“Your Property, Your Hedge, Your Rules”: Couple Won’t Cut Down Hedge For Next Door Airbnb’s Benefit
Even though property laws are one of the most ancient concepts out there, some folks to this day might struggle to understand physical boundaries. At times this is a simple misunderstanding of property lines, but sometimes the root cause is that age-old dragon, entitlement.
A netizen turned to the internet to ask if they were wrong to add in some privacy features for their own home that “blocked” the view of it from a nearby Airbnb. As it turns out, the netizen’s home was a historic building and the Airbnb owners advertised a view of it as a perk of the property.
Seeing a beautiful old building from your window is a pretty big plus
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So one netizen wondered if they shouldn’t have put up some barriers to prevent their historic home being part of the view from a nearby Airbnb
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Desiring more privacy, the new owners decided to separate their mansion from the cottage with a hedge
Image credits: Philippe Leone (not the actual photo)
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The owner of the cottage soon discovered the hedge and was absolutely livid over it
Image credits: Abbilyn Rurenko (not the actual photo)
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It turned out he wanted to make the cottage an Airbnb home with “a perfect view to the historical building,” so he just demanded the author cut down the hedge
The netizen and their spouse recently bought an old historical house somewhere in the Scottish countryside. Its previous owners, an elderly couple, used the building as a small hotel, but their age no longer allowed them to engage in this business. In turn, the author of the post and their partner planned to simply live in this house, enjoying all the delights of life in the middle of nowhere… what could go wrong?
As it turns out, literally everything. Wanting to preserve the privacy of their new estate, the couple decided to grow a hedge along the very border of their site, separating it from a small ‘gardener’s cottage,’ which remained in the property of the previous owners’ distant relative. A hedge is a thing that grows very quickly, and soon the neighbor discovered it. And that’s where it all started…
It turned out that the same relative was set to rent out his cottage on Airbnb, and one of the key advantages of the location is the “beautiful view of the old historic mansion” that opens from the windows of the cottage. And now, as you can imagine, this unique feature has fizzled out! And our hapless host started to act.
The couple were inundated with what they themselves describe as “official-looking letters” in which both the owner of the cottage and the former owners of the mansion demand the immediate removal of the hedge, because by doing so they deprive the neighbor of “their reasonable enjoyment of the property”, limiting “views of a historical landmark.” The fact that “the historical landmark” itself is private property now didn’t seem to bother anyone.
Image credits: Rob Wingate (not the actual photo)
By the way, this is the second post from the same author, dedicated to this particular situation. In the first, the original poster questioned how legitimate such a demand from their neighbor was, given that the fence grows strictly on the land that belongs to them and their spouse. Having received a lot of answers that the neighbor here has absolutely no right to demand anything (moreover, such letters can be interpreted as harassment), the OP decided to make sure of the moral aspect of the problem.
Well, everything falls into place if you remember that back in 2021, Airbnb introduced a new category of Historical Homes in the UK and a number of Western European countries. “The introduction of the Historical Homes Category is a strong driver of travel to heritage homes and it’s a powerful way to encourage people to travel to places they wouldn’t normally visit. We’re delighted to collaborate with Airbnb and welcome this growing appreciation for heritage buildings we’re witnessing across the continent,” Airbnb’s official website quotes Alfonso Pallavicini, the president of the European Holiday Home Association (EHHA).
Moreover, according to Airbnb data, as early as 2021, typical host earnings for hosts listing Historical Homes in the UK were £10K (~$12.6K), compared to nearly £6K ($7.5K) for the regular hosts. An increase of almost twice literally out of the blue is a good bonus for the owner, isn’t it? And, most likely, that very “gardener’s cottage” also refers to Historical Homes – but if it’s separated from the main building by a hedge, then you can lose the premium category…
Damn it, now I feel just like the characters in the Scooby-Doo cartoon, exposing another mystical story and discovering that there was a common scam underneath. And actually some people write about the same in the comments to the original post. “The owners have solely based their business model on someone else’s property being constantly available to them, without any consultation with the actual owners of the property. That was always going to fail as you can’t control what happens outside of your property,” one commenter reasonably pointed out.
In any case, people in the comments almost unanimously sided with the new owners of the historic home. “Nip this in the bud, get a lawyer and have them send a official letter to them to not harass you,” was one of the nearly perfect pieces of advice given by the commenters. And what do you, our dear readers, think about the behavior of all participants of this case? Please let us know your own opinion in the comments below.
Commenters unanimously supported the new owners of the mansion, claiming that building up your business model on someone else’s property almost always fails
Total agree. I've never used them but the stories of rules that the owners put on it is ridiculous. Would never rent a baby ever.
Load More Replies...Put up cameras and let them know you did it so something 'doesn't just happen' in the middle of the night.'
Continue growing the bushes and also ask for a consideration for the upkeep of your property the cheeky git his family who previously was there knew all about what he was going to do I bet put a fence on top as well
I doubt this "perk" to renting this Airbnb was going to end at just looking. By marketing it as an "enjoyable view" that could be interpreted as a lovely stroll through the property itself, not just admiring from a distance.
I agree. But I dont think it will stop at a stroll thru the yard. I guarantee people would walk in their house. Plus they'll take pics.
Load More Replies...The unbridled entitlement on the part of the owners of the cottage is insane. I’d be lawering the F up, and telling them to go pound sand!
Contact a lawyer. They are trying to intimidate you with official looking letters that arent. If you dont put stop to it now. People who rent the cottage will be entering your yard and wouldnt be surprised if they didnt just walk into your house. The excuse will be that its a historical house and they have the right to see it. Get a lawyer fast. This is going to be bad if you dont.
They don' t like the hedge and persist in harassing you about it? Then put up a 15 foot tall wooden privacy fence between the hedge and the property line with the posts facing them. Hang "No trespassing" and "Private property" signs between every post. As long as the fence is on your side of the property line they have no legal recourse. If they start getting stupid, put cameras up on the tops of the fence posts, carefully aimed to point down the fence line to monitor for vandalism.
Nope, not today Satan! Put in cameras to ensure these a******s don't damage your hedge. Send REAL cease and desist letters from an attorney to stop their entitled harassment. What an overwhelming sense of entitlement these cretins have!
NTA. Presumably t was not disclosed during the sale, nor made any requirement to "maintain the view". And besides, I would have needed one heck of a discount if I'd known I wouldn't be able to have any privacy whatsoever from a rental property, especially when buying home and piece of land like that. I shouldn't be required to let your renters in your speculative property rental stare at me, my home, and my family. I.e., if you need MY home to be a selling point for YOUR AirBnB rental... that is a YOU problem, not a ME problem.
Send em a cease n desist legal letter , what they have done is falsely advertised,their properly ,to inc yours with no permission , contact Airbnb direct to ,and report them for doing this ,as u just know people as stay there will demand access to your home !! Airbnbs are despicable things awful , keep to holiday cottages , like they always been , and hotels ,way to many of them shuttting doors n having those vile places don’t help one bit !! Got a few in our little village here in uk, right pain they are , , swap that hedge out for one with leyland cypresses 😂give it a yr then they will really have something to moan about they are like bloody triffids like over ten ft in under 5 yrs 😂😂,the cheek of em using your properly as a selling tool,that’s illegal !, keep us updated
It may be different in the OP's state, but where I live reasonable enjoyment/quiet enjoyment is a clause included in leases to prevent landlords from harassing tenants. It has nothing to do with neighboring property owners, and it certainly has nothing to do with how much a property owner can earn on Airbnb.
If. By some deranged chance of circumstances they try to k**l your hedges, put up a tall wooden fence.
wow, will they pay you royalties for the alleged view that draws in customers to their property? Unless they do, and pay handsomely, just ignore and enjoy your lovely home. They are delusional.
If those people were actually smart and less a*****e-ish, they could've just talked to OP and maybe asked if they could trim the hedge lower in the spot adjacent to the cottage so the view would be maintained. OP could still have said no but they also might have agreed. But cottage owners had to be twats about it.
OP has the money to buy an ex-hotel with a big garden, but needs Reddit to ask for legal advice? Come on!
Oh shut up troll !! Maybe they want moral advice to get over yourself already
Load More Replies...Total agree. I've never used them but the stories of rules that the owners put on it is ridiculous. Would never rent a baby ever.
Load More Replies...Put up cameras and let them know you did it so something 'doesn't just happen' in the middle of the night.'
Continue growing the bushes and also ask for a consideration for the upkeep of your property the cheeky git his family who previously was there knew all about what he was going to do I bet put a fence on top as well
I doubt this "perk" to renting this Airbnb was going to end at just looking. By marketing it as an "enjoyable view" that could be interpreted as a lovely stroll through the property itself, not just admiring from a distance.
I agree. But I dont think it will stop at a stroll thru the yard. I guarantee people would walk in their house. Plus they'll take pics.
Load More Replies...The unbridled entitlement on the part of the owners of the cottage is insane. I’d be lawering the F up, and telling them to go pound sand!
Contact a lawyer. They are trying to intimidate you with official looking letters that arent. If you dont put stop to it now. People who rent the cottage will be entering your yard and wouldnt be surprised if they didnt just walk into your house. The excuse will be that its a historical house and they have the right to see it. Get a lawyer fast. This is going to be bad if you dont.
They don' t like the hedge and persist in harassing you about it? Then put up a 15 foot tall wooden privacy fence between the hedge and the property line with the posts facing them. Hang "No trespassing" and "Private property" signs between every post. As long as the fence is on your side of the property line they have no legal recourse. If they start getting stupid, put cameras up on the tops of the fence posts, carefully aimed to point down the fence line to monitor for vandalism.
Nope, not today Satan! Put in cameras to ensure these a******s don't damage your hedge. Send REAL cease and desist letters from an attorney to stop their entitled harassment. What an overwhelming sense of entitlement these cretins have!
NTA. Presumably t was not disclosed during the sale, nor made any requirement to "maintain the view". And besides, I would have needed one heck of a discount if I'd known I wouldn't be able to have any privacy whatsoever from a rental property, especially when buying home and piece of land like that. I shouldn't be required to let your renters in your speculative property rental stare at me, my home, and my family. I.e., if you need MY home to be a selling point for YOUR AirBnB rental... that is a YOU problem, not a ME problem.
Send em a cease n desist legal letter , what they have done is falsely advertised,their properly ,to inc yours with no permission , contact Airbnb direct to ,and report them for doing this ,as u just know people as stay there will demand access to your home !! Airbnbs are despicable things awful , keep to holiday cottages , like they always been , and hotels ,way to many of them shuttting doors n having those vile places don’t help one bit !! Got a few in our little village here in uk, right pain they are , , swap that hedge out for one with leyland cypresses 😂give it a yr then they will really have something to moan about they are like bloody triffids like over ten ft in under 5 yrs 😂😂,the cheek of em using your properly as a selling tool,that’s illegal !, keep us updated
It may be different in the OP's state, but where I live reasonable enjoyment/quiet enjoyment is a clause included in leases to prevent landlords from harassing tenants. It has nothing to do with neighboring property owners, and it certainly has nothing to do with how much a property owner can earn on Airbnb.
If. By some deranged chance of circumstances they try to k**l your hedges, put up a tall wooden fence.
wow, will they pay you royalties for the alleged view that draws in customers to their property? Unless they do, and pay handsomely, just ignore and enjoy your lovely home. They are delusional.
If those people were actually smart and less a*****e-ish, they could've just talked to OP and maybe asked if they could trim the hedge lower in the spot adjacent to the cottage so the view would be maintained. OP could still have said no but they also might have agreed. But cottage owners had to be twats about it.
OP has the money to buy an ex-hotel with a big garden, but needs Reddit to ask for legal advice? Come on!
Oh shut up troll !! Maybe they want moral advice to get over yourself already
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