Dad Livid His Daughter Objects To Babysitting His 5 Y.O. Twins, Even Though She Lives With Him Rent-Free

It’s not a sibling’s responsibility to be a parent to their brothers and sisters. My dad died when I was 10 so my mum had to go out to work full time and my sister who was 12 used to make sure my younger brother and I got breakfast, got to school and she made our evening meals when we got home. It was never expected of her but she did it anyway. She never had kids but she helped raise my child while I worked. She’s a legend and so are you.

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I agree. I had to pay for my own college and so worked full time while living at home. If my parents could have afforded to pay for my college and asked that I babysat and cooked and cleaned, I would have been totally fine with that.

Goid for you. You aren't her and aren't in her position. You having it s****y and not getting the support you needed isn't right and we should definitely do more as a society to support all students regardless of income, family status or even the relationship students have with their parents. What we absolutely shouldn't do is make things unnecessarily difficult, stressful, and push so that only those with the most privileged backgrounds can realistically actually focus on school. Plus she had to deal with all these high school and college stresses during COVID, which in and of itself is s huge negative for mental health and thus the ability to manage the same stresses. (Plus trauma is stored genetically. Any hardship the parents complain about experiencing is actually compounded in their children further making it even more difficult especially without the support and aid they should be getting instead of the judgment for not being able to do it handle as much as their parents)

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Libtard much? I worked 50 hours a week to support my college. .and my son just graduated college and I paid for all his college and living expenses. Guess he lucked out and didn't have any of my stored trauma..you probably think student loan forgiveness should be a thing. What kinda gun do you think the dad held to her head to make her go to college and except his money? This country is turning to s**t with this narrative or free s**t and not not pulling your own weight and being part of victim hood mentality. Poor girl she was asked to watch her brothers. Maybe she should move out and pay for everything herself..get a job.

Ad hominem remarks does not your point make... Relax, for your sanity's sake. It's a discussion....calm down.

Entitled by the fact that she lives as an adult for free. And she gets free college. If she were to pay for both of those she would even have less time to study with an outside job. Entitled that she is missing out on social events. Dad doesn't get any social events?

Lol nope that's your imagination. Your parents should love you for life but they don't have to support you financially or even like you for life. Just like you don't have to support or like them for life. Stop being an advertisement for abortion.

Did you really just call someone an advertisement for abortion because you disagreed with a comment they made about basic human rights of a home, food, water and education? Isn’t this what we want for all children?

Y'all dump all your parenting responsibilities on oldest daughters and then Pikachu face that birth rates plummet. That most of those oldest daughters never want children of their own and some (like myself) would literally rather die from an illegal abortion than create any more children to be abused by the state or their rich buyers or their own responsibility to care for yet again. That everyone better realizes how messed up it is to have kids under the age of about 30 (cause anything under 26 is literally children raising children and the 4 more years helps to give the adults plenty of time and space to establish and learn about themselves well enough to be an actual parent). I'm the oldest of 5 from a big Mexican family. and I've literally never met anyone from a large family that wants more than maybe 1-2 kids. About half the people i know don't even want kids And so much of it comes down to irresponsible, immature, entitled parents who inflicted too much trauma and adultification

Your arguments the best. I don't think occasionally babysitting is a horrible thing to do. But to have to take over total responsibility for the care of your siblings over your education or work so you can get out and be independent is horrible. I do not advocate for dumping your responsibilities on your kids. I think if a couple hours up to 3 hours babysitting and 3 days of that is a way for you to learn child care responsibility for others and being able to achieve your goals with those responsibilities let's you know what you can handle. He the father should be flexible on those hours or days for her schedule. I also think it is a great deterrent then teaching abstinence for birth control. You have had strength foisted upon your shoulders before the time should have come. You have lessons learned these people who don't do anything but demand payment for everything they want. How doesnt that make you sick?

In the us women get children 90% of the time. I do not know what country you are from but men do not get custody. A woman can be a drug addled meth head and still get custody. On top of that she can lie and say the guy abused her and the courts will take away visitation.

That's because the men don't fight for it. They don't give a fvck. When a man actually fights for it, though? He wins.

That is false generally. My brother was tricked by a 24 year old into knocking her up while homeless and 17 and he had to pay her child support and got no visitation rights. Yet she was a predator. Sorry 17 may be consent age but when a woman 24 goes and stalks you at your work and destroys your life. No women are purposely as bad as men because they are mad that their mothers didn't get to be dickheads too. Now you do.

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Not sure if maybe that was school specific to you but my patner is in full time college right now and that's not the case unless they're labs or it's a 1/2 days a week class instead of 3/4. This is Jan 19th...she has up to 4 weeks to drop classes and get all or at least a portion of tuition back if she's not able to handle her workload. And if that's the case, she should go down to part time school and get a part time job if she doesn't want to babysit AS her job. She is a 20 year old adult who has made a choice to go to school full time and her parent has generously allowed her to do that while paying for it in exchange for babysitting for few hours a week and some light housework. That's an amazing deal. If she can't do that, if she was my kid, I would say, 'no problem honey. I love you, you always have a free meal here I wish you luck but you need to plan on moving out by x date and I'll help you as much as I can to do that.' Because I'd love my kids enough to prepare them for life.

Btw..the kids who are claimed to be "more mature for their age"..nope. they happen to be more difficult to handle and HE made a choice to have more kids. It's 16 weeks, she can babysit during breaks. You don't get a refund if you are dropped by the professor. By this was the policy as January 2022.. school is HER job, unless he wants to forfeit the money he paid

As an older sibling forced to raise my younget siblings, she actually shouldn't babysit at all.

WOW. Just wow. My son is SIXTEEN and dual-enrolled in both HS and Community College. He spends a good amount of time AT HOME doing pre-labs for Chemistry and also working on pre-Calculus. I went to college at 23 after I was married and was thus condidered independent by Federal Financial Aid. I took out OVER FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS in loans for an IN-STATE UNIVERSITY. Federal Financial aid doesn't consider you independent unless you are either MARRIED OR OVER TWENTY-FIVE and your PARENTS' incomes (tax returns) are what YOUR financial aid is based on. You're off base here. Seriously off base. In addition, sweetheart, he demands she babysit THREE NIGHTS A FREAKING WEEK. HE had those 5 year old twins. They are HIS responsibility, not his daughter's. The fact that they live with him full-time tells me their mom IS DEAD. I would be willing to bet his deceased wife took care of their eldest (who is now 20) while he was in college and that he has expected his daughter to take over mom duties.

He does say ex about the daughter's mom so they probably split up and the twins haveca different mom. She is too old to be considered in custody disputes so it would be her choice which parent to live with and he is likely the one near the college (and since room and board on campus is expensive he could have made living with him a condition of his paying her tutition). Im betting the twins are the girlfriend's kids and she lives there too and is also expecting her "step" daughter to do the work for her

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I'm pretty proud of the fact I've never in my life called another woman 'sweetheart' because I don't agree with them in a show of utter sexism, while also calling out someone else for sexism. But alas, in the end, he is under no obligation to pay anything for her. If their agreement was x amount of work for x amount of money/help, and she doesn't want to do that, she is free to make arrangements to leave. College is a privilege, not a right. And she can feel free to go pay for herself and do all of those things-the study hours, school required hours, etc- on her own dime. He will somehow survive I'm sure. Think whatever you want about him. Those of us who didn't have things handed to us or were not treated like children know that he's being very generous, and she's not being required -by him- to do a lot What her school requires of her is between her and her course choices. She should find a way to make that work with what is required of her at home in order to live rent free.

Dude..my pols class required 10 hrs per week and I got a warning when I did 9.5 hrs

Cat- there are several ways to be classified as an independent student (doesn't report parental income): 24 years old or older, married, have legal dependants, in the armed forces, are a veteran, homeless or may become homeless, emancipated, orphan, ward of the court, someone other than your parents have legal guardianship or had it immediately before you were an adult, a masters or PhD student, or were in foster care any time from age 13. None of this seems to apply to the daughter but you're very adamant that someone must be 25 or married to be independent. Regardless of her status, those are his kids so he needs to stop demanding his daughter take care of them at least 3x weekly. Doing part of the cooking and cleaning is reasonable, although it sounds like she's doing most, if not all, of it. Paying her to babysit her siblings so he can go f**k his girlfriend is a very reasonable request on the daughter's part.

I live in the US, once the child turns 18.. parents income no longer applies. Literally read these documents every day because you wantta guess who I work for and got a job approving grants.

Unless something has changed recently, parents'income absolutely is required for FAFSA and other federal programs. And state ones in NY, at least.

Nothing has changed, parent income is required for all students classed as dependent. You COULD be 18 and be considered an independent student but that's not the norm.

You are hillarious. No for the FAFSA and all colleges it is the parents' income now up to age 26 for all financial aid. And even most private grants want the FAFSA done. We had a HORRIBLE time getting my ex's done for med school because her parents refused to talk to each other and neither wanted the other to see what they made. Neither contributed a single dollar to help, but thier income was all that mattered.

100% wrong. Fafsa considers you a dependent until you turn 24. You have no idea what you are talking about and everyone should ignore you.