“Dog-Friendly, Child-Free” Pub That’s Been Banning Kids For 11 Years Sparks Heated Debate

Good grief - walk a block - there'll be another pub. Go to that one instead if a child-free space feels offensive.

Absolutely behind this. I mean it's not for me, I have children and a wife allergic to dogs, but sounds like a lovely spot for those customers. Good on them, I say.

Wtf is going through that man's mind- 'I don't say this often but I genuinely hope they go out of business.' And then the tweet below- 'Pro extinction culture is wild.' Wow, these people are literally insane.

Pubs are where adults go to get drunk and behave like children. No problem with this policy as I don’t want to go out drinking where I have to moderate my language or topics of conversation. To put it another way, a pub is a place where adults go to take a highly dangerous and intoxicating d**g. It is not a place for kids - especially in the evening.

And for those parents that are griping about this and say they can't afford a babysitter than maybe you shouldn't go out.

Is having ONE space that dogs can be but kids cant that much of an issue??

Speaking as a parent, i love child free spaces.

Former food server here. I would go to this place in a heartbeat! With so many places that tolerate bad behavior in children & their entitled parents, give me a dog any day. Bravo 👏👏👏

Why would you take your children into a bar, anyway? They're bored, they're whining, they're fidgeting. Even the parents can't relax around that.

This. I want to eat a roast without having to listen to parents loudly negotiate with their little specimen about eating broccoli before ice cream.

"The Lower Red Lion in St Albans distinguishes itself by welcoming dogs but not children, unlike nearly all other local pubs." So, you know, go to any of the "all other local pubs."

Don't tell them discos, casinos, strip clubs and cigar lounge are also 'child-free' You don't habe to take your minion to every bloody place. Last time I checked my kid was not stitched to my leg.

Why in the world would you bring your child to a pub? You want them be around a bunch of drinking adults, having conversations that their little ears shouldn't be hearing? To me, it sounds like this pub owner has more concern for your children than you do

There are also signs for "No shirt, no shoes, no service" in businesses. They're allowed to set the rules in their own establishments. Do the commenters really want to go into a place and see people without clothes? I don't!

Why would you take a child to a pub anyway?

How wonderful to know there is one place to go where you won't be annoyed by other people's kids.

Yes I hate children, not all children but spoilt brats raised buy Jordi geordie shore parents charlied up and 2pm while offspring they have spawned run around the pub and screaming, getting in the way hogging the pool table. We have to many where I live.

Shows you how many lazy scum bag "not my job to raise my kids but I'll ruin your night out" parents are out there.

Not my business so it's none of my business how the owner chooses to run it. You have a choice to spend your money there or to not do so. I'm sure there will be enough customers grateful for a child free environment to support this business so just go somewhere else if you don't like it. If someone gives you a boundary that you find unacceptable then turn around and go the other way. You are not entitled to trespass over the boundaries that others have set for themselves in their rightfully owned spaces. Many entertainment venues have age limits. Amusement parks have height requirements for some of their rides. Movies have age limits according to rating. It is not a big deal. Before anyone adds that there are discriminatory practices that would be illegal know that I am aware but I also know this is not one of them.

Seem like no one cared for 11 years since this pub has had this policy for this long and still survived Covid. It's just internet keyboard warriors being dramatic and entitled parents piling on. I would 100% support this place because I do not like entitled people. The pub isn't doing bs like being racist or sexist. They are acknowledging that not every place is for children and that there are apparently many other pubs in the area that allow kids. Places that don't allow kids are in the minority.

How long has this place been open? Why has a single internet picture suddenly gotten everyone's knickers in a twist? Hilarious doctor guy said he's looking for the exact opposite? You mean literally everywhere else? Not that hard to find, my dude.

I used to live in New Orleans. The city is about 85% Catholic. I went to many bar/restaurants where their ‘be fruitful and multiply pro-creations’ run amok. One time a kid somehow crawled and got stuck inside the ‘claw machine’ (it’s a coin operated machine filled with toys where you move this claw like thing to scoop up a toy usually to no avail). Fire department came, the parents were too busy to watch them. I personally don’t think small children need to be in bars

I mean, I'm from Canada, where kids aren't allowed in bars. It kinda blows my mind that they're still allowed to watch adults get wasted in other countries

Jesus, if you don't like it go somewhere else. Not like there is a shortage of pubs. Too many people just dying for something to b**ch about.

I agree with it, but not because kids are loud/annoying, but because pubs are no place for kids.

I don't think the real problem is the kids. The problem is more about the a*s hole parents that are raising them.

If private businesses are free to do whatever they want with regard to gay wedding cakes, then the same should apply to dogs and kids as well. It's fair that way.

If people hate kids it's because of s****y parenting. When I'm at a restaurant or cafe or whatever, it's adult time. I don't want my experience ruined by overtired, unsupervised, screaming kids, and sadly that's the kind I see most often, since parents are too busy scrolling social media to watch their kids in public places. When you have a kid, accept that there will be places you can't go and events you will miss. The world doesn't revolve around your kids.

There's a bar in Texas where ties are prohibited and if you wear one they come cut it off you and nail it to the wall. Why get upset about a bar gimmick/practice as long as it's legal? Don't give them business if you disagree, they'll either go under or you won't have to deal with people who agree with them. Seems like a win.

I'm a boy-mom of 3 and I can say when my husband/I have our rare Date Night we don't want to be seated by children. It's for the simple fact we have kids and if we wanted them there it wouldn't be a Date Night. No stress, no mom mom mom, interruptions we just focus on each other for a change. When we do take our sons out we have them make sure they respect others space and don't argue or bicker or be loud interrupting other peoples good time. People don't pay money to have their dinner, movie, etc ruined. We don't helicopter parent but we also don't free range parent letting them run amuk. We know not everyone wants to say/wave Hi a million times to our children. Let people enjoy their time and I agree there's places that could be child free. We don't mind it is what it is.

Mom here. I am so confused. I haven't been to a lot of bars, but I've never seen kids of any age at any of the ones I've been to. I can't imagine kids being louder than the music or the drunk adults (I can barely hear myself talk in those places), but I also can't imagine bringing kids there. It's just not a kid environment. A bar and grill (like Chili's) makes sense, but a regular bar/pub? I guess this is just a debate I never expected to see.

While child free places are perfectly fine, dogs in an indoor eating establishment seems like a bad idea. They're a tripping hazard, potential health hazard, and there are plenty of people with allergies.