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Woman Makes Sister Cry When She Explains Why She Agrees To Watch Brother’s Kids And Not Hers
Woman Makes Sister Cry When She Explains Why She Agrees To Watch Brother’s Kids And Not Hers
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Woman Makes Sister Cry When She Explains Why She Agrees To Watch Brother’s Kids And Not Hers

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Working from home is still working. You have your responsibilities, and you need to deliver, whether you go into the office or remain in your living room in your pajamas.

So whenever Reddit user Last_Home_6544‘s sister asks her to look after her kids, the woman says no—they’re just too much for her to handle.

But recently, there was an emergency. Her 4-year-old nephew got suspended from preschool, leaving her sibling with no other option but to plead with her to make an exception.

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    And after she refused the last time, things got heated between the two of them

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    Text about quiet, well-behaved twins who enjoy reading and gaming, possibly on the spectrum.

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    Vicki Broadbent of Honest Mum says parenting was never meant to be a one-person effort

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    Vicki Broadbent is the founder of the family blog Honest Mum and a multi-award-winning TV broadcaster and author of The Working Mom: Your Guide to Surviving and Thriving at Work and at Home.

    She told Bored Panda, “It takes a village to raise a child, and that village is even more critical when one parent is essentially doing two parents’ jobs.”

    “It’s not unreasonable for a single mom or any mom or dad to reach out to their family members for help with their children, provided those they are asking are able and willing to help and are suitable, e.g., have experience around children and are to be trusted, “Broadbent explained.

    “Being a mother and the default/only parent is exhausting mentally and physically, so it’s important to rest where possible so you are able to show up as your best self. Parenting was never originally meant to happen in this way; relatives or close friends and neighbours were always meant to support and help raise younger children, as they so often do in the animal world.”

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    The woman’s concern about her job is understandable

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    There’s a good reason why remote workers keep emphasizing that they can’t just run errands whenever someone asks them to.

    Workers logging on from home five days a week were 35% more likely to be laid off in 2023 than their peers who put in office time, according to an analysis of two million white-collar workers conducted by employment data provider Live Data Technologies.

    The data showed 10% of fully remote workers were laid off that year, compared with 7% of those working in an office full time or on a hybrid basis.

    “When a hiring manager gets news they have to cut 10% of the staff, it’s easier to put someone on the list you don’t have a close personal relationship with,” said Andy Challenger, senior vice president at Challenger, Gray & Christmas, an outplacement firm. Much of the disparity, according to him, is that it’s simply harder to build attachments to people you don’t see face-to-face.

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    However, who are single parents to ask for help if not their family?

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    The Harris Poll found that over a third of working parents who rely on unpaid childcare (35%) say this allows them to have increased flexibility in work schedules.

    4 in 5 working parents who rely on grandmothers for childcare say the care they provide allows them to pursue their career goals.

    When asked what impact that lack of access to unpaid childcare would have on their work situations, parents mention needing special accommodations at work (33%), not being able to manage their current workload (28%), and that their quality of work would suffer (27%).

    Additionally, 1 in 5 working parents who rely on unpaid childcare say they would have to quit their jobs without this support.

    Life is messy. Stuff happens. And if a single mom with three kids can’t get anyone from her family to help her, where else is she supposed to go?

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    “I think if you don’t have a village, it is worth saving to pay for additional help where possible, or at least if you require urgent or emergency care, such as hiring babysitters or paying for breakfast and after-school clubs,” Vicki Broadbent added. “If this doesn’t work, consider building your own village with close friends in a similar situation to you.”

    Vicki, who is a mom of three herself, has lived many hours from family and knows this situation well. “We built a close network of friends close to us, and we all supported one another with shared school runs and childcare plus emergency care,” she said.

    “There will always be other parents whom you can help in return, building your own community, if you are unable to find that in your own family.”

    Many people believe it was okay for the woman to refuse

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    And some even shared their own similar stories

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    But others believe she should have been more empathetic

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    lenka
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is tricky. I work from home too and the number of family members who think that I can supervise children AND still work is crazy. When my kids were little I put them in day care so that I could get my work done and I would still have family members ask me to take their kids regularly because 'you are home anyway, what difference does it make'. It makes a big difference.

    Lyoness
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get it either. Would you drop your kid off at someone's office and expect the person to work and chase after a 4 year old? It's ridiculous.

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    ghost gurl
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone saying YTA is the sibling in their own family dynamic begging for free help with a bunch of unruly kids. The sister literally threw a temper tantrum when OP refused to babysit. No wonder her kids are a nightmare. Hire a professional. End of.

    Couragetcd
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly this. Sister wants OP to put her job on the line to deal with her responsibility. That 4 yo is acting out likely because her mom's stress and inattention. That is old enough to know better than to bite unless there is an unmentioned history of biting.

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    Bianca
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand these YTA. OP works from Home. If she would work at the office, she wouldn't be there. She doesn't have the time to constantly supervise her sisters kids. Her Job would suffer. Of course her sister is in a bad place here, but she could ask her mother or other relatives instead of OP. I don't like this blame game. These are her kids, so she and her Husband (he still should contribute) should seek a work around and he should definitely contribute money for a babysitter.

    Kit Black
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The disabled mother that op points out can't watch children? Other relatives? What other relatives? Oh, and she and her husband the one who walked away and is completely ignoring his children. She should make sure her husband helps her seek a workaround. The guy who is - checks notes - gone and giving no s***s? People write comments like this and then get mad about programs that provide free child care and mental healthcare for children going through traumatic circumstances. That's your village, folks, that's the village you keep telling people to rely on

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    Michelle C
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Brothers kids...self sufficient, quiet, and brother pays....Sisters kids...hellions, require a lot of supervision, and sister doesn't pay. It's OPs choice regarding what she can handle and is willing to tolerate. Sister made a choice to have 3 children it doesn't mean it's her families obligation to watch them. Nor should she keep hounding OP to watch them, take the "No" and find another solution.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So no one is under obligation to care for someone else's kids. Especially during their work day. I do think the family should help sister find a solution so she doesn't lose her job. Even if it's unfair to help pay for someone to watch the kid for a week, having their sister because unemployed is going to cost more financially and in drama, so look at it like an investment. But it sounds like sister isn't good at creative solutions, so help her with that.

    Emilu
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When it comes down to it, the only person involved in this story that had the sister’s kids is the sister. I’m assuming nobody put a gun to her head and insisted she had three children. Admittedly I’m from the school of “you have it, you deal with it and any help you get is a bonus”, but to get help is a privilege, not a right. If OP’s sister was my sister, would I try and help out? Sure. Do I blame OP for not, though? Nope, not at all. Not her circus.

    Ima Manimal
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People will often try to make you feel like you are their LAST resort. You’re not. You’re simply the most convenient.

    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She said she doesn't like kids and can only tolerate watching her brother's kids because they're quiet and self-sufficient. I don't like kids and probably couldn't tolerate any kid. I don't know why parents would want anyone who doesn't like kids to babysit their kids. I have cats. If someone told me they don't like cats, I would never let them be around my cats. Same thing.

    Nova Rook
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dystopian America has no nationalized child care services. This is just who America is.

    Betsy S
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Raise a*s-hole children and you're going to have trouble roping anyone into spending time with them. It's not rocket science. If she doesn't get enough child support to afford a normal amount of babysitting for a single parent, then the dad needs to cough up enough to pay for before and after school care and enough to cover the odd sick day so mum can continue to work. The sister has NO responsibility here. The PARENTS need to get this handled.

    Bartlet for world domination
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The phrase "left to their own devices" has taken on a literal meaning :) If it were me, I'd give the money I make from babysitting easy twins to my sister who needs to hire a professional. Like one of the commenters said, OP and their brother sound like they could pitch in. But I'm close to my sister; not everybody is.

    Franz Buhlmann
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why doesn't your sister take her kids to her job? That is what she is asking you to do! As for all those people that call you "yta", why are they not pitching in and helping your sister? It's really sad how people feel that others that chose not to have their own children would or should be willing to watch someone else's kids? I also think it's funny how people think that you should help your sister pay for childcare. If you wanted those expenses, you would have your own kids to support. It is also weird how people can not accept the fact that their can be mature six year olds. Most likely because these people failed to excell in their parenting skills. One of my children was better behaved in church as a baby than most adults were. He paid full attention to the pastor during the entire church service including the preaching. The adults didn't even do that! The loud crying only happened when he couldn't see the pastor. Of course, he also let us know when he needed something.

    Hope Tirendi
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First we need to fix the "work from home". If your too STUPID to realize work from home IS WORK your to stupid to have kids. Stop raising them to be little animals. Sisters kids sound like they've never had any discipline. That's on Sis. How they behave is not normal child behavior. Op says she's an introvert instead of the twins being on any spectrum maybe they are just introverts like her.

    Nils Skirnir
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Enough!! Quiet, well-behaved, literate kids are NOT usually on the spectrum. I know the modern, attention seeking, loudmouthed world wants us to think that, but they’re not. Stop making autism into a thing.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But OP's writing really reads on the spectrum, so I'm guessing the family has a history and some knowledge about autism. She's their aunt, I'm guessing she knows better than a stranger if they might have autism. Being quiet and well behaved isn't proof for or against.

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    Dusty's mom
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sister's kids also have paternal family. Are they able to help? How about paternal grands? Where IS their father in this mishmash? I'm married, childless, and not babysitter material. Sounds like you aren't either. Stick to your guns. You're handling all you can handle.

    Archanae
    Community Member
    7 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, the poor sister. OFC she throws a tantrum, she's at the end of the roll... She's all alone to look after 3 kids under 10. She's going to be UNEMPLOYED if no one steps up to help, FFS ! Family is not only for nice BBQs! And this is coming from a child free, WFH woman (me)! Ofc the sister can't possibly understand how OP is so selfish and playing favorites, no matter how OP explains it. She can't think clearly being sleep deprived, stressed with her job, her duties, her motherly duties, etc. She's but human and everyone in this story has dehumanized her... The sister is underwater, that's entirely understandable. She should sue the father tho, who doesn't see his kids, he's 50% at fault for having made these kids (and they didn't ask to be born you know... they're victims here, victim of their parents who can't and/or don't know how to raise them). Brother and OP should both pitch in to offer the sister a sitter. And so should the mom. If it were me, as I absolutely don't believe in 'gentle parenting' (on the contrary), I'd have said "ok, but if your kids misbehave I need a written paper authorizing me to discipline them according to their misdeeds" (usually, half an hour of forcing a kid to face a wall alone in a room calms them quite a bit, or confiscating/throwing away their favorite toy...), bc misbehaving can't be tolerated, and biting even less... But again, that's me. I'm short tempered and I'm child free by choice. I just am devastated for the sister, as she deserves better, imho. ESH.

    Mr. Beev
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think I'd want to babysit a kid that got suspended from preschool either. How the f*ck do you get suspended from preschool? 🤯

    Katchen
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My kid got suspended from preschool when he was TWO for throwing a chair. Do I think he lifted it over his head, Incredible Hulk style? I do not. I found another preschool as soon as I could.

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    Anika Monosmith
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a special needs sibling that I would drop everything for as a kid and as a young adult. When I was 19, I was willing to lose my job just so I could go on an indefinite s*****e-watch. Then I ended up adopting my special needs second cousin when he was 13-months-old. Over time I had to stop helping my brother because his and my son's needs competed with each other. At no point of my life did I react to either of their needs with the mindset of "Their needs will ruin my day, so therefore I won't sacrifice a moment of my time". OP is right that she can't take a week off work, and she should not be expected to. But I think the sister's outburst has more to do with the standard selfish behavior the OP has tried to defend. She's acting like sacrificing some comfort for the sake of love is inconceivable. Why can't she ever babysit when not working? She can't be a workaholic, because OP stated that her twin niece/nephew will entertain themselves while she works OR PLAYS.

    Monique Williams
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get it....the favoritism is so blatant is obvious though. I really feel for her sister she's in need of help and has no support system.

    Alexx Tinney
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dies your brother know you dint actually WATCH his kids and that if one of them choked to death on a sandwich they had to make for themselves that you wouldn't even know for 2 hours? YTA times a million. Not because you won't watch sisters kids but because you're dangerous af

    Trillian
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well no one can force her but she does not sound like a nice sister. No obligation of course but d**n, her sister sounds like she really needs a break. Her kids sound like normal kids that age, the twins sound eerie.

    lenka
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sort of agree, but I also hear OP's frustration about it being a one way street. I have two SIL... when my kids were little, one SIL was always available to help when I needed her. I could absolutely count on her. The other, not so much. I was always treated like an inconvenience. Now both SIL have young children of their own. Helpful SIL calls me when she is stuck. I don't feel taken for granted. She recently had surgery and I took time off work to look after her kids and help around the house while she recovered. Other SIL lives an hour away and regularly asks me to take her kids because I work from home. She has three *very* high maintenance kids (2, 7 and 10) one of whom has been suspended for fighting. I would not take those three kids for a week. I agree empathy is necessary and it sounds like the sister really could use a break, but the OP has boundaries in place for a reason and I don't think it's unreasonable of her to enforce them.

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    Gloomy Sunday
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm on ESH here. The way OP is talking about her sister's kids is insane. Kids will be kids and OP doesn't understand that. That four year old may have behavioral problems so to treat his problems unfairly while pitying the kids you suspect are on the spectrum (I'm on the spectrum fyi) is strange. The 2 year old will obviously be needy either way. It's a child. However, I will say that even though the way OP writes about this makes me enraged and infuriated, working from home is tiring. I totally understand why maybe you don't want to take care of children who are not as "behaved" as your brother's but if you set up a routine and boundaries and a schedule, I do believe the issue can resolve. Also why are six year olds making their food and not you? They're six. Give your sister some empathy and grace but also make sure to set boundaries about her children. Make sure to make a CLEAR set of rules, and balance them between you and partner. It also isn't her fault on her kids behaviors.

    Johanna Briggs
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OPs a total AH, she outright says she basically has nothing to do with her sister's kids. The oldest is 7 and it seems like she made it a point to only involve herself with her brothers kids. I personally would do anything I could to help my sister. But, OP isn't even trying to help her figure something out. And I have 2 kids on the spectrum and a niece, those kids just sound antisocial or really introverted. The kids will grow up to realize their aunt doesn't care about them the same as their cousins. The obvious favoritism is going to affect the kids and she shouldn't be surprised if they never want anything to do with her. I would never push kids away that a had a parent walk out on them. That's just heartless

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA - "i hope you are never in her situation" - she won't be, she is child free, d*****s.

    Motivated sloth
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    8 months ago

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    She’s not obligated by any stretch of the imagination but I think she should know kids can behave entirely different with others versus their parents. Watching her kids might not be as much trouble as it seems. She should maybe try it a few times on a weekend and see how it goes. She should also maybe try interacting with the kids or taking them to a park. Her husband could go as well. She might find that she does actually like kids once she sees their personalities. But the favoritism towards her brother cannot be overlooked in the family dynamic.

    Neea P
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    8 months ago

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    She isn't obliged to watch her sister's children but maybe she could chip in to pay a temporary babysitter. Also, I'm not 100% convinced the self-sufficient twins benefit from the tons of screen time they're getting at her place.

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The phrase "left to their own devices" doesn't mean "the kids are using devices". OP says they read books and play games on a videogame console, both totally normal kid things. They're not ON devices when they're being "left to their own devices". The phrase literally means that the kids are left to do whatever they want to do, not that they're left using devices.

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    Magenta Blu
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    8 months ago

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    What a complete despicable person. And then they will complain and cry when they get old, sour, alone and ditched from everyone. I hope this happens soon. Selfish persons should go extinct

    Dragons Exist
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1. Selfishness is never gonna go extinct, it's not a gene and isn't objective (and the OP isn't selfish), & 2. "alone and ditched from everyone"? So just because her sister could potentially cut contact means that the OP'll be alone, despite the rest of her family?

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    Crystalwitch60
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    8 months ago

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    Eugh , sister needs to you know PARENT her own kids ffs n correct any bad behaviour, I’m a lone mum now have been for 13 yrs now. I’m 60 now n kids are now 24-21 this yr n I was a sahm mum during day when I was married but I also worked of an evening once husband got home , n mine where not little buggers n there is no reason sisters should be , however brothers kids are concerning tbh just sitting alone while aunt works , doesn’t sound that much better tbh , but I’m actually glad aunt don’t want kids imo lol n I know the sisters struggling but I think the kids need a stricter person around not aunt that’s to busy so esh basically

    Kit Black
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    8 months ago

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    So to sum up one sister had a s****y husband who left her and doesn't bother with his kids who were clearly already reacting to the unhappy home environment and are now losing their s**t, the brother has 2 kids who have pretty much been neglected from birth and spend most of their time on a tablet and are so used to that that they make their own lunches at the age of 6, which makes them perfectly easy for 3rd sibling to babysit because she doesn't like children. And therefore these children are tolerable... because they don't impinge upon her existence? And the disabled Grandma can't help either. So just remember that this is the village that we keep telling people is supposed to help them, because we don't want to pay for free public child care, mental health intervention for young children, or any of the other programs that would help make sure the children grow up in safe happy healthy homes

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The phrase "left to their own devices" doesn't mean "the kids are constantly using devices". OP says they read books and play games on a videogame console, both totally normal kid things. They're not "neglected from birth" and no one mentioned them being on tablets.

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    Lisa T
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    8 months ago

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    Wow. I’ve watched nieces and nephews over the years (prior to me having my own kids) and it’s often “stressed me out” . But it’s for a few hours and I love my relatives enough that I’d do this for them. I know how hard it is as a parent and how appreciated it was when someone would mind my kids for a bit so I could have a break. Kids are messy and loud and boisterous a lot of the time. It’s not normal for kids to sit still and quiet for hours at a time. OP sounds like a selfish cow, willing to help only if it doesn’t put her out in any way and she gets paid for it.

    lenka
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is tricky. I work from home too and the number of family members who think that I can supervise children AND still work is crazy. When my kids were little I put them in day care so that I could get my work done and I would still have family members ask me to take their kids regularly because 'you are home anyway, what difference does it make'. It makes a big difference.

    Lyoness
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get it either. Would you drop your kid off at someone's office and expect the person to work and chase after a 4 year old? It's ridiculous.

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    ghost gurl
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone saying YTA is the sibling in their own family dynamic begging for free help with a bunch of unruly kids. The sister literally threw a temper tantrum when OP refused to babysit. No wonder her kids are a nightmare. Hire a professional. End of.

    Couragetcd
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly this. Sister wants OP to put her job on the line to deal with her responsibility. That 4 yo is acting out likely because her mom's stress and inattention. That is old enough to know better than to bite unless there is an unmentioned history of biting.

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    Bianca
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand these YTA. OP works from Home. If she would work at the office, she wouldn't be there. She doesn't have the time to constantly supervise her sisters kids. Her Job would suffer. Of course her sister is in a bad place here, but she could ask her mother or other relatives instead of OP. I don't like this blame game. These are her kids, so she and her Husband (he still should contribute) should seek a work around and he should definitely contribute money for a babysitter.

    Kit Black
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The disabled mother that op points out can't watch children? Other relatives? What other relatives? Oh, and she and her husband the one who walked away and is completely ignoring his children. She should make sure her husband helps her seek a workaround. The guy who is - checks notes - gone and giving no s***s? People write comments like this and then get mad about programs that provide free child care and mental healthcare for children going through traumatic circumstances. That's your village, folks, that's the village you keep telling people to rely on

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    Michelle C
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Brothers kids...self sufficient, quiet, and brother pays....Sisters kids...hellions, require a lot of supervision, and sister doesn't pay. It's OPs choice regarding what she can handle and is willing to tolerate. Sister made a choice to have 3 children it doesn't mean it's her families obligation to watch them. Nor should she keep hounding OP to watch them, take the "No" and find another solution.

    FreeTheUnicorn
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So no one is under obligation to care for someone else's kids. Especially during their work day. I do think the family should help sister find a solution so she doesn't lose her job. Even if it's unfair to help pay for someone to watch the kid for a week, having their sister because unemployed is going to cost more financially and in drama, so look at it like an investment. But it sounds like sister isn't good at creative solutions, so help her with that.

    Emilu
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When it comes down to it, the only person involved in this story that had the sister’s kids is the sister. I’m assuming nobody put a gun to her head and insisted she had three children. Admittedly I’m from the school of “you have it, you deal with it and any help you get is a bonus”, but to get help is a privilege, not a right. If OP’s sister was my sister, would I try and help out? Sure. Do I blame OP for not, though? Nope, not at all. Not her circus.

    Ima Manimal
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People will often try to make you feel like you are their LAST resort. You’re not. You’re simply the most convenient.

    Mark Childers
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She said she doesn't like kids and can only tolerate watching her brother's kids because they're quiet and self-sufficient. I don't like kids and probably couldn't tolerate any kid. I don't know why parents would want anyone who doesn't like kids to babysit their kids. I have cats. If someone told me they don't like cats, I would never let them be around my cats. Same thing.

    Nova Rook
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dystopian America has no nationalized child care services. This is just who America is.

    Betsy S
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Raise a*s-hole children and you're going to have trouble roping anyone into spending time with them. It's not rocket science. If she doesn't get enough child support to afford a normal amount of babysitting for a single parent, then the dad needs to cough up enough to pay for before and after school care and enough to cover the odd sick day so mum can continue to work. The sister has NO responsibility here. The PARENTS need to get this handled.

    Bartlet for world domination
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The phrase "left to their own devices" has taken on a literal meaning :) If it were me, I'd give the money I make from babysitting easy twins to my sister who needs to hire a professional. Like one of the commenters said, OP and their brother sound like they could pitch in. But I'm close to my sister; not everybody is.

    Franz Buhlmann
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why doesn't your sister take her kids to her job? That is what she is asking you to do! As for all those people that call you "yta", why are they not pitching in and helping your sister? It's really sad how people feel that others that chose not to have their own children would or should be willing to watch someone else's kids? I also think it's funny how people think that you should help your sister pay for childcare. If you wanted those expenses, you would have your own kids to support. It is also weird how people can not accept the fact that their can be mature six year olds. Most likely because these people failed to excell in their parenting skills. One of my children was better behaved in church as a baby than most adults were. He paid full attention to the pastor during the entire church service including the preaching. The adults didn't even do that! The loud crying only happened when he couldn't see the pastor. Of course, he also let us know when he needed something.

    Hope Tirendi
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First we need to fix the "work from home". If your too STUPID to realize work from home IS WORK your to stupid to have kids. Stop raising them to be little animals. Sisters kids sound like they've never had any discipline. That's on Sis. How they behave is not normal child behavior. Op says she's an introvert instead of the twins being on any spectrum maybe they are just introverts like her.

    Nils Skirnir
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Enough!! Quiet, well-behaved, literate kids are NOT usually on the spectrum. I know the modern, attention seeking, loudmouthed world wants us to think that, but they’re not. Stop making autism into a thing.

    FreeTheUnicorn
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But OP's writing really reads on the spectrum, so I'm guessing the family has a history and some knowledge about autism. She's their aunt, I'm guessing she knows better than a stranger if they might have autism. Being quiet and well behaved isn't proof for or against.

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    Dusty's mom
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sister's kids also have paternal family. Are they able to help? How about paternal grands? Where IS their father in this mishmash? I'm married, childless, and not babysitter material. Sounds like you aren't either. Stick to your guns. You're handling all you can handle.

    Archanae
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    7 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, the poor sister. OFC she throws a tantrum, she's at the end of the roll... She's all alone to look after 3 kids under 10. She's going to be UNEMPLOYED if no one steps up to help, FFS ! Family is not only for nice BBQs! And this is coming from a child free, WFH woman (me)! Ofc the sister can't possibly understand how OP is so selfish and playing favorites, no matter how OP explains it. She can't think clearly being sleep deprived, stressed with her job, her duties, her motherly duties, etc. She's but human and everyone in this story has dehumanized her... The sister is underwater, that's entirely understandable. She should sue the father tho, who doesn't see his kids, he's 50% at fault for having made these kids (and they didn't ask to be born you know... they're victims here, victim of their parents who can't and/or don't know how to raise them). Brother and OP should both pitch in to offer the sister a sitter. And so should the mom. If it were me, as I absolutely don't believe in 'gentle parenting' (on the contrary), I'd have said "ok, but if your kids misbehave I need a written paper authorizing me to discipline them according to their misdeeds" (usually, half an hour of forcing a kid to face a wall alone in a room calms them quite a bit, or confiscating/throwing away their favorite toy...), bc misbehaving can't be tolerated, and biting even less... But again, that's me. I'm short tempered and I'm child free by choice. I just am devastated for the sister, as she deserves better, imho. ESH.

    Mr. Beev
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think I'd want to babysit a kid that got suspended from preschool either. How the f*ck do you get suspended from preschool? 🤯

    Katchen
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My kid got suspended from preschool when he was TWO for throwing a chair. Do I think he lifted it over his head, Incredible Hulk style? I do not. I found another preschool as soon as I could.

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    Anika Monosmith
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a special needs sibling that I would drop everything for as a kid and as a young adult. When I was 19, I was willing to lose my job just so I could go on an indefinite s*****e-watch. Then I ended up adopting my special needs second cousin when he was 13-months-old. Over time I had to stop helping my brother because his and my son's needs competed with each other. At no point of my life did I react to either of their needs with the mindset of "Their needs will ruin my day, so therefore I won't sacrifice a moment of my time". OP is right that she can't take a week off work, and she should not be expected to. But I think the sister's outburst has more to do with the standard selfish behavior the OP has tried to defend. She's acting like sacrificing some comfort for the sake of love is inconceivable. Why can't she ever babysit when not working? She can't be a workaholic, because OP stated that her twin niece/nephew will entertain themselves while she works OR PLAYS.

    Monique Williams
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get it....the favoritism is so blatant is obvious though. I really feel for her sister she's in need of help and has no support system.

    Alexx Tinney
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dies your brother know you dint actually WATCH his kids and that if one of them choked to death on a sandwich they had to make for themselves that you wouldn't even know for 2 hours? YTA times a million. Not because you won't watch sisters kids but because you're dangerous af

    Trillian
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well no one can force her but she does not sound like a nice sister. No obligation of course but d**n, her sister sounds like she really needs a break. Her kids sound like normal kids that age, the twins sound eerie.

    lenka
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sort of agree, but I also hear OP's frustration about it being a one way street. I have two SIL... when my kids were little, one SIL was always available to help when I needed her. I could absolutely count on her. The other, not so much. I was always treated like an inconvenience. Now both SIL have young children of their own. Helpful SIL calls me when she is stuck. I don't feel taken for granted. She recently had surgery and I took time off work to look after her kids and help around the house while she recovered. Other SIL lives an hour away and regularly asks me to take her kids because I work from home. She has three *very* high maintenance kids (2, 7 and 10) one of whom has been suspended for fighting. I would not take those three kids for a week. I agree empathy is necessary and it sounds like the sister really could use a break, but the OP has boundaries in place for a reason and I don't think it's unreasonable of her to enforce them.

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    Gloomy Sunday
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm on ESH here. The way OP is talking about her sister's kids is insane. Kids will be kids and OP doesn't understand that. That four year old may have behavioral problems so to treat his problems unfairly while pitying the kids you suspect are on the spectrum (I'm on the spectrum fyi) is strange. The 2 year old will obviously be needy either way. It's a child. However, I will say that even though the way OP writes about this makes me enraged and infuriated, working from home is tiring. I totally understand why maybe you don't want to take care of children who are not as "behaved" as your brother's but if you set up a routine and boundaries and a schedule, I do believe the issue can resolve. Also why are six year olds making their food and not you? They're six. Give your sister some empathy and grace but also make sure to set boundaries about her children. Make sure to make a CLEAR set of rules, and balance them between you and partner. It also isn't her fault on her kids behaviors.

    Johanna Briggs
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    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OPs a total AH, she outright says she basically has nothing to do with her sister's kids. The oldest is 7 and it seems like she made it a point to only involve herself with her brothers kids. I personally would do anything I could to help my sister. But, OP isn't even trying to help her figure something out. And I have 2 kids on the spectrum and a niece, those kids just sound antisocial or really introverted. The kids will grow up to realize their aunt doesn't care about them the same as their cousins. The obvious favoritism is going to affect the kids and she shouldn't be surprised if they never want anything to do with her. I would never push kids away that a had a parent walk out on them. That's just heartless

    KatSaidWhat
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA - "i hope you are never in her situation" - she won't be, she is child free, d*****s.

    Motivated sloth
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    8 months ago

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    She’s not obligated by any stretch of the imagination but I think she should know kids can behave entirely different with others versus their parents. Watching her kids might not be as much trouble as it seems. She should maybe try it a few times on a weekend and see how it goes. She should also maybe try interacting with the kids or taking them to a park. Her husband could go as well. She might find that she does actually like kids once she sees their personalities. But the favoritism towards her brother cannot be overlooked in the family dynamic.

    Neea P
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    8 months ago

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    She isn't obliged to watch her sister's children but maybe she could chip in to pay a temporary babysitter. Also, I'm not 100% convinced the self-sufficient twins benefit from the tons of screen time they're getting at her place.

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The phrase "left to their own devices" doesn't mean "the kids are using devices". OP says they read books and play games on a videogame console, both totally normal kid things. They're not ON devices when they're being "left to their own devices". The phrase literally means that the kids are left to do whatever they want to do, not that they're left using devices.

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    Magenta Blu
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    8 months ago

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    What a complete despicable person. And then they will complain and cry when they get old, sour, alone and ditched from everyone. I hope this happens soon. Selfish persons should go extinct

    Dragons Exist
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1. Selfishness is never gonna go extinct, it's not a gene and isn't objective (and the OP isn't selfish), & 2. "alone and ditched from everyone"? So just because her sister could potentially cut contact means that the OP'll be alone, despite the rest of her family?

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    Crystalwitch60
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    8 months ago

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    Eugh , sister needs to you know PARENT her own kids ffs n correct any bad behaviour, I’m a lone mum now have been for 13 yrs now. I’m 60 now n kids are now 24-21 this yr n I was a sahm mum during day when I was married but I also worked of an evening once husband got home , n mine where not little buggers n there is no reason sisters should be , however brothers kids are concerning tbh just sitting alone while aunt works , doesn’t sound that much better tbh , but I’m actually glad aunt don’t want kids imo lol n I know the sisters struggling but I think the kids need a stricter person around not aunt that’s to busy so esh basically

    Kit Black
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    8 months ago

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    So to sum up one sister had a s****y husband who left her and doesn't bother with his kids who were clearly already reacting to the unhappy home environment and are now losing their s**t, the brother has 2 kids who have pretty much been neglected from birth and spend most of their time on a tablet and are so used to that that they make their own lunches at the age of 6, which makes them perfectly easy for 3rd sibling to babysit because she doesn't like children. And therefore these children are tolerable... because they don't impinge upon her existence? And the disabled Grandma can't help either. So just remember that this is the village that we keep telling people is supposed to help them, because we don't want to pay for free public child care, mental health intervention for young children, or any of the other programs that would help make sure the children grow up in safe happy healthy homes

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The phrase "left to their own devices" doesn't mean "the kids are constantly using devices". OP says they read books and play games on a videogame console, both totally normal kid things. They're not "neglected from birth" and no one mentioned them being on tablets.

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    Lisa T
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    8 months ago

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    Wow. I’ve watched nieces and nephews over the years (prior to me having my own kids) and it’s often “stressed me out” . But it’s for a few hours and I love my relatives enough that I’d do this for them. I know how hard it is as a parent and how appreciated it was when someone would mind my kids for a bit so I could have a break. Kids are messy and loud and boisterous a lot of the time. It’s not normal for kids to sit still and quiet for hours at a time. OP sounds like a selfish cow, willing to help only if it doesn’t put her out in any way and she gets paid for it.

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