the AITA subreddit whether she took things too far.
Living with someone who refuses to practice proper hygiene can be a struggle
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A woman shared a room with someone who had not showered in four months
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She was forced to take drastic measures after her roommate continuously refused
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A person’s refusal to practice proper hygiene may have deep-rooted reasons
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The author didn’t specify why her roommate refused to shower. But as experts say, it’s not an automatic indicator of poor hygiene. For some people, it’s a byproduct of depression.
As explained by clinical psychologist Dr. Roberta Ballard, the brain fog caused by depressive episodes makes it harder for someone to take care of themselves.
“It is particularly common to have negative thoughts about self-worth,” Dr. Ballard told Medical News Today. “The confusion and memory problems make it more difficult to harness whatever energy a person may have, so it is not unusual for an individual who is depressed to feel that showering is too difficult and not important.”
Dr. Ballard adds that the lack of energy brought on by their mental condition also plays a role.
“When someone is depressed, their energy is so depleted that it is easy to feel overwhelmed by things that are usually a part of everyday life.
“As a result, things like routine hygiene often fall by the wayside.”
Bringing up personal hygiene issues requires a tactful approach
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Experts recommend a tactful approach because poor hygiene can be a very personal issue. Behavior change expert Kerry Patterson shared some ways to go about it in an article he wrote for Psychology Today.
One of his tips is to try to give the person an out. He gave an example of two co-workers, one of whom wasn’t keen on practicing proper self-care.
“For example, ‘I get the feeling that maybe you’ve been exercising before work recently. In any case, we work so close together that I’m wondering if we can talk about a change that’s affecting our working environment.’
“At this point, you’ve delicately placed the problem in the open, and the sooner you finish the discussion, the better. This is all about helping the other person save face.”
Based on her story, it appears the author exhausted all her options regarding diplomatic discussions. And as Patterson stated in his article, “You shouldn’t have to suffer in silence.”
She did what she had to do, and while it may have been harsh, it is what the situation called for at that point.
The woman provided more info in the comments of her post
Most people sided with her
She says she was first threatened with legal action for discrimination, but her roommate eventually relented
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Her culture stops her from bathing? Does she culturally identify as 1500s Spanish conquistador?
Going to call b.s on it being cultural. I'm betting she grew up in a dirty household and this was her normal. My cousin grew up like this and still does it in his 40s. They genuinely don't care and don't notice the stench because they're used to it. That and they get jollys from having people grossed out by them.
I genuinely can't think of any (modern) culture that would have rules about not bathing.
Load More Replies...Due to my health issues and weight, it's very hard for me to shower, even using a chair. I've been a lot worse for about 8 or 9 months than I even realized. I hadn't been showering but once every week or two. Mind, other than my owners, I live alone. Well, I spent some time in the hospital, and just got home yesterday. Today I showered, and it was (relatively speaking) easy! It feels GOOD to be clean!
I hope it will keep being easy for you, hopefully not just relatively easy but actually easy. I've had shower issues both due to depression and a broken leg and it really is nice to be clean.
Load More Replies...It says that there is a possibility of depression but the she also goes for a 2-hour run everyday? I'm a medical professional, but not a mental health expert. I'm curious to as what I could be possibly be missing if it's truly a depression or depressive like illnesses.
Yes. I can't imagine a person who is truly depressed would even have the energy to go outside and run... Never mind a 2hr daily run
Load More Replies...I had one of my "extra", 27m, kids move into my old place a while ago. Literally everything he owned was absolutely minging. Sweat, foot odour, BO, bodily fluids etc. I pushed him, to the point of tears, to do laundry. He was convinced that bedding only gets washed every season, so 4 times a year. Socks, wear them daily and wash on day 7 etc, etc. The smell permeated the entire 3 storey house to the extent that, as soon as you opened the main door, all you noticed was him. 6 weeks and he had to leave. He was just lazy and dirty.
What culture doesn't wash? Once when I was teaching (a huge mixed class of kids from at least 7 different cultures) and said something like they had to bath/shower once a day, they all went, "NOOOO! Twice! In the morning and at night!!!" So if a bunch of Zulu, Xhosa, Tswana, Hindu, Muslim, Coloured, Afrikaans and English kids know about hygiene, this woman is nuts!
I once had to go just a couple of days without showering because my shower was broken. And that was enough to make me start reeking like nobody's business. I could smell myself and it was AWFUL. Showering again after that was one of the best feelings in the world. And in what culture is not washing yourself considered appropriate?? This girl sounds completely unhinged.
I'm guessing MHI, needs to see professional help, and maybe meds? Had a neigbour like this once, stinked up the whole corridore (used to get to the appartments). Sadest part were the to dogs having to not get any walks and living in that total filth. Hope both dogs and human got help!
Load More Replies...I love it when people (even sometimes "professionals") find far-fetched excuses for people's unacceptable behaviour. Whether it is depression, a cultural thing or just plain laziness it's irrelevant. Nobody has to put up with such level of dirt. It's disgusting, unhigyenic and a health risk. I understand people have problems, but you either keep a minimum of "normality" or you need to live alone. I would have had her evicted after the first month, honestly.
This! No one should have to put up with the roommate's nasty behavior. It doesn't matter what the root cause is.
Load More Replies...She hasn't showere in 4 months????? Wth?? Omg I can't even imagine the smell 🤮
Apart from the "normal" body smells, she goes running every morning! I'm not surprised the landlord felt like vomiting!
Load More Replies...So if she never showers, and has periods... OMFG she must stink to high heaven. I could not stand myself after a day with my period. How dangerous is that, the filth must be unimaginable. I've lived in the Middle East and many other countries - occasionally you would smell an individual who hadn't bathed, just as you do here in the west. There's no culture that prohibits bathing unless she's talking about pigs - and even they have mud baths!
Places in Europe a few centuries back. Can't think of any other cultures against bathing.
Load More Replies...Even if you don't take a shower how about a birdbath as they call it here in the south. Bathroom sink, soap and wash rag, start with the face and go down your body from there. I'm wondering if this chick even uses deodorant.
Even if you just get the stinkiest bits it will help immensely. Although, after a 2 hour run, all the bits are probably pretty bad.
Load More Replies...I wouldn't even say that showering is necessary, but washing oneself sure is. It may not be as easy, but a sinkful of water, soap, and a washcloth can still keep you smelling okay. I'm also not aware of ANY culture that forbids showering. I wonder what about it is forbidden. Being naked? Touching your own body? Contact with water? Can the water only come from one specific source, maybe? Is it the soap? What is it?
Even cultures with limitations do have workarounds. For example, no nudity rules can mean wearing something while bathing.
Load More Replies...I worked with someone who never showered and it was awful. In the end management stepped in and gave them an ultimatum. Shower or ship out.
Had a colleague like this - he'd walk to and from work, at least a mile, but wear the same shirt 3 days in a row or more. Credit to my boss who, when it was brought up, responded with "It hasn't escaped my nose either".
When I was severely depressed I actually ended up showering more often as the hot water and white noise was comforting. Wasn't great for my skin or my water bill though. Unless the OPs roommate has some medical issue like water allergy (It's a real thing) or that condition that makes people smell like rotting fish due to a metabolic issue she doesn't have a leg to stand on. There is no culture that I can think of that doesn't practice personal hygiene in some form. There are many ways to wash and clean oneself and it seems the OPs (former) roommate just wasn't taught. It's either an indication of a severe mental health issue or that she was badly neglected as a child.
1 shower too little, too late. She's going to use that next week. "But I showered last week".
I've done the no shower thing for a week, due to a deployment. And it was funny that it wasn't until some helo pilot came into the area (he smelled like Irish Spring soap), we really didn't notice how stinky we were. Hot and dusty - sure, but the stink didn't sink in till we all smelled the clean guy. LOL
I worked in a costume shop in city that has it's fair share of hippy types. We would have unwashed people come in and try a variety of costumes leaving us to mitigate the smell or outright wash the costumes after they left. We finally created a policy of people needing to come in clean before they tried anything on.
Even if her culture forbid bathing (which I seriously doubt, as does everyone else here), who cares? She's not in that culture anymore. Cultural diversity doesn't mean everyone keeps the entirety of their home culture when they move. It means nobody should be forced to give up their religious holidays, traditional clothing (with exceptions), cultural music, and the like. But when it comes to SOCIETAL norms in the adopted culture, people should give them up. Like chewing with your mouth open. I've read of people defending that, saying it's their culture, but if it isn't the culture where you live, then it's simply rude.
I witnessed how a Guy entered the first floor of a Building and the first thing my coworkers who knew him did was as fast as possible close the door of our room and open the Windows, and even then we could still smell his body odor. And that was only him entering the first floor and going his way! Unbelievable how someone can stink like that
Trust me, it's believable. I lived for 10 months with someone who rarely showered or bathed. The stench was overpowering. What's worse, I didn't realize that my clothes would pick up the stench until I was outside. I was so glad to move out (for reasons unrelated to this). When I came back to visit, the familiar stench wouldn't allow me to enter his apartment. I may be a bit lax in showering, but at least I SHOWER on a regular basis. I'm not fond of gagging people out, especially medical staff during appointments.
Load More Replies...Question about BP polls: I read it as a general question, or not specific to the described by the OP. As a general, hypothetical, I would think it would depend on the situation because every situation is different. Also, the poll question is vague. “Poor” hygiene is subjective. If someone went 4 days without a shower, that’s poor hygiene, but is it sufficient to evict them? I’m just asking
Really depends on personal interpretation. I generally read it as associated to the degree in the post.
Load More Replies...I don't understand why she refused to fix this. It's a simple solution. I know of no "culture or religion" that refuses personal hygiene.
Oh I Had this!! We lived together for a year and none of us ever saw/heard him bath or shower, he said he did it on a night when we are all asleep... But if that's the case... then why is there a smell coming from your room as soon as you open the door that permeates through the entire house within a minute...
As a theatre major, I took the department's Acting Class. On the first day, the professor made the point that in this class, we'd be physically active and work closely with each other, and that, as a common courtesy, to practice good hygiene. One guy--not a theatre major, and the theatre majors didn't know him--took this as some sort of a challenge, I guess. He did not bathe or shower from the beginning of the semester until (I believe) he went home over Thanksgiving break. He had curly blond hair, which gradually turned into short dreads. The rest of the class would quickly group to avoid him. He utterly reeked. The rest of us were able to ride out the time between end end of Thanksgiving break and the end of the semester.
My son has a health condition that gives him the worst BO every, showering or not. I just found a new Deodorant to try but his clothes and room are unbearable, and it's not his fault(not the exact same situation), but it's still not great. The whole family has had 1 on 1 convos to see if we can help but he gets embarrassed easy. But again it's in no way his fault, and he does try so maybe she just gave up trying to help herself?
🎵take a bath! Wash yo self! Take a bath! Show me whatchu scrubbin with!🎵 (Shake yo @$$)
I'm curious as to why she use "culture" as a reason behind her behavior. IF my culture really forbids me to shower then screw that. I'll shower whenever I need/want, even if it's too cold I'll find a way to warm up some water. Doesn't make sense. I think she grew up in poorer household where the parents want to minimize water bill (?)
People are fascinating. Once told you smell awful and its a problem.. their reaction is to blow it off and do nothing? Or to be more angry that they were called out... thats so bizarre to me but I know people do exactly that.
I don't know of any culture that currently does not bathe at least once a week. Unless she's stuck on Mars like the guy in the movie or on the International Space Station, the culture issue is a non starter. And if she's from a Southeast Asia culture (I know that calling someone a dog is a real insult in India) she's full of BS, because half the crew I worked with for 13 years in a global firm were from there were very hygienic (and nice). Ditto with our Middle Eastern colleagues.
Her culture stops her from bathing? Does she culturally identify as 1500s Spanish conquistador?
Going to call b.s on it being cultural. I'm betting she grew up in a dirty household and this was her normal. My cousin grew up like this and still does it in his 40s. They genuinely don't care and don't notice the stench because they're used to it. That and they get jollys from having people grossed out by them.
I genuinely can't think of any (modern) culture that would have rules about not bathing.
Load More Replies...Due to my health issues and weight, it's very hard for me to shower, even using a chair. I've been a lot worse for about 8 or 9 months than I even realized. I hadn't been showering but once every week or two. Mind, other than my owners, I live alone. Well, I spent some time in the hospital, and just got home yesterday. Today I showered, and it was (relatively speaking) easy! It feels GOOD to be clean!
I hope it will keep being easy for you, hopefully not just relatively easy but actually easy. I've had shower issues both due to depression and a broken leg and it really is nice to be clean.
Load More Replies...It says that there is a possibility of depression but the she also goes for a 2-hour run everyday? I'm a medical professional, but not a mental health expert. I'm curious to as what I could be possibly be missing if it's truly a depression or depressive like illnesses.
Yes. I can't imagine a person who is truly depressed would even have the energy to go outside and run... Never mind a 2hr daily run
Load More Replies...I had one of my "extra", 27m, kids move into my old place a while ago. Literally everything he owned was absolutely minging. Sweat, foot odour, BO, bodily fluids etc. I pushed him, to the point of tears, to do laundry. He was convinced that bedding only gets washed every season, so 4 times a year. Socks, wear them daily and wash on day 7 etc, etc. The smell permeated the entire 3 storey house to the extent that, as soon as you opened the main door, all you noticed was him. 6 weeks and he had to leave. He was just lazy and dirty.
What culture doesn't wash? Once when I was teaching (a huge mixed class of kids from at least 7 different cultures) and said something like they had to bath/shower once a day, they all went, "NOOOO! Twice! In the morning and at night!!!" So if a bunch of Zulu, Xhosa, Tswana, Hindu, Muslim, Coloured, Afrikaans and English kids know about hygiene, this woman is nuts!
I once had to go just a couple of days without showering because my shower was broken. And that was enough to make me start reeking like nobody's business. I could smell myself and it was AWFUL. Showering again after that was one of the best feelings in the world. And in what culture is not washing yourself considered appropriate?? This girl sounds completely unhinged.
I'm guessing MHI, needs to see professional help, and maybe meds? Had a neigbour like this once, stinked up the whole corridore (used to get to the appartments). Sadest part were the to dogs having to not get any walks and living in that total filth. Hope both dogs and human got help!
Load More Replies...I love it when people (even sometimes "professionals") find far-fetched excuses for people's unacceptable behaviour. Whether it is depression, a cultural thing or just plain laziness it's irrelevant. Nobody has to put up with such level of dirt. It's disgusting, unhigyenic and a health risk. I understand people have problems, but you either keep a minimum of "normality" or you need to live alone. I would have had her evicted after the first month, honestly.
This! No one should have to put up with the roommate's nasty behavior. It doesn't matter what the root cause is.
Load More Replies...She hasn't showere in 4 months????? Wth?? Omg I can't even imagine the smell 🤮
Apart from the "normal" body smells, she goes running every morning! I'm not surprised the landlord felt like vomiting!
Load More Replies...So if she never showers, and has periods... OMFG she must stink to high heaven. I could not stand myself after a day with my period. How dangerous is that, the filth must be unimaginable. I've lived in the Middle East and many other countries - occasionally you would smell an individual who hadn't bathed, just as you do here in the west. There's no culture that prohibits bathing unless she's talking about pigs - and even they have mud baths!
Places in Europe a few centuries back. Can't think of any other cultures against bathing.
Load More Replies...Even if you don't take a shower how about a birdbath as they call it here in the south. Bathroom sink, soap and wash rag, start with the face and go down your body from there. I'm wondering if this chick even uses deodorant.
Even if you just get the stinkiest bits it will help immensely. Although, after a 2 hour run, all the bits are probably pretty bad.
Load More Replies...I wouldn't even say that showering is necessary, but washing oneself sure is. It may not be as easy, but a sinkful of water, soap, and a washcloth can still keep you smelling okay. I'm also not aware of ANY culture that forbids showering. I wonder what about it is forbidden. Being naked? Touching your own body? Contact with water? Can the water only come from one specific source, maybe? Is it the soap? What is it?
Even cultures with limitations do have workarounds. For example, no nudity rules can mean wearing something while bathing.
Load More Replies...I worked with someone who never showered and it was awful. In the end management stepped in and gave them an ultimatum. Shower or ship out.
Had a colleague like this - he'd walk to and from work, at least a mile, but wear the same shirt 3 days in a row or more. Credit to my boss who, when it was brought up, responded with "It hasn't escaped my nose either".
When I was severely depressed I actually ended up showering more often as the hot water and white noise was comforting. Wasn't great for my skin or my water bill though. Unless the OPs roommate has some medical issue like water allergy (It's a real thing) or that condition that makes people smell like rotting fish due to a metabolic issue she doesn't have a leg to stand on. There is no culture that I can think of that doesn't practice personal hygiene in some form. There are many ways to wash and clean oneself and it seems the OPs (former) roommate just wasn't taught. It's either an indication of a severe mental health issue or that she was badly neglected as a child.
1 shower too little, too late. She's going to use that next week. "But I showered last week".
I've done the no shower thing for a week, due to a deployment. And it was funny that it wasn't until some helo pilot came into the area (he smelled like Irish Spring soap), we really didn't notice how stinky we were. Hot and dusty - sure, but the stink didn't sink in till we all smelled the clean guy. LOL
I worked in a costume shop in city that has it's fair share of hippy types. We would have unwashed people come in and try a variety of costumes leaving us to mitigate the smell or outright wash the costumes after they left. We finally created a policy of people needing to come in clean before they tried anything on.
Even if her culture forbid bathing (which I seriously doubt, as does everyone else here), who cares? She's not in that culture anymore. Cultural diversity doesn't mean everyone keeps the entirety of their home culture when they move. It means nobody should be forced to give up their religious holidays, traditional clothing (with exceptions), cultural music, and the like. But when it comes to SOCIETAL norms in the adopted culture, people should give them up. Like chewing with your mouth open. I've read of people defending that, saying it's their culture, but if it isn't the culture where you live, then it's simply rude.
I witnessed how a Guy entered the first floor of a Building and the first thing my coworkers who knew him did was as fast as possible close the door of our room and open the Windows, and even then we could still smell his body odor. And that was only him entering the first floor and going his way! Unbelievable how someone can stink like that
Trust me, it's believable. I lived for 10 months with someone who rarely showered or bathed. The stench was overpowering. What's worse, I didn't realize that my clothes would pick up the stench until I was outside. I was so glad to move out (for reasons unrelated to this). When I came back to visit, the familiar stench wouldn't allow me to enter his apartment. I may be a bit lax in showering, but at least I SHOWER on a regular basis. I'm not fond of gagging people out, especially medical staff during appointments.
Load More Replies...Question about BP polls: I read it as a general question, or not specific to the described by the OP. As a general, hypothetical, I would think it would depend on the situation because every situation is different. Also, the poll question is vague. “Poor” hygiene is subjective. If someone went 4 days without a shower, that’s poor hygiene, but is it sufficient to evict them? I’m just asking
Really depends on personal interpretation. I generally read it as associated to the degree in the post.
Load More Replies...I don't understand why she refused to fix this. It's a simple solution. I know of no "culture or religion" that refuses personal hygiene.
Oh I Had this!! We lived together for a year and none of us ever saw/heard him bath or shower, he said he did it on a night when we are all asleep... But if that's the case... then why is there a smell coming from your room as soon as you open the door that permeates through the entire house within a minute...
As a theatre major, I took the department's Acting Class. On the first day, the professor made the point that in this class, we'd be physically active and work closely with each other, and that, as a common courtesy, to practice good hygiene. One guy--not a theatre major, and the theatre majors didn't know him--took this as some sort of a challenge, I guess. He did not bathe or shower from the beginning of the semester until (I believe) he went home over Thanksgiving break. He had curly blond hair, which gradually turned into short dreads. The rest of the class would quickly group to avoid him. He utterly reeked. The rest of us were able to ride out the time between end end of Thanksgiving break and the end of the semester.
My son has a health condition that gives him the worst BO every, showering or not. I just found a new Deodorant to try but his clothes and room are unbearable, and it's not his fault(not the exact same situation), but it's still not great. The whole family has had 1 on 1 convos to see if we can help but he gets embarrassed easy. But again it's in no way his fault, and he does try so maybe she just gave up trying to help herself?
🎵take a bath! Wash yo self! Take a bath! Show me whatchu scrubbin with!🎵 (Shake yo @$$)
I'm curious as to why she use "culture" as a reason behind her behavior. IF my culture really forbids me to shower then screw that. I'll shower whenever I need/want, even if it's too cold I'll find a way to warm up some water. Doesn't make sense. I think she grew up in poorer household where the parents want to minimize water bill (?)
People are fascinating. Once told you smell awful and its a problem.. their reaction is to blow it off and do nothing? Or to be more angry that they were called out... thats so bizarre to me but I know people do exactly that.
I don't know of any culture that currently does not bathe at least once a week. Unless she's stuck on Mars like the guy in the movie or on the International Space Station, the culture issue is a non starter. And if she's from a Southeast Asia culture (I know that calling someone a dog is a real insult in India) she's full of BS, because half the crew I worked with for 13 years in a global firm were from there were very hygienic (and nice). Ditto with our Middle Eastern colleagues.





































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