“Called Me In The Middle Of The Night Screaming”: Parents Put Camera In Daughters’ Dorm
Interview With AuthorGoing off to college is a huge step! It’s the start of a new era. But it’s also bittersweet. It’s understandable if your family misses you. Unfortunately, some parents have such a hard time letting go of their kids that they start invading their privacy. Out of their desire to protect them from making any mistakes, they begin monitoring their every move.
Redditor u/No_Tangerine2915 asked the r/AmIOverreacting online community for some advice about a very tense situation with her and her sister’s ‘helicopter’ parents. As it turns out, they have a hard time respecting their daughters’ privacy. They even went so far as to put a camera in their dorm room.
Bored Panda reached out to the author of the viral story, u/No_Tangerine2915, who kindly answered our questions about her being monitored at university. Read on for our full interview with her.
Some parents want to protect their children so badly that they have trouble with boundaries and privacy
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A woman who’s studying abroad with her sister asked the internet for advice after her parents demanded a camera be put in their dorm
The author later shared some additional details about her circumstances
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“I think that they won’t be able to fully trust me until I’m completely independent from them”
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Bored Panda asked the author for her thoughts on why her parents monitor her and her sister so closely at university. “I think it started with my older brother,” u/No_Tangerine2915 opened up to us.
“He made some teenage mistakes, and since then, my dad has been extremely scared for any of the younger siblings to make the same mistakes. That’s why he’s been a lot more overbearing with us,” she said.
We were curious about what would need to happen for the student’s parents to fully trust her in the future. “I think that they won’t be able to fully trust me until I’m completely independent from them,” she mused.
“Then they won’t really have a say in what I’m doing, and I won’t have to give them my location or anything because I’d have my own resources. Also, I’ve been a good kid, so, in my opinion, their mistrust does not have any good reason to be there in the first place,” the author said.
Bored Panda wondered whether the dorm has any policy related to people setting up cameras. According to her, her dorm is in a university residence. “It’s separate from the school, but I think that as long as the camera is not in a public space, it doesn’t matter to them.”
Meanwhile, u/No_Tangerine2915 noted that not everyone online understands just how complex the situation she’s in really is.
“I think that when people haven’t lived situations like that, it’s a bit hard for them to understand that it’s not as simple as just saying ‘no’ or unplugging the camera,” the student told us.
“There are consequences that I cannot face by myself, especially material ones, and I feel a bit powerless regarding the situation.”
Helicopter parents might want what’s best for their kids, but they end up hamstringing their independence and confidence
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According to ‘Parents,’ helicopter parenting involves shadowing your children and directing their behavior. Part of it also includes the guardians giving their kids little-to-no time alone.
Helicopter parents might also control their kids’ time in school, such as picking their friends and activities, helping them with their homework, and choosing their teachers or coaches.
The University of South Florida warns parents not to be overly involved in their kids’ lives once they become college students.
“Remember that your child is now an adult—they deserve the opportunity to make their own decisions, even if they make mistakes.” There’s a balance to be found between staying involved and giving your children enough space to grow as individuals.
That being said, you also don’t want to pull back completely. The odds are that your kids will be excited but scared of starting this new stage of their lives.
You should let them know that you’ll always have their backs. You’re always there for support and advice, should they need it. You can regularly check in with them, so long as you don’t go overboard.
In the meantime, your kids should be allowed to experience and explore life as college students. A big part of that is making mistakes. And learning from them! They’ll end up growing into more resilient adults with good self-esteem and flexibility.
On the one hand, it’s perfectly natural that parents want to protect their children from the hardships and stresses of life. So, they involve themselves in everything they do, seeking to provide a better life than they had. That’s how they show their love and support. Paradoxically, if taken too far, this can be a mistake.
On the other hand, molly-coddling your kids can backfire. Immensely! Essentially, what you want to aim for is to raise your beloved little munchkins to be confident, independent, kind, and capable adults. However, that won’t happen if you never let them make their own decisions and mistakes.
There has to be room for mutual trust and respect, especially when your children are already grown up and have left home
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The connection between a parent and child is similar to any other relationship: it has to be grounded in trust, mutual respect, and good communication. If any of these things are missing, the relationship becomes very one-sided and grounded in control rather than collaboration.
The author of the viral story explained that both she and her sister are already adults. Furthermore, they’re currently studying abroad. In the desire to monitor the two women, their parents put up a camera in their dorm room to have access to their live locations and know where they go and when they go out.
This level of control is unhealthy. It’s also going to push your kids away from you. If you offer them distrust, suspicion, and patronization, you shouldn’t be surprised if they rebel.
You might soon find them reducing the amount of time they spend with you and the information they tell you. They might even go as far as to cut you out of their lives if they feel you’re being too invasive.
Everybody has a right to privacy. Just because you want some time alone doesn’t mean that you have something to hide. And even if you do, it’s your prerogative as an adult to keep whatever secrets that you want.
Whether you choose to reveal something about your private life falls to you. If you trust someone, naturally, you’ll want to be open and vulnerable with them. If you don’t, well, not everyone has to be privy to the details of your innermost experiences.
What would you do if you were in the student’s shoes, dear Pandas? How would you start enforcing some healthy boundaries with your parents if they’re overly intrusive? Let us know what you think in the comments, at the bottom of this post.
Many readers were concerned and thought that the author wasn’t wrong to be worried. Here’s what they had to say
However, a few people had a different perspective. They understood the parents’ point, too
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Tired of BoredPanda presenting downvoted contrary opinions as if there's two legitimate positions for every argument. These parents are invading the privacy of their adult children and anyone who is within sight and hearing of their front door. That's not normal, not acceptable, and in many cases, not legal.
While I completely agree, few of the comments are helpful. These girls are at the complete whim of the parents, so unplugging it, factory resetting it, etc, aren't going to help. This camera is likely a condition of their entire financial support. No, she's not insane to think this is crazy, but it also seems like she's not in a great position to defy it either. I think the best advice of the bunch is to have someone from the college say it's illegal, but I wouldn't put it past these insane parents to say something like "If I can't make sure you're safe, you won't go there". Poor girls, it's a crazy tough situation.
Load More Replies..."if I am paying I am watching" what the actual F? Do they watch them shower too, if they pay for water and shampoo? What happend to doing nice things because you are nice?
That comment irked me too. You're paying because you're the damned parent and it's your job. Doesn't mean you get to constantly spy on your kid.
Load More Replies...I see where OP is coming from. The parents have manipulated the situation so their children are utterly dependent on them for tuition, living expenses, etc. My parents were the same way. They kept us dependent using a variety of financial and emotional/mental tactics, and now that they're pushing 70, they're having deep regrets because one kid (me) has so much CPTSD I really cannot manage without support, and they're stuck. I mean, I'm working myself to the bone to gain independence and GTFO, but when you get stuck in that enmeshment cycle, it's hard to break, especially if mental illness is involved.
I’m kind of in the same boat, but they didn’t hold things like that over my head. I was definitely sheltered (because I’m a girl and the oldest?) until I went to college. Freshman year though I went home every weekend (they picked me up) because it was hard to be away from them. Enmeshment is the perfect way of putting it (and I continue to have depression and anxiety).
Load More Replies...I hope OP unplugged the camera and turned off the location thing. The parents are coo coo bat s**t crazy. If OP is over the age of 18 then what he/she does is absolutely none of their parents business.
She should take the one comment about the parade of sketchy dudes, but instead make it a parade of sketchy dudes d***s. Once Dad gets enough d**k pics I have to assume he would give up.
Load More Replies...I went through this version of monitoring, pre-camera 80s. Me... Dad, please stop opening my mail before forwarding it to me. Dad... you don't love me! Me... ok. And stop opening my damn mail.
At least it's your dad. I have a neighbor who seems to have the constant urge to open my packages, then bring me the s**t she doesn't want and say they "misdelivered". When I ask about my missing s**t it's always "oh this is all I got sorry!" You do realize I can see what came in the package, right Karla?
Load More Replies...What dad would call an adult woman to scream about an off camera in the middle of the night? This just sounds creepy and the woman really only mentions her dad, like her mom is just going along with the dad. Ugh.
I went to college with students like these girls. I can easily picture their father.
Load More Replies...Id quit taking money in exchange for privacy. It sounds like they're prostitutes.
When you've been raised the way they have without any tools for independence it's just not that simple unfortunately. These kinds of kids just aren't capable of even adopting the mindframe necessary to think to quit taking the money let alone actually following through. It's an entirely alien concept and easy for outsiders to say just walk away. That's not how abused people react to abusers, similar to a battered spouse. People always saying just leave and that's never how it works.
Load More Replies...Tired of BoredPanda presenting downvoted contrary opinions as if there's two legitimate positions for every argument. These parents are invading the privacy of their adult children and anyone who is within sight and hearing of their front door. That's not normal, not acceptable, and in many cases, not legal.
While I completely agree, few of the comments are helpful. These girls are at the complete whim of the parents, so unplugging it, factory resetting it, etc, aren't going to help. This camera is likely a condition of their entire financial support. No, she's not insane to think this is crazy, but it also seems like she's not in a great position to defy it either. I think the best advice of the bunch is to have someone from the college say it's illegal, but I wouldn't put it past these insane parents to say something like "If I can't make sure you're safe, you won't go there". Poor girls, it's a crazy tough situation.
Load More Replies..."if I am paying I am watching" what the actual F? Do they watch them shower too, if they pay for water and shampoo? What happend to doing nice things because you are nice?
That comment irked me too. You're paying because you're the damned parent and it's your job. Doesn't mean you get to constantly spy on your kid.
Load More Replies...I see where OP is coming from. The parents have manipulated the situation so their children are utterly dependent on them for tuition, living expenses, etc. My parents were the same way. They kept us dependent using a variety of financial and emotional/mental tactics, and now that they're pushing 70, they're having deep regrets because one kid (me) has so much CPTSD I really cannot manage without support, and they're stuck. I mean, I'm working myself to the bone to gain independence and GTFO, but when you get stuck in that enmeshment cycle, it's hard to break, especially if mental illness is involved.
I’m kind of in the same boat, but they didn’t hold things like that over my head. I was definitely sheltered (because I’m a girl and the oldest?) until I went to college. Freshman year though I went home every weekend (they picked me up) because it was hard to be away from them. Enmeshment is the perfect way of putting it (and I continue to have depression and anxiety).
Load More Replies...I hope OP unplugged the camera and turned off the location thing. The parents are coo coo bat s**t crazy. If OP is over the age of 18 then what he/she does is absolutely none of their parents business.
She should take the one comment about the parade of sketchy dudes, but instead make it a parade of sketchy dudes d***s. Once Dad gets enough d**k pics I have to assume he would give up.
Load More Replies...I went through this version of monitoring, pre-camera 80s. Me... Dad, please stop opening my mail before forwarding it to me. Dad... you don't love me! Me... ok. And stop opening my damn mail.
At least it's your dad. I have a neighbor who seems to have the constant urge to open my packages, then bring me the s**t she doesn't want and say they "misdelivered". When I ask about my missing s**t it's always "oh this is all I got sorry!" You do realize I can see what came in the package, right Karla?
Load More Replies...What dad would call an adult woman to scream about an off camera in the middle of the night? This just sounds creepy and the woman really only mentions her dad, like her mom is just going along with the dad. Ugh.
I went to college with students like these girls. I can easily picture their father.
Load More Replies...Id quit taking money in exchange for privacy. It sounds like they're prostitutes.
When you've been raised the way they have without any tools for independence it's just not that simple unfortunately. These kinds of kids just aren't capable of even adopting the mindframe necessary to think to quit taking the money let alone actually following through. It's an entirely alien concept and easy for outsiders to say just walk away. That's not how abused people react to abusers, similar to a battered spouse. People always saying just leave and that's never how it works.
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